PA delegate count

Posted: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:07 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
NBC News has allocated so far a 75-65 split for Clinton out of Pennsylvania; 18 delegates are not allocated yet.

With that, Obama now leads by 156 pledged delegates: 1,482-1,326.

Our superdelegate total is Clinton 262, Obama 237.

In all, Obama now leads by 131 overall: 1,719-1,588.

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The media, itself, is playing such a powerful role in this election. Questions asked Obama seem to be more trap-provoking than the ones asked Clinton or McCain. He's running against two formidable opponents and the media. This does not come as a surprise. The reporters seem to have their on personal agendas going. What ever happened to fast, accurate, concise and true? It's hard to separate people from their opinions and sometimes we forget that reporters are just people with opinions.

Ethel Evans, Laure, MS (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:24 AM)

55-45 Clinton. Definitely not a game-changer of a primary for HRC. Obama had outspend her 3 to 1, otherwise, she would have blown him away with a higher percentage. She basically managed to keep herself from being asked to leave the contest. Besides, Obama was not expected to win PA anyway, however, he managed to erode her 20-30pt lead in PA, down to about 5 or 6 percentage, and she barely made double-digits. My name is Barack Obama, and I approve this butt-whipping.

Obama '08 "Time to turn the page."

David, Indianapolis (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:26 AM)

Please report it as it is : Hillary did not win with 10 points. As a matter of fact she did not even get a nine points difference. The rounding of the figures are done in a very peculiar manner and yes....it does make a difference

Frits, Curacao (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:27 AM)

At least it wasn't a Massive Retaliation..
15 delegates and little to no money in the bank...
Down by 20 points lost by 10...
Way to go Axelrod your a genius...!!!
Time ime ime is on your side ..yes it is..

BJ,CA (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:28 AM)

She's a fighter. Go Hillary . Make all the people in America proud.

Dorothy Marsh, Burlington, Iowa (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:29 AM)

Exactly no surprises here and all the media fodder in the world will not change the equasion for the Experienced Sen. Clinton who has been in politics for 3 decades however could not win the nominatio that she said would be over by Super Tuesday. yet the media continues to wack Sen. Obama over the head a Sen. who is not one of the Washington insiders but has managed to take the nomination from Sen. Clinton and that just unacceptable for the media and the Clintons. Everyone is talking about why Sen.Obama can't win when the question really is why Sen. Clinton is loosing she the well known commidity isn't that really the question? For her to be in the loosing position after all her years in Washington, husband who was President and now in Congress isn't that really the story? Perhaps The Majority of Americans are really tired of Business As Usual.

New Rules (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:29 AM)

She's a fighter. Go Hillary . Make all the people in America proud.

Dorothy Marsh, Burlington, Iowa (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:31 AM)

Bottom line: It's a delegate count and to that end...a win is a win whether it is by 1 or 100!!! So Sen. Clinton, if YOU can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen - NOW

Rick in Maryland (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:32 AM)

Superdelegates are a non-issue. No superdelegate wants to be part of the death of the Democratic Party.

In the 1986 Democratic primary for governor of Alabama, the narrow win by Charles Graddick was overturned by party officials for valid legal reasons. They determined that his narrow margin of victory was the result of his illegal misuse of his elected position of attorney general.

As a result of the Democratic Party's justifiable overturn of the result of the public vote, Guy Hunt was elected as the first Republican governor of Alabama since the 1870's. To this date, most Alabama governors are Republican.

None of the reasons Hillary Clinton comes up with for the superdelegates to overturn the results of the valid public vote even remotely compare to the reason the 1996 Alabama Democratic vote was overturned. It is with good reason that I warn that superdelegates overturning the will of the voters to please Senator Clinton would be the end of the Democratic Party. I believe the superdelegates know better than to overturn the valid public vote.

Gregory Peek, Birmingham, Alabama (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:33 AM)

:-) Why bother counting the delegates. Clinton will use anything else to steal the Superdelegates. :-) Too bad, soo sad. :-) Obama will win - there is no stopping him. Clinton will steal the nomination. McCain will win the Presidency. God bless America.

b.wood Fawngrove pa (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:35 AM)

The media amazes me! Sen. Obama was NEVER expected to win Pennsylvania yet and still this is a Clinton Comeback??? This is amazing how you all play into the Clinton game and spin it just as they want you to. She HAS lost this nomination. She can stay in it as long as she wants but the game is over.

DLH, Atlanta, Ga. (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:36 AM)

get used to these 2 phrases:

"President McCain"

"Clinton 2012"

Kudos to Clinton, although I still belive that she has no chance of winning the nomination, I truly belive that she has successfully torpedoed Obama.

Politics as usual prevails

Independent in TN (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:36 AM)

Barack won Delaware County by 10,
Chester County by 10
Philadelphia by 30
and lost Montgo. County by only 1.5.
These are the large counties surrounding Philadelphia that voted largley Democratic 4 years ago. Does this mean that much of the remaining delegates will go to Obama?

Scott, PA (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:36 AM)

Hilary is a power hungry woman ,she does not carre if the party goes to dogs or nor she want to win otherwise she cares nothing about anything.Out of frustration she is becoming bitter and hostile towards Obama.

krish,newyork (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:36 AM)

Everyone knows this race belongs to Obama. Clinton just needs to go away and to stop trying to tear the party apart.

