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Delegates: Obama gets UT add on

Posted: Saturday, May 10, 2008 1:47 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Obama picked up Utah superdelegate add-on Kristi Cumming.

The NBC NEWS delegate counts:
PLEDGED: Obama 1,590, Clinton 1,426
SUPERS: Clinton 277.5, Obama 270
TOTAL: Obama 1,860, Clinton 1,703.5.

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Forget the drip, drip, I think we've been in slo-mo flood mode! More will come, get out your waders! I can still remember Obama being down by 100, that's how recent that memory is.
Barack Obama - a president for our future.

Democratic Party - a party with a bright future.

America - a country with a bright future.
Slone Native,

You made an observation, of whom I hope will be our next First Lady, Michelle Obama.

By no stretch of a reasonable beholder's opinion, is Mrs. Obama ugly. She was stunning, in orange, Tuesday evening. You are behind by 40 years. The days of the exclusivity of the Breck Girl beauty standard, are dead, and buried, never to return.

She is not repressed, like many former First Ladies, who were largely kept silent - seen, but not heard. As a so-called, feminist, and Hillary supporter, you should be pleased about that.

Lastly, she is not a panderer, sorry. She has a brilliant mind, and speaks it. She is bound to make a gaffe here, or there, just like the rest of us. I love the fact that she is not afraid. I love her for being herself. She will not let herself, or her daughters, be molded into some wax figurine, that bigots like you demand of her. You would not accept it from her if she did.

You are hell bent on hating her. What you don't realize is that, just like Barack, the Whitehouse will forever be changed for the better, for Michelle having graced it with her lovely, and accomplished presence.

Welcome aboard Ms. Cumming. Bring some more super friends with you please. Put an end to the misery.
Clintons were very arrogant when the race started as they thought it will be a cake walk for them.  Now they are living in their dream world thinking that Hillary still deserves to win the nomination.    
Who tells the ghost that she has already died?

Its the bottom of the 9th.  Two outs, nobody on, the batter has an 0-2 count.  The score 21-7.  The winning team is up 3-0 in the series.  Nobody is left in the stands.  The pitcher is throwing strikes but the batter keeps fouling them off.  She doesn't realize that for all intents and purposes the game and the series is over.  She has way too much pine tar on her bat and keeps whining to the ump about how its not fair that they're not playing football.  They keep cheering from the dugout that there only down two touchdowns and anything can happen.  Nobody knows what they are talking about and nobody cares.  But nobody has the heart to tell them that you can't score touchdowns in baseball.  
drip...drip...drip

Have some dignity, Hillary!

This is embarrassing to watch!
In our history, presidential nominations for each party have been decided by a majority, long before every state has voted. Somehow, America has survived without every state having "their say."
Due to the rules of the democratic party for this election, the delegates up for grabs for each state are split, based on the percentage of the win/lose in each contest.
Since we have these rules in place, neither candidate has been able to completely run away with the nomination. It's a problem with our party rules, not with the candidates.
I think we have had two very strong candidates for this election. However, now we are nearing the end of the process and one has emerged (finally...thank GOD) with a good lead in pledged delegates.
My point is that MOST of the country has cast their votes, ONE of the candidates is ahead, this contest has become RIDICULOUS and EXHAUSTING.
Time for the superdelegates to do their duty, grow some guts and commit to a candidate to end this thing.
Perhaps, before the next election, the Democratic Party (my party), should look into un-cluster-fying the rules. Actual representative government, based on popular vote delegates, might be refreshing.
Please tell me why First Read still had Obama behind in Supers when everyone else is saying they are tied???
Who are those "secret" super delegates of Clinton?
Dear HRC,
  It's triple match point...game over.

Congratulations...Obama

His overall delegate lead is 157.5. That's up by almost 30 supers since just before Pa.

I see we're still in a supers battle though. We will handle it.
Another day another superdelegate closer to clinching the nomination, Yippee!  Come on supers, time to take the plunge into the friendly waters of the ObamaNation.  Time to finish this primary farce and get ready for the Main Event, sending that grumpy old panderer McCain into political retirement.

Go Obama 08/12!
It appears your Super Delegate numbers are 2 over for Clinton and 1 under for Obama according to their counts.  Are you cross referencing these counts with anyone, like the Campaign Camps?  The numbers on each News website is different.

Since you are tracking "up to the minute", can you synchronize your numbers with the nominee's numbers?

Thank You
If Clinton wins WV by 20%, and 300,000 people show up to vote (which would be a huge turnout), then she will net 60,000 votes. BUT...

