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Mark Murray, NBC Deputy Political Director

Domenico Montanaro, NBC Political Researcher



First thoughts: How Hillary will close

Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:16 AM by Mark Murray
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** How Hillary will close: Everyone seems to be looking for any little hint into how Clinton is closing this campaign. The last thing she wants is for the not-so-funny SNL "sore loser" parody to become conventional wisdom. (By the way, anyone else sense that SNL -- which was pretty tough on Obama early on -- is trying TOO hard to win over Obama folks with that cheap-shot filled parody?) Clearly, the Clinton campaign wants to see what superdelegates think after Clinton wins by 25-30 points tomorrow. It will likely be her largest victory since Arkansas, which she won, 70%-26%. Does that mean anything? Clinton hopes so. Yet the Los Angeles Times made a good point over the weekend: Wouldn't it be worse for Obama if he were losing primaries to a non-candidate? Isn't she doing him a favor at this point by at least going through May 20?

*** Clinton as veep: Here’s something folks aren't talking about: Rank-and-file Democrats who like both Obama and Clinton (and remember, a majority of Dems do like them both) will find it odd that she's not being seriously considered for Obama’s veep. So there is going to have to be a dance. All of us smarty-pants, Inside-the-Beltway types may know and/or think this is a bad idea, but that isn't what Joe or Jane Democrat in Iowa or Joe and Jane Democrat in Florida is going to think. Clinton will have to let Obama off the hook in some way, whether the Obama campaign likes that or not.

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd gives his first read on the tightening superdelegate race and Obama's pivot towards a general election strategy.

*** Not quite a flood, but...: Obama has pulled within two in the NBC News count of taking the lead in what was once Clinton's formidable superdelegate lead. Obama picked up six superdelegates over the weekend, including Arizona congressman Harry Mitchell, add-ons from Ohio and Utah, one from California and two switches from the Virgin Islands. Clinton gained one Saturday -- an add-on from Massachusetts -- but lost the two from the Virgin Islands for a net loss of one. Here are the counts: PLEDGED: Obama 1,590-1,426; SUPERS: Clinton 276.5-275; TOTAL: Obama 1,865-1,702.5. Since last Tuesday's primaries, Obama has picked up 19 to Clinton's net of 1.5.

** Vetting staff: Hamas vs. juntas: Wow, what a weekend in staff purges. Both Obama and McCain had to push folks out who could prove to be embarrassing to their campaigns. Just as McCain was getting some traction on his Hamas hits on Obama, he had to watch two staffers connected to a powerful GOP consulting firm resign due to the firm's ties to the Myanmar junta. If this guilt-by-association start to the general between McCain and Obama is a taste of what's to come, then folks are going to get frustrated quickly with the tone of the campaign. There's always a conflict of interest that could get blown up depending on events out of the campaign's control. For instance, would Myanmar ties been a problem had that cyclone not hit the country last week?

VIDEO: Does Sen. Hillary Clinton have an exit strategy? NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

*** Joint forums: Now that both the McCain and Obama camps are warming to the idea of holding joint forums during the election, who stands to benefit the most? Does McCain benefit because he's struggling to draw enthusiastic crowds when he campaigns and because of the depth and breadth of his debating/town hall abilities? Or does Obama stand to benefit by standing next to McCain enough that swing indie voters don't see the experience difference in the two over time? If both sides see more upside than downside, then this will happen more than a few times. The biggest motivation for both campaigns to agree to this: It cuts out the media and the commission from the debate/forum conversation -- something campaigns hate. They like to have their own control and simply force the media to cover them roadblock style.

*** Five big turning points: For the rest of this week, we're going to focus on what we think are the five big turning points of this campaign, which put Clinton in the position she's currently in: on the brink of elimination. Some will be obvious, and some will be points we think were under-appreciated at the time. We'll start with an under-appreciated one: Obama's Illinois residency. From his blowout win in Wisconsin and his initial launch in Iowa to the Super Tuesday squeaker in Missouri, Obama's candidacy was propelled as much by geography -- states touching Illinois -- as it was by race. Take Missouri, for example. Had Obama not won a single swing-state primary (not caucus) on Super Tuesday, Clinton would have had a VERY powerful talking point that night, because she would have won every state primary (not caucus) that matters. But Obama's Missouri squeaker (which probably was only possible because of the shared media market of St. Louis and because of McCaskill’s endorsement) made the focus on the delegate fight, rather than states won. This also brings us to a fact that could have Dems a tad nervous: Obama might be the first Midwesterner as the Dem nominee since Humphrey and Stevenson before him. Neither won. Then again, considering how important the Midwest battleground is this time, Dems may have stumbled into a geographically strong nominee.

