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I know you are, but what am I

Posted: Saturday, April 19, 2008 6:53 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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The food fight continues.

The Obama campaign went on the offensive with two new ads, one of which attacks Clinton on her health-care mandate. The other highlighting why, they say, newspapers haven't endorsed Clinton. (We reported on those here.) The Obama camp also held a conference call hitting Clinton for her Bosnia “sniper fire” remarks, and the Clinton campaign returned fire, calling Obama a “hypocrite” on the issue of “negative” attacks.

"When it comes to negative campaign tactics, Senator Obama has been a hypocrite from day one, decrying attack politics from one side of his mouth while he and his campaign wage a character assassination effort from the other," spokesman Phil Singer wrote. "The juxtaposition of Senator Obama's comments in the debate and the remarks made on his campaign conference call this afternoon prove the point."

On Obama's ad, Clinton herself, attacked back at Obama. She recycled an argument on this rare area policy difference (and marginal at that) between them: “I just heard that my opponent has put up an ad attacking my health care plan, which is kind of curious, because my plan covers everybody and his leaves out 15 million people -- just leaves them out in the cold," she said. (The statement was also issued in a release by the campaign.) "Now, instead of attacking the problem, he chooses to attack my solution. I don't think that we can just make speeches about this -- we have to have a plan that we can actually implement that will provide quality affordable health care. That's what I've been fighting for for 15 years, and that's what I will fight for as your president.”

Not so fast, says the Obama campaign. It says their health care ad attack is, in fact, a response to a pro-Clinton 527 group's attack ad (and other mailers) on his health-care plan. "The Obama ad is responding to a flurry of negative attacks from the Clinton campaign and their well-financed allies," spokesman Hari Sevugan wrote. "Given that they have been engaging in a self-professed 'kitchen sink' strategy that Senator Clinton describes as 'the fun part,' their charges today are laughable. While they continue to employ the say-and-do-anything tactics of the past, Senator Obama is going to focus on the issues that are affecting the American people."

Meanwhile, the Obama campaign also brought to the forefront Clinton's MoveOn.org comments, revealed by the Huffington Post, framing them as more proof of Clinton's “credibility” problem.

"Hillary Clinton's decision to trash Democratic activists in a closed-door meeting with donors after publicly praising them when she needed their support is just another example of why she has such a serious credibility problem with the American people," Sevugan wrote.

A summary of warring conference calls and candidates' attacks at campaign stops follows below, as reported by NBC/National Journal campaign reporters Aswini Anburajan (following Obama) and Athena Jones (following Clinton).

On the one hand, but on the other…
From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
DOWNINGTON, Pa. -- Obama trained his eye on rival Clinton at subsequent stops on his train tour today, accusing her of practicing "slash-and-burn, say-anything, do-anything, special-interest-driven politics."

A claim that his campaign appeared to undermine when they held a press-conference between train stops with former military veterans who had served in Bosnia to discuss Clinton's claim that she had landed in the middle of sniper fire, reprising an argument that Obama had criticized just two days ago as the type of "gotcha games" politics that eroded the quality of the national political dialogue.

In the call former Gen. Walter Stewart claimed Clinton didn't have the "moral authority" to lay a wreath on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, because she had lied about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia and then joked about it on Jay Leno.

"We can make the assumption here that the honored dead within the Tomb of the Unknown was killed by a sniper,” Stewart said. “Imagine the lack of moral authority she has now to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier on Memorial Day.”

Stewart's claim was just a half an hour after Obama spoke in Paoli, Pa., where he sharply criticized Clinton for making negative attacks. Obama told the crowd that "Democratic Party was divided now" and that "there was a real choice to be made" between him and Clinton.

"She also believes that you know the nature of politics is you say what the people want to hear," Obama said of his rival. "So maybe you say something about trade when you're campaigning with your husband eight, 10, 12 years ago. You say something different now that you're campaigning in Ohio or Pennsylvania. Maybe you say one thing about the war when it looks like the war is popular. Maybe you say something different when the war gets to be unpopular. That's how business is done in Washington. That's become typical."

