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Senate reality check on gas tax plans

Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:56 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Ken Strickland
Clinton's and McCain's separate proposals for suspending the gas tax this summer will very likely run out of gas shortly after hitting the Senate floor later this month. Because it takes 60 votes to pass any controversial bill in the Senate, McCain and Clinton will easily fall short. Democrats would loath to support virtually any proposal from the presumptive Republican nominee, and support for Clinton's measure is lukewarm among her own Democratic colleagues.

When Democratic leaders unveil their energy/gas price legislation later this week, Clinton's provision is NOT expected to be part of it. Why? Since Obama is against the Clinton plan, leadership doesn't want play favorites. Instead, Clinton will likely get a chance to offer her proposal as an amendment. Equally notable is the divide among Senate Democrats -- and the leadership itself -- over whether suspending the tax makes economic sense. A perfect example is Sen. Patty Murray, a Senate leader and Clinton supporter, but who opposes the gas-tax holiday. 

As for McCain's plan, GOP leaders didn't include it in their energy bill when they introduced it last week, saying instead it focuses is on oil production. But even if all 49 GOP senators faithfully lined up behind McCain to support it, they'd need more than a handful of wayward Democrats to reach what would likely be the 60 vote threshold for passage.

Then there's the windfall profit tax idea, which Clinton and Obama both support. Well, it's is running on fumes, too. The last time a similar measure came up in November 2005, it couldn't even draw in 40 Democratic votes. While gas prices have increased dramatically since then, you'd be hard pressed to find 20 Republicans who'd vote with Clinton and Obama on almost anything.

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the reality is that it is very insincere for Clinton to use tax holiday to win votes.
I think Sen. Obama is in favor of another tax rebate of $1,000 moreso than the windfall profit tax idea, but whatever he proposes, we know it's in the best interests of the American people, unlike someone else we know.


OBAMA, 2008!
Clinton has proven over and over that she is willing to say and do anything for the nomination . . . there is no truth to anything she says

The fact that she continues to pump a plan with zero support and no possibility of being passed only serves to exemplify what we all knew all along

Clinton = politcs as usual
Equally notable is the divide among Senate Democrats -- and the leadership itself -- over whether suspending the tax makes economic sense. A perfect example is Sen. Patty Murray, a Senate leader and Clinton supporter, but who opposes the gas-tax holiday.  
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There you have it Hillary. Niether your party,  (well,sort of), nor one of your own supporters in the Senate will back that glue pot nag of an idea you are try'in to ride to a win in tommorow's primary.  

Buckaroo Billary has been thrown! YEEEEHAAAAA!!!
This means nothing to Clinton.  She's shown she's not above telling tales to the audience and letting the media play catch-up with the truth later.  

She'll either tell folks she did get it passed, or she'll concoct some tall tale about it being torpedoed by an Oil-Company Conspiracy.  Something involving corkscrew landings and sniper fire I imagine.

I'll just wait for the movie...
IN & NC she's counting on you to fall for this dead in the water scam.  Just say NO!  This is a preview of the support she'll have for all of her policies--vote your head and your heart.
The editing on these entries is never very thorough.  Please consider using an editor for First Read.  I notice simple errors every day.
Everyone know that Clinton is a pathological liar . . .

What everyone doesn't know is that the Clinton campaign has falsely convinced the lazy major syndicated media that Obama's support among whites is slipping . . . the FACTS do not back that up:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-giordano/operation-anti-chaos-the_b_99965.html

Obama has won the states that his demographics favor and Clinton has won the states that her demographics favor (the same demographic that will desert the Dems for the Republicans in November anyway, by the way)

LEARN THE FACTS. THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!
I have heard that Clinton never actually submitted legislation to implement the gas tax proposal she has been touting on the stump.  Reporters should verify.
Clinton is out of gas and out of ideas.  The gas tax holiday idea is old and it's already been proven ineffective.  The oil companies take the profits.  Hillary should just give it up.
Hillary offers ideas, Obama offers criticism. Hillary is positive, Obama is negative. I know who I'm voting for tomorrow.
GO AWAY Hillary.  You are a panderer extraordanaire!
I think Sen. Obama is in favor of another tax rebate of $1,000 moreso than the windfall profit tax idea, but whatever he proposes, we know it's in the best interests of the American people, unlike someone else we know.


OBAMA, 2008!
KJ, Dallas, TX (Sent Monday, May 05, 2008 5:07 PM)

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I wonder if this person knows how naive they sound...one things for sure posts like this let us know how naive they truly are....
This is what I have been saying in all my blog posts all freekin week!  JEEZ!  Someone tell Joe Scarborough!  Wake him up!  This is why it is a pander!  She is going to say "Well at least I tried and he didn't"  ... well DUH!!! And here for the next Clintonite to avoid the topic and mention his pastor I am telling you in advance you are the slime of America's democratic underbelly ... we have to live with you but could you please take your stink to the back of the boat?  So far NO Clintonite has come up with a good reason for the tax ... NONE ... all the blogs ... NONE ... all the comments ... NONE.  One at least tried saying "I need the money" ... it was not a good reason because it ignored ALL the facts but at least they tried ... and looked really "smart" to the rest of the world in doing it .. .

ARGH already :)
If you're trying to buy my vote, just send me the $30 directly.  
Democrats hate working class Americans. They'd rather lie about big evil oil and have "victims" than let us drill here at home. :-)
This one's for Indiana and North Carolina! C'mon and raise up
Take your shirt off, twist it 'round yo' hand
Spin it like a helicopter
Indiana and North Carolina! C'mon and raise up
This one's for you, uh-huh, this one's for who?

President Barack Obama!

Put this Hillary beast to bed once and for all. Enough is enough!
This just out from Politico...Hillary is going to break OPEC? Everybody get you freakin wallet out and be sure to keep water in your car for the gasoline line.  1970's anyone?

Politico Story:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Clinton_OPEC_can_no_longer_be_a_cartel.html

"Clinton's attacks on oil prices as artificially inflated, Enron-style, keep escalating, and today she appeared to threaten to break up the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

"We’re going to go right at OPEC," she said. "They can no longer be a cartel, a monopoly that get to gether once every couple of months" at a hotel in "some plush place in the world" to set prices, she told a crowd a volunteer fire house in Merillville.

It's a potent message, like the attack on "Wall Street money grubbers," with deep roots in American politics. It's also very hard to figure out what exactly she means by the threat to break OPEC.
Obama want to raise everyone's taxes to pay for all of his grand plans...
Gee the facts speak for themselves.  Of course IF she was President it would of passed.  Truth be told Hillary you are not so your Shell game is nothing but vapors.
Ruff Ruff, gimme my doggie treat, us poor small town folk need it.  

For Hillary, well, like she said on O'Reilly "God Bless Us Rich people, we deserve ...."
hil '08! she can win! yes she can!
While I do favor Obama, I don't favor the gas tax break, as I didn't favor the stimulus package that is now being distributed. I do favor a balanced budget so we didn't have to take the country in debt which always puts us in a bad position.


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