Therefore, this is my theory. I know it is a little “out there” but here it goes.

I noticed Sharpten was stirring up the racial plot, Bill Clinton was saying Obama played the Race Card (when he said nothing), and we also have Rev. Wright back in the picture.  Now, can this all be just coincidence?  We also have most of the major News Media turning on Obama at the same time—coincidence?  In addition, the Republicans and Fox news are just trying to throw wood on the fire—good for them.

However, what I see is this:

If “dirty” Hillary, can make the democratic nomination into a “race” issue where most of the whites for her, she will win.  She knows she is not going to get the black vote, she is behind, so what has she got to lose—except her self-respect?

Moreover, this is why this situation is getting so out of control—the news media are all behind Hillary.  The wealthy people who own the media are now blatantly throwing in their favor with Hillary.  Lou Dobbs, Joe Scarface, even Keith O., all seem to be leaning towards Hillary and doing everything in their credit to discredit Obama.  

The American Public see this; we are not dumb; and we as Why?

Why?  The answer of course comes back to the Race Card.

Why—who has backed Clinton—and it looks like they are going to lose.

Follow the Money and we find the reason to Why?

I am fine with voter ID as long as it can not be used for anything else like tracking voters, party affiliations, etc., and is only required for those who do not hav a valid driver license.  I am a registered Republican, although I vote as an Independent, and frankly some of what this administration has been doing looks too much like the "Big Brother" we have always been concerned about.  Imagine what the Nazis could have accomplished if they had access to everybody's info in a huge database. I agree that preventing illegals from voting will probably hurt the Democrats.  Obama has said that he would issue driver licenses to illegals.  Hopefully that is not going to happen.

I find it interesting when conservatives talk about how liberals want to expand government to huge degrees suddenly shut up and smile when they're able to create a national I.D. law comes up.  Big Brother anyone?

The reason there are liberals pissed about this is because there is a history of conservatives surpressing the vote, especially minorites, to fufill their own goals.

It seems like a very reasonable decision and completely in line with the Constitution.

And how VERY convenient that this ruling where Indiana is a party is handed down a WEEK before Indiana's primary.

Will this law be applicable to those voting in the primary?

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OBAMA SHOULD DEBATE HILLARY on one very important issue only ----

Hillary's public pronouncement that she would ... "‘totally obliterate’ Iran if Iran attacked Israel."

America needs to know each of their policies on this critical issue and then America can vote on whether

(a.) it is prepared to engage in an all-out nuclear war in the Mideast, and

(b.) if Hillary's response to ABC’s question was reasoned and appropriate.

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I suppose this wil hurt both candidates, more so, hillary since the media continually reports the older/poor vote for her.  

Whats with the timing of the decision, they will have less than a week to received photo i.d.; looks odd to me.

Obama08

The very idea of demanding picture ID to vote in this country is crazy.  We already have one of the lowest voting rates--this can only decrease it.

Show me ONE study that documents large voter fraud based on invalid voting that could be stopped with an ID.  Because you know if this was the problem people say it is, they'd have the studies to back it up.

Furthermore, were there such a study, they'd need to show IDs would help the situation more than hurt it.  No one is required to have a government-issued ID just to be participating citizen.  If that's the new rule, they'd better make IDs free and easy for citizens to get.  Are they going to start extending hours at the DMV and staffing them such that there's little wait?  Offering more locations to get an ID?

Voter fraud and voter irregularities ARE a problem.  So let's make sure electronic votes have a paper trail.  Let's make sure people aren't wrongly excluded from voting.  Let's make sure "suspect" voters are offered provisional ballots.  Let's make sure voting places are properly staffed with people and documents so that people don't just give up waiting and go home.

Make no mistake, the goal of this is to suppress voter turnout.  If legislators were truly concerned with "counting every legitmate vote," there are a lot more proven ways to make that happen.

It will harm the first time voters.. and there in no enough time for them to get a state issued identification.For example, students could provide their students cards with addreess and everything... but without photos they can't vote..It's one of Clinton's dirty play again...

I have not seen anyone from Indiana respond as of 11:10am

This issue is larger than the Voter ID - read as Driver License or state government ID for those who do not drive.

Sorry, your military ID is insufficient - it does not show proof of where you live.

Earlier this year the state was verifying drivers license to SSN's, birth certificates and other documents and kick thousands out of the system because errors.  Those individuals were sent letters to pull their licenses and state ID.  Let me make this clear these people were not illegal aliens - some were Native American.

Big brother is coming to a neighborhood near you.

I suspect that this law is a way to suppress votes, but I mostly find it ironic that right-wingers, who are constantly harping on the evils of "Big Gummint" (despite neo-con Bush's building up the biggest Big Gummint since Roosevelt)while apparently having no problem with this Big Brother/Big Gummint solution.

