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Bill defends wife on gas tax

Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:13 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Carrie Dann
SANFORD, N.C. -- As his wife was spending the morning with an Indiana driver to publicize her plan to fix suffocatingly high gas prices, her husband was in North Carolina, fiercely defending her support of a gas tax holiday.

"She has been criticized by her opponent and by others, who say, 'Oh, it is just pandering to people to offer them gasoline relief,'" he said, standing atop a long flatbed truck at an early polling rally.  "Well, let me tell you something folks -- when people are choosing every week between whether they got enough money to go to work and enough money to put food on the tables for their kids -- it is not pandering to try and help them get through the next six months."

Clinton has concentrated on the oil issue during his two-day swing through North Carolina. His wife's proposal to eliminate the gas tax during the summer months has been criticized by rivals who point out that the short-term benefit for many Americans would register at a savings of less than $50.

Other critics say that the summer solution fails to encourage the responsible seeking of long-term solutions to the energy crisis. The former president took special exception to that claim in Apex this morning.

"Hillary has got a long record as an environmentalist," he said. "But to say that giving people a little slack on these gas prices is going to discourage us from switching to higher mileage cars is just factually wrong. We're dealing with people here that cannot pay their bills."

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Bill, the fact is you and Hillary are trying to throw us a bone, when we need a little meat.
There is no fool like an old fool
Drip drip drip. Obama has three times as many drips running his campaign as anyone else. Obama is the biggest one, drip that is.
I think Clinton needs to be investigated for "voter manipulation."  A gas tax holiday?  That would be TERRIBLE!!!!!  Must I offer a quick reference to economics 101?

Hmmm...
1) Gas tax is cut out, so prices fall.
2) Prices fall, so demand goes up.
3) Demand goes up, so prices increase.

Therefore, by the end of the summer, we're right back where we started, except for two HUGE hits to the hard-working American people:
1) None of the increase in gas price is tax money that goes to maintaining and building America's infrastructure.  Therefore, our old, run-down roads and bridges take an even bigger hit.
2) Once the gas tax is reinstated at the end of the summer, it will be TACKED ON to the already-back-where-we-started price.  Therefore, gas prices will soar over current levels.

Think, people: A gas tax holiday = 1) A significant loss in funding for our crumbling infrastructure and 2) paying MUCH more at the pump than currently projected by the end of the summer.

Obama understands this.  Economists understand this.  Even Clinton and McCain understand this.  But, Clinton and McCain are just pandering.
I am not a proponent of the gas tax. I believe that it is putting a bandaide on an open wound. Not to mention in the long run it actually hurts our already failing infrustrucre. So eliminationg the gas tax would be ok if and only if they could pay for road and bridge maintenance another way.
America has had lower gas than most of the world for a long time. Now we are paying the price it sucks, but it is our reality. And we can thank the people who voted for pres. Bush not once, but twice.
It's sad that a former president, and one that I voted for twice, has lowered himself to push the propaganda of a gas relief tax for the summer to promote his wife's nomination.  They both will do anything to return to the white house.  Bill, you're not very attractive as the bad cop.  
"[P]eople are choosing every week between whether they got enough money to go to work and enough money to put food on the tables for their kids[.]"

Okay, Bill, how does rescinding the gas tax for six months help when our infrastructure is falling apart? Sure, it'd be great to pay less at the pump; but I'd rather pay more at the pump and not have to pay $600 to get my car fixed because it hit a pothole that couldn't be covered because there were no funds.

Bill, you pandering butt-hole, go away.
Drip . . . drip . . . drip. More information is coming out on Obama's beliefs and values ever day, and it's not pretty.  Drip . . drip . . drip.
Bill's nuts. $50/3 months is just over $4/week. Who can feed their kids for $4/wk? Is he advocating ketchup sandwiches? Even then that would not be enough for the ketchup.
Hillary is trying to throw voter's a bone with her suspension of gas tax for the summer, we all know the price will go right back up. I would rather Hillary spent her time explaining how her Government mandated Health Plan would collect premiums from us and what the penalty would be if we don't choose to pay them. Hillary's plan would exempt large corporations from providing health benefits to employees and those worker's will actually be paying more for insurance under Hillary's plan. Sounds like a big payoff for business. Also would like Hillary to explain how she was excused from testifying in the 'Clinton vs Paul' Federal case until after the election, this is something we voters' need to hear BEFORE we elect a President.
I'm just a regular ole' Obama supporter (not in the campaign or anything), but if I were an ad guy, I'd put together and run something like this:
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Senators Clinton and McCain are proposing a summer gas tax holiday, because they say it will ease the burdens of high gas prices.  Those savings, for the average family, will add up to about $28, total.  That breaks down to about $9 a month, or around $0.25 a day.

And what comes as a result of that quarter?  The Federal Highway Fund loses $3 billion that would have gone to keep roads and bridges safe.  200,000 construction jobs will be lost.

The economy may be in trouble, but we’re all in this together.  Do you really want to cost someone their job for that quarter?

