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Clinton drop out watch

Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:16 AM by Mark Murray
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Lots of Clinton backers and undecideds are talking on the record. “‘The air is completely let out of them,’ said first-term Rep. Jason Altmire of Pennsylvania, who is uncommitted to either candidate, referring to the Clinton supporters among his congressional colleagues. ‘They are resigned to the fact that it's probably not going to work out.’”

Sen. Chuck Schumer, per the New York Post: "It's her decision to make and I'll accept what decision she makes," he said.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein told The Hill: "I, as you know, have great fondness and great respect for Sen. Clinton and I'm very loyal to her," Feinstein said. "Having said that, I'd like to talk with her and [get] her view on the rest of the race and what the strategy is. I think the race is reaching the point now where there are negative dividends from it, in terms of strife within the party."

The Los Angeles Times: “‘It's a tough race,’ said Don Fowler, a former national Democratic Party chairman and Clinton superdelegate from South Carolina. ‘If things had been a little better in North Carolina, we would be stronger than we are today. But the game's not over till it's over.’”

“‘She has to look realistically at the vote [Tuesday] and decide what's best for her candidacy, what's best for the country, what's best for the party,’ said Democratic Rep. Dale E. Kildee, a longtime Clinton backer.”

“‘Let's have the people have their say,’ Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski of Maryland told the crowd, which included some congressional supporters. ‘We're riled up. We're revved up. We're ready to go.’”

Nancy Pelosi of California, the speaker of the House, was among those on Wednesday giving Mrs. Clinton room to make her own calculations about the race, saying ‘a win is a win,’ in reference to the Indiana results. ‘The race is alive and well and will continue,’ she told reporters.”

“‘It’s hard to answer that question; she has lost in North Carolina, but it looks like she won Indiana, which everyone expected,’ said Alan Patricof, one of Mrs. Clinton’s national finance chairmen. ‘I think she’s committed to going forward, but it’s hard to know. She is the one to make the decision about what she does. And a lot of us have trust and faith in her to make the best decision.’”

"Clinton advisers said they were concerned that the candidate’s online fund-raising, which boomed after her victory in the Ohio primary in March and in Pennsylvania in April, had slowed by comparison on Tuesday night and Wednesday, and that her donor base was either tightening somewhat or playing wait-and-see, despite her public appeal for money on Tuesday night. Clinton aides did not send out the near-hourly e-mail blasts bragging about online donations that came after previous successes."

So what is the Clinton case for staying? "Clinton vowed Wednesday to continue her quest for the Democratic nomination, arguing she would be the stronger nominee because she appeals to a wider coalition of voters — including whites who have not supported Barack Obama in recent contests. ‘I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,’ she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article ‘that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.’”

“Clinton's blunt remarks about race came a day after primaries in Indiana and North Carolina dealt symbolic and mathematical blows to her White House ambitions. The Obama campaign, looking toward locking up the nomination, stepped up pressure on superdelegates who have the decisive votes in their race."

The Washington Post: "Clinton needs to prevent Obama from winning endorsements from a substantial number of uncommitted superdelegates before the primaries end. ‘If enough move, that's it,’ one Clinton adviser said. The Clinton team booked a room at a Capitol Hill restaurant for a meeting with superdelegates. The campaign described it as a casual gathering for their liaisons but canceled it when told that the House was in an uproar over the housing bill and so nobody could come.”

“Clinton did meet with some uncommitted superdelegates individually. House Budget Committee Chairman John M. Spratt Jr. (S.C.) told her cordially that his state had gone overwhelmingly for Obama, and that he could not endorse her, Spratt spokesman Chuck Fant said. He pledged to stay neutral for now. One Clinton adviser, speaking on the condition of anonymity to be frank, said: ‘If the supers weren't buying it before, it's hard to see how they'll buy it now.’”

The Washington Post editorial page basically proclaims Obama the Dem nominee in its lead editorial today under the header: "Mr. Obama Moves On."

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Like I've said before - Hillary Clinton should drop out when she wants to - not when the media is calling for it.

That said, she needs to cool it with the attacks on Barack Obama and focus on spreading her message.  She needs to think about healing the party.

