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Hillary: Obama is out of touch

Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:45 AM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
INDIANAPOLIS -- Days before the primary in Indiana and North Carolina, Hillary Clinton’s argument has become increasingly clearer -- that she thinks Barack Obama is out of touch with the concerns of ordinary voters.

Clinton returned to the Hoosier State last night for an outdoor rally featuring John Mellencamp, whose small-town lyrics have become omnipresent at her rallies. Speaking to thousands, she again touted her plan for a gas tax holiday paid for by a windfall oil profits tax, saying she wants to “see us finally stand up and fight for you and fight against the oil companies.”

“Now, my opponent doesn’t agree with me,” she said. “He doesn’t think that the oil companies should pay the tax, he thinks that you should pay the tax. Well, I’m sorry, I think that’s just one more indication that he’s not understanding what’s going on in so many people’s lives.”

She extended that criticism to the home foreclosure crisis and health care, saying she first proposed taking action on the former, and that his plan on the latter is inadequate because not everyone is covered.

“I think you have to decide for this election on Tuesday who’s on your side and who you can count on to stand up for you and to work for you and to fight for you,” she said.

The rally had some light moments as it began, when former President Bill Clinton was late for his scheduled introduction by Sen. Evan Bayh. Trying to fill time, Bayh decided to introduce Sen. Clinton, and began alluding to a comment from a union leader earlier this week who said Clinton had the “testicular fortitude” to be commander in chief.

“Any of you see what he said? Our candidate is the one in the race …” he began, when Clinton shushed him. “She didn’t want me to go there, OK, I won’t.”

He then made way for Clinton, before her husband belatedly worked his way on stage.

“C’mon Bill!” she said. “C’mon up and take a look at this great crowd. Evan was actually introducing you and then we were sort of stalling until you got here.”

The former president spoke only briefly, saying he’s visited 39 communities in Indiana, six that day.

“And they’re all going for Hillary on Tuesday!” he said.

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Hillary, please explain specificlly how YOU can provide us relief when you won't be president by this summer?  
Who's out of touch with families?  At least Obama has a real family without philandering, estrangement, and embarassment.

Who grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth?

Who doesn't know how to use a convenience store coffee machine?

Who thinks that she can buy your vote for $30?

Who thinks that her lies will convince you to vote for her?

Who thinks that a shot and a beer involves Crown Royal?

Who goes to sleep each night sick of her pretense of being ordinary?
"I think that’s just one more indication that he’s not understanding what’s going on in so many people’s lives."

Let me correct that for you Hillary.  It should be:

"I think that's just one more indication that I don't understand economics."
If Barack Obama truly wanted to bring the political discussion back to the critical issues facing America, why did he not take up the challenge from Hillary Clinton to a face-to-face debate, without press moderators, before the Indiana and North Carolina primaries?  Hitting the basketball court to shoot hoops, taking the family on a picnic, and having what amounted to a one-hour free ad on Meet the Press are hardly impressive.  Hillary Clinton’s gasoline/energy policies are very complex.  It would have been more informative and fair for voters to hear both sides of this debate from both candidates instead of Tim Russert’s simplistic, questioning response, “It’s a pander?” and Barack Obama’s easy reply, “Yes.”  Instead of debating his opponent face-to-face and demonstrating his leadership and experience, he fled to take cover. Instead of Barack and Hillary with no moderator, we got Barack and Tim with no Hillary.
Hillary "Republican" Clinton is out of touch with reality so she has little room to speak of Obama being out of touch with anyone.  Just more putrid garbage from a losing campaign as she has become Mccain's best ally.

Go Obama!
What a hallucination!
I just saw Obama on meet the press and now I understand why he calls this gas tax plan a gimic... to save 30 cents a day for a grand total of $28 for the entire summer is Pathetic.... And on top of that Obama said that this gas tax could not happen this summer "2008" because Bush would never sign the bill which makes sense to me.....

So this is the biggest pandering blunder ever commited... McWarllary is realy lieing to the american people once again, Washington politics as usuall....

