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Obama meets with Jewish voters in PA

Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:15 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
PHILADELPHIA -- Obama pleaded his case in front of the local Jewish community at a Philadelphia synagogue, saying that he had always had a "kinship" with the Jewish community and any mistrust that might exist of him was because of "scurrilous emails' and speculates based on him having a Muslim middle name.

"But if people don't mind, I'd like to be honest: A lot of the concern has been generated because of scurrilous emails that have been sent, generated based on speculation of the fact that my middle name is Hussein," he said, adding: "A lot of it has been generated as a consequence of the fact that I'm African American and that at times there've been tensions between the African-American leadership an the Jewish community."

Today's meeting was the seventh that Obama has held across the country with members of the Jewish community, seeking to assuage fears that he is anti-Israel, especially after comments by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, became public. In attendance were religious leaders and members of Jewish organizations in the local area.

Obama repeatedly said that he was for a Jewish state, while Reps. Robert Wexler and Steve Rothman, Obama backers who were both in attendance, put it more bluntly, saying that Obama would not allow Palestinians in the right of return.

Obama also affirmed his support for allowing Israel to retain Jerusalem as part of a two-state solution and said that the United Nations' attacks on Israel needed to end. He also said that he would keep all military options on the table should Iran acquire nuclear weapons.

Over and over again -- through the surrogates that spoke on his behalf, as well through his own words -- Obama said that he strongly supports Israel and its positions. The meeting appeared to be his most emphatic public comments to date on the issue.

He re-read part of his race speech from Philadelphia in prepared remarks, where he said that he denounced his former pastor's comments on Israel and re-affirmed his support of Israel as a Jewish state. The issues of Rev. Jeremiah Wright and President Carter's visit with Hamas were raised only twice. Obama denounced Carter's trip, saying that there should be no discussions with a terrorist organization.

Asked by a member in the audience, to clarify how much he had known about Wright's comments, Obama appeared to make a surprising admission, saying he had learned about  Wright's controversial comments  since running for president and he had addressed them with him but had chosen not to publicly denounce his pastor. "I'll be honest with you. I did not become aware of them until I started running for president. And at that point, yes, I had conversations with him, which I shared with him my deep concerns."

"The sermons that were the source of controversy were deeply disturbing to me, and I did address them, I did tell him, that I found them disturbing and wrong. As I mentioned, he was also, at that point, several months from retirement. So you make a decision about how are you going to handle that? Do you publicly denounce his comments? Do you privately express concerns with him, but recognize that you're part of the broader church community that is going to be transitioning? I chose the latter."

He also reiterated comments he had made earlier that any characterizations of Wright as something more than just his pastor were inaccurate. "And I also want to note, this notion that's been put forward that he's my spiritual advisor -- he was my pastor. Which means when I went to church.  There were sermons. Many of them insightful and powerful and speaking about justice and the social gospel," he said.

One student present told Obama that the Jewish community had been satisfied with his speech in Philadelphia on his relationship with Wright, but were worried about how this might affect him in a general election. Would he become another McGovern or Dukakis?

"In the middle of a primary contest against a very formidable candidate, you know every bone gets picked over multiple times. And after, after a time you're going to take some dings and get some nicks and cuts," he said. Obama added, however, that he believed that the country was in a "sober mood" and that in a general election there would be more of a stark contrast on the issues between the candidates to focus on rather than the latest "gaffe."

"Within the primary, what's happened is, is because there's so much overlap between Sen. Clinton and my policy positions that the only thing that the press can write about are gaffes and slips and who said what at any given time because what else is there to write about," he said. "There's only so long that you can debate health-care mandates."

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I'm Jewish and with Obama all the way.  

Everything that has been done or attempted has not brought peace and security to Israel and her neighbors.  I believe Barack Obama will be a unique bridge-builder in the Middle East.  He represents new hope and a new approach not only for Americans but for people all over the world.

You think the crowds he draws in the U.S. are fantastic?  Wait till he travels the world as President of the United States!
Obama denounced Carter's trip, saying that there should be no discussions with a terrorist organization.

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Isn't he the one that said he will meet with Iran?

NEWSFLASH MR. OBAMA

IRAN IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
Sounds like a very sensible conversation.  I am glad he's made the effort, because frankly, each time he addresses the concerns or commentary about his world view (specifically how he sees America) he amazes.
I wonder if Senator Obama would find Jimmy Carter's endorsement helpful?
Yeah Obama is trying to lie out of why he stayed with Rev. Wrights church for 20 years,  and why his Pastor, Wright went to Lybia with Louis Farrakkhan met with Libian Terrorist. And why Obama's friewnd and support Pres. Carter is meeting with  Terrorist leader of Hamas who hates Jews. met with Palistinan Terrorist.
I hope that Senator Obama will recognize the rights, and denounce the crimes of both the Israelis, and the Palestineans. I hope he will stand up for a non-partisan justice in the Middle East.
Becareful Obama?! Remember there are millions of muslims in this country and I happen to be one of them. I have always supported you but please DO NOT piss me off.
Please don't pander, OBama

Arab Jerusalem belongs to the Palestinians
The Israelis have no moral or legal right to it

and ALL sieds ahve engaged in terrorism...
Including the Israelis...