He claimed that Clinton's acceptance of contributions from lobbyists underscored this argument, because she couldn't claim to change politics while she was in the pocket of the people who were choosing to influence it. Obama said things had gotten "nasty" in Pennsylvania, and that Clinton was using what her advisors called a "kitchen-sink strategy," because she was behind.

"We are going to throw whatever we want at Barack, whether it's true, whether it's false, whether it's exaggerated. It's what the Republicans will do to Barack anyway, so I might as well do it too," he said using the third person to talk about attacks against him, a rhetorical strategy he rarely uses. "So what's happened is that Sen. Clinton has internalized a lot of the strategies, the tactics that have made Washington such a miserable place where all we do is bicker, where all we do is fight."

When reporters questioned the generals on the call on why they could attack Clinton, while their candidate was calling for politics to be elevated, they had little to say, simply repeating the claim that it was Obama who had more "moral authority" and that was an essential quality for leadership. On the stump, as his train rolls through small, economically depressed towns, Obama's criticism of what he calls "Washington politics" is playing well.
 
"I'm not running for office in Washington, so Washington can change me. I am running to change Washington," he said to loud cheers under bright skies at the Paoli train station.

Clinton conference call hits back on Obama ad
From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
Moments after Hillary Clinton criticized Barack Obama's new ad attacking her healthcare plan during a campaign stop in southern Pennsylvania, her campaign held a conference call to do the same. 

Policy Director Neera Tanden said Obama's plan had a mandate for coverage for children, which was really a mandate for parents. She said the best way to reduce healthcare costs was to provide universal coverage and that Clinton's plan would do that. Tanden also said it was ironic that Sen. Obama's healthcare plan wastes money and still leaves 15 million Americans without coverage and said the issue of universal coverage was very important to people of Pennsylvania.

Communications Director Howard Wolfson said Sen. Obama was using the kitchen-sink strategy against Clinton, citing ads and a robocall that says, Clinton will do anything to win.

"Here in the closing days Sen. Obama is doing everything he can to win this contest," Wolfson said, adding that the Illinois senator had set a new spending record this week and was launching "last-minute false attacks" against Clinton to win.

He reiterated the argument that if Obama can't win the Keystone State after outspending them 3-to-1, it will show that he has a significant problem winning in the large swing states that Democrats need to win to win the general.

Wolfson said Obama should be more forthright in answering questions about his associate with 60s radical William Ayers and about his support of a hand-gun ban while running for state office.

When asked whether Clinton's Bosnia sniper fire flap hurt her credibility, an issue one reporter said had been brought up in an Obama campaign conference call, Wolfson noted that Obama's use of negative campaigning showed he was not committed to a new kind of politics.

Notably, there seemed to be two prank callers. One asked, “What is Bill Clinton packing?” and the other asked a difficult-to-understand question, after which Wolfson ended the call, saying the campaign sought to make these conference calls open to journalists across the country and that the Obama campaign had a different philosophy. It was unclear if he was suggesting the callers were from Obama's campaign.

This is at least the third call on which people have come on to ask strange or inappropriate questions or have sought to hijack the call, as an Obama staffer did on the night of the March 4 primary.

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Not only does Obama not wear a flag pin, he never had his picture on a bubble gum card. (Thanks, Charles Schulz)
Statistically, voters cannot end this.  That's the fact, whether we like it or not. That means Superdelegates have to step up with their votes.  So step up and represent!  

Obama '08    YES WE CAN!!!

not much policy differences between them and if the recent positive polls for clinton are right an PA will be less of a close call for clinton 10pts+ and obama can't see her off - the convention fight will get dirt.

But if the delegates get stuck at the convention between obama and clinton don't think a choice of Al Gore for the nomination will solve anything. While he's a popular figure, he's not campaigned for this nomination and spent millions of dollars, debated 21 times and been all over the American media like a rash, outlining his polices, making jokes and slagging off other candidates. He's not fought for the popular democratic vote.

