but that's not what Karl Rove told them ...

Vote with your head, vote for the economy, vote for jobs.

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again.  

Good cop, bad cop?

Chuck Todd - The latest polling % has changed according to www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/
It's not 10%, it's down to 8.6%.  Hey, every point counts, right?

Here we go with the anti-Obama 527's we Hillary supporters warned all you Obamabods about.  

I doubt it will have much effect.  Most people are sick of the mud and smears of the past 20 years.
The NC gop is just showing it's out of touch now.  
This stuff is just so predictable and tiresome.

The RNC doesn't want them to run it now because then they won't be able to run it in the Fall where it will have more shock value.

PLEASE RUN THE AD NC!!!

Head to head polling (averaged amongst many separate polls)

Obama leads McCain by 1.2%
McCain leads Clinton by 0.3%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

Vote with your head, vote for the economy, vote for jobs.

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again.  

RNC doesn't need to put Wright in their ads. The media will take care of that for them. Remember the MSM said Wright would be a 2-3 day story? Now it's a major reason for Obamas downfall. Who you associate with is a major factor in this country.

While Senator Clinton is on the campaign trail telling reporters that the use of her opponents' 'bitter' remarks could damage Senator Obama's chances to win the general election if he should win the nomination, a California superior judge will soon be setting a trial date for the historic civil landmark case in Paul vs. Clinton.

Apparently the Clintons believe that the word 'bitter' is far more damaging than testify under oath in a civil fraud trial.

For some reason, the media doesn't think that a historic trial to haul a former President and a Presidential candidate to court for fraud is newsworthy.

A status conference hearing is scheduled for April 25, 2008, just three days after the Pennsylvania primary.  California Superior Judge Aurelio N. Munoz is expected to finally set a trial date after delayment back in February.  

Judge Munoz ruled back in February that Paul's legal team can begin seeking depositions from a host of big names – including Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton – that allegedly were witnesses to an effort by the Clintons and top Democratic leaders to extract millions of dollars from Paul in illegal donations and then cover it up.  Discovery is expected to begin in May.

The Clintons have tried to dismiss the case, but the California Supreme Court, in 2004, upheld a lower-court decision to deny the motion.

The complaint says Bill Clinton promised to promote Paul's Internet entertainment company, Stan Lee Media, in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife's 2000 Senate campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to produce, pay for and then join them in lying about footing the bill for an August 2000 Hollywood gala and fundraiser.

The Clintons' legal counsel has denied the former president made any deal with Paul.  But Paul's attorney Colette Wilson has stated there are witnesses who say it was common knowledge at Stan Lee Media that Bill Clinton was preparing to be a rainmaker for the company after he left office.

Paul claims former Vice President Al Gore, former Democratic Party chairman Ed Rendell and Clinton presidential campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe also are among the people who can confirm Paul engaged in the deal.

The complaint also asserts that Senator Clinton filed four false reports to the FEC of Paul's donations in an attempt to distance herself from him after a Washington Post story days after the August 2000 fundraiser reported his past felony convictions. Clinton then returned a check for $2,000, insisting it was the only money she had taken from Paul.  But one month later, she demanded another $100,000, to be hidden in a state committee using untraceable securities.

Senator Clinton was dismissed from the case as a defendant, but Munoz already has made it clear he won't accept any attempts to block Senator Clinton from serving as a material witness.  The judge told Clinton's lawyer David Kendall: "Well, any opposition is probably going to be dead on arrival, if that will – if you understand what I'm saying, Mr. Kendall."

Paul has outlined the entire case in a one hour documentary entitled, Hillary Uncensored, Banned by the Media.  Paul believes the Clintons have thwarted the media from exposing this story, and he has set up a website called PaulvClinton to expose and inform the public of the latest news and information himself in the trial.

Perhaps voters should be 'bitter' that this story is not being reported by the mainstream media.

You can sign up on the website PaulvClinton to receive e-mails of the news in the trial as it happens.

They dont want the Wright spots run because there are far many more radical religious leaders on the right side of the aisle than on the left.

So while Wright could possibly hurt Obama, and in this case the democratic nominees in NC who support him, there would be far many more republicans, like McCain, who could be brought down by pastors like Hagee, etc.

Thats why Wright wont pose the problem for Obama like Hillary's people would like you to think he will.

But if a WHITE preacher or a WHITE radio personality, or a WHITE supporter of any kind had spoken the way Wright did it would be fair game?
This is a DOUBLE STANDARD!