Make no mistake, the Clinton and McCain campaigns are doing nothing more than trying to distract you with a shinny object [IMAGE: spinning quarter].

For real, meaningful solutions, take a hard look at Barak Obama.  We truly need a different kind of politics.
Drip .... Drip. That's the air dripping out of Obama's poll numbers.
If the oil companies can sell gas for $3.75 with the gas tax, then they are going to sell it for $3.75 without the gas tax.  In saying and defending the suspension of the gas tax, you are either naive, or pandering.  
if the economist have come out and said its not a good idea i think we should listen. besides, the gas station would still raise the price to cover the tax lose.
What a scummy, two-bit liar.

Hillary's just isn't a defendable position, and yes, it is 100% pandering.  The nominal benefit is outweighed by the longer-term burden created by it.

McCain-Clinton 2008!!!!
Go for it MSNBC.....can't stop HRC reports this morning and the only thing you can talk about Obama is the Wright issue.  Are you people for real?  You asked Obama to sever the ties, he did now what do you want?

Further to my point....Joe Watkins was on this morning as a republican minister MSNBC analysis but was more as a republican politician than a minister.  Why do you allow him to have it both ways.  Oh I get it if a black minister goes after Obama you can wash your hands of the comments.  

Bob, Chicago
Less than 50 dollars... Short-term pandering...nothing more, nothing less... Not to mention it's taking money away from the Highway Trust Fund.  
And people call Obama a Manchurian candidate? Talk about can't see the forest for the trees . . .
I am very upset that the Clintons think we are gulable and stupid.  We all know that is a temporary fix and they are playing on the fact the nation is in a recession.  We need long term solutions because that solution will lead to a destruction of the infastruction of our roads and road workers.  The gas tax goes toward keeping our roads safe and employing those workers.  Why do they want to be a part of having workers laid off.  Robbing Peter to pay Paul.  America wake up and do the homework on this.  It is very stressful that people are buying this crap the Clintons are feeding out to the people.  NAFTA loss jobs now they want Gas tax relief to lose jobs for people.  ENOUGH is ENOUGH Clintons.
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Obama may not be ruthless enough to win.

Perhaps Obama should have thrown Rev. Wright ‘under the bus’ as Hillary did to Geraldine Ferraro, for far less.

Obama should have learned that the Clintons’ motto is:  “Nice guys finish last --- when taking them on.”
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Please... someone give this man a blanket and a cup of tea and find him a rocking chair!  He is an ASSet to his wife!
Let's call a spade a spade here people. The "relief" is nothing more than what, $3-4 every time you fill up? I hardly call that relief.

In no way does that relief justify the $10 billion that will be lost for our roads and infrastructure or the jobs that would have been created with that $10 billion. This argument holds not water in the long term scheme of things, sorry.

http://www.politivine.com
Oh please Mr. Clinton, would you rather save the taxpayers $25.00 each which would cost each state millions of dollars for bridges and road repairs thus eliminating jobs for the working people. Lets think about this! Go O'Bama!
Yes, Bill, it is pandering. Why not just stand on the corner and pass out twenties if you want to "help those who  are hurting". Or better yet, go back in time, and Don't pass NAFTA and give China Permanent Most Favored Nation Trade Status.  Get in that time machine, apologize to the country, admit your lies & resign.  Then Gore would've stepped to the Presidency and restored some dignity to the office and we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now.  Now Bill, you are pushing Colombia Free Trade all around Latin America, getting paid $800,000 while Hillary pretends to be against it.  You can't trust a Clinton.
Personally speaking, Hillary's bandaid proposal of elimination of the gas tax during the summer months will not help me. I did the math - I would only save $30.24 - total! I'd rather pay the gas tax which funds infrastructure maintenance and construction workers' pay. Her proposal would also result in construction worker layoffs. How does this plan really help?
Bill, Sen Clinton, and McCain must take American people for fools.  If you do a Holiday gas tax relief it will hurt the road workers and repair of our roads and bridges.  There is a reason for the tax and if you take it away it will cause a deficit and to meet that deficit and jobs will be lost once again.  The Clintons have already lost jobs through NAFTA and now they want to create more job loses.  Do your homework people before they take more food off your tables.  They painted NAFTA as a revolutionary program that would create more jobs and bring money to America instead it brought more money to those overseas.  My friend is a road worker and says that if that Gas relief tax happens there will be layoffs and cutbacks of road and bridge work done which will make things unsafe in the long run.  We have to think long term and not just for the moment.
shameless - both of them

Even Paul Krugman gave OBama credit for being on the right side of this issue -- and you KNOW that must have killed Krugman to write anything nice about Obama
Domenico, as a journalist do you have no responsibility to point out that Bill Clinton's fierce defense of his wife's policy is an outright lie that relies on a completely false premise. Her policy will not provide a single penny of relief to the American people. If you cut the tax on a product with a supply that cannot be expanded and a demand that is inelastic the price of the product will go back to the same level before the tax was cut. If the policy doesn't lower the price how does it provide relief to the American people? In reality it only changes who collects the 18.4 cents from the fedral government to Exxon Mobil.  
Bill Clinton in 2000 on a proposed gas tax holiday:

"But the problem I have with it, apart from what it might do to the Highway Trust Fund and the spending obligations that have already been incurred by the acts of Congress, the budgets, is that I'm not sure that the savings would be passed along to the consumers in addition to that."
OK, Obama disowned his pastor, I think it's time Hillary disowns this insult to America.
Ya-da, Ya-da, Ya da.
Just like the Iraq War we will find out that once again Sen Clinton and Sen McCain got it wrong and Sen Obama gets it right.
Please slick willie,tell me how much of a break I'm going to get,a half a tank,not even.So out of touch.Three jets flying hillbillys around the country,pandering to the not so educated who will never see the real effect this will have.This is just more big oil lobbyist that own the hillairs and McBomb .300,000 jobs would be lost if this tax where to be used,billions of dollors for road and bridge repairs would be lost,do you think big oil will not raise prices to offset the losses.This is what happens when you are in the lobbyist pocket.
Go away Bubba, no one cares what you think.

Obama all tha way
People will have to figure out sooner rather than later that they can't feed their gas hogs forever. We've had 30 years to learn. The gas tax holiday will only hurt the economy by obliterating highway construction jobs. Is that worth it to get maybe ten bucks a month???
Bill... shut up.  Please.

The removal of the gas tax is less than (probably) the "relief" people are getting with the rebate checks Congress passed, which are now pretty much universally derided as doing nothing to ease economic pain.  It's actually worse than that, because the underfunded highway trust fund gets thwacked at the same time.

Bill was good president.  But please, can't we find this guy an intern and a box of cigars and lock him in an office until the primary is over?
Anything but the truth from the Clinton to get back into the White House.  We know if you lift the gas tax that it will create a problem elsewhere and may even cause job layoffs.  Need a long term plan to get my vote and I think Sen Obma has showed the long term interest that will help my children and grandchildren, its not about me it's about us and Sen Clinton has yet to learn that.
Bill... shut up.  Please.

The removal of the gas tax is less than (probably) the "relief" people are getting with the rebate checks Congress passed, which are now pretty much universally derided as doing nothing to ease economic pain.  It's actually worse than that, because the underfunded highway trust fund gets thwacked at the same time.

Bill was good president.  But please, can't we find this guy an intern and a box of cigars and lock him in an office until the primary is over?
It IS possible to do 2 things at once: provide short term relief while working on long term solutions. Working families will not sniff at an extra $50 for groceries during this period. Tthen again for the GOP,a party that answers everything w/tax cuts, what a concept!
This would do more harm than good!  Instead of a gas tax holiday that comes out of money that builds roads and provides many thousands of jobs, how about making the oil companies pay us back out of their immense profits that they stole from us!
Way to stand by your wo-MAN Billy-Boy!

Mr. Clinton also added that "Hillary has a long record of making poor choices and living with them regardless of the fallout because it is what is best for her political career.  Hell y'all, if she'd divorced me do you think she'd be doing this well in the race?  Now when I say "race" I'm talking about the primary, not the color of anyone's skin.  Dang it! You press mongers are always twisting my words around."
The gas relief is a joke.

The oil companies will just raise the price of gas to reap the extra reward anyways. All that will happen is the government will lose out on taxes.

BTW, if its so easy to place a "windfall profit tax" on oil companies why wouldnt she suggest that regardless?

Obvious pandering.
hahaha.... he should get off that truck and catch up on the news.  Top economists (including a Nobel Prize winner) are SLAMMING that moronic gas tax cut plan.  It's all over the media.

It was all quite contrived, like many campaign events, with Secret Service in the back seat of the truck and a swarm of media at the station.
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But Obama playing basketball with UNC isn't at all contrived?  I doubt he was talking policy while shooting hoops.  But that's a 'cool' publicity stunt, right?  If we're going to have a stunt designed to draw attention to something, I'd rather it be ridiculous gas prices, than basketball (no offense basketball folks, I'm a Terp fan myself).  March Madness is over.
Bill, I would suggest, then, that your wife should introduce the legislation to make it happen if she believes in the Gas Tax Holiday THAT MUCH!

C'mon, Senator Clinton...what happened to "Solutions, Not Speeches"?

You have the power.

You're a US Senator!


...but you won't introduce the legislation because if it passes you'll lose the pandering...er...talking point and if it fails it might show the American people that the majority thinks it's a bad idea.

No...better to score points on the stump by pretending you're powerless and just talking about the Gas Tax Holiday!

There's your "fighter" for ya!
It saddens me that Hillary is pandering to cash-strapped, undereducated voters in order to win this thing.  Just shows the cynical, dishonest politician she is.  Why doesn't she mention that there's no way her gas tax plan would work, since there's NO WAY this Congress would approve a windfall profits tax this summer?  Does she plan to put on her Rocky boxing gloves and beat the cr-p out of every Congressperson to get her way? (being the "fighter" she is, of course).  Sheesh.



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