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LETS NOT FORGET HILLARY HAS 5 WINS ONLY SINCE FEB 5TH!
McCain-Clinton 08

Obama can't win
It's too bad the needs of one person are set above the many...
Sacrifice has never been one of Hillary's strenghts...
The lessons in life of strenght and sacrifice propel the journey we most honor..
May we all work together in our times..
I find it interesting that the news media is so desperate for Clinton to get out of the race; I've not seen this kind of push to get any other candidate to drop it in any other election year - think Ted Kennedy, Gary Hart and Jesse Jackson all of whom went all the way to the convention without dropping out.  We've not had a primary race this close in a long time (if ever) before; yet the calls continue for Clinton to drop out.  Media and pundits, your love for Obama is showing and is nauseating.
The faucet has been DRIPPING for a long time. it is over, Hil. The Supers are trying to hard to be nice & give you a chance to go away. Now they should step in & embarrass you.I did not hear much about Obama's 12 consecutive primary wins...just that Hil had won a few recently. So what...he will win every state that she won.And he needs a VP that HAS experience...quite unlike her. She would cost him millions of votes.
If you are going to have Super Delegates, then I would have to assume is that you have given them the power to elect the person most likely to win the Office.

If they are not going to do that, then get rid of them.

If John McCain wins the Office, then the whole Party has totally screwed up!

The second best thing about Clinton dropping out is not having to look at that sanctimonius Kiki grin on CNN anymore.

Oh...Obama's an elitist? He didn't shovel 11M into his campaign.  Yeah..she's in touch with the common American!
Bye Bye

Wonder you will run for the NY senate position now that she has no reason to be there?
People power over corporate power!

Politics as usual? NOT THIS TIME!

Obama '08/'12
It's time the superdelegates removed the fence polls from their backsides and do what they were chosen to do - make a decision. They can put an end to this, but fearing repercussions, they won't do that. I think they need to look at the fact that their fear of making a decision brings their re-electability into question. Who wants a politician that can’t make a decision even with most of the facts already in and a clear choice to be made? If they can't take a little criticism for their choices, then they should not be in politics.
According to the figures she is 11.4 million in the hole! But no fret, being a Washington self serving paper hanger money is meaningless. This is a major reason of Her serving in congress, I would say ""No concept of reality!  ""Is this part of don't ask Don't tell!
enator Clinton with her enormous qualifications would make any presidential opponent look pale and inadequate in comparison.  She is a tough fighter who has the support of millions of Americans.  Remember it's virtually a tie. Obama does not have an overwhelming mandate from the people.

Senator Clinton will drop out when her supporters say it is OK for her to do so.  Why are you rushing her? This is disrespectful and offensive toward women. Obama better be cautious about having his surrogates call for Senator Clinton to drop out or he may lose those die-hard Clinton supporters as follows.

Senator Clinton is recognized by working Democrats as a hero capable of restoring their part of the American dream.

Senator Clinton is recognized by middle aged women as a hero on the verge of breaking the glass ceiling bringing dignity to women’s issues.

Senator Clinton is recognized as a hero among senior citizens as a true contender for the Presidency. The only female president that they may see in their lifetime.

Senator Clinton is recognized as a hero to young girls who long to be a fire- fighter a doctor, a senator and now President of the United States.

Senator Clinton is recognized as a champion for minority groups like Hispanics giving their cause a voice.

Senator Clinton would make a spectacular President. She has a passion for details and decisiveness. Her ability to articulate to the American people gives her real connection to us. Senator Clinton is bright, she’s strong, she’s passionate, she’s enthusiastic, she’s resilient, she’s full of hope for the future and she is determined to give us the kind of future that us Americans deserve-all Americans.

Senator Clinton should be admired for her public service, great talents, and awesome strength, and love for this country.

Anne, PA
Even if Hillary quit today, she would still win several of the remaining states primaries. I guess that fact speaks to Obama's overall strength, or lack there of.
It would show class if she would.  Honestly, with all of the race baiting that is being played right now, I'm beginning to seriously doubt that the Dems. will win in November anyway.  There's the racists (blue collar and otherwise), who will cut off their noses to spite there faces before they'll vote for an AA man, then there's the racists who try to call AA's racists because they vote for a candidate who happens to be AA- disregarding the fact that AA's are able to distinguish between the better of the two candidates, white women who will never vote for an AA man, white women who will vote for a white woman only because she's a woman, Latinos who will never vote for an AA man, and so on, and so on.  This party is becoming the party of RACE which is what Sen. Obama was trying very hard to avoid.  We are a sad lot.

OBAMA, 2008!
Can anyone imagine a scenario in which she actually gets the nomination? I mean seriously, what in her mind does she envision happening? And if so, could someone please describe such a scenario, because I'm dying to know what events must transpire for this to occur.

All she can say... her ONLY argument is: "Well, you never know what can happen." So she basically wants super delegate to hold out, and she wants her donors to keep GIVING to her campaign (even though she wont spend her own money, only "loan" it) on the off chance that something completely improbable happens.

