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'Stating the obvious'?

Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:46 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Carrie Dann
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The two new North Carolina Obama superdelegate backers -- Reps. David Price (CD-4) and Mel Watt (CD-12) -- predicted on a conference call with reporters today, that Obama's comments regarding bitterness in rural America would not hurt his momentum in North Carolina, where most polls show him leading by double digits.

Price said the Illinois senator was "simply stating the obvious," noting that economic distress has fostered anxiety and "a certain level of anger" throughout the country. The focus of the race should be not on "diversionary tactics," he said, but on solutions to the root problems of rural economic woes. (The GOP appeared to be the main target of that remark, though, not Sen. Clinton; Price complimented both Democratic candidates for their "high marks" on presenting viable proposals.)
 
But Rep. Mel Watt was a bit less complimentary of his candidate's opponent, saying that he's heard considerable backlash against Clinton for her aggressive criticism of Obama's comments.

"What I'm hearing is a lot of disappointment at the negativity, and the jumping on this and taking the words out and trying to parse them, that the Clinton campaign has done,” Watt said. “And that could have some adverse impact on the Clinton campaign in North Carolina."
 
Watt, a former chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus who managed African-American Harvey Gantt's failed Senate campaigns against Jesse Helms in 1990 and 1996, was also asked to comment on his one-time sentiment that the country was not ready to elect a black president. The Gantt-Helms contests were marked by a pronounced focus on racial politics. Now, Watt says, he thinks America has made "substantial progress" since then, even asserting that racial prejudice will be a "non-issue" in this election.
 
"I'm surprised, and pleasantly surprised, that Barack's campaign has continued to build momentum," he said. "This is a new day in America."

Price, of the Chapel Hill area, and Watt, of Charlotte, both represent districts with strong support for Obama due to their high percentages of young voters and African-Americans.

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Too bad he won't win NC in the general because the republicans outnumber the dems., and the only people voting for Obama in the primary are you know what...
Yep....that's what I thought, the kitchen sink is coming back to boomerange on her.  She of all people should know that when you play in the mud, you almost always get some on yourself.  

This only shows her desperation to win. She cannot point to anything else or make him unelectable by any other means, that is pretty sad. They have been in this race for over a year, does this mean that no one ever considered him to be an actual candidate???  That Boo Boo is on Sen Clinton.  Shame, Shame, shame shame...
NBC (the National Barack Channel) must love this....
Thank you David Price. Let cooler heads prevail, enough of the Clinton's inflammatory BS. People have had with that kind of campaign, it won't work, NOT THIS TIME!
Go Barack
Obama '08
Yes We Can

Cutting through the Bill bull...

Bill introduced himself Monday evening in Decatur, IN as the "delegated small town guy" to a less than overwhelmed audience.  

I was there, but don't trust me to tell you.

This is what the small town (10,000 pop.) newspaper said yesterday:  From the Decatur Daily Democrat front page...

"As political rallies go, the one that was hastily-arranged for Monday evening in Decatur was a fairly subdued affair. Organizers had intended to limit the crowd to 1,000 persons on a first-come, first-served basis. But in the final analysis, no one was turned away, and Clinton wound up speaking to a less-than-capacity crowd in the middle school gym.
  And those in attendance were on the whole not a wildly enthusiastic lot. Clinton drew several rounds of applause during his speech — specifically when mentioning the need to end to the war in Iraq and for improved education and economic standards — but there a noticeable lack of electricity throughout the evening."

Maybe they were bitter.  or maybe just really tired of the Clintons... who knows?

Most people in America are "bitter" look at the mess Bush has put us in.  The rich people have gotten richer and with McCain we would get more of the same. How many of us can afford that. How many people are out of work, need insurance, can not make the mortgage payment and on and on. If you would ask people if they are "bitter" I am sure they would say yes.  I know I am.
I'll state the obvious...the only reason why Obama is winning primaries is because blacks are voting for him at a rate of more than 99%!  Hillary is getting a broad spectrum of demographics, which shows she has a more diverse appeal.  That translates to electability...which Obama has none of!
Mr. Watt is right. This is a "new day in America" and isn't it refreshing?   The old guard is fading out.   It's time for hope, change and maybe what MLK said will be true - someone who will be our President will be judged on the content of his character not the color of his skin."   Hillary go home.  As Dylan said "Get out with the old and in with the new cause the times they are a' changin'."   The baby boomers are in charge now  GO OBAMA !!!!
Thank you Mr. Price and Mr. Watt for backing this amazing candidate. I am a 43-year old, white woman - perfectly poised to be an HRC backer - but will have nothing to do with this particular first lady running for President. I truly believe there are many great women out there with the actual experience, poise and grace to become the first woman President for this great country. I just do not believe HRC is the woman I want respresenting my gender in the White House.