Finally a actual way to prove we are actually American citizens. What a novel idea. This a step in the right direction finally some one in the governing branch is doing something right.

your papers are not in order

Just a continuation of Rove's stategy to suppress the vote. Repulicans know that the lower the vote total the more it favors them. If anyone thinks this up coming vote is more than just electing a woman or black Democratic President they better open their eyes to the big picture. This is about getting a President w/ long coat tails to change the face of the Supreme Court that actaully believes in the constitution and not corporate charters.

CW - { but I mostly find it ironic that right-wingers, who are constantly harping on the evils of "Big Gummint" }

You're right CW. We shouldn't have any laws. We should all just use the honor system.

TOM IN MIAMI"""
YOU GOT IT STRAIT PAL ALL SHOULD HAVE A GOV. ID.
AND IF I SHOULD ADD TO THAT ANY ONE WITH A FALSE ID
OR IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING THEM SHOULD GET A PRISON TERM IN THE AMOUNT OF AS MANY LETTERS IN (FALSE IDENTIFICATION)19YRS.

How is this not a "Poll Tax"? In what universe can you deny that paying for a voting id is not a "Poll Tax"? If you have to pay to vote, it's a poll tax!

Where is the scrutiny on election fraud which is far more pervasive than voter fraud.

Where is the scrutiny on caging lists, no paper trail, and proprietary software for Diebolt voting machines?

uurrgghh....

Vote with your head, vote for the economy, vote for jobs.

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again.  

Did you know that this law does not apply to absentee ballots in Indiana? There is absolutely no requirement for any ID, much less a photo ID, to obtain an absentee ballot. You request one in writing or by phone from your county clerk's office and as long as that name is on the voter rolls, you are good to go. If voter fraud is really a problem, and in Indiana there is not much evidence it has been, why not worry about absentee ballot fraud?

Hey Wright C.:

"I feel this will place the poor, old and minorities at a disadvantage, those who are likely to vote for Obama, giving Hillary a advantage. "

Two out of those three groups vote for Clinton in large numbers (the poor and the elderly).  The other group, minorities, votes pro-Obama in the AA community, and pro-Clinton in the hispanic community.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

One Thing I like is that this is a free country and we can elect officials without war.  Here's a reality check unless Obama loses this race outright and it is given to Hillary based on her "miscalculated math" by the media and back room politics, I can guarantee be any reasonable doubt that John McCain will become the next President.  The African American community who is the most dedicated foundation of the Democratic Party will NOT vote for her and for the time use our Right to "BOYCOTT" our vote to prove that you can not take something without reprisals!!

Simple solution ... DNC mail fliers to all the people in Indiana detailing how they can vote with absentee ballots which I assume, does not require a govt photo ID.  

Also for the idiots who claim the dems want illegal aliens to vote, illegal aliens are too busy avoiding gov't contact...why would they ever show up to vote and expose themselves to deportation?  They don't. The illegal alien thing is a false pretext for the real reason - suppress democrat voter turnout.  

If they're voting with a mail-in absentee ballot, they're not required to show photo ID.  So what's the problem?
Rich Schmidt, Valparaiso, Indiana (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:33
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Well now there is the rub.. we can all do absentee ballots ....I MEAN ALL VOTERS!
That should take care of the whole matter, no need to go to the polls at all. No need to have the exit polls that are an intrusion on privacy, and the crap they spew about every last flea on your shoes!!
You the man Rich wish I thought of that!!   I am going to volunteer and canvass all the nursing homes to make sure all get to vote via absentee ballot, no need to drag em out of bed. :)

I'm not against requiring ID at the polls.  I don't think that its too much to ask for people who vote to still be members of society to the point where they keep ID on them, no matter the race or age, and I say that as an afr. amer. Obama supporter.  Though I grant you that this favors Repubs.- if Dems can't get enough people to vote that can be properly ID'd, they don't deserve to win.  Obviously I'm painfully aware of the legacy of literacy tests and poll taxes, but it's hard for me to see the equivalency here.

Hillary doesn't know where Bosnia is, with her stories all mixed up, etc.  I wonder if she knows where Iran is.  Then Bill makes excuses for her because she got the story mixed up due to being 60 yrs. of age, having travelled to so many countries.  So have many other people at that age, travelled, and still get their stories straight.  This was a terrible mistake, and certainly a lot of nonsense.  I would not trust Hillary on Foreign Policy, or any other policy for that matter. She should get off "this trail", before she messes up another country, or war.  Such nonsense, and waste of time and money.  She can't take the heat, so get out of the kitchen Hillary.  This is my advice.

If they're voting with a mail-in absentee ballot, they're not required to show photo ID.  So what's the problem?
Rich Schmidt, Valparaiso, Indiana (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:33
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Well now there is the rub.. we can all do absentee ballots ....I MEAN ALL VOTERS!
That should take care of the whole matter, no need to go to the polls at all. No need to have the exit polls that are an intrusion on privacy, and the crap they spew about every last flea on your shoes!!
You the man Rich wish I thought of that!!   I am going to volunteer and canvass all the nursing homes to make sure all get to vote via absentee ballot, no need to drag em out of bed. :)

I'm not entirely sure what the big deal is.  Someone enlighten me.  I think you should be required to show an ID.  NJ doesn't require an ID they just require a signature which is checked against a scanned copy of your voter registration card signature.