Will in Seattle (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:37 AM)

Obama is leaving Clinton in the dust. PA was Hillary's last chance to make some progress and she failed to make up any significant numbers. Her performance was worse than OH.

Keith in PA (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:43 AM)

Since Hillary has no chance, why does she stay in the race and continue to attack the likely Democratic nominee? What kind of Democrat is she? This is clearly all about the Clintons returning to the White House. Did they forget to pardon someone?

Paul Johnson, Des Moines, IA (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:49 AM)

If this were compared to the baseball season, Obama would have a 5-game lead, in the win column, with 27 games left to win the division title. With this last win, Hillary only has two series left at home with another seven series still to play on the road. She has overused her players for the home games and has to patch a starting lineup the rest of the season. And, no matter how big the last series win was, she still has dissension in the clubhouse. And, one of the problems she has to face is that the frontrunner still has a healthy pitching staff, and a lineup that has seven players in the top-ten batting percentage. Do the math. Unlike most second-place finishers though, she will not have a chance to retool in the off-season, as "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".

blinddraw MI (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:50 AM)

WOW! Now thats a comeback. I'm loosing by over 130 points and I score 10 points. Just like she said. She has momentum and thats proven by the fact that she scored 10 points. Pay no attention to the fact that she was loosing by over 130. The numbers mean nothing.

Go Clinton.

Dallas, Texas (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:51 AM)

Florida doesn't count. MI doesn't count. It's an old trick ... if you keep casually and consistently saying something that isn't factual, eventually people will get so used to hearing it that they will come to forget that it isn't true.

Barbara, Houston (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:52 AM)

At that rate, she will catch up to Obama about this time next year. After IN & NC, Obama will increase his lead in both the popular vote and delegate count.

David Suttle, Kentucky (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:53 AM)

Hillary you keep saying Michigan and Florida I understood what the DNC said, I guess you did not since you kept your name on the ballot, put the shoe on the other foot if Senator Obama had done this and was begging for them to be counted you be crying FOWL.So lets go with was was legally voted and counted. Now its I won the states that counted so I guess all of the other states do not matter to you, Hillary I guess you will say and od anything to put a spin on things. Hillary you are still behind in States WON, Delegates and oh yes The Popular votes.
If this comes down to the super delegates choosing the nominee, and they do not pick the nominee that won states, popular votes and delegates I will not vote for there choice nor for the super delegate when time comes for their re election.

Bitter Bee Branch Ark (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:56 AM)

I have lost faith in this Democratic process...IT does not matter about the delegate count or SD or anything else. THE media has the power ...people with money have the power and the typical Americans are too stupid to see through the BS and the media knows it. The media use people like Joe and Pat to spin and sway the uneducated person's mind and unfortunately these people have the right to vote. The Media is bias in this country, Barack Obama will not win....the media will make sure of it. GOD help us, the American Democracy has been sold to the 1% and they control the Media too.

KW,Philadelphia,PA (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:58 AM)

Like a prize fight...Obama lack a knock out punch...

mort morgan.east Berlin Pa. (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:59 AM)

This is non sense.....she's likely to gain 15-20 more delegates than Obama. Stop minimizing every positive thing she does and making a big deal out of piddly little things that come from the Obama camp. (Unless of course it's Obama's relatiuonship with indicted political racketeer, Tony Rezko, or his friendship with Domestic Terrorist and Weather Underground Leader William Ayers, or of course the racist bigoted remarks that come from leaders of his church. Then you don't cover them at all.)

Sick of Obama's LIES and Sick of The Media Coddling Him (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:59 AM)

Does anyone think this stinks, even just a little bit? Leading into the primary, the pundits said she needed a 10-point margin and a 200K votes win.

That's almost exactly what she got. Strange.

I'm not questioning the win, just the coincidence of the numbers.

Oh, and to Chuck Todd: Obama did win Centre County, through a lot of hard work by many volunteers, myself included. I would appreciate less sarcasm when you say "yeah, State College", when referring to this county and how it went in the primary. Your tone was quite rude this morning when you were on Morning Joe this morning.

Susan, State College, PA (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:00 AM)

You're trying to tell me that Hillary is still BEHIND? here what i believe :
Hilary is going to use this PA victory to raise enougth money so she can pay the campaign debt and get the hell out that's her strategy period!
HOW IS SHE GOING TO WIN THE NOMINATION JUST HOW?

Public_Pundit (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:00 AM)

Please send her packing. I can't stand another minute of that infuriating woman and her rude husband. They have shamed this country enough.

Sam (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:01 AM)

When is the gang violence in Chicago going to hit Obama? This is where he was a community organizer and an influential member of society. This should be a part of his resume.

Steve, Tallahassee, FL (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:05 AM)

Ethel, what campaign are YOU watching?
Monkey Ears Obama wasn't asked any tough provacative questions in any of the debates prior to the one on ABC last Wednesday.He got nothing but soft-balls, and coddling from the mainstream media up until then, while they stuck it to Hillary.
You just don't like it when Obama is called to task for the low-life, anti-american crowd that he pals around with.

Ask Obama about Rezko too! (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:05 AM)

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