I think it would spark a civil war in the democratic party in the same way that a candidate nominated to run against Mccain who has not got the popular vote would.
Obama can't even control his supporter, so how is he going to take charge of the Presidency! Obama states stick to the issues, yet he does not.  Grade for his Charater = (out of 10)  3  Grade for good judgement = 2  Grade for his associates = 1   Your not doing to good Obama.
I don't understand why the Clinton camp constinuously cries about being outspent.  Why don't they just spend more to catch up?  The fact that she has the backing of the political establishment, that the PA demographic is favorable, and that Obama has had a bad couple of weeks going into the polls lends one to believe that anything less than 15 point victory is effectively a loss.  And if its close, its probably because of the racist vote Rendell spoke about coupled with the Limbaugh vote.  Not exactly the argument you want to be making to the supers as to why you should represent the party.  They all know that she won't help them get (re)elected anyway.    
Too funny. They are starting to sound like second graders. Let this be over already. Geesh.
STOP IT, STOP IT, STOP IT, RIGHT NOW; PLEASE!!!!!!

VOTES WILL BE LOST FOR NEGATIVITY. I AM BROKE!!
NO ONE Care about Hillary Clinton...

The Clintons are expecting Senator Obama to take the High Road while they take the low road... And when his campaign throws it in her face she plays the victim once again....
Hillary " Janus " Clinton despises any activist not supporting her.  As I see it she and many of her supporters feel she is owed the White House.  The White House is not a prize owed to someone. It is the duty of the candidate to make his or her case why they should represnet their party for the benefit of the electorate.  After they are nominated then they need to make that case to all voters.  Hillary by trashing the very activist that get the vote out( Move On was established in 1998 to challenge the impeachment of President Clinton}shows a disdain for the process.  Her view is she is owed the nomination.  With one of the highest negatives in any Presidential election I blieve an once of  humility and common sense would serve her well.
This makes me tired just reading it.  Tuesday night cannot get here quick enough.
She is not lying about MoveOn.org.  It is the same how Obama supporters who are black are critizing those who don't pick Obama.  People get death threats, intimidation.  Obama and his supporters knows it is going on.  Which is sad.  I think moveon.org just wants to be the antithesis of anything.  Heck they picked Kerry and looked how that turned out in 2004.
Howard Wolfson-how is it negative to bring up something that we all saw Clinton say with our own eyes?  I for one still want to know if Clinton lied which is despicable or if she mis-remembered which is scary as hell.  Legitimate area for discussion, Howie.
A lots at stake and Obama ignore her tactics in OH an TX and is answering them factually this time around.

