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McCain: Is the fun over?

Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:27 AM by Domenico Montanaro

Conservative writer Jennifer Rubin makes this point: “[B]efore Republicans get excited about the possibilty of vicious infighting that will torment Democrats, those Republicans should keep in mind two things. First, eventually there will be a nominee (whether May or June or August) and a final night of the convention where everyone will raise hands together and declare undying loyalty. Most of those Clinton supporters, especially ones committed enough to vote in a primary, will vote Democratic in November. And there are a lot more registered Democrats than there used to be.”

“Second, Obama is a fast learner. His speech last night included a heavy dose of heartfelt appreciation for America, reverence for the land of opportunity and lots of empathy for working class voters. Like a vacuum cleaner, he is sucking up the Clintonian message to blue collar voters and absorbing the rhetoric which has successfully lured a coalition of working class whites, seniors and women. Don’t expect any more Snobgate slip-ups. In short, the fun for conservatives is at an end.”

The New York Times on McCain’s speech on the judiciary yesterday: “Senator John McCain reached out to conservatives on Tuesday by vowing to appoint judges he characterized as strictly faithful to the Constitution and who did not engage in what Mr. McCain condemned as ‘the common and systemic abuse of our federal courts.’” More: “Mr. McCain’s speech was a clear embrace of the judicial philosophy of President Bush and other recent Republican presidents who sought judges who generally construed laws as narrowly as possible, who for the most part favored government authority in criminal matters and who were opposed to the expansion of abortion rights.”

Per the Washington Post, McCain said “that Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. ‘would serve as the model for my own nominees, if that responsibility falls to me,’ highlighting the gap between Republicans and Democrats on the question of who should sit on the Supreme Court. Both justices have established strong conservative records since Bush appointed them, and the appointment of one more conservative to the nation's highest court could tip the balance on issues such as abortion, discrimination, civil liberties and private property.” 

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Who is this "John McCain" I keep hearing about? What happened to Huckabee? lol

Memo to John McSame and "Barbie":

Like the warning on the side mirror of your car says, "Objects in the rear view mirror are closer than they appear!"

I think you hear us knocking and the Democrats will not be denied!
Clinton had a chance last night in her "victory" speech to heal the party and save the Clinton's legacy.

I am very disappointed in Clinton and I think the American people are disappointed.

What we witnessed last night was the death of the old politics of pander, deception and divisiveness in the Democratic party. A sad spectacle of the end of the hypocritical politics that has controlled the Democratic party for decades.

Next stop McCain and the Republican party.


McCain, yeech!  Was it ever fun?

Just as Clinton runs to the right and we don't know what she stands for...so it is also with McCain, he has more positions than my children have toys they don't pick up (a lot for those of you without young children).

And his position on judges may galvanize some Republicans but it will cost him more votes than he gains...his Waterloo??
MCCAIN: IS THE FUN OVER?

Given his cranky disposition, even while he's had a relative pass for weeks, I'd say that's a big YES!!!
"The appointment of one more conservative to the nation's highest court could tip the balance on issues such as abortion, discrimination, civil liberties and private property.”

HRC supporters who threaten to vote McCain in the fall need to read this sentence over and over and over. The stakes are too high to hold grudges.

Let the healing begin.
Hey Chuck,

Could you please update us on the mood or actions of the undeclared supers? Is there going to be a large movement for Senator Obama today? Or will it take a couple of days for them to break? Or, will everyone keep their powder dry until May 20?

Great coverage by the MSNBC team last night.

Maybe I can start watching "Sleazeball" again and hopefully your network has plans for a new morning show. I don't like having to wait until 8pm to turn on MSNBC. Keith Rocks!

Congratulations to Senator Obama!
I invite all of Senator Clinton's supporters to join our movement. Let's unite as one and take our country back. We need you to defeat Senator McSame. Come on over, you will love it.

Go Obama!
Run as fast and as hard as you can..McShame
Chicago Politics is a comin' after you now...
I want to comment on the criticism of the media and I go clear back to the Walter Cronkite days.  Then, it was super professional.  All newscasters took great pains to give just the bare facts and show no bias.  There was a great deal of dignity but in a way it was quite sterile.  Nowadays the media is about half tabloid, it boosts ratings.  That's why they've been focusing on Wright...he's a cartoon character.  That's why they have followed Bill Clinton on his stumps...he's such a colorful character.  You could liken these guys to Grandpa Munster...over the top.
At the same time, you see a lot more bias and opinion with the Media now.  This gets people stirred up but my take on it is...good, good to get stirred up.  Listening to the varied opinions lets us form our own conclusions.  All in all I give the media good marks, and I love Keith Oberman.  As for the actual subject of this post, McCain...YUK!
Yeah ancient elitist panderer McCains' free ride is almost over.  The great Tarheel State gave Obama the straw that broke the old nag's back and it's now inevitable Obama is the presumptive nominee.  I can't wait to turn our attention on the old pandering flip flopper.

Go Obama 08/12!
We don't need any more conservative lunatic fringe activist judges appointed to the Supreme Court.  It will take many years to undo the harm Bush has caused with his two pathtetic choices that have done nothing but steal away our rights and freedoms while protecting Bush from proper prosecution on his many illegal activities.

