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Clinton picks up four NY supers

Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:12 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Clinton picked up four more New York superdelegates--all add-ons named at the state's convention, taking place today.

Clinton, a senator from New York, has gotten the vast majority of New York's superdelegate total, buffeting her superdelegate lead, as, of course, New York is one of the most Democratic states in the country. (States get more delegates based, in part, on past presidential voting preference as well as size.) Clinton has picked up 45 New York superdelegates to Obama's one. Three NY superdelegates are undeclared, by our count.

Obama, as we've noted, is likely to pick up the three Illinois superdelegate add-ons by Monday, after they are officially named at this weekend's Illinois state convention.

There are almost 60 add-ons from various states, who have yet to be named and will likely declare their endorsements after they are appointed at state conventions. Those included, there are 276 undeclared superdelegates overall.

The New York superdelegate add-ons are: New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo (former Gov. Mario Cuomo's son), former Manhattan Borough President C. Virginia Fields, New York Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli and New York Assemblywoman Carmen Arroyo.

SUPERDELEGATES: Clinton 272-249
PLEDGED: Obama 1,490-1,334
OVERALL: 1,739-1,606

With these four from NY (but not including those from IL), since PA, the count is Obama 12, Clinton 10.

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Neither BHO nor HRC will have the required 2,025 delegates. Let the Convention pols decide who is most electable in the November election.
We'll see a bunch more heading Obama's way very soon.  Obama has a lot of positive stuff happening heading into the weekend before the election... great appearances, great ads, great endorsement, he's doing a great job getting out his message, etc.

GO OBAMA!

Keith, PA (Sent Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:36 PM)


Thanks for the weather report from Jones Town...only sunny days in Obama-land. Don't forget to lace up those sneaks...
Will somebody please report this as news. I haven't seen it once. Oh, and for all of you still talking about Wright, get over it. He's not running for president. If you want to talk about guilt by association Hillary is married to an adulterer/womanizer who was impeached. That will be on his record forever. John MCcain has Hagee and a white supremacist on his campaign. That's ok he's a maverick.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200804/NAT20080429a.html
We'll see a bunch more heading Obama's way very soon.  Obama has a lot of positive stuff happening heading into the weekend before the election... great appearances, great ads, great endorsement, he's doing a great job getting out his message, etc.

GO OBAMA!

Keith, PA (Sent Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:36 PM)


Thanks for the weather report from Jones Town...only sunny days in Obama-land. Don't forget to lace up those sneaks...
WOW.  New York's 45.  BIG SURPRISE.  I GUESS THIS IS SUPPOSED TO 'SHOW MOMENTUM.'
And she is closing (or has closen) the gap in NC according to 3 polls released this week.

csh, IL (Sent Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:36 PM)

closen?  
Still waiting on that Magnequench story, MSNBC...
VERY interesting Hillary moment from O'Reilly last night.  This is far more elitist than what Obama said in San Fran, especially since Hillary is trying to be the working-class hero.  To O'Reilly: "And the rich, God bless us, deserve to confer our blessings on the next generation" (the last part is paraphrase)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N64fDLplBfQ

Doesn't she deserved to be questioned about this, since her whole campaign rests on the opposite perception?
Ah excuse me Sue from LA, New Yorkers don't know any better?
Do you really expect us with statements like that to support Obama IF he gets the nomination?

And you folks - Obama supporters - accuse people who feel strongly that it is Hilary that the country needs as divisive? If you are to follow his preachings - change, hope - this is sounds like typical politics with childish undertones to me.

You realize how much delegate and electoral points New York has? Sure, keep pissing us off the same way you folks pissed Florida and Michigan. That's really smart and mature.

MSNBC you have to post this, be fair.
Ok, you want Substance from Pat Huntington NY as to why Obama can't win in November, here you go:

Obama Campaign: Ohio and Florida Don't Matter
by Todd Beeton, Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:45:41 PM EST

Last week, Chris Cilizza posted excerpts from an Obama electability memo (h/t notlarrysabato in Breaking Blue) sent around to superdelegates. The memo touts Obama's ability to expand the map as evidence that he's a stronger nominee in November than Hillary Clinton.


"His ability to expand the Democratic base, and his ability to capture the crucial Independent vote, make him a stronger general election candidate than Senator Clinton, who would enter the fall campaign with the highest unfavorable ratings of any nominee in half a century," reads the memo. OUCH!

The memo goes on to detail polling from across the country that makes their case -- breaking down the map into "big states," "traditional battlegrounds" and "making new states competitive."

Here's how the memo breaks down the states within those categories:

Big States: California, New York, New Jersey and Illinois.

Traditional Battlegrounds: Iowa, North Carolina, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Minnesota and Pennsylvania.

New States: Colorado, North Dakota, Virginia, Montana and Texas.


Putting aside for a moment the absurdity of placing North Carolina on par with such blue states as Oregon, Michigan and Pennsylvania in the "traditional battleground" category, notice a couple states missing from the analysis altogether?


Two states that are not mentioned in the Obama memo are Florida, the key battleground in the 2000 presidential race, and Ohio, the Florida of the 2004 contest.