If you want peace, work for JUSTICE

Barack Obama, the country is watching and the country is taking note.

Of how you have handled the Rev. Wright situation, how you handled the "bitter" situation.

And what the country is appreciating is the fact that you did not throw Rev. Wright under the bus; that despite some despicable comments made by Bill Clinton, you did not throw him under the bus.

That despite how Hillary Clinton responded to your "bitter" comments, you did not throw her under the bus with her many untruths.

Despite what many might say, the country is watching, the country is listening and the country is saying - this is a man to admire.
I'm sure they were impressed seeing as how Obama's supporter, Jimmy Carter, is meeting with Hammas (sp).
Is Mr. Carter delivering a message from Obama?? Could be!!  I wouldn't take a chance on it.
Well done Obama!
Anyone who pays any attention to Obama's words and not the endless, droning spin of soundbytes on television can see he has nothing in common with Dukakis and McGovern.  After 7.5 years of the Commander in Chimp, an Obama presidency would be a desperately welcome change.
Chuck Todd for President!!!
Obama has a "kinship" with the Jewish people - HAHAH
Think Not - How about Florida Voters??????  Go check your "people" in that state that you blocked!
The only problem I have is that it is not fair to support only Jewish people's side. I agree with Obama that he should show concern for the people of Israel, but he should also focus on peace. I am sure that not all Jewish people feel that Palestinians are all bad people. It would be great if there could be peace and harmony between Israelis and Palestinians. I hope Obama wins the nomination, but I also hope he expresses a desire for unity and peace among people of all faiths.
Let me be clear here. I'm a 56 -year old Jewish Democrat  and I support Sen Obama.And so will the majority of the Jewish community in the Fall.
Obama is my man....

BUT....his stance on Palestine has got to be more OPEN

Both nations deserve to co-exist....NONE...MORE..THAN..THE..OTHER
Obama '08
"Obama appeared to make a surprising admission,"
First Read/Mark,  I am curious as to what was surprising?  I'd heard these nearly exact comments from Obama on at least two occasions weeks ago.
Sen. Obama, it has nothing to do with your middle name. It has to do with you surrounding yourself with Palestinian apologists and haters of Israel.

This man has a pathological inability to tell the truth. Here's one Jew who'll never vote for him.
I really feel for Obama.  He has done nothing wrong and I know that he has the best of intentions, but the truth of the matter is that he is not a part of the establishment.  This is the first time that the big wigs could possibly be shut out of executive decisions, and it scares them to death.  There is an entire political machine against Obama, and he, unlike the other candidates, is fighting people and establishments on multiple fronts.  I know that the job of President is honorable, but I wouldn't run for President if you gave me the title while I was sitting in an easy chair.
NEWSFLASH MR. OBAMA

IRAN IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION

No, they may support terrorism, but they are a sovereign nation.  Two very different things.  
So senator obama was ok with israel going in and destroying good portions of lebanon to saisfy their jewish bloodlust?
Message to Molly  the congregation of my synagogue likes Obama too. Right here in sunny Florida.:
justSaying -

For the same reason that Hillary continues to associate with the man that took $800,000 from Colombian lobbyists to promote the FTA that will cost US jobs. You can't control idiots. And I wouldn't classify President Carter as being a friend of Obamas. I wonder why Hillary didn't stop Bill from selling her out? She had to know that the electorate would find out. Maybe she doesn't care about them or maybe she didn't mind the extra money?

Anyway, when you try to come up with fictitious relationships for Obama, remember that Hillary has more devious people in her family and immediate campaign team. Bill and Hillary received $15,000,000 from investments not counting %50,000,000 for speaking(?) engagements.
Isn't he the one that said he will meet with Iran?

NEWSFLASH MR. OBAMA

IRAN IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION


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Iran is a STATE by definition and has a head of state as its leader.  Hamas is not a STATE and is strictly a terrorist organization.  THat is a very large difference.  I think that there should be negotiations  BEFORE we cause the collateral damage of innocent lives being destroyed.  War is not a pretty thing.  14 years in the Army has given me that reality.
Obama has a "kinship" with the Jewish people - HAHAH
Think Not - How about Florida Voters??????  Go check your "people" in that state that you blocked!
Molly (Sent Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:40 PM)

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Thank you, Molly...someone else who denies the inconvenient truth about Harold Ickes.
What? Doesn't anybody want to comment on this very important article?

