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Clinton continues to tout electability

Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:56 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
CHARLESTON, WV -- Calling West Virginia “a test” for herself and Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton made her case to local voters and those watching elsewhere that she is most electable in the fall.

“I’m winning Catholic voters and Hispanic voters and blue-collar workers and seniors, the kind of people that Sen. McCain will be fighting for in the general election,” she said. “Now some call you swing voters. I call you Americans.”

It wasn’t just swing voters -- but swing states -- that she argued were on her side, rattling off the states that she’s won in primaries, including Michigan and Florida (where neither Clinton nor Obama campaigned).

“Now the delegate math may be complicated, but the electoral math is easy,” she said. We need 270 electoral votes to win in November.”

Speaking directly to those on hand, she said West Virginia was another such state that needs to be in the Democratic column, adding that while polls show her doing well here, she wants “to do really well.” Earlier, she implicitly said that she’s targeting the so-called Reagan Democrats.

“I think it’s fair to say that West Virginia is a test,” she said. “It’s a test for me and it’s a test for Senator Obama. Because for too long we have let places like West Virginia slip out of the Democratic column... I remember these are the voters right here in West Virginia who delivered two terms to President Reagan and two terms to President Clinton, and I like that outcome better.”

She called the “hard-working voters” of the Mountain State the “heart and soul of the Democratic Party and the backbone of our victory in November.

“We’ve always said were the party of the people haven’t we?” she said. “We’re the party of the waitress on her feet. We’re the party of the nurse on the night shift. We’re the party of the worker on the line, and we’re the party of the coal miner on the job. We’re the party of the hardworking people of West Virginia. We stand with you and we will stand up for you.”

Clinton spoke to a small crowd inside the State Capitol building here, after organizers scrapped plans for an outdoor rally due to weather. She was introduced by first lady Gail Manchin, who praised her record as senator and first lady but offered no endorsement. Clinton said she had met before the rally with Gov. Joe Manchin, a first-term Democrat who remains in the ranks of uncommitted superdelegates.

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It's the audacity of hope vs. the audacity of nope
She's lost her mind! She's actually lost her mind!
Hillary,

You have flunked the test about 30 times. You are either mentally unbalanced, at this point, or completly evil with ill intentions.

However, you should know that whatever G-D has ordained for Obama, and the good people of America, you have now power to defeat it.

Jealousy is toxic. It leads to bitterness, and death. The haters would do their pscyhe, blood pressure, and general health a great deal of good to abandon it.
WHERE ARE THE SUPERDELEGATES ????

WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF ?
I never thought until now that it was possible that one person could single handily destory the democratic party.

May I present to you Senator Hillary Clinton Queen of division!

I don't know whether to feel sorry for her because she is so diluted or hate her for being so self absorbed!
Yes, Hillary is electible;

Just not as electible as Obama!

That is why Obama has all but won the nomination and Hillary is crying over spilt milk!!

WAAAAA!!!WAAAAA!!!  But I wanted to be President----

OOOOps too late Clinton.  Now it's time for you to do you duty, Bill too, and tell America how great the Obama's Are!!!

Quit scorching the earth!
Somebody should ask the good Senator Clinton how many of the votes the cross over republicans who followed Rush's request to vote for her in the primary will be voting for her if she were the candidate.  Hillary...say "Thank you, Rush, for keeping me from being embarrassed in Texas, Ohio, PA and IA"...and then depart stage left!
Hillary?

You and Obama already took that test, you failed. He has won most votes, most delegates, and most states.

Your irrelevant now. Any win you may achieve in West Virginia, or Kentucky is a moot point, anyways.

Even IF Michigan and Florida votes are counted, you still LOSE! You won by default in Michigan. Even Florida, 33% voted, against YOU, even though they knew their votes didn't count. You only won 48% of the vote in Florida. In Michigan, you were the only one on the ballot, Obama wasn't, and STILL only got 55% of the vote, where 42% voted UNCOMMITTED against you.  

