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Obama: Here come the Ayers stories...

Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:11 AM by Mark Murray

Here are the predictable Weather Underground stories. The LA Times: "The evidence linking Obama, who was born in 1961, to the two former militants, now in their 60s, remained thin, despite the appearance of a slickly produced, anonymously issued five-minute video titled ‘Obama's Terrorist Connections’ on YouTube that sought to exploit the alleged tie. Obama and Ayers moved in some of the same political and social circles in the leafy liberal enclave of Hyde Park, where they lived several blocks apart. In the mid-1990s, when Obama was running for the Illinois Senate, Ayers introduced Obama during a political event at his home, according to Obama's aides. Ayers, a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, later contributed $200 to Obama's state campaign.”

“Obama and Ayers met a dozen times as members of the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a local grant-making foundation, according to the group's president. They appeared together to discuss juvenile justice on a 1997 panel sponsored by the University of Chicago, records show. They appeared again in 2002 at an academic panel co-sponsored by the Chicago Public Library."

The Boston Globe also does the Ayers story -- but from the how-it-became-news angle. "The news that Obama held a campaign event at Ayers's home in 1995, and served with Ayers on a Chicago community board, was either damning or innocuous, a worthy disclosure or a sure sign of the decline of political journalism. But the Obama-Ayers story itself is a case study in the ways that news jumps between blogs and traditional media, the lingering power of network news, and the persistence of Internet conspiracy theories. In fact, it was hard yesterday to tell which got more scrutiny: the link between Obama and Ayers, or the link between ABC's George Stephanopoulos and Sean Hannity of Fox News."

The AP does its own fact check of the Weather Underground connections. "Clinton's implication that Ayers made hurtful comments connected with the terrorist attacks is wrong. By coincidence, a story about Ayers and what he called his fictionalized memoirs appeared in The New York Times on the day of the attacks." On Obama's accusations: "Obama correctly sketched out the details of Bill Clinton's acts in the case. However, senior Obama strategist David Axelrod went too far Thursday when he said the two cleared by President Clinton had killed people. They were not convicted of that."

"The Service Employees International Union launched an ad that hits the hot-button issue of record gas prices and highlights Obama's energy proposals and his stand of not accepting campaign cash from federal lobbyists."

Hey, Paul Krugman and David Brooks can now agree on one thing: They both don’t care much for Obama. Krugman’s critical piece today isn’t too surprising. "[L]et’s hope that once Mr. Obama is no longer running against someone named Clinton, he’ll stop denigrating the very good economic record of the only Democratic administration most Americans remember."

Brooks’ criticism is a bit more surprising, given his earlier praise of Obama. But remember that Brooks has always been a BIGGER fan of McCain than Obama. “General election voters are different from primary voters. Among them, Obama is lagging among seniors and men. Instead of winning over white high school-educated voters who are tired of Bush and conventional politics, he does worse than previous nominees. John Judis and Ruy Teixeira have estimated a Democrat has to win 45 percent of such voters to take the White House. I’ve asked several of the most skillful Democratic politicians over the past few weeks, and they all think that’s going to be hard.”

“A few months ago, Obama was riding his talents. Clinton has ground him down, and we are now facing an interesting phenomenon. Republicans have long assumed they would lose because of the economy and the sad state of their party. Now, Democrats are deeply worried their nominee will lose in November. Welcome to 2008. Everybody’s miserable."

Like Clinton did, NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan reports, Obama appeared on the Colbert Report last night, filming a taping with the mock conservative talk show host at East Carolina University in Greenville. Colbert quizzed Obama on last night's debate, saying that he had to "take issue" with Obama for calling the questions "manufactured political distractions."
 
Obama told him, "Well, Stephen I think the American people are tired of these political games and petty distractions.”
 
To which Colbert replied: "Sir, speaking for the news media, speaking for the news media, we are not tired of it. It allows us to ask the same questions over and over again. It's a lot less work." It was the only funny line of the entire exchange, which proceeded to have Obama repeat a part of his stump speech about why "distractions" didn't help Americans get health care, better jobs, etc.

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Here comes the spin. Listen Obama, you're the guy that hangs with these extreme leftist elitists, and you're the guy that has to no answer for it. Obama is not any kind of centrist, compromiser, or unifier. His wacky left wing friends confirm that Obama is the same as them.
How low will Hillary Go ?

Hillary Supporters, if you truly care about her, try to be objective, do you really think that trying to cripple Obama before the general election is the best way to go?