It's a lost cause. She is the new Mike Huckabee (except without the positive ratings).
"Clinton cited an Associated Press article ‘that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.’”  

hard working but uneducated whites???????????????????

no hard word working blacks or hispanics or asians matter to her?

no 'educated' people (of any color) matter to her?

makes it hard for her to campaign for lower college tuitions....it just shrinks her base.

I think Hillary is revealing more and more of her true nature.  The 'blacks' were good when they did as they were told but not now?  

She needs to stop pretending she's a Democrat.  

The SD's need to put a stop to this!!!
I think the undeclared super delegates are COWARDS, kinda reminds of the lack of backbone they display in the congress. This race is OVER yet they remain on the fence.  I think it is very disingenuous for them not to flock to Obama, since this thing is OVER.  They suggest that some unforeseen bomb may fall on Obama making him unelectable.  Why don’t they just be honest and say they don’t want to elect the black man.  I’m sure if the shoe were on the other foot they would have declared Clinton the winner along time ago.  The undeclared supers are quickly becoming the embarrassment of the Democratic Party.
I'm Melting
Looks like she's still campaigning to me. Maybe the Democratic party should wait until Obama has actually won something before they try to force Hillary out of the race.
Like the Democrats would ever nominate a woman to be their candidate. It's better to go with an inexperienced male candidate I guess.
to much heat in the kitchen?
One thing that amazed me at Clinton's victory speech in Indiana was how easily the crowd broke into a "Yes we can!" chant, in response to her saying Democrats will come together and support whoever is the nominee.
Hillary suspend active campaigning after West Virginia. Chris Dodd is right its hard for the voters in these primaries to vote against someone that they will be asked to support within a month. Suspend your campaign.You name is still on the ballot but not attacking Obama.  Hillary you can not win take the high road and save your electabilty for future campaigns.
I think she'll hold out until May 20th. She wants to win in West Virginia and Kentucky and go out on a high. That's fine with me....IF she stays positive and attacks McCain....NOT Obama. It's got to be hard for her to realize the "people" want someone else.
At least she is speaking in a concilliatory fashion, trying to bring us together. Congressman Clyburn says she needs to stay out there, and continued to do just that. I give her a lot of credit for what she is doing.
I do not in any way want to show disrespect for Hillary Clinton, however, an interesting take on Hillary Clinton this morning in the newspaper:

She was a well known figure in this election. She had a great deal of support going into this. She was ahead by a huge margin before the campaign began. She had top professionals running her campaign, with Bill Clinton as a major asset.

She squandered everything.

Is it possible that perhaps instead of using a word like "fighter" to describe Hillary Clinton, that perhaps the word the media should be applying is:

       underachiever?

I never got the impression in this campaign that Hillary Clinton was a leader. She was more of a - me against the world type of campaigner. When in fact, she lent her campaign millions of dollars. Yet somehow she tried to paint Barack Obama as the elitist. And a lot of the media bought into it.

The fact is that Hillary Clinton was always a DC insider, despite the shots of whiskey and beer drinking in the local bars.

Her vote on the Iraq War should be an indication. We live in a democracy. No one ever said she had to vote for that war. Never.

We are allowed opposing points of view in this country. That's what leadership is. It's what we as citizens wants to see in DC when it comes to sending our troops to war.

We never saw it with her.
Obama supporters - Please give Hillary time to graciously step aside. This will help unify the party. Hillary is a smart and tough person. Her strength and energy will be a great asset in a unified democratic party that will defeat the republicans in the fall.

what is to be gained by staying in the race,nothing!So it is high time that the superdelegates step up and put a end to the contest.I'm getting mighty tired of see rush(ditto head )mocking the democratic party and the system that he is messing with.The supers have seen and heard all the same things that we have seen.All the debates,heard all the speeches,seen most of the contest, seeing that the clintons will do and say anything to win,trying to destroy Obama,the party and the remarks that have come from there supporters.I know there are some that are afraid of the clintons,look what they said about Richardson(The mouth of the south calling him Judas)The time for change is here and now ther is nothing left ,the contest is over,and the time is now to turn the attention to John McCain, the man has a good head start that we can not afford to give,plus the press has given him a free pass,with all the gaffs in the last couple of weeks that have not been given any attention.CHANGE IS HERE TO STAY,HOP ON BOARD.
Hillary is not a quitter, Whty people insist on her quitting is rediculios.She is in there till the last vote has been counted as it should be. just because some people have not made it this interesting and challenging to the AMERICAN people before is rediculous for them to suggest she quit. Hillary has her own mind and only she can say enough is enough. She feels she owes it to those of us that have stood by her and are still behind her. I think she has been very brave to have gone this far for the people that believe in her. I for one will not VOTE FOR THAT PERSON , We have had 8 years of stupity why not 4 more years, so I will vote for McCain
That USA Today quote shows Clinton going for the 2008 equivalent of the infamous Southern Strategy within the Democratic Party. I guess we can call it the "West Virginia/Kentucky Strategy" this time around.
She is down to 2.2% chance on the Slate.com deathwatch, I think.  Yes, that's the lowest they've had her.