Give it up Mcwarllary your busted!!! Obama is telling people about your pandering ways...
Dear Fellow Americans,

Our Great-grand Nation, the United States of America
is and will face very critical "Challenges" in coming,
months, years, and decades.  It is very essential that
we pick out next President on following criteria.


1. A candidate with "Vision and Statesmanship".

2. A candidate with " Stable Character and Morality" .

3. A candidate with "Presidential Temperament" and  
"sound Judgment".

4. A candidate with "little Washington exposure"  and
"connectedness with New voters".

5. A candidate who "Inspires us up" rather  than
"Tears
us down".

In my professional opinion there is only one candidate
left, who bears all the above qualities aand that is
Honorable Senator Obama.

As an independent registered voter since 1974. I voted
for Carter, voted for Reagan, voted for First  Bush,
and second Bush in 2000. In the process last interest
and stopped voting.

This time we can not afford to stay on side lines and
let Washington stay the same.

We can not afford our Greatgreat Nation to become less
than what we are  and can be.

We need to send clear and candid message to the world
and some 24 hour partisan hateful media. These media
outlets are trying to deprive, dupe, and derail us
from getting it right this time.

They are trying there best to deny us better rather
than bitter future. { Our Greatgrand Nations people
are
persistently and constantly subjected to Psychological
terrorism" thru these hatful partisan media outlets.

We Americans are not going to allow them
psychologically terrorized us and silence the masses.
I am sure that we will get it right this
time and elect Senator Obama our next President. let
us not get dragged down into racism and sexism.

Let us remember that our Greatgrand is constituted of
family, fellowships, friends, faith, funds, fun,
future with fairness and freedom and without fear or
favor.

We can not afford to lose any of above. Let us stand
up, be counted, save, build our Greatgrand Nation for
centuries to come.

God Bless our Great grandNation, its diverse people.

Our future needs stability, security, safety,
sustained progress and restoration of our due status
in this perilous Global World at all levels.

yours truly,

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall
Forensic Psychiatrist.
Disables American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.

Clinton can't win on the real issues so she creates a smoke screen pander that is so obvious only low information voters would fall for it. Unfortunately most of the mass media refuses to publish the real facts about the gas tax holiday pander for example.

Clinton now seems to be running on a platform of  consisting of an argument that she can pander the best to voters with no understanding of the issues beyond sound bites.
How come Hillary the experienced expert is so disdainful of the experienced experts suddenly??????
Hillary Clinton is the big phony in this race.  What did she and Bill do in the 90's to bring us energy independence?  They were too busy pushing NAFTA through Congress. Barack Obama is correct.  A temporary fix is not the solution.  It is just more of the same.  You have to wonder whenever Washington politicians like Hillary and John McCain speak the same language.  These insiders do not offer solutions...only bandaids on serious problems.  Funny...John McCain is offended by pork barrel spending but not by extreme oil company profits. If you like the way Washington does business now...you will love 4 or 8 years of Clinton II or McCain.  Obama shows courage in opposing the politically expedient answers. Americans have had enough! For that reason and more, Barack will be the nominee of the Democratic party in 2008 and our 44th President.  We need a leader who will seriously tackle the issues...not do the popular quick fix thing.
I think Barack Obama understands that the $20 we might see from this gas tax holiday won't do much for us overall. It's not even enough for a family dinner or a night out at the movies. It won't even pay for a full tank of gas and it sure won't pay to repair my axle when that big pothole on Route 6 doesn't get fixed this summer.
Aperson that has not pumped or personally paid for gasin over 20 years . A person that pimped her daughter out to the gay crowd in Philly so that a gay lady grabbed her butt. A person that has no clue how us little people fix coffee. A person that has made almost $130 MILLION DOLLARS FROM SO VERY QUESTIONABLE SOURCES. A person who's husband has to be kept on a very tight leash to prevent him for stumbling into the wrong Cigar Shop again.The wife of the same person that is responcible for selling off bits and pieces of Americas manufactoring jobs to the highest bidder NAFTA and working at it again for CAFTA. To The tune of $800 hundred thousand . The same person that had to go get a Shell Oil lobbyist to support her and McSames' gas tax holiday. My god this woman is so removed from the truth and reality that I want to cringe every time one of these free ad campaigns are posted in here for her. Since her pandering comments are meant for the child like behaviour in us here is my child like response.LIAR LIAR Pantsuit on Fire!!!!!!!! Early on in the McClinton campaign I thought how sweet Chelsea campaigning for he mom , but after seeing her watch her mother lie about Bosniaseiing her go to Philly to be pinched by a filly.Seeing her photo opt for the camera whereever possible,it is getting real old. The free ride that the media has gventhem as a whole to the Clintons while trying to derail Senator Obama is deplorible.
Obama's out of touch????