Think. Wouldn't it be good for Hillary if they run it now? Why would the Republicans contemplate trying to assist Hillary at this point?

When the candidate of a major party associates with anti-Americans, not just briefly, but for 20 years, that is a problem. You want to know if he believes the same things.

But if a WHITE preacher or a WHITE radio personality, or a WHITE supporter of any kind had spoken the way Wright did it would be fair game?
This is a DOUBLE STANDARD!

RACISM comes in all shapes, sizes and COLORS


All those things did happen lets not forget they are just not reported on like this wright thing has been
not to mention wrights comments were taken from a white man who when he said then did not recieve any or very little slack for saying the exact same thing.
This alone proves that people will do anything to try a discredit a person simply on the color of there skin and not own there own beliefs, no matter what
else they are mixed with.  lets stop the nonsense and bring this country together for all people not just one group who has been the majority even though they are the miniorty.

Fasten your seatbelts Obamafreaks! It's starting already and my guess is repubs will destroy Obama much faster than it took them to crucify John Kerry. Of course, the Clintons are the only ones who can stand up to these attacks. Helllloooooo! If we choose Obama as our candidate, we will definitely lose in November. We will deserve it then.

This is just a sampling of what lies ahead if the Dems foolishly nominate Obama, who is unelectable. Everything is fair game. Barack Hussein Obama IS his name, he can't run from it.

Obama's negatives are rising with the revelations of the toxic "pastor" trio of Jeremiah Wright, Moss (Obama's new "pastor" who is just as bad as Wright) & Meeks, Syrian born Antoin Rezko, currently under criminal trial in Chicago, (Obama supporter David Wilhelm is named in the Rezko trial),William Ayers and Bernardine Dorhrn, Broadway Baby Store crimes, slum housing in Chicago, radical muslim leader Raila Odinga of Kenya, Africa (Obama's cousin?), AUCHI, (also currently under criminal indictment), Emil Jones, Exelon, Crown, etc..... WHO are these people and why does Obama associate with them?????

Who is funding Obama and why?? What is Obama's and his campaign manager David Axelrod's connection to the above named scandals???

Investigative reporters (are there any or are they too busy stalking the next Britney Spears sighting?) should be investigating and reporting on these serious, unanswered questions about Obama.

The voters have a right to know.

The Dems would be foolish to nominate an unelectable Obama. Hillary has already proven she can win big in the big,electoral rich, must win states the Dems must win in November. Obama has failed miserable to close the deal, despite outspending Hillary 4 to 1. In today's polls, Obama loses to McCain in matchups in must win states for the Dems while Hillary wins!

**VOTE SMART!! VOTE PATRIOTIC!!  VOTE HILLARY!!**

Good cop, bad cop, that's the game.

Senator Obama,

Hang in there. We have faith in you. Your ascent in politics has not been a fluke, we know that. We have no doubt that you, Axelrod, and your campaign will handle whatever the RNC/GOP will throw your way, with G-D's help. After taking on Hillary, Bill, McCain, the media, and the GOP, when you are still standing at the Dem. Nat. Convention, you will have proven yourself, as well as, your irrational critics wrong. Real change is never easy. That is the barometer by which our movement is measured. The crucible of resistance in which it is tested, is proof of it's most crucial necessity. Have faith, we are with you.

Obama '08

What is up with the voting machines around Philly

OMG, can't you see that even the Republicans aren't as low as HRC?  By their silence the "Supers"  are saying they approve of her tactics.  If a radical pastor is worse than a lying candidate--then God help us!

Where are the 2007 Tax returns from the Clinton's. They promised to release these by April 22nd and did not.

What are they hiding - another big fee to Bill from China?

I’m not surprised, there seems to be some collusion between Hillary’s campaign and the GOP.  Why else would she meet with Scaife in Pittsburgh?  But still, in spite of all her chicanery, Hillary is unable to close the deal. Obama is still ahead.
Sounding presidential is not the same as being presidential and Hillary just doesn’t cut it for me.

