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Obama vs. McCain

Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:11 AM by Mark Murray
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Newsweek previews a general between Obama and McCain. "A campaign insider who declined to be identified for the same reason says McCain aides are studying a private, 52-page dossier, compiled for the aborted 2004 campaign of Illinois Republican Senate candidate Jack Ryan (slated to be Obama's opponent until disclosure of some embarrassing records related to his divorce forced him to drop out). The dossier, a copy of which was obtained by NEWSWEEK, brands Obama as ‘in favor of coddling sex abusers’ and ‘shamefully soft on crime and drugs.’ It hits, for instance, Obama's vote in 2001 against a GOP-sponsored measure to toughen penalties against ‘gangbangers,’ pushed after a particularly brutal gang killing in Chicago. Charlie Black, McCain's top strategist, tells NEWSWEEK he had not personally reviewed the Ryan dossier, but saw no problem with using Obama's votes on justice issues in the Illinois Legislature. ‘What's wrong with that?’ he says. (An Obama spokesman says the criticism in the dossier was ‘long ago debunked,’ and that the candidate ‘is supported today by law-enforcement officials across Illinois and the nation.’)”

Setting some conventional wisdom, the New York Times identified its battleground map in an Obama-McCain match-up. What's interesting are the states that ARE included and NOT included. Some semi-surprising inclusions: Colorado, Virginia, Washington and Oregon. Of course, the Obama campaign has been very insistent on Colorado and Virginia. And the McCain campaign has been similarly adamant about their chances in the Northwest. The respective other sides think each side is over-reaching.

The most surprising exclusion: Missouri. Considering that Obama's a neighbor, one would assume his campaign will treat the state as a battleground, which brings us to our battleground dilemma and it involves Missouri. If you think a candidate can get, say, 47% in a state, but that's the ceiling, is it a swing state? Missouri qualifies under those circumstances (so does North Carolina, actually); possibly New Jersey on the GOP side.

So this is where the map will get complicated over the next few months. Obama's campaign will attempt to put some 30-35 states in play, including Montana, Kansas, North Dakota, Indiana and even a district or two in Nebraska (which awards its Electoral Votes via Cong. District.)

The Boston Globe: “Obama has begun ignoring Hillary Clinton on the stump, made plans to visit general-election battlegrounds, and launched a 50-state voter registration program to build his base for November. John McCain has shelved his blueprint for running a general election campaign against Clinton, turned his fire squarely on Obama, and begun coordinating with the Republican Party about how to beat the Illinois senator in the fall.”

The Los Angeles Times takes a look at some challenges facing Obama in the general. “‘I am sure there are people in Missouri that won't vote for Barack Obama because he's black, but there are not that many of them,’ said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), a swing-state leader who endorsed Obama early. ‘I don't think that's going be a deal breaker.’ Instead, she said, Obama's most important test should he lock up the nomination will come from Republican efforts to paint him as an elitist, a social and cultural liberal outside the mainstream of American life. ‘The key is going to be whether Barack can avoid getting on defense on social 'wedge' issues and can stay on the offense on economic issues," McCaskill said."

One of the eyebrow raising moments from the weekend was the first mention, in some time, of the Keating Five scandal from a Dem surrogate. At an Obama rally featuring the candidate, a surrogate brought up the scandal, sparking the debate about whether the nearly 20-year-old scandal was still fair game. 

The New York Post does a tale of the tape between “New Age Diplomacy” Obama and “Cold War” McCain. It exhibits one thing very clearly, that in the general election there will be clear policy differences. (Accompanying story.) 

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Obama vs. McCain?

McCain!

McCain/08
It's a mistake to under-estimate the power of Obama nation in Missouri and NorthCarolina.
Mark my words.
One thing's for sure.  I don't believe for a minute that McCain and his surrogates (including Cindy) won't get nasty.  It has already started.  I will be paying attention (as I always do) to who runs the above-board campaign.

Frank Rich's article in the times yesterday was great...you can talk about you electoral math and I am excited to see more states-in-play (I hate when entire states get marginalized)...I am a fifty state strategy kind of gal...but Frank Rich's article really hits a grand slam in saying that you can throw all the convenetional wisdom out the window this year...there is a new year in town and its 2008.  Not so much a year of change (although it is that) but these are some pretty unique times.  Worth reading.

GOTV will be key, I personally will work this summer to get out what I think is a key block, the youth vote.  I am in my 40s but the youth vote is important to me because they are the ones who will look out for issues that will favor my children.  They will be my children's leaders.  I am squarely on their side and they need to come out and vote.

Obama for our best future.
The Repubs can't help it. They've got rancid pustule covered sacks, where their hearts ought to be.

A clean contest for them, will be if they refrain from releasing pictures of Barack praying over Ted Bundy's grave, while fileting a new born puppy, and drinking it's blood.
Change, Senator Obama.  Looks more like polictics as usual.  You are a fraud.
It's 3PM in the afternoon and the phone is ringing in the White House.  Who would you rather have answering that call, a wide-awake, alert Barack Obama or Grumpy Tired John McCain who has just been startled awake from his afternoon nap?

Go Obama 08/12!
The repubs just don't get it. They have no imagination. They think that the left overs from a succulent turkey served on Thanksgiving Day, will go down just as easily when served for Christmas dinner.

They are so weak this time.

Hey, can they forfeit?
I see that ancient Flip Flop McCain took a day off for Mother's Day.  He certainly had to catch up on all that nap time that's he's been missing since he stopped working his regular day job in the Senate where he had ample opportunity to take a snooze.

Go Obama 08/12!
Using past votes - while fair game - can certainly be misleading, especially in a sound-bite campaign.

Consider the war-spending supplemental bill. Congress intentionally put some things in it they know the president won't like. Imagine Bush was a first-termer, running for re-election. If he signs the spending bill, he could be said to "support" those other things. If he vetoes it, he could be said to "not support" the troops.

Unless we understand the context of each vote, the vote itself doesn't tell us much. Those doing the attacks usually count on most voters not understanding context.
Once again, Senator Obama demonstrates his effective leadership skills in directing and organizing  a specific goal driven, successful campaign just like the one that has helped him secure the democratic nomination.  This speaks to his experience and leadership capabilities.  He is most impressive in his wide-range of talents.  
I was in the Savings and Loan industry when that Keating 5 scandal broke out.  Teflon John McCain somehow managed to avoid the justice he so richly deserved from being served because he was a war hero.  He was very involved with the criminal Keating Gang and should have gone to prison the same as they did.  If he gets elected we can get a special prosecutor to re-examine this travesty of justice and make sure he pays the price he should have so long ago.

Go Obama 08/12!
It's pretty simple. If Ayers and Rezko are "fair game" in the Republicans' eyes, then Keating Five more than qualifies.
People are going to vote on the issues this time because there is such a stark difference between McCain and Obama on the issues: tax fairness, the war, healthcare,education, fair trade deals, jobs, the right to choose and equal pay for women.  The dems will take it because they can't take anymore of the repubs and how they screwed up our country. I mean, how many really rich people are voting this year?  5%???
Obama hasn't won the nominatioin of his party yet.
It isn't time to start talking about this match up.
Please report the news, stop trying to create it.
They are all GW III. Ha! Ha!
Oba...m..m, I don't know how you say it. Just
a hot head like me.
McCain, he has tried to act like me since 2004.
Live is good.
I'd take it slow trusting McCain on the debate idea.  It would be great if both stayed on the high road, BUT......
Obama is the favorite, we will all see that its a no brainer once mccain obama debate..


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