For all of you women out there voting for HRC just because she is a WOMAN - and there are a lot of you out there - is she really the woman you want your little girls, or boys for that matter, to look up to?? Her behavior and tactics are exactly what you probably have raised your children NOT to do. HRC is a woman..........yes. But she is setting the womens' movement back a hundred years with her behavior by blatantly playing the gender card and acting like the victim when things don't go her way. Is that what you teach YOUR girls, women of America??? I would hope not.

Please take a moment to truly reflect within yourselves and stop voting based on emotion and gender. If you still find it within yourself to vote for Hillary, at least you will do so with a clearer conscience.

God Bless PA the next few days. Things are going to get ugly. Just remember to stay focused on the issues and keep your heads clear. Pull that lever; push that button or sign that voting sheet with a clear heart and mind. Take your time.

May the best man or woman win. May ALL AMERICANS WIN!!
OK, the rest of the superdelegates need to state their preference. At this point in the primary you pretty much know what you are getting from either Clinton or Obama. Time to get off the fence before McSame runs away with it.

http://laststopmidwest.blogspot.com
It is a new day for America and times are changing.    

Many are realizing that we are as strong as our weakest link.  We can't continue to fight, diseases, inequality, justice and proverty divided.  We must take a stand and know that no matter what the enemy is across the seas, we and our faith (no matter the denomination)will not be shaken.

Divided, we have seen torture rules injected into our government on others and it has not made us safer, divided we have seen our constitutional rights trampled on.  We weren't paying attention, because we were too busy figting about who's cultural and background is more acceptable; divided, we have fell behind in our educational goals; well no more.

We are reclaiming our country for ourselves and for our children, and their children.    
Wow, 3 supers today! McCain and Hillary are out-of-touch, especially McCain, since he said the recession is our imagination!  Counting down the days till the inauguration of President Obama!  Whatever happens in PA, Obama will end up with the lead in pleged delegates, that is the winning number! I'm gonna donate $5 again--it's a great investment in the future! GObama '08 & '12!
THANKS HILLARY FOR BEING ON SELF DESTRUCT. YOU SHOULD GO TO CHRUCH AND PRAY FOR YOU SORRY AZZ. YOUR TIME IS COMMING!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANKS HILLARY FOR BEING ON SELF DESTRUCT. YOU SHOULD GO TO CHRUCH AND PRAY FOR YOU SORRY AZZ. YOUR TIME IS COMMING!!!!!!!!!!!!
From the Huffington Post:

Title: Hillary Clinton On Working Class Whites In 1995: "Screw 'Em"

In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.

"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."

The statement -- which author Benjamin Barber witnessed and wrote about in his book, "The Truth of Power: Intellectual Affairs in the Clinton White House" -- was prompted by another speaker raising the difficulties of reaching "Reagan Democrats."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html


Hey Chuck,

When is MSNBC and FR going to report on Hillary's 1995 view of working class whites?  Apparently she told Bill to "screw 'em" after the Dems lost the congress in 1994.  Apparently she told Bill that we don't need them.  Seems to me that she is looking down and belittling small town USA.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html
Chuck Todd

the last comment pertaining to the "push back" against Hillary Clinton in North Carolina is a lot more than the media is picking up. I have been in Asheville for about ten days registering voters for Obama, and I can tell you the Annie Oakley cracks and the "almost vile" comments from local residents when we make those telephone calls to potential voters is building by the day.
Though I am trying to pass on this information to you in a low key way, it really is serious for the Clintons. Even Bill and Chelsea are getting trashed. There are lawn signs for Obama everywhere, even more than I saw in Virginia in February. And lots of Obama bumper stickers on the back of pickup trucks
I wish we "register voter volunteers" could communicate with our associates in Pennsylvania to see if this is also happening there.
Anyway, Barack Obama is going to totally landslide Hillary Clinton in North Carolina, Though I am not the prediction expert that you are, it could be in the range of 25 points.
Hillary now is the time to stop your line of attack. Winning PA was always in the cards for you.  You have the majority of the Democratic machine at your disposal. You should win by double digits.  If not you have"lost" just like you "won" in Texas.

If you get rolled in NC and lose Indiana then your path is clearly closed.  Stay in the race that is your choice just stop feeding the GOP attack machine with your "Elitist" comments.  
Drip...drip...drip...

Can you hear it, Billary?


