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Hillary v. Huckabee?

Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:26 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Compare Clinton today to Huckabee in February, and it's worth noting the similarities as this continues. Similar statements on math and notice GOP operative saying it's OK for Huckabee to stay in the race, "as long as Mike Huckabee stays positive." 

But, it must be pointed out, that Clinton still has a FAR greater claim to this nomination than Mike Huckabee ever did, which is why Huckabee's hanging on became the stuff of Saturday Night Live. Just pointing out some similar language...

(1) CLINTON (today at West Virginia news conference):
QUESTION: Does your statement today mean that you intend to stay in this race through the vote on the convention floor?

CLINTON: Well, I'm staying in this race until there's a nominee. And I obviously am going to work as hard as I can to become that nominee. That is what I've done; that's what I'm continuing to do.

I believe that I'm the stronger candidate against Senator McCain. And I believe I would be the best president among the three of us running. So we will continue to contest these elections and move forward.

(2) HUCKABEE ON STAYING IN THE RACE
FEB. 12 (CNN): "As long as my guys are still waving their pompoms, I think we're going to stay on the field. The goal is still to win ... Everybody keeps talking about, 'Well, the math doesn't work.' We don't know what is going to happen. You don't just throw people's votes out and say, 'Well, we're not going to bother counting them because we kind of think we know where this was going."

Feb. 13 (FOX): "Well, the game may be for us to go to the convention, if nobody gets 1,191 delegates, and that's still a possibility. Until someone gets that magic number, we still have an election process, and there is no nominee. Once that happens, we've got a nominee, and it's time to rally around him. And so if that's not me, then we'll rally around who it is. But if we don't have one and we go to the convention, then we'll make the decision at that convention, and the delegates will decide. I'll have as good a chance as anybody."

Feb. 25 (Local TV): "If John McCain doesn't get 1,191 confirmed, committed, pledged delegates, then there is no nominee officially until we get to the convention. And when we get to the convention, all bets are off and many of the delegates can do what they wish." But, he added, "Now it's possible that he'll get there. And if he does, then so be it."

"I've always said it depends on the delegate count, and until somebody has captured 1,191 pledged delegates that's required to be the nominee, there's still a contest going on," Huckabee said.

(3) Note another similarity, GOP operatives saying, 'As long as Mike Huckabee stays positive' it's fine for him to stay in: "As long as Mike Huckabee stays positive, and as long as he does not stimulate a third-party challenge from the right in the fall, Mike Huckabee staying in could actually help John McCain," said GOP pollster Whit Ayres.

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WHAT?  This is a strange story.  What in the world is the purpose of this story?  It should be Headlined "ONCE UPON A TIME, IN A FAR, FAR AWAY LAND".

It must be a really slow news day.
Hillary will stay in the race to the bitter end, even if it means being escorted out of the convention.  She feels entitled to become President because of all the sacrifices she made (putting up with Bill's infidelities and being "persecuted" by the right wing). Expecting rational, sensible, sensitive behavior from her is futile.
ummm . . . one HUGE difference

Huckabee was positive . . . Clinton has been seriously damaing Obama

SDs are going to have to force her out because she won't give up otherwise and she's already shown that she doesn't care how much she damages the party or the country
Difference:  I don't think Mike Huckabee truly had any allusions about winning; he merely enjoyed the attention.
Give me a break Hillary this is not about you. Reports say she want to stay in until Jun 15. My God that is over a month away. We are trying to win the White House you are being very selfish. You won IN last night. Now would be as good time as any to bow out with class and grace. Will someone please so Mrs. Clinton to the door.
Sen. Clinton keeps mentioning seating the Florida and Michigan delegations proportional to her margins of "victory" in those 2 states.  But that would net her no more than maybe 30 or 35 delegates.  Sen. Obama would still be ahead from anywhere from 120-125 delegates.  So her rational for continuing this race is really beyond comprehension.
She's like that booger you get on your finger that you try and flip out the window going down the highway at 70 mph and no matter how hard you try and no matter what you do it just keeps coming back on a different finger and won't go away.
Next, she'll be implying that God will provide a miracle, as did the Huckster.  And that's just what it would take, too!
Isn't there anyone who can wake this woman out of her ego-centric delusions and think of her Party first, for once?
She's officially off the rocker.  I don't get it.  
Sen. Clinton keeps mentioning seating the Florida and Michigan delegations proportional to her margins of "victory" in those 2 states.  But that would net her no more than maybe 30 or 35 delegates.  Sen. Obama would still be ahead from anywhere from 120-125 delegates.  So her rational for continuing this race is really beyond comprehension.
Its like being terminally ill.  She wants to get her affairs in order, get something like a Senate Leadership position, a plank on the platform, her debt paid off......then off she goes.
CLINTON NEEDS TO DROP OUT AND MSNBC NEEDS TO TELL HER TO DROP OUT EVERYDAY
WHATS THE POINT??

For you WV and Kentucky southerners..
Clinton says
Screw em......

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

Is is a SAD day when Hillary looks like a nutcase! There is no way she can get the nomination and it makes her look foolish!
First Read.....may I ask what your point is?
There is NO similarity at all between Huckabee and Hillary, just as there is no similarity in their statements.
She won more than ten primaries (among them New York, California, Ohio, Penn., Mass, Indiana, Texas, Florida etc., etc., etc.). She also has somewhere near 1700 delegates. Huckabee didn't accomplish either of those things and his remarks were conveluted and not concise like Hillary's.
You people will say and do ANYTHING to put Hillary down, and prop Obama up. You will go to any length to regurgitate and promote the Obama campaign line.
You have totally prostituted yourselves and propagandized in such a way that would have made Joseph Goebbles proud.
For these reasons I WILL NOT vote for Obama come November....and First Read, for my part, can go straight to hell.


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