Hillary hasn't pumped gas or bought groceries in how many DECADES??
Democrats can never back a losing horse.
Please pencil in May 20th, Thats the day Obama gets the pledged delegate majority and is officially CLINCHO DE MAYO( When he clinches the democratic nomination, and Hillary is officially hurting the democratic party)

When are you going to release your 2007 tax returns?  Who gave to the Clinton Foundation?

How many reservations have you already pre-sold for a night in the Lincoln bedroom?

If we fail to learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it...  never forget.
Pander, Pander, Lies, Lies and the sad thing is the main stream media backs her.
WHAT IN THE HELL DOES SHE KNOW.  B&*&% haven't pumped gas since her college years (if then).  What DUMB ASS IS GONNA FALL FOR THIS B.S. AGAIN.  

This 'First Read' is just another signe that MSNBC, Chuch Todd and his crew are paid for and bought by the RNC/CLINTON CAMP...THIS IS A DAMN SHAME!
Tom Hanks’ videotaped endorsement of Obama (obviously home-made!)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.indiv idual&videoid=33546997

S oshe wants to tax the bill oil companies?  WHEN? while Mr. Veto is still in Office?  Let's ... she wants to give the gas holiday when?  This summer?   And somehow in the so-called "do nothing" congress she will help pass a law that taxes someone else?  Just because the tax holiday was McCain's suggestion (can't people remember that?) does it mean the Republicans themselves will support it? Especially with the "poison pill" add-on that says to tax Cheney's buddies?  

Will someone ANYONE of the Clinton folks PLEASE try to make sense of this because so far you have no intellectuals or elites or anyone else with any experience in REAL LAW and REAL ECONOMICS say anything good about it beyond "The people, who are stupid (*yes that is what they are saying) will like it cause they can't see past their noses ...

Let's see a real response ... if they can resist the urge to change the topic ... anyone? Beuller?  Beuller?  

I know math sucks but come one ... 20 cents a gallon saved ... times your 20 gallon tank .. that's 4 dollars! tank fill up once a week ... let'smake it twice ... that's 8 dollars a week saved ... 8 dollars times 4 weeks ... that's 24 dollars ... a lot of money right?  Assumes you are driving a lot like the people she says are really affected as opposed to the "average" ... ok ... wait ... you saved 24 in a month Wooo weee ... you had just paid at $3.50 a gallon $560!!! that's more than rent for a lot of people! How the heck could you afford that to male a $24 savings have an impact?  $24 are 6 happy meals!  

Ooo ... Math really sucks now!  Stop with these numbers because ignorance is indeed bliss since thinking I have been given something for nothing is better that to realize it has no effect and is actually bad and surely if I dont think about it perhaps the same person who gave me this free stuff will not put us in another war to drain billions away from us ... no, that wont happen right? if i don't think about it?  Just a little?  thinking?  wow, like math that must suck too ...

Enough folks ...  
What would possibly keep the oil companies from driving up the cost of gas to make up their losses to the higher taxes, especially given the reduction in gas tax? They'd take the federal highways' share immediately, and raise prices beyond that - claiming that the windfall profits tax forced them to.