If she does this, I predict that she will LOSE, and if Rudy Giuliani RUNS for senate in NewYork he will beat her.
THEN WHAT !
Mark,
You just don't get it. Paul and David just don't like him. So what. Let's hear them provide a real analysis of the issues instead of lazy declarations. You guys really are in love with yourselves, so full of your celebrity. Why don't you all just do you jobs. Question the lead up to wars, economic policy etc.
If you can't answer questions from a C- journalist like Stephanopoulos, what's going to happen when there is a real problem, and there are questions from a real journalist?
What is too funny is that Obama is too scared to go on Fox, so Fox figured out a way to get one question in through Stephanopoulos, and the question brought Obama to his knees. The man (Obama) is a first class pansy.
Love it how Obama tried to bamboozled the Ayers question.   He said he was 8 when Ayers bombed New York.  Nice try Obama.  You were 30something when you worked for him at the Woods Project. You as an adult made the decision to work for a terrorist.  This is a legitimate issue, the judgment and associations of the possible nominee.
I've almost recovered from Wednesday night's debate, thanks in part to finding out that ABC received about 15,000 negative comments from other viewers, however, I would still like to know how George and Charlie will be punished. From what I have heard they are just bragging about their ratinfgs. I'm tired of pundits and media types being rewarded for subverting American values. Of course, I am boycotting ABC News, but I was doing that before this debacle. I want to see someone fired.
That wasn't the only funny line in the exchange on The Colbert Report. Geesh!

For a FULL review of Clinton, Edwards, Obama and Congressman Murphy on The Colbert Report (along with clips) go to: http://www.thedeadguy.com/
The cautionary tale is simple...

If you're asked to serve on the board of a charitable organization you have a duty to vet every other board member and learn their past because you never know how this might hurt you if you're running for President.

How stupid does that sound?
I am confident Obama can turn it around.  Just as General Election voters are different, so too are General Election campaigns.  Obama has shown an amazing appeal (and perhaps not the general dem. appeal especially when running against a general dem. candidate/machine.  With a united Dem. party behind him, it would be foolish to count him out (yet foolish also to say it will be easy).

The Dems. have to decide, will they unite?

As for Ayers, this will forever be remembered in my mind to typify two things about this campaign.  (1)  The Clintons' collective desparation and (2) the Height of Silly Season.  And as a ps., the end of ABCNews.  A lot of us will never watch it again (not that we were watching it before having long switched to cable).  See ya Charlie and George.

A big thank you to my husband's union (EMS part-time job), SEIU.  We appreciate your support.

End of story (for me anyway).
The pundits, and political pontificaters underestimate Senator Obama. He knows it is the economy, the war, and our lost freedoms that will be the torment of the GOP come November. You guys are well paid, and are not struggling day to day to make ends meet. You are out of touch to think that 51% of the electorate will vote against the color of a man's skin, or the content of his jockey shorts. The people want change. They are so desperate, that they don't care if it comes from a brilliant, sincere, and honest African American 'male'. You people think too much of the racial/sexual divide.

Please save the 'we don't know enough about this guy argument, as well as, look at the people he knows gargabe', (which is just the racist/sexist excuse you hide behind), for it is ludicrous, in the minds of the majority of Americans.

Pulling for Obama '08
Lee in Orlando

Just curious, how old was Bill Clinton when he pardoned those FALN terrorists?
Great DISTRACTION from the real issues. Obama was 8 years old! People! They're trying to manipulate us, herd us around and make sure we submit to our roles of "learned irrelevancy". Well NOT THIS TIME!!!
We have a candidate listening to US and wants to represent US. Don't be DISTRACTED. The corporations own the media, they own 50% of the "military" (Blackwater now has MORE personell in Iraq than there are enlisted men, watch for film "War,Inc".), they own McCain, they own Hillary. They are working together to slime Barack as he is NOT under their control. Don't be fooled.
Who cares about Ayers?  Add him to the list of us who are ticked off with how the government is running.  It's amazing, we say we live in a democracy and the government does not try to fix anything, but add to the frustrations of Americans.  
Some people are more extreme than others, but this has got to stop.  If our government listened or if our government cared we would not be in this situation.  Many agree for the last 2 decades, it has been rough and tumble, so why won't we try another approach?  To me the same people are talking about experience and are the Washington insiders with (so much influence), but we are in the worst shape in history.
If you lived in the White House and couldn't make changes, why should we send you back?  If you have been there for 20 plus years, you should have been able to do something rather than lie about what you did.  There should be drastic changes, because they really know what people need, yeah right!  Come on people!  
JUDGMENT IS KEY.LET ASK THE CLINTONS WHAT SHADY PEOPLE,BUSINESS AND COUNTRIES THEY HAVE ASSOCIATIONS WITH? WHY DO THE CLINTONS NOT WEAR FLAG PINS?
Love it how Obama tried to bamboozled the Ayers question.   He said he was 8 when Ayers bombed New York.  Nice try Obama.  You were 30something when you worked for him at the Woods Project. You as an adult made the decision to work for a terrorist.  This is a legitimate issue, the judgment and associations of the possible nominee.
Lee, orlando, Florida (Sent Friday, April 18, 2008 9:30 AM)

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Please check your facts, Lee.