Clean answers are ok

Dems United
The fact Obama doesnt understand how time can change the way things need to be addressed is one reason he isnt ready.Countries change, needs change, amount of people so many things change we need a president that can assess and make the changes as needed. Obama seems to have this quagmire in the past.He cannt pick up things as they are and fix them he wastes time in the past so often I find this disturbing.He says he will not go negative but he has right along.He is th esame politician he professes to change. He has elderly statesmen in his camp Kerry,Kennedy,Dodd, Richardson. What will he need to do for them. Of course there are many more. He gets money from big men Soros, Oil Billionair whose house he was at a fundraiser when the bitter remarks were made in secreat.This man passes himself as someone new  but I dont see it. The new is gone and we have the same ol same ol.Last min. flase attacks are his MO. Nothing new there.Same old kitchen sink he was whining about and look here he is useing it in big time.NAFTA is what he is talking about prob. Yrs ago Hillary helped her husband with it even though she wasnt really into it.Some parts of America have benefitted some not. She will review and change it where it needs be. Obama is such a two faced kid blowing his little train whistle. OMG please get him his own set and send him home.Hijacking the call what next. Pathetic.doing it again shows what we have here.
The biggest strength and biggest weakness in the Obama race is his campaign handlers and hanger-ons. They have either not digested his message or they just don't care about it. They have claimed their king and will do whatever it takes. If he eventually wins the nomination and loses the presidency, it will largely be the disconnect between king and servants.
Sen. Clinton appears to be under the mistaken impression that Sen. Obama is her own personal whipping boy. If Sen. Clinton is going to throw a punch, then Sen. Obama has the right to defend himself and counter punch. Sen. Clinton doesn't appear to understand the difference between defending one's self and negativity. Sen. Obama has very effectively defended himself. Very nice counter punch, Sen. Obama-very nice, indeed.
Obama = not ready for the general election.  This is not a new kind of politics.  He is just another guy.
better to be an honest hypocrite than an hypocritical liar.
I would like to know just what in Washington he would change.How does he see this country after 2 yrs of his presidency? This is very important as his wife feels she needs to put her resources to Black issues first and formost. Wright hates and blames Whites as does Farrakhan and others that support him.It is a legitament question we cannt get answered. I think this country to precious to not know who we are turning it over to.I cann't believe he used the old train trick. He is really arrogant and believes himself to be above human.Good stay on that train Obama ride it right out of town Hahahahah
IN MY OPINION THE REASON WHY THE MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATIC DELEGATES AND SUPER DELEGATES HAVE NOT RALLIED BEHIND SENATOR CLINTON IS BECAUSE THEY THINK….SENATOR OBAMA- IF NOMINATED WILL EASILY BEAT SENATOR MCCAIN, SO THEY ARE HEDGING THEIR BETS. THEY THINK THAT WITH THE ECONOMY AND THE INTERNATIONAL CRISIS IN THE SHAPE THAT IT IS IN, COMBINED WITH HIS AGE---THAT HE WILL BE AN EASY TARGET COME NOV. THUS THEY FEEL WITH SENATOR OBAMA’S APPEAL TO THE YOUNGER VOTER AND THE AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTER, THE DEMOCRATIC S HAVE A TREMENDOUS CHANCE OF TAKING THE WHITE HOUSE IN 08. I BELIEVE, THERE REASONING IS FLAWED…FIRST, LIKE IT OR NOT, THE REPUBLICANS WILL RALLY BEHIND SENATOR MCCAIN, EVEN WITH MIS-GIVING’S. SECOND, THOUGH IT MAY “APPEAR” THAT THE REPUBLICANS DON’T CARE IF THEY LOOSE THE WHITE HOUSE IN 08, DON’T BET THE FARM ON IT….I DON’T DOUBT FOR A MOMENT THAT THERE ARE SO VERY MANY SECRETS, SECRET DEALS AND HAPPENINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER THE PAST 8 YEARS….UNKNOWN TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE IN NO WAY GOING TO RISK THESE BEING EXPOSED. SENATOR MCCAIN, KNOWS GOING INTO THIS, AS DOES THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THAT HE, IF ELECTED WILL SERVE A ONE YEAR TERM, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HIS