Haoles for Obama
Keep on being aggressive, Hilary. Again, people miss the point. It isn't about the "bitter" part of the comment. It's about that Obama negatively stereotyped middle Americans. What's going to happen when he insults our enemies? He's not going to get a free pass then. He won't get to say "I was taken out of context."
Has anyone seen the article on Huffington Post website quoting HRC from 1995 about white working class folks?
Hopefully, NC will give Obama a significant enough margin to result in the conclusion of the nominating process. I don't think Hillary is rational enough any more to realize that she can no longer win, but maybe enough super delegates will declare for Obama after the NC primary to force the issue.

When you think about it, the Clintons were the reason Bush was elected. Bill's performance while in the WH caused such a backlash, that it turned the people against the Democrats. In spite of Bill's luck that he was President when the economy took a good turn. If I recall, there wasn't anything he did that caused the economy to turn. Gore ran an admirable race and he even won the popular vote.

Hillary is now throwing Gore under the bus. Remember all of you that voted for Gore, you're elitists and she doesn't want anything to do with you. Talk about delusional. There isn't really anybody left that she appeals to.  
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

WOW!!!!!! Read this. If the MSM doesn't run with this then I will loose what little respect I have left for them.
Barack '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read Joseph Wilson this morning, and he was still trying to fan the flames.  If you don't know, he's been highly critical of Obama.  Sen. Clinton and the GOP can continue to use this sort of approach, but while Obama's views and vision are resonating with an America public tired of the divisiveness in Washington, they clearly paint themselve as part of the problem and not the solution - regardless of a solutions slogun.
Well Obama must believe it will have some effect, because he put the flag lapel on yesterday....lets see if he has it on tonight in the debate.  If he does then that just shows one thing...he will do or say anything to get elected!  HAWW take that!
Yes Messers Watt, and Price, it is obvious to anyone whose brain waves are'nt flat-lined on an EEG. Sadly, your speaking to some folks who have lost the ability to excercise their gray matter. Close minded, and hard-headed, they 'cling' to the 'bitter' remark as their new hope, for Hillary's already decapitated campaign. Hillary the headless, is out of ideas.

Gentlemen, thank you for your support of Senator Obama.
WAHOO! Thanks for reporting this and Thank you Reps Watt and Price! This is a new day for AMERICA!
YOU keeping up, Chuck?
Yes we can! I hope North Carolina will be the last we see of the Clintons! Time for change!

Obama 2008 & 2012
I get a kick out of the fact that Clinton is calling Obama patronizing and out of touch while her own commercials show just how out of touch she is:

http://blogs.mcall.com/penn_ave/2008/04/supporter-in-cl.html

I mean come on.

She used a campaign volunteer who just moved to PA a couple of months ago and isn’t even registered to vote in the state, to tell PA voters what they ‘deserve!’

If people are REALLY as upset about the ‘bitter’ comment as she claims them are, couldn’t she have gone and grabbed some random guy up off of the street and used him?  Instead, she uses someone from another state to tell PA residents how to vote?  Wow.  How patronizing is that!?!
I was just on the Huffington Post reading Sam Stein report and it tunrs out that Hillary is quite the elitist. Apparently, in 1995 when the dems loss congress, she said to "screw em" about the southern working class voters. Not surprising considering she championed NAFTA which outsourced the jobs in southern states and small towns across the U.S. She also stated small states that held cacucuses did not matter during the primary. Only big states do. Her recent statement that small states are the backbone of her campaingn is false when her behavior and words state the contrary.
Is it any wonder that all this silly politicing by Clinton has hurt her? Obama says what he thinks is true, not just a bunch of regurgitated platitudes. Apparently he doesn't play by the beltway rule book of what you can and can't say. You can spin the statement he made a million ways, but the heart of his statement, that voters are frustrated, is NOT controversial or even really in dispute. Of course voters are frustrated, the great american middle class is getting shafted by current policies... so yes, we all pick our top concerns and issues, whether its ethics, guns, environment, whatever... and vote off that. What he said was true, we all know it, whether you are on the right or the left. Search in your heart, and ask yourself if you are satisfied and pleased with where this country has been going the last eight years... if you are, you are in the minority. If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention.
Stating the obvious, yes - to answer your question, thoughtful people arrived at this conclusion years ago.
Barack Obama is not black. White people know it. Rural people know he's not elitist. Which is why the old guard and the media look so foolish to the country right now. I wouldn't want to win if I was Clinton at this point. America isn't as nostalgic as she hopes it will remain.
Stating the obvious, that small town people cling to their guns and religion.  I did not know that it was obvious. Nice.  Somehow it is Clinton's fault.  


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