Obama served on the board of Woods Fund as did Ayers.  He did not "work for" Ayers.

There's a big difference.
Obama still acts like he's 8 years old. The man is a child. Look at how much whining he's done since someone asked him a couple of easy questions during the debate and the man-child had no answers. Obama folded like a cheap lawn chair.
uh he didnt work for him - he participated in CHARITABLE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS along with - Im guessing MANY other people as well. Lee, did you even read what was posted above or were you just taking advantage of an opportunity to talk nonsense? I mean honestly. I am sick and tired of people allowing themselves to be TOLD what to think what to feel who to support. Its sickening and its sad. If the bottom line is you dont want to vote for the black guy I'd rather you just say that. Or maybe you just dont like him. If thats the case just say that. Say that tie he had on was ugly and he will not get my vote. Atleast be honest about the fact that you are basing your decision on ridiculous issues. Stop trying to sound smart and informed and as if you did any legitimate research for yourself.  Hillary CLinton has dissapointed me time and time again. I was so excited to be able to vote for her. She had my support hands down, but as this primary has continued I have had the opportunity to get to know her and her family alot more and frankly they irritate me. I have no respect for blatant liars and for people who cry victim right before they hit you over the head as you try to console them. Its low down and dirty and I'm tired of seeing people disrespect the DNC and the voters with this manufactured garbage.
So Obama worked with Ayers 13 years ago in community projects.  Many people work with others they do not agree with or even like.

But if you're going to use this association with Obama, you have to concede all the faults Hillary's associates have.  Oh, where shall we start?
FYI... The Weather Underground group did kill people... THEIR OWN PEOPLE (accidentally).  they didn't kill innocent civilians or whatever the mainstream media would have you believe.  we are talking about distruction of property here people...
ABC did a very good job with their questioning on issues other then they same tired amswers Hillary and Obama have been spewing.  If you librals can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.  You have a woman who can't tell the truth anymore and a guy who hangs out with terrorists.  Great choices and good role models for our children.  I've had to start tellin my kids "don't you lie like Hillary Clinton".  

I've known about the Ayres story for about a year, getting my trut from Sean Hannitty.  He has brought out all the stories about Obama's people and thei realtionships and you really have to wonder where the guy's head is at.  If people don't like him, they can always vote for Hillary.  All she does is lie and cheat and steal what she can.

Great choices liberals LOL.....
Watching Hannity is like watching Ground Hog Day!! He just spins the same old line over and over again and his "you're a great American" line justifies whatever he says. Unlike Ground Hog Day I doubt he'll ever understand the impact of his negativity.
Ridiculous. Rather than talk about issues that matter some would rather wallow in petty character assassinations of no substance.

The average person is not concerned about why somebody does not wear a flag pin everyday. The average person is concerned about Iraq, Recession, Health care and Illegal immigration.

How about writing a story about that?

My vote is for Obama.

Obama's interactions with Ayers, as trivial as they are, have occurred when Ayers was a professor at the Univ. of Illinois at Chicago, not a Weatherman. A good comparison to Ayers would be Oliver North, who some say should be in jail for Iran-Contra and drug running. His current status as a Fox News host brings him into contact with many politicians, mostly republicans who support and share his views.
Excuse me Obamanites...Obama was an adult, a thirtysomething when he decided to join the Wood foundation and work WITH Ayers.  
Obama can't take the heat.  Also, Obama can't even answer policy questions that well either.  

What about the next 1 hour and 10 minutes of policy questions which he stumbled over.  That was the tell tell sign for me that he is incompetent.

It's amazing how the Obamabots get mad when the MSM ask legitimate questions about his connections to American hating terrorist, American hating preachers and American hating Syrian born crooks. Did the Obamabots think he should get a free pass without any questions. Maybe someone will get the opportunity to ask Obama, boxers or briefs?
Saying that Obama is anti-American, left-leaning, unpatriotic, and now a suspect due to his tenuous connection with Ayers, is like saying that all Catholics are pedophiles, or that all muslims are terrorists or even that all Californians are environmentalists!