The official Ohio numbers now show Obama with an additional 26,022 votes than previously reported. That means she will effectively net only about 34,000 votes after WV - but she is behind by 710,557 votes! This is why WV does not matter. And even a huge win in KY will be canceled out by OR.

And guess what - FL and MI won't change that. She cannot catch up in pledged delegates, contests won, or popular vote. And the polls show that BOTH she and Obama will be McCain. So what is her justification to superdelegates? Why take it from the person who is ahead by every measure if the polls show that he can win?

Exit stage left.
Every day that Hillary "Republican" Clinton wastes delaying the inevitable is a wasted day getting after the frumpy old panderer McCain.  Hillary has given McCain over two months of free time to drum up support and money while getting a free ride from the media because they've taken their eye off his boring story to focus on stirring the pot of our primary farce.

Go Obama 08/12!
Is there a place on your website where you list the superdelegates? Your totals seem to be off from every other source I can find that show Obama has pulled relatively even with Hillary. Even the Obama website is off by 6 or 7 delegates from your totals.
Personally I like Chuck Todd's work all campaign season long on crunching and reporting the delegate count.  To be sure it's a tough job keeping track of many thousands of delegates and who they're committed to or not.  I always enjoy Chuck's appearances on Countdown and the election coverage shows as he is so superior to what CNN does.  Keep up the good work Chuck and the other NBC/MSNBC political coverage team!

Go Obama 08/12!
MSNBC won't let this post be seen but they are inflating Hilalry's superdelegate totals by a dozen. Obama is ahead now. Everyone but MSNBC is reporting that fact. Why the bias?
Hi Domenico
Thanks for the latest delegate update.  Yesterday was a little confusing with so many delegates endorsing and some changing candidates.  Could you give us the latest count on how many super delegates each candidate has picked up since the North Carolina and Indiana primaries..thank you so much for keeping readers informed on the ever changing delegate count.  Dalene
Obama's website has it Obama 1,865 Clinton 1,698.5

Any idea why he shows 5 more for him and 5 less for her? Maybe your super count is wrong.
MSNBC why is FoxNews reporting that the Superdelegate count is as follows:

Obama = 272

Clinton = 272

Someones count is off and was wondering which count to believe at this point?
Hillary - Stop trashing the nominee!
What makes me crazy is that all the pundits and media are saying that the super delegates should not overturn the will of the voters.

I may be wrong, but based on the large blue states that she has won - if all the elected house members voted as their district did, and senators voted as their state did, and non-elected supers voted as their state did - she would be ahead in supers - enough to win the nomination. No one in the media is doing that math…to afraid to go there???

Hillary should run as an independant.....
If Obama has another few weeks picking up superdelegates at this pace, he'll reach the magic number of 2025 on or before June 3. He could declare victory after a loss in Puerto Rico without any grace period for Hillary to posture.
I don't think it is a question of sexism I just think America agrees that Hillary Clinton is not ready to be the first female President of the United States. By the ongoing movement, though, Barack Obama will most likely be the first Bi-racial, and considerably the first Black, president of the United States.
My fellow Dems -- how amazing is it that we would get two remarkable history making candidates at the same time.  
As much as we love Hillary, we all must admit that Obama and his team did the better job.  Hillary lost  not because she was a woman, but because she used the old ways of winning and times had changed before our eyes.

She thought she would win big on Feb. 5th and failed to plan for the 12 following states.  She depended on raising money from the fat cats and corporations and Obama used a new internet strategy, which may in turn change politics forever, thus he won.  

We cannot bite off our noses to spite our faces.  It is time to do what we have to to keep McCain out of office or this country will be well on its way to being a third world nation for sale to the highest foreign bidder.
I'm So Excited.  I just can't hide it!! Whahoooo!!!

Obama...For our Future.  A once in a  lifetime leader.  We love you..Obama.  
Unless my reasoning is wrong, If Florida and Michigans delegates are counted prorata, Obama is over the required number 2025, or close, within 30
No wonder Hillary got off that tact so fast.
and suddenly raised the number to 2209.
I'm just curious why Obama has his count of Supers at 272 and its 270 here. Additionally, the campaign has Clinton at 275.5 and here its 277.5

http://www.barackobama.com/resultscenter/index.php

Just wanted to ask. I know some News organizations are reporting that Obama has passed Clinton in supers, but not according to the NBC news count.
Isn't it time for you reporters to now jump on the bandwagon that's winning, talk about Hillary flip flopping, you guys do too.  Thank you Ms Cumming you have brightened my day.  