Obama 08  

This proves that the GOP does NOT want to run against Obama. They want Clinton, she is sooooo beatable. It was her campaign who did the infamous "Canadian WINK", it was the Clintons who showed that they care for noone but themselves when they even used their own daughter for their political gains by taking a child to a war torn country. What caring, loving parent would do that to a child. That was child abuse that the Clintons were never held accountable for. The GOP will remind the public that she gets so tired that she tells lies, per Little Willy. The GOP will remind us of where the money the Clintons depend on, comes from - NAFTA -. The Clintons "FRIENDS" will be brought up. The Clintons up coming court battle. Her inability to manage a campaign, how can she manage a country. She cries in public when she does not get her way. This crying will go far with other heads of countries, it will reinforce that she is tooooo emotional to make sane decisions, to govern our Great Country. They got their daughter a job with a hedge fund company. ALL the people who could prove that the Clintons did wrong had "fatal accidents" and or "committed suicude", coincidense???. All the lies/mis-speakings that have come from her and slick willy during this campaign, because she is tired, well she will be tired a 3:00 AM, so her judgement can NOT be trusted. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. X 100 fold.

Hawkins: Wright isn't an Anti-American. he is a marine. All Obama has to do is run an ad showing John McCain shaking hands with Jerry Falwell.

To: RACISM comes in all shapes, sizes and COLORS!

Yeah, and most of it hurts white people, stupid. You're just screaming to scream.

It's so easy for any non-white to get away with racism in this country, but if a white person even thinks about so much as categorizing someone, it's over. But keep the veil on, it matches the rest of your outfit. You, my friend, are the foster of the double standard.

Courtney Hawkins:

Rev. Wright served his country in the Marine Corps. Does that sound anti-American to you?? What have you ever done for this country?

McWar and the republicans want to run agaist Obama.
They know after 8 years of the idiot this is their only chance.

at least the RNC has the decency and honesty to see and know what's best for their party!

RACISM comes in all shapes, sizes and COLORS! (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:50 AM)
"But if a WHITE preacher or a WHITE radio personality, or a WHITE supporter of any kind had spoken the way Wright did it would be fair game?
This is a DOUBLE STANDARD!"

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If a white preacher had said those things he would be Jerry Falwell or Jim Baker and nobody would have batted an eye, in fact the right wing would praise him a hero and a patriot. THAT is the real DUBLE STANDARD!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html

It is a sad day for dems when the RNC and the Republican candidate focuses on the issues and not the "crap"  but the Clintons don't.

of course it's inappropriate - they don't want to waste their best material until the GE.

Courtney Hawkins:
When the candidate of a major party associates with anti-Americans, not just briefly, but for 20 years, that is a problem. You want to know if he believes the same things.

Well, yeah.  And he answered almost immediately after the first outbreak of the videos that he doesn't.  So to continue bringing it up as though it's still a question is just an attempt to smear him, not an attempt to actually answer any valid question.

If the national RNC wants to save it for the general election as suggested in one of the posts here, assuming Obama is the opponent, then I have no problem with that decision.  Otherwise, go ahead and run it and let the people decide.

Then, once the Wright stuff starts to take hold, a few ads featuring Mr. Ayers and his wife would be in order.

Meanwhile, hooray for Hillary's win in PA.  On to Guam, then North Carolina and Indiana, then West Virginia.  Apparently, you can't take the donkey out of the fight if you can't take the fight out of the donkey.

Love, love will keep us together...keep it together dems!

I think MSN is really stupid for talking about Rev. Wright so much.., when they clearly know that Obama can shut them down with all the things that have been said toward black by whites and Rev. Wright was speaking the truth and a no time has MSN ever read the entire sermon, just crazy because all they want to know is about the little snips of the sermon.  what a shame and to think I woke up this morning and heard Morning Joe talking about how MO looks, he was making fun of her.  That's disgusting.  the only thing you guys have on Obama is rev wright. He does and has never supported Farrahkan. Farrakan just said he like the young brother and the media has taken that to another level.  clinton help Farrakhan with the million man march and gov. rendell. Have you ever stopoed and thought about why Obama does not go negative with all the information that the black community has about clinton etc. Black communities has risen above this separation and we were the ones who has suffered the most. ridiculous you feed right into some of the racist people that are still left out here even though we have come so far. I am here to tell you that we don't sit around and talk about this crap because we find appaulding and stupid. Rev. Wright chruch hold senators and prominet business people who also attend that chruch Do a poll on that do not completely feel the way all of you feel.  Rev. Wright is a hous hold name and I hope each one of you tune in to his interview to see 8,700 thousand people white and black see every sunday. Inogrants has always lead to hate. MSN some of your staff are straight hateful and racist.  

When a candidate  remians married to a  man who had a string of affairs, lied to the American people , was found guilty of perjury, and  ultimately impeached, deals  with the Clumbians, and is to appear in court for a fraud trial in three days, that too is a problem!! By the way, I think that her brothers have been involved in some legal issues as well. This woman is not Mother Teresa, so I do not understand why her supporters think that these silly attacks on Obama carry much weight with the  more educated and savvy Obama supporters. Maybe that is the reason that she does not fare to well with those of us who have colleg degrees and know what time it is!