AGE IF NOTHING ELSE. THUS A STRONG, APPEALING VICE-PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE WILL ALLOW THE PARTY TO POSITION ITSELF FOR THE 0-12 ELECTIONS. FOLKS, YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST HOW THE REPUBLICANS WIN ELECTIONS…THIS SCENARIO IS NOT UNREALISTIC. IN ORDER FOR SENATOR OBAMA TO BEAT SENATOR MCCAIN, HE WILL NOT ONLY NEED ALL HIS EXISTING SUPPORT, BUT THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF SENATOR CLINTONS FOLKS, ALONG WITH A MAJORITY OF THE SO-CALLED REAGAN DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS….A MIGHTY TASK TO ASSUME. I SAY THIS NOT BECAUSE I AM AGAINST SENATOR OBAMA, I SAY THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS THE REPUBLICAN GAME-PLAN. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, SENATOR OBAMA IS INTELLIGENT, ABLE, AND SINCERE….BUT HE BRINGS THE REV WRIGHT ALONG WITH HIM, AND THE “ILL-PLACED” COMMENT OF HIS WIFE ABOUT “FINALLY BEING PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN” AND THE REPUBLICANS WILL POUND HIM TO DEATH ON THIS ISSUE AND OTHER ISSUES. PLUS THE FACT THAT HIS RESUME’ IS SHORT ON EXPERIENCE. WHILE SENATOR CLINTON HAS HER FAULTS, SHE HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO THE REPUBLICAN ATTACK MACHINE MOST ALL HER LIFE AND I BELIEVE SHE IS IN A BETTER POSITION TO HANDLE THE ONSLAUGHT OF THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY COME NOVEMBER… SO AS JACK CAFFERTY WOULD SAY....WHAT ARE SENATOR OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS GOING TO SAY OR FEEL, SHOULD HE WIN THE NOMINATION BUT LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION? AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LOOKED FORWARD  TO A CLINTON SHOWDOWN COME NOVEMBER-------NOW ---THEY PRAY FOR SENATOR OBAMA. FOLKS WAKE-UP, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT SENATOR OBAMA WILL NOT WIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE, IF YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT AS PRESIDENT COME 08, YOU'D BEST PUT ASIDE YOUR PERSONAL DISLIKE OF SENATOR CLINTON AND SUPPORT HER NOMINATION. I DO NOT SAY THIS SOLELY AS A SUPPORTER OF HERS, I SAY THIS WITH A INNER GUT FEELING, THAT SHE IS OUR ONLY CHANCE TO WIN, PLEASE CONSIDER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE.
Hillary Clinton is done.  How can she possibly win now?  She has lost the black vote,the young vote, the rich democrat vote and the support of moveon.org and the democrat party base activist vote for attacking them.  The fact of the matter is she can't, so stick a fork in her she is done.
Looks like President McCain will win at this rate.
What is it with these conference calls?
I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ENDORSE, BUT FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING SACRED, PLEASE, IF YOUR A SUPERDELEGATE ENDORSE NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. ENDORSE, ENDORSE LIKE THE WIND!! WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION IF YOU DON'T ENDORSE NOW!!! THESE TWO ARE GOING TO KILL EACH OTHER IF THIS IS NOT SETTLED NOW!! I PERSONALLY CHALLANGE EVERY S.D. TO STAND UP AND STAND OUT FOR AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION!!  ENDORSE!!
You know Hillary mispoke and apoligized for it with the Bosnia trip. But fact remains she did make the trip and many other countries at the time and even more through time.Hillary  still worked and tried to better lives.Obama laughs at her no matter what. He has all along and that alone makes him the worse liar. He has given us a lot. No meeting with Canada until proven oh please. judgement-Rezko not good.Lies. No let him toot his train whistle and keep going.He struts and tries to make us believe he is so different. Only different thing is no experience.
It's truly sad when Obama is forced to respond to Clinton's attacks with those of his own. But don't be fooled folks - He is responding. She won Ohio in ugly fashion, and she will win PA in ugly fashion. At the end of the day, he has to state the obvious that Hillary will say or do anything to win. All this hurts Hillary, Obama and all Democrats - and HELPS McCain, and won't change the result - Obama will have more pledged delegates (by the way, that's how we nominate), more states, and more popular vote (which doesn't matter).