Two more things about it -

1. It won't pass in the 20 days left before Memorial Day, and couldn't under the rosiest of scenarios - even if it had support from more than two Senators who haven't been around the Senate for a year. And, it won't pass without George Bush favoring it ... how does he feel about a windfall profits tax on oil?

2. Pass the windfall profits tax anyway, but use the revenue to lead development of alternative fuels.
Well, read this:
From the Charlotte Observer
North Carolina's biggest paper backs Obama for his potential to restore decency to politics, and for a list of reasons it doesn't like Hillary:

[W]e're troubled by, to cite a few examples, these aspects of her presidential campaign:

• Many of her supporters seem intent on depicting Sen. Obama as the Jesse Jackson of 2008, a leader who appeals to an ethnic minority but not to the broader electorate needed to win.

• She sometimes exaggerates her influence and experiences, as when she claimed she "helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland" and said she ducked under sniper fire in Bosnia.

• Florida and Michigan were stripped of national convention delegates after breaking party rules by scheduling their primaries too early. The candidates didn't campaign in them. Yet after Sen. Clinton did well in those states, she pushed to change the rules and count the votes. That's a cynical, self-serving effort to corrupt the selection process.

• Her tendency to tell voters what they want to hear is disturbing. Her proposal to suspend the federal tax on gasoline this summer is campaign gimmickry, not leadership. Her assertion that she was a critic of NAFTA from the beginning is simply unbelievable. The record shows she was an ardent advocate of the trade deal.


Hillary denied on THIS WEEK that the Magnequench deal only kept jobs in Iniana for 10 years.  That is a direct lie.  God hope the media follows up..... It is an important issue.

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First Read,

Why are you giving us Hillary's talking points, full blown?

Why did'nt you give the last portion of Obama's speech, about his family, and patriotism, that he made at the fundraiser dinner in NC on Friday night? On the contrary, you gave us Hillary's filthy 'ivory tower' garbage.

If Hillary has no money for ads, that's her own financially mismanaged, wasteful fault. It is not your place, as journalist to campaign for her within your so-called articles of plitical news, and analyzation.

Even if you consider the Clinton's bait, and switch, divisive, and untruthful rally featured above news, you failed to put it into any context which would pass as analysis.

You need to do better. Be fair.
Vote for Hillary, she's the best.
That's a hard fact, Senator Obama is out of touch with the working class.  Far left wing liberals usually are!!  

That's why he fit in so well with those upper class donors in Calif...so well, that he slipped up and ended up going on the record about his TRUE feelings!!

I still wonder how much voter remorse there is in those states that voted prior to Senator Obama being vetted?  
Hillary is out of touch.  Obama has the ability to deliver on his word and I believe he will.  Hillary will say or do anything at this point.  I hope Indiana and North Carolina families will vote for Obama.  He has taken the hits from the media and Hillary on non-issues.  Hillary can't explain why she would think that getting rid of taxes on gas for three months will help.  All it would do is put the money in the pockets of the oil companies.  She hired a lobbiest from Shell to say it was a good idea.  This is not the type of leadership I want.  She is just more of the same.
Is this the SAME Hillary Clinton who DEPOSITED 800,000 in her joint bank account from Her Husband trying to pass the Columbian Free Trade Deal?

Is this the SAME Hillary Clinton who said that people who participate in caucuses, "DON'T REPRESENT THE ELECTORATE?"

Is this the SAME Hillary Clinton who is now PANDERING to Indiana and North Carolina voters with this STUPID GAS TAX HOLIDAY?

Is this the SAME Hillary Clinton who is being sued for Campaign Fraud in California?  Peter Paul v. Clinton.

Is this the SAME Hillary Clinton who has more unsavory cohorts connected to her than Al Capone?
This is a ridiculous statement. She has such a great family, her poor daughter is constantly being asked about her fathers girlfriends, Hillary is not someone who should talk about this. She in no way knows what it is like being just a regular family living on a regular income. I get annoyed with her for even pretending to know what it feels like to not have millions in the bank. Once again Hillary you lie!!!
To a person who has to decide between food, meds or groceries... $30-$70 can ease the burden of at least one of those items.  People on this message board are obviously children who have no responsibilities or elitist who don't have these problems.  