Lisa's metric for the morning.  If HRC wasn't a wealthy woman, she would have been out probably on March 4th.  Because she wouldn't have been able to loan herself the 5 million.  She has been on borrowed time due to her wealth since then and even more so now.

Her campaign was hurting for funds all of April, yet she took money in small donations from supporters even as she didn't disclose how hurting they were.  That's deception and if I had sent money, I'd have been mad about that.

(hey, if everyone gets to have metrics, than so do I)
I realize that the HRC voters want their candidate to win but at what cost.  This has been discussed so many times over and over again.  I believe that Hillary knows she needs to get out and soon and I say this because of her tone and obvious lack of enthusiasm in yesterdays speeches.  She is definitely a very calculating candidate but all political hell and outrage will break loose if she somehow happens to steal the nomination from Obama.  She will lose the election if that were to occur.

Obama O-Eight
too bad for america, Hillary could have been great for america...an iron lady for our troubled world.
america should not play the popularity contest as in other countries in electing their leaders.its a loss for america if hillary looses...
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SUPERDELEGATES TO HILLARY:

Drop Out - or - Drop Dead.

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The superdelegates can't rush to endorse Obama or it will look like Hillary is being pushed out.  This would only serve to alienate her most ardent supporters who will eventually need to come under the Democratic umbrella.

Many of these supporters will realize that not to support Obama means supporting the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

My thoughts are that Hillary should stay in the race but to change her message.  She should be campaigning against John McCain and for the Democratic party.  But she needs to refrain from making the argument that Obama is a flawed candidate and she would do better than him against McCain in the general.  Continuing to draw distinctions between herself and Senator Obama only hardens the stance of her supporters.
I'm wondering if Hillary is only thinking about herself or the Democratic party. Michagan and Florida should be divided equally 50/50. The superdelegates should step up and decide on one of the candidates and move forward focusing on the general election. My personal opinion is if this was Obama behind like Hillary, the decision would have been made by now. DNC lets stop the devisiveness of the party and use tough love before any more damage is done to the Party. "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody" Bill Cosby.
Democrats Worst Nightmare: Clinton drops out of the Democratic race, and starts her run for president as an Independent.
Do you honestly think that the Clinton supporters will unite if Obama is elected?????

Obama supporters cant believe that Clinton supporters will not back Obama if he is nominated....
I see it all over the boards.."time to unite"...oh the Clinton supporters is just saying that...they will come around...

I GOT NEWS FOR YOU....CLINTON SUPPORTERS
will cross party lines and vote for McCain...and you better believe the swing voters and independents will vote for McCain......Hillary has a better chance of to defeat McCain.....but oh these Obama supporters...si idealistically pathetic following an EMPTY SUIT WHO IS TO LIBERAL and not MODERATE!...

So if Obama supporters think that Clinton supporters will back up Obama if he is nominated....
think again!!!!

you cant fathom the logic, cant believe it, find it stupid  that we will do this?

as a Clinton supporter,  all I have to say is ..
whatever.....................go back and drink your koolaid! and be prepared for handing the whitehouse to McCain...if OBAMA is nominated
I'm a 56 year old white guy with a 2 year degree making <$50k. I wholeheartedly support Barack Obama. It is my opinion that he is our best hope of real change in how things are done in Washington, DC. I feel he is less beholdin to special interests than Hillary. That said, I want to pledge to vote for the DEMOCRATIC candidate in Novemeber, be it Barack or Hillary. Either one is a FAR better option than what McCain represents, which is a continuation of the failed policies of George Bush & the neo-cons. I'm calling on one Hillary suppoter to match my pledge. Let's get a Democrat in the White House and work together to take back OUR country. Thank you.
Drop out?

Sadly, whether you admit or not, GWB did have more experience than BO when he took office.  People did not believe he had enough experience in judgment, always creating a mess when he ran a business such as his baseball team, but they bought into his rhetoric of compassionate conservative, and feeling-good guy whom you can drink a beer with.  They gambled on him, and that's what you get when you lost your gamble.