If they're not bound by the party, then I say they can run whatever they want.  Heard just a few Obamatons says "rules are rules."  So, let it rip!  And, I'm sure all those typical white person(s), gun-toting, bigoted Bible thumpers in NC will enjoy it.

MBM, my guess is Republicans are wanting Obama to win. They see him as a much better target at this point. Sure, HRC has baggage, but as she said, it's old baggage. People perk up to something that happened last week, last month, last year. They're tired of stuff that went on in Bill's presidency and quite frankly, see it as somewhat unfair to blame her for that. New garbage is a lot juicier than old garbage.

Here's how this works.  The "free" media replays the "Extreme" ad over and over again, while talking about how noble the national GOP is to make the 527 group take the ad down. This accomplishes  the original intention of the 527 (exposure of their anti-Obama ad), but they don't have to pay for airtime for it. And the GOp get props for "doing the right thing."

Actually there are plenty of white preachers who have said the same or worse (Robertson and Haggee on New Orleans) and what about the comments following 9/11 that came from several on the right including Robertson and Falwell.

I hope the Republicans will not set the country back another 200 years. The Democratic Party is tearing down the walls that seperate us.

While you might disagree with the nature of Wright's comments to call him anti-american is ignorant.

My husband was a Marine, WWII, he died blessing American and the land he fought for.  Problems and all -- he would never, EVER, be caught damning our great land.  I am ashamed of Rev. Wright, glad he is not my pastor.

Will not vote for OBAMA, he shows extreme bad judgment in friends, and real estate deals.  

Also, the big lie, I was raised by a single teenage Mom (she was in college, had a poor "upbringin", WHEN IN FACT, Mom was galavanting the globe on her communistic causes, and poor little ole Obama was suffering through one of the most elite private elementary and high school, Punahoe.  Anyone care to report on this and show his lies to the crowd who has jumped blindly on the bandwagon??

He is too dishonest and self-serving for me.  

The repubs are licking their chops, and waiting til Mr Whimpy is our candidate. Then they will destroy him with LEGITIMATE attacks. Obama will sink our party.

While you might disagree with the nature of Wright's comments to call him anti-american is ignorant.
Penn Daly, Washington, Dc (Sent Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:40
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You are wright!  He is living that dream in  a  4??5 million dollar house in a gated community, who knew the money would flow to the wright pastor! How much is that salaried gig?

For all you hacks saying that Obama won't have a chance in this election, just turn your attention to the one fact that the media is not talking about: In the Pennsylvania primary for the republican candidates, John McCain won with 525,000 votes. All the votes combined for republicans totaled a little over 700,000. Obama had 1 million votes in Pennsylvania last nite. Even if 30% of Hillary's supporters vote for McCain, Obama will still win by a large number with the remaining Hillary voters who would vote for him.  The news affilliates don't tell us this because they wouldn't be able to sensationalize the election like they're doing. You guys, this is just for ratings, the primary is over.

Obama 08

Yea Penn, and that means ALL of the above mentioned Pastors are racist and preach hate. ALL of them. NO matter what religion or race or gender. Stop trying to make excuses for Rev Wright, otherwise you might have to look at yourself in the mirror.

A tip for the "patriotic" and "smart" Katherine and John. Paranoia breeds more paranoia. This type of stuff is what the right wing thrives on. Do everyone a favor, especially yourselves, don't encourage them. It will come back to haunt rational people and also people who think like you do.

While I agree that the ad is outright inappropriate and should be pulled from the air, I also wonder how this compares to what the Democrats did in 2006. Didn't the Democrats artfully use the ASSOCIATION with George Bush as an effective deterrent during the election? That's exactly how the Democrats won in 2006. By reminding people how Republicans were associated with George Bush. How is this different?

Is it because we have racial overtones here? How does the double standard apply?

I am sincere when I ask this question...

Senator Clinton would be villified and accused of "going negative" if she were to publish such an ad that is speaking the truth.  So, kudos to the NC GOP.
If I had to hold my nose and vote for either dem. candidate, it would be Clinton, never obama.

McCain2008

IF THEY RUN THIS ADD THAT MEANS SEN JOHN MCCAIN HAS NO LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND NO INFLUENCE OVER HIS OWN PARTY.

CLEARLY SOMETHING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW

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