Go Obama 08/12!
Ok McSame...the free ride is almost over, try to remember what the neo-cons told you to say. How can you be a "maverick" when you're now a ditto head for the neo-cons. Those right wing extremists have screwed up everything they've touched for years now. Criminals. Lets talk Keating 5. People will know more about it soon. You're toast McBush. Enough of that crap ruling MY country. Time for a BIG change. Time for the U.S. to become a great nation again.
Not that I had ANY plans to vote Republican, but I think that gives the Democrats a good talking point..  thanks a bunch, McCain!
McCain embraced Bush philosophy that the judges construed laws as narrow as possible,who for the most part favor goverment authority.This is what is wrong with McCain,he is bush all over,only older.It will countinue to take away our rights(like wire tapping) Is this the way this countrys people want to be treatred,lied to at every turn about who is being spied on for no reason.Sorry but eight years of being lied to is enough,time for a CHANGE.McCain is not change he is same OLD lies.
For all those Dems out there who vow to vote for McCain to spite Obama... please take heed of this statement by McCain.  

If you want a court system that continues to go in reverse when it comes to looking out for anything but corporate America, you'll have to overcome your bitterness and see that a vote for Obama is in your best interest.
Nah,

For the GOP the fun is just getting started, the democrats are giving the Republicans the most target rich candidate.  It's gonna get ugly, karle rove style..
John "Macadam" is going to get Steam-rolled by the Dems in Nov.

Viva La Revolution!

Long Live Ron Paul Republicans!
Overthrow in 2012
Ah the fun isn't over. Hillary and Obama are stuck with each other no matter what happens. I haven't seen any real signs that Republicans have learned that acting like democrats is what cost them. Democrats are only in power now because they recruited more conservative members. Anyone in their right mind knows both dems are lying about what they'll be able to do. Besides we can't go another 4 years of having democrats and their buddies in the media terrorizing the American people. Republicans need time to recruit new talent, and rebuild. What could be more fun than watching a couple of democrats fail AGAIN. The next two Supreme Court judges to go will probably be Liberals. The Republicans left in the Senate need to make sure those 2 either never get a hearing or at least get hearings as fair as Thomas and Bork. Does anyone really want to listen to 4 more years of lies and conspiracy theories from democrats on how they lost this one? be more fun than watching a couple of democrats fail AGAIN.
YEAH BUT OBAMA CAN'T WIN THE BLUE STATES THAT'S A BIGGER
PROMBELM THAN MCCAIN HAS HE ONLY WON TWO AND ONE WAS HIS HOME TOWN.WHICH TELLS YOU THAT ALOT OF DEMOCRATS WILL
VOTE FOR MCCAIN.

I would argue the fun is just beginning...

http://thepajamapundit.com/
YEAH BUT OBAMA CAN'T WIN THE BLUE STATES THAT'S A BIGGER
PROMBELM THAN MCCAIN HAS HE ONLY WON TWO AND ONE WAS HIS HOME TOWN.WHICH TELLS YOU THAT ALOT OF DEMOCRATS WILL
VOTE FOR MCCAIN.

The Supreme Court nominee SHOULD be another reason no-one should vote for McCain come fall........we can't afford to have one more ultra-conservative judge appointed.............so all of you Hillary supporters who threaten to vote for McCain because she won't be your nominee need to think of that. Is it really worth that? If you're a true Democrat, you'll still vote Democratic in the fall. If you vote for McCain it might be like my mother said, "Be careful what you wish for..you just might get it!"
HE HAS NO CERDITABLITY WE ALL KNOW THAT HE HATES
AMERICA. THATS WHY 65.PERCENT OF THE WHITES WON'T VOTE FOR HIM OR THE HISPANICS VOTERS
Sorry, msnbc--we now know too much about your Mr Obama--Clinton backers will not vote for Obama enmasse no matter how much you push it. Remember, we are not sheep or groupies like Obama people. We will vote for the best President-not the star of msnbc. We feel the country is too important to hand it over to an inexperienced elitist.
Yes, the fun is over.  No matter how many people Lush Rimjob talks into voting for Clinton, the race is done.  Now it gets serious, so Mcshame had better watch his verbal blunders.
To everyone who is still talking about "electability" and how divided the Democratic Party is: Anyone else notice the "Operation Chaos" effect in Indiana?

When asked who they'd vote for in a Clinton/McCain match-up in November, 14% of Clinton voters don't plan to support her in the General.

To repeat: 14% of people who cast a vote for Hillary Clinton in Indiana DO NOT PLAN TO VOTE FOR HER IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

Look it up yourself: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#INDEM

Specifically: In a hypothetical Clinton-McCain match-up, 16% said they'd vote for McCain, and 41% of those were Clinton voters. (That's 16% x 41% = 6.6% of all voters in the primary.)  Similarly, 9% said they wouldn't vote at all in such a matchup, and 4% of those were Clinton voters.  (That's 9% x 4% = 0.4% of all voters in the primary.)  Altogether, that means that about 7% of the total don't plan on voting for Clinton in the general DESPITE voting for her in the Indiana primary -- and that works about to about 14% of all her supporters yesterday!

Even if you assume that this is a statistical aberration, she won by less than 2% ... the "Operation Chaos" voters outnumber her margin of victory by 5 to 1, so it would be an amazing coincidence for this to be anything but a real effect.

Rush Limbaugh is laughing at everyone right now.  It's one thing for Democrats to honestly decide to continue the process to vet both candidates as fully as possible, but it's quite another to drag it out for 2 months due to this sort of fraud.  Limbaugh and everyone who votes this way should be ashamed of themselves.
Here's the deal:
1. Keep required delegates at 2025.
2. Give 40% of Florida and Michigan to Senator Obama (about 146 delegates).
3. Senator Obama's web claims 184.5 delegates minus 146 delegates from Florida and Michigan equals 39 needed.
4. Get 39 superdelegates to give Senator Obama the nomination.
5. The Clintons get to go home for a much needed rest. As compensation, the Clintons can get a dog and name it BS.


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