Give me a break!.
To Jim of Santa Cruz who compares Ayers to Oliver North.   Ayers made bombs and exploded them at US govt buildings.   There is a big difference.  He also says that he wished he would have done more harm and never regretted doing this.

Obama knew who Ayers was and even discussed policy "from time to time" with Ayers.

Big difference my liberal friend from Santa Cruz.
"FYI... The Weather Underground group did kill people... THEIR OWN PEOPLE (accidentally).  they didn't kill innocent civilians or whatever the mainstream media would have you believe."

christian (Sent Friday, April 18, 2008 9:58 AM)

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This is confirmed by factcheck.org...which says that while they may be terrorists, they're not particularly good ones!
Wen I guess you prefer the wacky right wing Fascist that have run the country into the ground for the last 7 years.
Saying that Obama is anti-American, left-leaning, unpatriotic, and now a suspect due to his tenuous connection with Ayers, is like saying that all Catholics are pedophiles,


Do you work for CNN?
Jim of Santa Cruz-Right on! Progressives are up against the sleaze machine ala Swiftboat and WE THE PEOPLE need to fight back and regain our great country back from the mock of FOX NEWS AND RIGHT WING PUNDITS AND THEIR IGNORANT ENABLERS AND SUPPORTERS.
Wow. A leftist radical shakes Obama's hand, introduces him at a fundraiser, and gave money to his campaign and it's news . . . . This is clearly B.S. Obama was a kid when these folks were trying to blow up buildings.  Let the man win the White House please and stop coming up with this crap!
John from Johnstown, are you claiming Oliver North did not commit illegal acts detrimental to the well being of the citizens of the United States? If it's a bad comparison it's because North is far more sinister than Ayers.
So let's get this all straight. Someone running a charity organization to help the poor invited Ayers to join the board. Three years later Obama was invited to join the board. Since both people served on the board of this charity, someone this is supposed to reflect badly on Obama? That makes no sense. Obama was brought into contact with Ayers via third parties. Now, what about McCain's activities with his friend Charles Keating?
I am truly understimating the American people.  You see I thought most people would and do seem to be offended that ABC news went where they did.  Its not wimpy, its playground, its the dumb kid.  All these TV anusi try to pull these pols down into the gutter for their own selfish reasons.  And Obamas right Hillary is in hewr element in the gutter.  I don't believe McCain will be in the gutter although the goober exploiters will be.  My hope this time around is the country has grown up over past 8 years and is ready to show some brain power instead of nanny nanny poo poo
to the clinton minions, surrogates and believers, my question to you is - how stupid do you think the rest of the american public is by slinging this rev. wright issue to no end, now, this ayers non-issue?  don't you have anything more of substance than these, like the economy and the wars and the morale of the american public?  obama was 8 years old when ayers did his dastardly acts.  guess who pardoned the members of ayers' group?  it was bill clinton!!  guess who pardoned the jewish group from upstate new york who scammed millions?  it was bill clinton!! why?  because hillary needed the group's help when she ran for senatorship in new york state!!!  guess who norman hsu is?  peter paul? guess what whitewater is?  shall i go on?
such a non-story...
jerry/corpus christi texas

Don't worry, liberals, that's old school politics.  Hellloooo, that's a tired argument to say the least.  Tell us about McCain...speechless huh!  

Give me a break!  This is definitely not a Republican year, give up already.
He said he was 8 when Ayers bombed New York.  Nice try Obama.  You were 30something when you worked for him at the Woods Project.

Lee you're an idiot, those things are not mutually exclusive, they can both be true. He WAS 8, and he DID work on a board with him. A non-profit organization I might add, unlike Hillary who was on the board of Wal-mart. At least be factualy in your criticism.
Of course people have concerns about Obama's friends and associates. He is running for president, what do you expect? Every day it's something more with this guy. Why did it take the media so long to figure it out? They should have looked at him more closely last year. They really dropped the ball on this one.

If Obama is whining now wait untill the republicans get through with him. Like her or not Hillary has been through the meat grinder and survived many times. Obama is going to get destroyed.

He is dangerous to the country. People with questionalbe judgement make very bad presidents. Obama would be one of the worst.