Any Democrat making a case for his electability had sure better address the scenes of the crime from 4 and 8 years ago but here instead, it's as if Obama is saying, well...that Florida and Ohio just don't matter.

It's a tough case to make to Democrats, it seems to me, that Florida and Ohio are irrelevant in the scheme of the presidential race, but it's no wonder why he'd ignore the states. According to the latest Quinnipiac University polls, taken April 23-29, not only does Hillary Clinton crush John McCain in these two states, but Obama comes up just short within the margin of error against the Republican.


Florida
Clinton (D) 49%, McCain (R) 41%
McCain (R) 44%, Obama (D) 43%

Sample: 1,411 Florida voters. Margin of error: ±2.6%.

Ohio
Clinton (D) 48%, McCain (R) 38%
McCain (R) 43%, Obama (D) 42%

Sample: 1,127 Ohio voters. Margin of error: ±2.9%.


As the Quinnipiac analysis puts it plainly:


"If the super delegates are looking at electability, these results could be a shot in the arm for Sen. Clinton. No one has won the White House since 1960 without carrying two of these three swing states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. And she clearly is running much better against Sen. McCain than is Sen. Obama, at least for now," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

Now, I've said before that, while it makes it more difficult, either Democrat can win without Florida or Ohio. You add New Mexico and Iowa to the states John Kerry won and the Democrat would need only 6 more EVs to reach the magic number of 270. Clinton could deliver that in Arkansas (6 EVs) and Obama in Colorado perhaps (9 EVs.) But when you're living in world in which the nomination is essentially in the hands of superdelegates who are likely to be swayed by traditional electability arguments, I suspect Florida and Ohio matter indeed.
No surprize here.  They just know they still get invited to dinner with the Clintons when Silly Hillie heads back to NY with her imaginary ones tucked between her legs.
GO HILLARY !!!!   Yes You Will!
Obama will never be elected - he is just far too radical to ever be President!  Obama needs to talk policy and issues that concern us - enough about Wright.  But, Obama cannot seem to speak on the important issues without a prepared speech from the teleprompter.  Will he ever face Bill O'Reilly on Fox???? Don't think so.
The man has MoJo....no stopping him.  President Obama.
UPDATE: FIFTH SUPERDELEGATE TODAY ENDORSES HRC:

Connecticut Automatic Delegate John Olsen Endorses Hillary
Connecticut automatic delegate John Olsen announced his support for Hillary Clinton today.

“Hillary Clinton is the champion working families need,” Olsen said. “She is a fighter and a doer who will stand up for the middle class and deliver quality, affordable health care for every American. She is the strongest candidate to beat John McCain in the general election and win back the White House.”

A DNC member since 1996, Olsen is President of the Connecticut AFL-CIO and former Democratic State Party Chair.
Obama has my vote.

White, 55, female, mom/grandmom
Why is there no mention of the fact that, while Senator Clinton might have gained 4 superdelegates by add-ons from HER OWN STATE, she lost one major superdelegate, former DNC Chair, Joe Andrew, to Senator Obama? So, in actuality, she's only netted 3 superdelegates today, while Senator Obama, if you count in the 3 add-ons from his state, Joe Andrew, and Texas superdelegate, John Patrick, nets 5. 5:3 today.
As a resident of New York State, I can only tell you that this is such a personal endorsement and not at all based on the senator she has been or what she has done for the state.  She has done absolutely nothing.  In fact since she has been  our senator we have lost jobs, not gained any as she promised.  She used the people of this state as a stepping stone for her own political ambitions.  Those of you who write how happy you are and how you support her, you should know her and what she is really like, then you would certainly change.  You are living with blinders on.  
For some reason people are just afraid of the Clintons.  What a great way to have to live.  The Clintons are vicious and manipulating.
A bunch of supers from New York aligned with Hillary when she first announced her presidency.  She is getting close to the bottom of her well of delegates. As supers hear about the Magnequench lie in Indiana and the Paul v Clinton fraud case, more will be moving toward Obama.  Bank on it.
I am getting depressed about how everything will remain the same as it is today if Hillary somehow steals the nomination. She is so devisive and polarizing that we will be fighting for the next four years. If you notice, she is more of a lunatic than a fighter. Every plan starts out with her getting tough with someone. We are going to obliviate Iran; we are going to get tough with the oil companies. What is it about her that she can't work with anyone?

She has set integration back 25 years through her race-baiting. By interjecting religion into the race (I don't know if Obama is a Muslim), do you think Muslims now trust her? Actually that isn't important as nobody trusts her. And with good cause.

You staunch Hillary supporters just don't recognize how much she is hurting the Democratic Party with all her devious machinations. She is McCain's biggest supporter.
I truly feel sorry for all you Hillbots. I guess I might be feeling just as desparate if Senator Obama was losing. I do hope that, ultimately (once the effect of the kool-aide has worn off), you will do the right thing and vote for Senator Obama so we don't have another 4 years of Bush.
I would like to see Obama's voting record in the US Senate.  I heard Dick Army said: Obama never interduced nor passed a bill nor an ammendment in the Senate.  Unbelieveable! Want to see his voting record.


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