Furthermore, I think it's wonderful that Clinton is taking a stand to fight oil companies (unlike wimpy Obama).  Of course it won't happen this summer... However, big oil needs to be put on notice that their windfall profits are a thing of the past and won't be tolerated anylonger!
How ca she even make that statement after the embarressment her family expeirienced while they were in office, what Obama is telling poeple about the gas tax holiday is the truth.  She has lied over and over again to win at all costs.  At least he lives with a loving family that shows him and michelle are truly concerned about our country.  On the other hand the Clintons need to pay back their campaign 15 million dollars in debt why do you think she wants the whitehouse so much, besides paying for the trial lawyer and not even being in office the first year, she will owe so many people money.  Go ahead teachers union endorse her.  I bet you don't ever see a raise for going above and beyond.  Campaign fraud in 2004 is a major law breaker.  Indiana and North Carolina pleae vote for Obama we don't have time to spend in court and the phrase Obama uses is the fierce urgencey of now.  Listen to him he's right.  Bet you Clinton first read writers won't post this  either as I mentioned the trial she will be going through.  That't ok I have a phone.
Ralph in Chicago is quite correct. There's no chance either McCain or Hillary's proposals would make it through the Senate, let alone the House or the Shrub. Pelosi's against it, the Shrub's against it. The Dems would shut McCain down either directly or put an amendment in to add the windfall tax, while the GOP would put an amendment to strip the windfall tax from Hillary's version. And in the end, McCain loses on party lines at best, and Hilary loses worse because Obama would show up and put a statement in, and his supporters would vote against it as well, along with the GOP.

Not to mention that today is May 4. May 26 is Memorial Day, the start of the holiday period they want. There's no chance they'd railroad that through the Senate, especially with the Iraq supplemental sitting there to come up this week or next. That doesn't even mention the GOP forcing 60-vote margins just to proceed to debate a bill, then forcing another vote to close debate on a bill, and making them take the full 30 hours of debate in each case...even if in the end the GOP votes for it.

Hillary's problem is this. She's playing a game for superdelegates, because she can't take the pledged delegate lead. Her best argument for supers is the popular vote lead, which she can't take without a variety of convoluted metrics. But by throwing out this gas tax holiday argument, I think she's showing those supers that she doesn't know what she's doing and isn't paying attention to experts, and thus is hurting herself. Because two others against her proposal? The governor of NC and some former president named Clinton. She's on a ledge and her only company is the GOP nominee...not a good place to be.
Better yet give keith oberman some of these posts, he's not afraid to tell the american people the truth.
This a woman who has an elite education, hasn't pumped gas, made coffee or paid a bill in years, makes $109 MILLION a year and yet tries to pass herself off as one of the working folk?? Looking at her campaign ads it seems to me it's just subtle racism "I am LIKE YOU. REALLY like you. NOT like the OTHER GUY", wink wink. It's the PT Barnum campaign...she hopes there is a sucker voter born every minute. It makes me sad.