She is hurting the party now and needs to be shown the door. She simply hasn't been able to win unless she tears him down. Pathetic. Hopefully the slow drip of supers watching this fiasco will hurry this up and put her out of her misery....and ours.

I have to run and put on my flag pin now.
THIS IS ALL POLITICAL BS. No one cares, the people of PA understand that Hillary Clinton has plan and solutions for the tough problems we face. I would much rather have Clinton answering the phone during a National Emergency whether its, secuirty, or economically related. OBAMA HAS NO EXPERIENCE, and now is not the time to take a chance.

GO HILLARY
Stop reporting this junk.  Report on the real issues!
Good.

I am glad Obama is hitting her back, calling her out.

HE didn't start with the kitchen sink.  HRC did and he is just returning the favor.  

Imagine how much crap he COULD be throwing at her, but has decided to take the high road.

God knows people would LOVE to be reminded of all of HRC lies and scandals of the 90's.


Myself, I would like to ask HRC about her little "umbrella" foreign policy plan she seems to have dreamed up during the last debate.

Sounds like she plans to start World War 3.

Obama 08
The division in the party isn’t the candidates’ fault - they’re doing what candidates do. It isn’t the voters’ fault - they’re allowed to be divided. Democracy is a good thing, right?  Bbut too little in this primary has been about democracy.

The DNC has caused it, with not only this FL and MI nightmare, but what Dean is doing right now, in trying to stifle the voices of the remaining voters. The media is doing it, by taking sides, slanting coverage, and focusing almost exclusively on rubbish. And the powerful democratic political action groups and other organizations, like moveon.org, dailykos, democraticundergroud, etc. are doing it, by only furthering the agenda of half the party and spitting in the face of the other half. Folks, remember these are the very people who keep saying this primary is divisive and must be ended! NO, THEY DON’T DECIDE ELECTIONS, WE DO! If we give our power to them, we’ll never get it back!
There are 2 reasons why this this extended primary is great for democrats and America: 1) more people are focused on the issues than ever before and paying attention; and 2) The democratic nominee's dirty laundry will sound like old news to the public by the time they start attacking McCain - that's a GOOD thing.

Obama can dish it out, but he sure can’t take it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JNq7-aNIiM

Listen to Richardson at around 2:00 min.

Not to mention Obama’s a hypocrite: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_oil_spill.html

She’s been getting hammered at all the debates, and suddenly Obama gets an equal amount of tough questions and the whining is deafening.
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeze let this end soon.
Sometimes you just have to take that can of Whup-Ass off the shelf.  Blunt force is the only way to deal wit a triangulating, sociopath Clinton.  Hillary called you wimpy for bemoaning those rediculous debate questions?  OK, then. Time to finish this, Barack.
What's up with Chris Matthews constantly pulling for Hillary Camp, by continuing to say that there is no way Obama can get within double digits on tuesday night. It's not normal to here him push this winning margin unless he know's the election is fixed. Chris, c'mon man your going over board to please the Clinton Camp. It is evident that your trying to tell voters for Obama not to come out and vote because he going to lose big.
Hardball's Matthews campaigning for the Clinton Camp.

Darrell
Hillary spent 40 minutes of the debate on flag pins, pastors and on what someone Senator Obama knows said. Hillary should have to answer for the Columbian Trade Deal and the phrase 'screw em' she used when discussing voters. Hillary thinks she is exempt from being held accountable.  
BO knows politics,

Right on brother.  I'm wondering why Clinton's put down of Moveon.org and southern state blue collar workers is not getting more play.  This women would sell Chelsea to get to the White House.  
Here are some educational web sites for Hillary supporters in order to realize how fake she is

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/what_hillary_clinton_and_the_media_are_hiding_from_the_voters/
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56305
http://www.paulvclinton.com/

And if you think McCain will win then read below a comment posted in Huffingtonpost.com

"McCain is sitting on a motherlode of unreleased (out of 742,000 pages: 97% suppressed, 3% released) Abramoff documents that, if released, would expose and incriminate the entire Republican Party (and some Democrats).

John McCain is using this tall list of unreleased dirt to protect/blackmail members of the GOP (and some Democrats) into bowing down to King McCain.

Be very afraid if he becomes President.

Always wondered why more than half of the GOP hates McCain & why his GOP candidacy funding is so dried up? Now you know why - educate yourself:"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/03912/3990

People of PA, please for Obama so that we can end this ridiculus joke that Hillary is pulling. She is the most fake politician and may be incriminated in the "PaulvsClinton" case.

Obama 08.
Watching the Democratic Party go down in flames...Please people!  Can we stop the bickering and get together as a party so we can win in November.  The Reps are laughing at us...
HILLARY AND BILL HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS!  i HAVE GONE FROM BEING IN LOVE WITH THEM TO JUST ABSOLUTELY HATING THEM!  THEIR SPIN ON POLITICS, THEIR VICTIM PLAYS, ITS SICKENING.  THEY NEED TO JUST GO AWAY!  DON'T GO AWAY MAD......JUST GO AWAY!