BO is selling the same package, bottled slightly differently from the left. BO's rhetoric is new politics by trashing the Clinton administration to be the same as Bush's, and making feel-good speeches on the empty words of "hope and change".

BO had not much else to offer, as far as experience and accomplishments are concerned (what the hell "community organizer" means is beyond me as qualifications/experience to be a president is beyond us). The only glimpse we can have is the type of people he had himself surrounded in the past 20 years.

For the economy: he makes housing deals and benefits through the aids of Rezko and wife, 15 years of friendship. He gets money from Rezko to get himself elected.

For spiritual and inspiration guidance: He is deeply associated and educated by Wright. He writes and sells books on Wright.

In decision making: For his political convenience, he changes his rhetoric 5 times to explain his friendship and mentorship with Wright.  His indecisiveness or lack of suggest that he is just like GWB who continued "reading" to children when the country is under attack.

For internal affairs: He makes connections with Ayers.

They do not show confidence just as a gamble getting into electing Bush as a gamble getting out of Bush for a Bo.
The Democratic leadership is being very irresponsibe by giving the Clintons a free-hand to propagate this sort of dangerous foolishness. The worst way Democrats can set themselves up for perpetual electoral defeat on the national stage, is to allow the Clintons and their idiotic surrogates polarise the traditional Democratic base along racial lines and that is what they are trying to do with this despicable new line of arguement. This woman is propelled by an insatiable diabolic thirst for power that is draped in the irredeemable cloak of irrationality. I mean, it's making no sense anymore. If you have no path to the nomination, get out of the bloody race. If you are not going to get out, do not lay a flipping glove on the bloody de facto nominee. What's so hard for them to comprehend?
after years of a stubborn unyielding (to facts and reason) president bush do we even want to consider putting another such personality type in the white house?

say no to oligarchy, say no to CLINgONS
Not trying to be funny or a smart a-s but if her fund raising had improved after PA. Why did she have to loan her campaign so much money? I really am starting to feel sorry for her as a person. She had people run a bad campaign around her. I trully would have voted for her before Bill made those comments.I was torn after hearing Obama speak , then Bill made it easier for me to make my mind up. That is how I became a Barack supporter .  Like Hillary said sarcasticly (his big speeches) struck the right nerves.
HRC, time to start kicking those rocks!!
It is time to unite this party! We as democratic's can come together or we can mirror the republican's.
Their(republican) party is made up of single issue voter's who only vote for single issues. Groups made up of pro-life or no vote, nra or no vote, taxcuts or no vote, evangel's ideas or no vote, anti - gay or no vote, war or no vote. They are the most hard headed groups in America it is their way or the highway.
I understand how important the economy is an to not vote for our nomniee will mean more of the same more for Big Corporate America and the wealthiest.
Most of all it will mean a continuing loss of independent rights and the overturning of Roe vs Wade.
Their will be at least one supreme court justice retiring and we can ill afford what John McCain has said he will replace them with.
Folks, think about the above before deciding not to vote for our nomniee.
I have been truly embarassed by the breakdown of the votes in this primary election process. I am so ashamed of the mentality of some of the voters in I will not vote for a Black or I will not vote for a women and it has not all been in the south as some would think it just showed it ugly head in Indiana, Ohio and Penn. I know it will show it's head again in West Virigina and Kentucy. I have watched the bluecollar vote for some 40 years not only vote once but sometimes twice for Presidents that will screw them over.
So whichever of these two is the nomniee; we need to get behind and vote for, so all you bluecollar, female and African American votes put your party and country before your own feelings and untie for a win in Nov.
Maybe Hillary Clinton dont' believe that America have elections to prove who is the best nominee. Or maybe she believes that she could pull off what G.W. Bush was able to do Al Gore in Florida. Her next move will be going ask the Supreme Court to over-turn the will of the voters.
“‘Let's have the people have their say,’ Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski of Maryland told the crowd.

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Babs better watch out, this is not the way of the Democrats. They never trust the voter. That's why Democrats have the elites decide who the nominee is.
Huckabee never got out of the race until McCain was over the amount of delegates required to win. Why should Hillary quit until Obama has done the same?
I don't know what the hurry is about.  She deserves a chance to finish the race.  Hillary is due that much respect without being pressured to quit.  We know the math is impossible but nobody knows her reason for staying in.  I hope they will leave her alone. Only a few weeks are left and she has a right to continue.


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