And if Michigan and Florida votes are counted, he STILL Wins by 100,000 votes. So get over yourself, the FAT LADY has sung!
That's was testicular fortitude will do for you and apparently Hillary does have more that the superdelegates. They could end this now.....
Hey what did your Mother tell you? Don't stare at the crazy person talking to themself. Hillary and her supporters = Crazy.
I think Hillary is suffering from Tanya Harding syndrome, she is waiting in the wings to knee cap Obama. She reminds me of thise movie ,The Prestige. She feels she has to break bones to get what she wants.This is my very own electablity arguement.
Hillary if you are so electable,
Why do you keep running out of money ? Where are your managing skills?
Why did you allow your husband and your surrogates to interject race into this campaign ?
Why did you not prepare past Super Tuesday?
Why do you treat your constituants like children using George Bush style talking points?
Why could you not be Hillary Clinton?Why did you keep coming up with those silly charaterizations of yourself?  Why dont you understand that you could not win against somebody that did not even try to bring the skelotons out of your closet?Dont you understand that when the Republicans would get a hold of you that they have a laundry list a mile long ? That they only courted you to attract you into their snare? Hillary dont you have even the slightest sense of reality? Cant you understand that not all voters like your WCW style talking?  Cant you understand that we are not all fools that believe that a couple that makes over $130 million in 7 years is not middle class. That you dont have a gun rack in the back window of your pick up limo.   That all middle class blue collar worker is not white ? That trying to continue the arguement of electabilty at this point is becoming more increasingly  arrogant at best and racist at least? Why why why dont you understand that it was not just the Black vote and the students and the white elite? No it was the military families as well Hillary . Dont you realize that the only reason you are still  a float in this race is because Repbulicans voted for you because they no that a vote for Hillary will rally all of the conservatives that dislike McBush to battle you. That your name and Bills in  Republican house hold is behind most dart boards. That in Democrat homes we dont have you and Bill next to our Jesus Picture that you are not the light of our party,just hope that you are not trying to be the death of it. To those Clinton fans that are willing to put aside our disagreements to take down the Republicans in the fall welcome. Let me make one thing clear if a miracle happens and Hillary wins this thing fair and square with out this electablity arguement. If she has a miracle to happen and pulls this race out without trying to drag down Obama. Hillary can count on me and my vote . If you want to sit in this blog and spout out angry racist things, I truly feel sorry for you and hope that you catch up with the world that is trying to leave people with your twisted views in the past where they belong. Things of our past.
Patty in SD, your argument makes no sense if all you are trying to do is say you are voting for McCain because your lunatic girl has lost it.  Re-read what you posted.  Your argument is right if you are trying to say white Americans won't vote for a black candidate.  But then you go off on the McCain tangent.  
Patty,sd,ca - the most racist person in these forums on a daily basis, is you.  Just admit it already.

First of all, VOTING FOR someone because of their skin color is NOT being racist, it's being supportive because of race.  NOT VOTING for someone because of skin color, IS being a racisit, because you won't support someone because of their race.  The person voting for someone because they are black, isn't necessarily NOT voting for the white person because they are white.  But when you WON'T VOTE for someone because of their race, it's racisim, pure and simple.

Think about what you say sometime, I think you will find that you are a racisit at heart.  As a white man, all I can say is SHAME ON YOU PATTY!!!!
Am i Barred from being posted now?  I just want to plea with the SD and the Media....Hillary is proving that she is unstable....she now want to appeal to the so called "blue collars" because she thinks they are too dumb to see through her BS.  I bet if it came down to it ..she would wear a KKK outfit ..if she thought it would win her votes.....SD...please stop her before she lose her mind and ruin Bill Clinton legency.  
Patty, SD, CA

You're rantings become more racist and nonsensical by the day

if you studied the results from NC and IN, you would know that Obama is beating (and still gaining ground on) Clinton in every WHITE catagory except for over 70

you trying to make this 100% about race is sickening

WHITE male, 43, proud to be an Obama supporter
Regarding electability: How is Senator Clinton more electable than the man who beat her fair and square?

This past Saturday there was a special election in Louisiana's 6th Congressional district. the Democratic    
Candidate won despite Republican attack ads trying to link him with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.
This was in an extremely Republican district, in Republican hands since 1975. In fact the democrats have won handily in special elections in heavily Republican districts since 2006.

Prediction: Barring a disaster (read assassination)
Obama will win in November in a landslide.
McCain has "loser" tattooed on his forhead.
The debates this fall should be great fun!
The young, dynamic, articulate, Obama vs. the doddering McCain.
McCain will come across as an older crankier Bob              
Dole, only with more Bile and fewer ideas.

Obama in '08      
Blacks make up 25% of the Democratic party.....just how stupid is HRC?
Regarding electability: How is Senator Clinton more electable than the man who beat her fair and square?

This past Saturday there was a special election in Louisiana's 6th Congressional district. the Democratic    
Candidate won despite Republican attack ads trying to link him with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.
This was in an extremely Republican district, in Republican hands since 1975. In fact the democrats have won handily in special elections in heavily Republican districts since 2006.

Prediction: Barring a disaster (read assassination)
Obama will win in November in a landslide.
McCain has "loser" tattooed on his forhead.
The debates this fall should be great fun!
The young, dynamic, articulate, Obama vs. the doddering McCain.
McCain will come across as an older crankier Bob              
Dole, only with more Bile and fewer ideas.