And yes, I do note a pro Hillary tone in the FirstRead..or at least it seems a lot more anti-Obama. Just my two cents.
Obama out of touch with families? Last time I checked, he has a family. And he knows how to pump his own gas. The folks of Indiana know better. People are smart. They see right through this gas tax crapola. You may be a Clinton, Hillary, but that doesn't mean people by your pandering. Is this how you plan to run the White House, too? False carrots on sticks?
Out of touch with families...She's been out of touch with her own family for years...
Blind ambition let the flock go astray.. That experience is not good for the country...
Hillary talks about Chelsea like some after thought.
Children are our future...sending the wrong message to them imbalances our future..
When will people stop to think this gas tax holiday through.  Summer unofficially starts in a few weeks and we will not have a new president until January 2009.  Will somebody tell me how enabling legislation can get passed and signed into law in time for this to take place.  And how in the world is Senator Clinton going to get windfall profits tax on the oil companies to pass.  Does she honestly think that the current president would sign such a bill, if one even gets through Congress.  Republicans in Congress are not going to pass this.  Who does she think we are that we will believe that she can get this accomplished.  Come on people, think with your heads and stop believing everything she tells you.  
I will never, ever, ever vote for Obama. He has poor judgement, no experience, no clue and talks loftily of "hope and change" without anything concrete other than revised versions of what Hillary has said for alot longer. Kind of like watching that "popular" kid in calss keep looking over your shoulder during a test and then look indignant when you call him on it. Ugh. leader of the free world? I wouldn't vote for him for President of my homeowner's association. New politics? Let me see, do one thing, say another until you are called on it, then first deny, then explain, then try to say it's your opponent's fault. New politics, yes right. Same old same old in a new package. Whoopdeedoo.
There's a reason that Obama does better with those with a college education and those who are college age, and it's nothing demeaning. Typically those 2 groups have better access to cable news and the internet and have the ability to do research for themselves. Typically the older or less well-off will get their information from the 30 second sounds bites they hear on their local news every night. If people don't get the opportunity to hear the whole story on something how can we expect them to make educated voting decisions.

This is our chance everyone. If you know anyone in IN at all give them a call in the next 2 days. Fill them in, let them know what they've been missing.
Explain to them that her supporters agree the gas holiday is a bad idea.
Explain to them when asked this morning to name a credible economist who agress with her she couldn't and instead replied "I'm not going to put my lot in with economists."
Explain to them her staff has come out and said that the President doesn't have to listen to experts when making a decision.
Explain to them the lie she has been telling about the Magnequench plant in IN.

Is this really who you want to lead the country? Hasn't this type of person been leading the country the last 7 years? How's that worked out for us.

All it takes is a phone call or 2 and we can make a difference. It's your choice America.
Not only is Obama out of touch with families, he is out of touch with the proper defense of this country. See for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_N1rqVo2W0

This man is a liability to the safeguarding of our fine nation. Please -- PLEASE -- educate yourself beyond the "Hope/Change" mantras.

The Titanic which is Obama poses a much greater dilemma than one just for the Democratic Party. All Americans must reject this radical, Harvard Law product before we suffer the disastrous consequences.

Paul F. Villarreal
Hillary has always been and always will be out of touch.  She cannot pump gas, she does not even know how to get a cup a coffeee from a machine!  Again she feels she is above everyone and doop Americans with her lies and fake commitments.  Has anyone else picked up on the fake southern drawl she is now using in North Carolina? Next she will say she had a Grandmother there that raised her on a farm.
Why isn't the media discussing the lawsuit against her and her idiot husband for money fraud?
C'mon Americans wake up do not let her insult our intelligence any more.
We have a chance to come together, take a stand and change this old story of believe that and i will tell you another one!
Indianna & North Carolina YOU have the opportunity to say goodbye to her now!
Vote OBAMA now and he will win against MCCAIN as well!!!
There's a reason that Obama does better with those with a college education and those who are college age, and it's nothing demeaning. Typically those 2 groups have better access to cable news and the internet and have the ability to do research for themselves. Typically the older or less well-off will get their information from the 30 second sounds bites they hear on their local news every night. If people don't get the opportunity to hear the whole story on something how can we expect them to make educated voting decisions.

This is our chance everyone. If you know anyone in IN at all give them a call in the next 2 days. Fill them in, let them know what they've been missing.
Explain to them that her supporters agree the gas holiday is a bad idea.
Explain to them when asked this morning to name a credible economist who agress with her she couldn't and instead replied "I'm not going to put my lot in with economists."
Explain to them her staff has come out and said that the President doesn't have to listen to experts when making a decision.
Explain to them the lie she has been telling about the Magnequench plant in IN.

Is this really who you want to lead the country? Hasn't this type of person been leading the country the last 7 years? How's that worked out for us.

All it takes is a phone call or 2 and we can make a difference. It's your choice America.
I'm beginning to be VERY grateful that there are superdelegates to see through the Clinton's CRAP.  I'm sorry but I have had it.