I have to admit, that in the beginning I too though Obama to be anti-Israel but after I got to know him through the last 6 months, I am satisfied of his Israel position. The Jewish community plays a great role in American society and Obama should be willing to defend it as much as he would defend African Amercian.

The Rev. Wright comments bothered me like everyone else but the truth be told, that is customary throughout the church (both black & white churches). In the black church, they preach fire and brimestone like Rev. Wright...and in the white church they preach fire and brimestone like Pastor Haggie (Catholics are the great whore of Babylon) & Pastor Rob Parsley (homosexuals are devil workshippers), etc. To that end, both churches preach against USA in a judgement fashion, meaning if they don't like a position the U.S. took and if that position is contrary to the Bible, there will be judgement.  But Rev. Wright, Haggie, Parlsey and thousands of other church pastors have no authority to pre-judge anything or anyone.  I was part of the Christian church, black & white, for over 30 years and they are all alike, so you can't isolate Rev. Wrights comments without labeling the entire church community. But lets be clear, I don't agree with any of Rev. Wrights comments, but like I said, I heard that type of sermons all my life...nothing new.

No president can become all things to all people...its totally impossible. None of the white Presidents sympathized with all ethnic groups because they just can't. You can try but that would be unrealistic expectations. Obama should be very very clear with Israel but even if some Israeli topics are not satisfied it doesn't mean the Obama is anit-Israel.
Hi jJustSaying

You are right, Rev Wright did meet with the Libyans with Revs Jackson and Farahkahan..... There was a Navy Fighter Pilot who was downed over Lebannon and held by the Libyians. The Regan Administration was unsuccessful in negotiating his return.  These three men went there and he was returned.  Rev Wright was commended by Pres Johnson while he was a Navy Cardio-pulmonary Technician who took care of Johnson, commended by Pres Regan for efforts to release Pilot Bobby Goodman, and invited to the White House by Bill Clinton for prayer when he committed adultery in the White House.  I also believe that Rev Dr. Wright and Rev Dr, Martin Luther King, Jr. preached on a paralell track. White america seems shocked that black churches speak out about the darker side of our nation.  In order for us to be Chrisitians we would have to look at these things and forgive them. The bible speaks against slavery (the israleites by Pharoh). African Amreicans were inslaved by Christians who read the same bible, but did not follow it.  Think about it.  

By the way, Dr. King's last sermon was "Will America Go to Hell?"
MOLLY YOU NEED TO GROW UP. bUT THEN AGAIN YOU MIGHT BE.JUST ANOTHER LOW LIFE GOP!!!!!
Obama denounced Carter's trip, saying that there should be no discussions with a terrorist organization.

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Isn't he the one that said he will meet with Iran?

NEWSFLASH MR. OBAMA

IRAN IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION



Patty, I have been reading your rants and most have absolutely no merit.  Last I checked, Iran was a country and not an organization.  This last part may or may not be directed toward you but I for one have a hard time believing that all the self proclaimed Democrats will cross party lines if Obama is nominated.  He is more of a Dem than Hillary and he is willing to LISTEN to the other side and bend to appease a majority of people.  He will get a lot accomplished.  Look at the vast differences in the groups and organizations that are backing him.  A vote for McSame is another vote for Bush.  I dont think the WORLD could handle that for 4 more years..
This is the 5th or 6th version of his Rev Wright story.  Go back and check,
The man has changed his version on almost everything that comes out of his mouth.
I would love the debate really get into the issue of Ayers and his relationship, as that of  all his radical, terrorist friends he associates himself with.
He's just a small time politician from the Chicago Machine, and the reason he's still here now is
because he's black (yes I said that).
I see that people are focusing on Obama's call to the Jewish community and saying "don't piss off the muslims". I haven't read where Obama is against the Palestinian people, but he denounces Hamas the terriost organization. I don't think there are many people who understand the territory linkage between Israel and Palestinian...its traced all the way back to the Bible and the truth be told Israel and Palestinians are the only ones who can rightly divide the truth.  Politics won't do it...this is strictly Old Testament bible stuff.
patty,sd,ca (Sent Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:27 PM)
"Isn't he the one that said he will meet with Iran?

NEWSFLASH MR. OBAMA

IRAN IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION"



Newsflash Patty; Iran is a country, not an orgainzation.  Everytime you post you simply make yourself look more and more foolish.
Yah, Obama, you just think that "There's only so long that you can debate health-care mandates." I'm sure Ms. Hillary will have a thing or two to say about health care and the enormous differences between your appoaches this evening. She can be a mike hog, as I think shown by the stats from the last two debates. God Help Us having to listen to this again!


Obama denounced Carter's trip, saying that there should be no discussions with a terrorist organization.

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Isn't he the one that said he will meet with Iran?

NEWSFLASH MR. OBAMA

IRAN IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION

patty,sd,ca (Sent Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:27 PM)

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patty,sd,ca: I always thought that Iran was a country bordering Iraq...