If Hillary loses the nomination I am voting for McCain.
THIS IS FOR LEE OF FLORIDA AND MOST OF THE OTHER IDIOTS QUESTIONING AYERS AND OBAMA:

AYERS WAS NEVER CONVECTED OF ANYTHING AND LETS SEE HERE OBAMA IS 46 AND IN THE 60S OBAMA WAS A CHILD NOW LETS GET REAL THERE. HOW STUPID DO YOU PEOPLE THINK THE REST OF US ARE?

IM SURE OBAMA HAD THE RIGHT TO DESIDE WHO WAS ON THE BOARD HE SERVED WITH AYERS? HE DIDNT.

AND AS FAR AS AYERS FUND RAISING HE GAVE OBAMA 200 DOLLARS AND THATS IT WHEN OBAMA RAN FOR THE IL SENATE.

ALL THIS STUFF MEANS NOTHING AND HILLARYS X MEMBER OF THE CLINTON ADMI. WAS HIRED BY BILLARY AND WHEN PRES. CLINTON TRYED TO FIRE HIM HILLARY PROTESTED AND HE STAYED ON IN HIS FIRST ADMIN.

SO ALL YOU IDIOTS PUT ALL THIS CRAP TO REST AND FORGET THIS NONE ISSUE.
It seems the Obama supporters want to trivialize, marginalize and outright dismiss any and all of the damning information about this man's character. Yes, CHARACTER. Of course the Obama supporters would rather focus on the issues of health care, the economy and the war against Islamic fascism. Why? Because those are easy topics: blame all our problems on Bush.

What the Obama supporters don't want are American citizens to evaluate the man's character. And how does one go about evaluating Obama's character? Simple. You examine his behavior, his choices, his personal associations. I already know what the Democratic talking points are and I know the "change" that needs to occur, but I won't vote for someone whose character and integrity is questionable (putting it mildly).
As someone who lives in Canada, I sit back and read these blogs and laugh! You guys wonder why the rest of the world have the negative views of Americans? It can be summed up through all the negative attacks written in the blog on Obama. You guys actually have a chance to redeem yourselves and nominate a man that will actually bring some creditability back to your country and your going to blow it! Good Luck!
I can not imagine that there is a politician alive operating on the national level that does not have an "Ayers-like" figure in their background.  How can it possibly be "news" that a liberal politician in Chicago has crossed paths with a liberal activist in Chicago?

Bing Crosby sang a duet with David Bowie - does that mean that Bing endorses Bowie's lifestyle?
Hillary referred to Bill's Presidency as 'we' thoughout the debate, so they pardoned 2 Weatherman criminals and Hillary said 'screw em' when referring to voters. Somehow the news media thinks the word 'bitter' is more important news. That along with who is or is not wearing a flag pin. Hillary also plagiarized Obama during the debate, she must be xeroxing his speeches.
I can't believe how some Clintonistas are treating this non-issue. Are you just looking for a reason to hate Obama? Because there is NO STORY with Ayers. He served on a charity board with the man for crying out loud. A CHARITY BOARD! And it wasn't like Ayers hired Obama or Obama hired Ayers - they just were on the same board. That's it. Big frickin deal!!!

Get over yourselves.
I honestly don’t feel there is anything else the Clinton Camp can do to persuade PA voters to join in her painful crusade.  Those of you still bashing Obama and hanging on to every little morsel of Obama-bash were not going to vote for him anyway.  I like many average intelligence Americans have the ability to see B.S.  Just as anyone can see the women from the polygamist compound are a few cards short of a full deck.
With that being said; I’m glad Clinton and the fux-moderators
Of abc [all. bad. commentary] put Obama’s feet to the fire.  Although I like 15,000 others shared in his pain; in my opinion it was the silver-titanium alloy spike in the heart of the Clinton Camp.  She [Clinton] and the abc fux-moderators just helped prove Obama is ready, and will be ready on day one.  He’s going to steam roll the McCain Camp.  Hillary’s is pulling all the stops trying to win the nomination leaving no available ammunition for McCain.  Can anyone say, “pigeon shoot” I’m from PA so you know I know what that is.
To Donna from PA: THANKS FOR MAKING MY DAY, GLADE YOUR FROM PA!
I love reading these comments. It further proves that the educated vote for Obama and the uneducated vote for Clinton. For all you Obama-bashers - try getting your facts from other places than the 10 o'clock news. If you want to start open closet doors, then lets play that game. The Clintons closet is full of them. Here, I will start bringing a few out. 1) $17M campaign fraud lawsuit brought about by Peter Paul 2) White Water 3) Rose Law Firm 4) Norman Hsu 5) How about that donor list? That should so some really genuine associations.

Maybe you all should go back to choosing the next American Idol and leave the politics to the educated.



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