Obama in '08      
SUPERS - PLEASE remove this woman from her misery!
Hillabee didn't major in math, she majored in miracles.
She is truly sad. Kind of a Norma Desmond moment I would say. Dr. Dean, I'm ready for my close up :)

What is so messed up with her logic is that she continues to talk about Florida and Michigan. I feel sorry for the voters in that state that their state politicians screwed them over. The FACT that she pledged to remove her name from the ballot in MI and not campaign in FL because of the sanctions the DNC issues to the states for moving their election and then not removing her name from the ballot and claiming she won MI is a joke. It goes to show that she is someone with absolutely no integrity what so ever.
Amen Td
Patty,sd,ca,

Your hate must be very painful for you. It is also a surefire, (no pun intended), path to loser-ville.

I mean no harm, Patty. I hope you will overcome it someday.
Regardless of the fact that she receive 60% of the white votes, its also the same white votes that put Barack Obama on top, (regardless of how much money they make and how educated they are) there are not enough black people to seal the deal. Clinton and the media are trying their best to divide this country and disenfranchise other ethnic groups. African Americans are not racist for voting overwhelming for Obama, they just see a sense of pride in this man and his message is appealing, hopeful, and empowering to them. After all they have voted 90% for every democratic white man in the past and are part of the coalition why her husband won the presidency twice. Were they racist then?  He may not be as experienced as Clinton and McCain, (they are a lot older than him; at the same time he has better judgment), but what have their experience gotten them? Voting for a war that killed over 4,000 soldiers and crippled our economy.

This country still has a long way to go with its racial division, and why should it improve when the media and the politicians are the biggest instigator pushing this division. The color of our skin does not matter, it's our soul that count, you turn us inside out and the only difference is our sex. I am from NY and when Hillary came here to run for senator, I felt the only reason was because NY is a wealthy and prosperous state. This woman is a deceiver and knows well how to manipulate people; she is only for herself, her husband and her child. I have never voted for her and will never vote for her and is not because I hate (which I don't) I just feel sorry for her. She has sold her soul to the devil and the Democratic Party to the republicans. She may have $109 mil but zero class. She tries to tear Obama apart, but as the saying goes, "the hotter the battle, the sweeter the victory" OBAMA HAS PREVAILED!

Hillary may god bless your soul, it's not too late to take it back from the devil!
Make sure to kick her when she's down. It's the American thing to do.  Your candidate must be so proud to have your vote.
Mary Todd Lincoln, wife of President Abe Lincoln, ended up spending time in a mental hospital.  Hillary Rodham Clinton, wife of President Bill Clinton will also end up spending time in a mental hospital.
DEAR HILLARY CLINTON,

IT'S THE DELEGATES STUPID.

SINCERELY,
ANNASIA JACOBS
AUSTIN, TX
To the Obama people: I am a white guy who usually votes with the republicans. Not because Im a racist or because I hate the democrats. I vote with the republicans because they have always been more conservative than your party. I don't call your candidate names or disrespect them because I disagree with their views, I understand that this is a democracy and the majority get their way. Sometimes you can be part of a very large minority 49.99999% who gets overruled. You just have to accept it and move on. If your candidate does'nt win in November, It will be because of people like me who voted for McCain. I was initially leaning toward Obama, I liked what he said, and I still agree with many of his views. But he has made comments and done things that lead me to believe that he is an elitist. That he looks down on us working people and I can't get past that. I guess that I'm just a typical bitter white person who holds a gun in one hand and a bible in the other. Its too bad that he thinks this way. He would have made a good president.
Patty, are you a Clinton staffer, a dedicated feminist, or just plain crazy?

Maybe if you told us exactly where you come from with your points, someone here may begin to understand you.
Why is it that we who support Clinton, no matter what race- we get called racist.  While 92% of blacks NOT voting for a white woman is not racist.

So sick of the hypocrisy the reverse racism and the race card.

Mrs. obama if you're not a proud American until you think you've got a shot at the power seat... GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!! and take your fellow racists with you!!

Obama is the first serious black candidate and will therefore have a tough time winning a majority of the white male and white female vote against McCain.... I don't think Obama will be able to win the swing states to beat McCain

many will call this a racist statement... i call it reality
Obama can not sit back and hope Hillary will get out SHE WON'T.  The spinless Super delegates won't tilt your way.  You need to campaign in West Virginia asking for their vote.  You will not win but you beat back the last vestige of her arguement that you are an elitist and can not appeal to blue collar voters.  If you wait for it to happen double digit losses in KY and WV can sway the spinless super delegates to her argument.  Fight back CAMPAIGN.


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