If I want to drive my vehicle, I must carry my DL ID with me.  What's the difference?

Voter fraud is nothing new, is it???  What happened to the Florida votes, with Clinton & Gore???  If that was not fraud, then what was it.  Should we ask Al Gore once again.  That was disgusting!!!!

The burden of traveling to a more distant BMV office rather than a conveniently located polling place is probably serious for many of the individuals who lack photo
identification. They almost certainly will not own cars, and public transportation in Indiana is fairly limited. According to a report published by Indiana’s Department of Transportation in August 2007, 21 of Indiana’s 92 counties have no public transportation system at all, and as of 2000, nearly 1 in every 10 voters lived within 1 of these 21 counties. Among the  counties with some public system, 21 provide service only within certain cities, and 32 others restrict public transportation to regional county service, leaving only 18 that offer countywide public transportation....

For those voters who can afford the roundtrip, a second financial hurdle appears: in order to get photo identification for the first time, they need to present " ‘a birth certificate, a certificate of naturalization, U. S. veterans photo identification, U. S. military photo identification, or a U. S. passport.’" As the lead opinion says, the two most common of these documents come at a price: Indiana counties charge anywhere from $3 to $12 for a birth certificate (and in some other States the fee is significantly higher), that same price must usually be paid for a first-time passport, since a birth certificate is required to prove U. S. citizenship by birth. The total fees for a passport, moreover, are up to about $100. So most voters must pay at least one fee to get the ID necessary to cast a regular ballot. As with the travel costs, these fees are far from shocking on their face, but in the Burdick analysis it matters that both the travel costs and the fees are disproportionately heavy for, and thus disproportionately likely to deter, the poor, the old, and the immobile.

from KOS

OBAMA SHOULD DEBATE HILLARY ON ISRAEL ........... (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:37 AM)

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They will need birth certs and pic id's for a debate, sorry! Must submit ASAP!  OBAMA SAID SO! DEAL OR NO DEAL!!

Would people PLEASE quite crying "poll tax"?!

You can get a photo ID for FREE in Indiana!

FREE!!!

It's frightening to see so many people express such strong opinions on something they know nothing about!

Boy, this post sure brought out the hateful and spiteful in America. The poor are often elderly or infirmed who go once every few years to get their social security info updated. As a formal social worker I can tell you that many people can't make it to the DMV easily--whereas they vote at their local school or fire department. They often have no idea where their birth certificate is. They might not have access to public transportation.

What is the matter with you people? Have some charity in your heart for those less fortunate. With posters like this, the US doesn't need enemies. I am SO sick of people saying that voters are illegals, are you kidding me? They aren't about to come and vote and risk being caught! No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket, it's look out for #1 and screw everyone else! SHAME ON YOU!!

OBAMA SHOULD DEBATE HILLARY ON ISRAEL ........... (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:37 AM)

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They will need birth certs and pic id's for a debate, sorry! Must submit ASAP!  OBAMA SAID SO! DEAL OR NO DEAL!!  The all American colonoscopy is every where!

Steve, Springfield, Ill. (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:04 AM)

The state Indiana ID does not cost.  If there was a cost this would be considered a poll tax.

I stand corrected on a previous post the valid ID's for the state include Drivers License, Military ID, Passport, and Indiana photo ID.
A student ID from an Indiana State school must have the four requirements set by the state; photo, expiration date, name that conforms to voter registration, and issued by state.

Remember Chief Justice Roberts is an Indiana boy.

The state of PA will provide you with an Id free at the DMV, even if you do not drive.  

Not a problem.  

Volunteers from your party will be more than willing to take anyone to get the appropriate ID and to register to vote and then to vote.  

Again, NOt a problem.

By the way, I believe that in Illinois, we're required to have ID on us at all times.

Now this was really makes a lot since.  Just go get fake ID off any street corner.  I'm glad to hear my tax dollars are hard work what waste.

IT's the clear intent that sucks here is to DIS- infrancise non-republican voters. There was no great voter fraud in this state, ony ways to screw over poor voters!!!  How much more American can they get.  They should be soo proud.  

I served as Judge of Election for 10 years in PA.,  and it becomes clear who is a valid voter and who isn't.  You don't need these asinine laws to protect people.  As judge, if a person did not satisfy me, I sent them to one of three judges holding court (assigned every election)  in local police stations to get a court order to vote.  They satisfied the judge, they came back with a court order, they voted. Simple and easy.  However in this foolish waste of time law in Indiana, a person can still vote with a provisional ballot without a photo ID and come back 10 days later to attest to their identity (which still doesn't rquire a photo ID)  IN the end this law is going to P iss people off and there will carloads going to court to attest to their identity and vote anyway. Note to the Bums: your still screwed!!!

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