Obama 08

I'm Jewish also and stand with Obama...

GO OBAMA 08!!!!!
to ralph mexico, ny - president carter has not endorsed obama, at least not yet.  carter's family like obama better than hillary.  dig for the facts first before you comment.
Iran may sponsor terrorist activty.  But it is actually a country, Patty.  Be real.
Patty...come on.  Iran is a terrorist organization?  Iran is a country that has been around a whole lot longer than the US only it was known as Persia.  Terrorist organization...this is why I am seriously considering leaving the Republican Party!!!
Sen Obama is what the country needs someone who is honest and tells the straight truth wether it hurts or not.  If we know the truth at least we know what direction to go in but if we are lied to and decceived then we are caught in a situation that brings the country down because we do not know what to think or do.
"Within the primary, what's happened is, is because there's so much overlap between Sen. Clinton and my policy positions that the only thing that the press can write about are gaffes and slips and who said what at any given time .... "There's only so long that you can debate health-care mandates."
I hope people remeber this.  There is so much hostility between the Obama and Clinton backers on this board.  However please remeber that the only real substantive policy difference between them is health care mandates.  Thats all.  I'll vote for which ever one gets the nomination.  
If anyone can bring together the Israelis, and the Palestineans, it is a man like Obama.  Able to see the big picture, able to overlook the small cuts and bruises, able to make decisions that equate to the the best for all sides involved. win-win

Sounds like Obama would be a good man for President.
"IRAN IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
patty,sd,ca (Sent Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:27 PM)"

Uhh...no, it's a terrorist COUNTRY.
Obama is our only hope to bring people together.I think Obama could bring world leaders together again and we would have some respect, once again.
When are you going to wake up to the fact, it wasn't Obama that blocked Florida ? Florida, was blocked by the Republicans, not Obama.
"Obama repeatedly said that he was for a Jewish state"?!?  Is this 2008 or 1948?  News alert to Senator Obama: there is already a Jewish state!  Nice to know that you approve of its existence.
Why do people continue to insist that Obama is part of some sort of Muslim terrorist conspiracy?  That's completely insane, but it seems like so many people hold that view very seriously.
Obama denounced Carter's trip, saying that there should be no discussions with a terrorist organization
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You're lying again Barack. You said you'd go talk to ALL our enemies.
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Asked by a member in the audience, to clarify how much he had known about Wright's comments, Obama appeared to make a surprising admission, saying he had learned about  Wright's controversial comments  since running for president and he had addressed them with him but had chosen not to publicly denounce his pastor. "I'll be honest with you. I did not become aware of them until I started running for president. And at that point, yes, I had conversations with him, which I shared with him my deep concerns."
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You lied to us then, too, Barack.
"The sermons that were the source of controversy were deeply disturbing to me, and I did address them, I did tell him, that I found them disturbing and wrong. As I mentioned, he was also, at that point, several months from retirement. So you make a decision about how are you going to handle that? Do you publicly denounce his comments? Do you privately express concerns with him, but recognize that you're part of the broader church community that is going to be transitioning? I chose the latter."
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Wright didn't just start believing this stuff AFTER you started running for President. In fact, the 9.11 remark was several years before that. Do we have stupid written on our faces? Sure was a long retirement--20 yrs you sat in that church and listened to, absorbed and embraced that hate-filled speech.
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"And I also want to note, this notion that's been put forward that he's my spiritual advisor -- he was my pastor."
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Another lie, Obama. You said it yourself!
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We deserve better than this. How can we believe anything you say now. You go out and plead for votes and money. You've promised everything under the sun and moon to get elected. Then, in a closed door meeting with a bunch of millionaires in a SF mansion, you insult and denigrate mid-western Americans that you've pandered to all these months. You're a two-faced liar, fake and fraud.
Obama has admitted to hearing controversial comments by Wright in the pew, but none as condtroversial as the specific ones played on TV.  I go to church every Sunday to worship God, not my pastor.  I've had a few pastorsI didn't particularly care for, but I'm not a church hopper and am committed to my church family.  Our pastors do move on regularly.  Rev. Wright did lead him to Christ and that is good.
Obama has a "kinship" with the Jewish people - HAHAH
Think Not - How about Florida Voters??????  Go check your "people" in that state that you blocked!
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Molly, you're right. But how about all those gun-toting, religious fanatic midwesterners? What about those garlic nose Italians that his pastor insulted in OBAMA'S church newsletter? What about the Hispanics who he insulted when he fired the delegate who called some black boys in a tree "monkeys." What about all those "typical white people"? And, don't forget about the people of Michigan!  And, don't forget women who he insulted when he called HRC "Annie Oakley" because she can shoot a gun.  Lots of women shoot. He's covered justa bout everybody but the blacks; it will take more than them to win the election!


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