OBAMA 08/12
If Jimmy Carter,or Al Gore would come out and endorse Obama,I think it would put an end to the Clinton campaign,WHat are they waiting for,
one scenario, supers wont just rush to obama, because being the kind of man he is, he wont hold it against them. hrc however, will punish those that leave. YES WE CAN.
When and if Clinton wins W. Va. by 40 pts., will the pundits spin this as "she has the momentum"? Watching as closely as I have I no longer underestimate the power of pundits to influence.
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ALERT!!! Someone needs to audit the Super delegate counts, I think Barack Obama is missing 2.  Hillary's count keeps secretly/mysteriously going up.  This is just another example of the Clinton's corrupt politics!  I'm telling you someone needs to keep an eye on Hillary, she knows how to play dirty.  West Virginia & Kentucky- Please vote for Barack Obama, PLEASE!!!  
I hate to say this, Chuck, but there is something wrong with your count.  Today, AP has Obama within 1/2 a delegate of catching Hillary R. Clinton.  You have taken her numbers at will, but others have not.  Time to do a proper audit, and not take Clinton's word for it.
I myself and preparing myself for the spewing that's going to go on by the Clinton campaign on Tuesday.  Can you hear it now?  Suddenly the entire Presidential election will fall on her win in West Virginia.  Ugh.  Keep the supers coming.  One a day while it might seem like a trickle eventually becomes a flood.  
why does fox have them tied 272 ea. while you still have her up by 7.5?  I don't understand why all the networks #s are different?
Hillary, if I can borrow Frank Sinatra's words:

And now, the end is near;
And so you face the final curtain.
My friend, I'll say it clear,
I state your case, of which I'm certain.
you've loved, you've laughed and cried.
you've your my fill; your share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so amusing.

To think you did all that;
And may I say - not in a shy way,
No, oh no... not you,
You did it your way.

GOOD NIGHT HILLARY !!!!

As far as this nominating contest is concerned, Hillary is dead, she just forgot to lie down.


There's something wrong here.  With the nine supers for Obama yesterday, he went to 271.  Your front page shows 269.  With the UT add-on, this article now shows it as 270.  So...why three different numbers for Obama?  What's the right number?
Your figures in the article on Obama's nine show Clinton with 271.5, your front page shows it as 274, and this article now shows it as 277.5.  What is the right number of superdelegates for Clinton?
The beginning of a new era in American Politics is dawning. We are living in a transitional period that will be remembered as America's 21st century Renaissance.

Historians will remember this period as the end of the politics of ignorance and fear. Hillary will be merely a footnote in this narrative. After Obama the US will certainly elect a woman of great integrity and character, a woman worthy of the support of her constituents. It just will not be Hillary Clinton
Thank you Utah Super delegate.  I'm from Utah, a very red state.  My vote for Obama in the general won't really do much...but I was proud to vote for him the primary, helping to throw Utah to Barrack Obama.  Incidentally, that primary vote was quite an experience in this small town.  Hundreds of names above mine were all Republican.  I felt so proud that I was the most intelligent one there!
An older, rural, blue collar, woman who has been for Obama since the begining.
Although I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Republican - I'm going to vote for Senator Obama.  The simple fact is that this country needs a drastic change of policy and direction.  And although John McCain is a decent man and served his nation with dignity, we just can't afford some more of George Bush and Dick Cheney (I admit to voting for Bush 2x).  Hillary is has just plain lost it - and she is doing serious harm to Senator Obama's chances in the fall.  I almost believe that she and her husband are involved in a scorched earth policy - it is disgraceful!

But the American people have also learned to parse the rhetoric of both Madam Clinton and Senator McCain, and the American people will finally come to their own conclusions that America MUST CHANGE.  The last, best hope for that change is Senator Obama - God Bless Him!

PS.  I agree that Michele Obama will be a delight to have as First Lady as well!
If I was a Clinton European-American male supporter, I would be irrate for being called an un-eduicated,ignorant is what she is saying,hard working white male.
Her statement shows how she feel about her supporters,dumb un-eduicated,wake up everyone of all colors an DNA.
THE NY Times says Obama has passed Clinton in supers. Why is MSNBC behind??????
The Clintons' new campaign song.
Just gimme money.  That's all I want".
Something is VERY fishy in MSMBC's superdelegate count!!!

he keeps picking up supers, but somehow he stays the same number behind on your counts

every other news agency reporting him ahead now
It's time for Hillary to go gentle into that good night.  Someone must tell Hillary that she has to give it up.  Hillary has jumped the shark and become a parody of herself.


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