On the backs of these good kind hardworking people, they will buy the Presidency from them for thirty cents a day.  The Presidency comes pretty cheap these days, I guess.

I want a candidate who will tell truth to our power, who will not sell out this country for thirty cents a day, only to cost our children umpteen times that in a few years.

Holy Cow, have we really come to that...now we need those superdelegates to end this absolute insanity.  The superdelegates in their collective judgment is looking pretty good to me now.

from today's Charlotte Observer in endorsing Obama,

"Early in the campaign, Sen. Obama said, "We want a politics that reflects our best values. We want a politics that reflects our core decency, a politics that is based on a simple premise that we stand and fall together."

Yes, we do."

and YES WE CAN!
Subject: Clinton Conflicts of Interest are many , it would seem that An Agenda is more for Personal benefit than Public benefit


Subject: who needs a Pardon on day one ........Obama is getting bashed over an association issue , which he has denounced , while this Clinton & Company Conflict goes under the radar , and I would say that this doesn't pass the smell test , given the record of the Clintons


http://www.paulvclinton.com/FEC_complaint_123107.pdf

http://www.paulvclinton.com/060817_second_amended_complaint.swf

FEC Complaint:   http://www.paulvclinton.com/FEC_complaint_123107.pdf

 www.truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-pastor-has-represented-us-well.html

What a Story! Candidate Personally Receives Hundreds of Thousands From Foreign Sources, Private Interests
www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/what-a-story-candidate-pe_b_96052.html


Huge Kazakh deal follows financier's trip with Clinton, precedes donation .
 www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?ex=1359435600&en=33a4d96a239655bf&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
its really a shame when hillary is still in the race because of low educated people and women for women in the white house. im low educated white male 62 and still wise enough to see throught this illusional package of lies this woman spreads. fear of the unknown is the only thing hillary counts on to win a few votes. come on you women voters i to would love to see a woman or black in the white house but we need the best person avalibe to represent us for the next four years. also at last check i believe obama is half white also. so get over the black person bit and back the best person that will help us in the long run. some one who will fight for you and i and not for some on that can be bought by any high bidding ceo or company.
go obama
To Carol, CA

Ask the great people of NY, Hillary screwed, about buyer's remorse.  She makes promises she doesn't even try to keep.  She promised western NY hundreds of thousands of jobs - they've lost many thousands.
Why is msnbc campaigning for Hillary Clinton?  I have never seen so much bias in my life!  Seriously folks, fair and balanced? You used to do a good job, now there seems to be a push to get Hilliary in the White House.  We honest to heavens don't need another Clinton in the whitehouse using lies, lies, lies.
Perhaps I am being silly here, but who here support John McCain?

Anyone?

Going once...

Fine.

So, rather than trying to find the most effective way to put down Hilary (she doesn't have a normal family because her husband cheats and her daughter overachieves. Well, anyone seen the divorce rate or the growth in women attending Law and Med school? Husbands (and wives) cheat and their children fight their way to the top. Her family outline seems pretty darn normal to me) or the best way to put down Barak (out of touch. Well, yes, all three of the candidates are millionaires. I don't care what their personal net worth is if they support the policies I support).

How about we distinguish how they will beat John McCain, because right now he's the lumbering turtle in this rabbit race and to be effective in November both candidates must finds ways to distinguish themselves by beating *him* down.

Clinton doesn't want to spend 100 years in Iraq.

Obama doesn't want to overturn Roe V Wade and bring coat-hangers into the bathrooms of our daughters, mothers and wives.

McCain is the real enemy, I am cool with passionate debate but I know come November, I will vote for *anyone* rather than John McCain.

Both candidates do it for me.
Before casting their votes next Tuesday,perhaps Indiana blue collars ought to watch this. This is worse than any other story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7RZLX8T8eE&feature=related
Sounds like the three stooges are back in town...
except Hillary can't stay on her words...she has to plug away at Obama...sad sad song of silly politics.
Righteous indignation erupts from this "testicular fortitude" persona...


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