OBAMA, 2008
This is really sad.  For some reason that only GOD knows the country remains divided predudices.  To Democrats backing HRC and vow not to vote for Obama if he legally wins the nomination, you really need to examine your soul and discover the truth behind it.  I was born and raised in Wilkes-Barre, PA and when Gov. Rendell stated that white people in PA would never vote for a black man over a white person, he was correct.  However, I find it very telling that while no one from these small town in PA minded being called a RACIST by their govenor, they lost their minds about someone saying they were bitter.   I don't know about you but being bitter or frustrated for whatever reason is far better than being reconciled to being racist.  One final point, to anyone who has a problem with the comments made by Rev. Wright ( I did), the ministries of Pat Robertson, John Hagee, Jerry Falwell, Ron Parsley, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Fay Baker were still full after each of their controversies.  If you think Obama should've left his church when the other 8000 church members didn't you don't understand the foundation of the church.  To any one of you who is Catholic, did you leave your faith at the dawn of the Catholic Church's Sex Scandal?  Just a question...  Think before you answer!
It just amazes me that people supporting Hillary Clinton can not see her for who she is.  I really don't get it.  Hillary Clinton is a smart woman...well at least she has a high IQ...but her only care, concern, goal is to be the first POTUS.  She lies...she lies...she lies...and she could care less if caught in the lie.  It's not just about Bosnia...look at her record...look at their record.  And for those of you who are looking to bring back the Clinton days...those days are over.  The economy is different now then it was in the 90's...what happened in the 90's is not going to happen now if someone doesn't change the way Washington is governing this country.  HRC is not going to do that...she wants to go into Washington and play the game as usual.  She and Bill owe too many people to go agaisnt the grain.  Can't you see...she says one thing...says she will do one thing...and she is not going to do that...and she won't apologize for it...she has an excuse for everything.  Wake up before it is too late...Hillary is not the right person to be POTUS...she cares nothing about you, me or any one else...she cares about Hillary, Chelsea and maybe Bill...she cares about making history for herself...so...if she screws up in four years...oh well...she'll ride off into the sunset with another guaranteed salary for life...but she will have been POTUS and we will be four years worst off...the old Bill Clinton days are not returning...they didn't have some sort of magic...it was the economy at that time and times have change...and that is exactly why we need a change...Clinton nor McCain represent change.
Teri B your way is to hi way just hopeles stope being stupid and thinking the others are the same. we see it
Kathy,
  Lose the caps and please don't ever post here again.  You're taking up too much space making a losing argument. Plus you can't spell.  Thank you.
While I do not like Hillary, I think she is 100 times more qualified than Barack Obama.  Anyone who believes his lies that he did not know Rev. Wright's racist and anti-American views is deluded.  His views are similar to George Soros, his billionaire backer, and the backer of Moveon.org.  I'm for McCain, but in the meantime..go Hillary!! I'd much rather see her in the White House than a smug, cunning, anti-American candidate whose past will come back to haunt him.
Yep! Hillary taking it to move-on is pretty amazing considering that it was started to defend her husband during his impeachment for lying to a grand jury.

Hillary the gift that keeps giving.
The attacks didn't start with Obama.  His campaign advisors were concerned that he wouldn't strike back because that was not his campaign strategy. But, to show that he is tough, he had to strike back or look like a wimp.  Now they are both dueling.
How ugly is it going to get?  Too many negatives. Too bad positive ads and positive speeches can't get the results needed to win.
If H. Clinton's new strategy was to show her "nicer, kinder" side, it didn't last, unfortunately.

Because their policies are so similar, it comes down to CHANGE or EXPERIENCE.

I am guessing that the Clintons will win in PA because she has Gov. Rendell, two big city mayors, familiarity with the state when B. Clinton ran for president, many connections (as she put it) and a state with many older citizens (who favor her) all on her side. It seems that she shouldn't need ads (since they already know her so well), and she should win by 15-10 points.



Her time to is coming.  The Many Faces of Hillary.  This movie cannot end soon enough!
the experience people are what took us in Iraq. You see how that has turned out!!!!!!! Obama 08
What a joke this Obama is.  First he whines that Hillary is running a negative campaign and then he runs two ads bashing Hillary.   What a load of Crat.


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