*** The general pivot: Speaking of Missouri, guess where Obama is going to spend West Virginia primary day? The Show Me State -- in fact, he’s going to be stumping in Rush Limbaugh’s hometown of Cape Girardeau. With national TV deciding to cover the West Virginia primary as another Election Night, there clearly was going to be an opportunity for Obama to showcase himself in some form to attempt to take focus off of the likely landslide victory Clinton will enjoy.

*** It’s not easy being green: As we and others have pointed out, despite McCain’s maverick reputation, when it comes to most of the big issues (Iraq, taxes, health care, and the courts), there are now few differences between him and President Bush. But when campaigning today in Portland, OR, McCain will focus on an issue -- climate change -- where he differs with the Bush Administration. “The facts of global warming demand our urgent attention, especially in Washington,” he will say, per excerpts of the speech he will deliver today. “I will not permit eight long years to pass without serious action on serious challenges. I will not accept the same dead-end of failed diplomacy that claimed Kyoto.” The speech also coincides with a new TV ad on climate change that the campaign will begin airing in Oregon. Yet pegged to McCain’s emphasis on the environment today is a Washington Post piece noting what appears to be a mixed record on the issue. “[A]n examination of McCain's voting record shows an inconsistent approach to the environment: He champions some ‘green’ causes while casting sometimes contradictory votes on others.” 

*** Pickup opportunities? McCain’s swing through the Pacific Northwest -- in Oregon today and Washington tomorrow -- brings him to two potential swing states that lean Democratic. We say "potential," however, because Obama has shown more strength in these two states than Clinton. So there is some doubt of just how competitive McCain can remain in these two states if Obama is his foe.

*** On the trail: Clinton spends her whole day in West Virginia, hitting Montgomery, Clear Fork, Logan, and then Fairmont, where she attends a rally hosted by Gov. Joe Manchin; McCain, as mentioned above, is in Oregon; and Obama has an event in Charleston, WV and later attends a rally in Louisville, KY. Also, Bill Clinton makes four campaign stops in Oregon.

Countdown to West Virginia: 1 day
Countdown to Kentucky and Oregon: 8 days
Countdown to Election Day 2008: 176 days
Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 253 days
 
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Comments

Sudden thoughts and second thoughts.

If patience is a virtue, than we Obama supporters soon will be rewarded.  Honestly, what argument for going on after the Oregon primary on May 20 does Clinton have?  At that point Senator Obama will have more than 50% of the pledged delegates.  

In a sense, I do not envy the voters of West Virginia and Kentucky right now.  I am sure they will vote for Clinton, but then in 5 months they will be asked to vote for Obama.  Do you stand firm and vote for Clinton, or begin to show the rest of the party that it is time to rally around Obama?

Why does Clinton get no overwhelming media backlash on her ‘white Americans’ comments and McCain also gets away free with his Reverend Hagge relationship?  Obama was skewered and nearly beaten over Rev. Wright.  Is race still the big elephant in the room?

Does everyone agree with me that the Obama campaign staff needs to start shaping a new, more presidential message that goes beyond the ‘hope’ and ‘change we can believe’ in message?  Maybe something that will glue us through his presidency?  Will he knock us over with his acceptance speech, or his Inaugural Address?

Does everyone feel a little better now that the heavy burden of the primary campaign season is nearly over?  Keith and Chuck give us a countdown to Inauguration every day.  Come on clock, hurry up!!!
+++++++  Important Question

Could someone out there please explain to me why it is Sen. Clinton quotes an actual Associated Press article where she refers to white working class voters  --and is suddenly being accused - from multiple sides - of playing the race card?  

When Sen. Obama, who I might ad, was not even quoting any report –simply spoke from his heart  - stated ‘typical white people’ in his interview trying to explain his relationship with Rev. Wright – was NOT accused of racist statements. Not only this - but his remarks of “small town, gun totting – bible clinging voters with antipathy toward people who are not like them”   IS NOT RACIST?  What is up with the double standard?  It is OK for Sen. Obama to refer to small town, typical white persons, who cling to guns or their religion with antipathy toward others that are not like them –WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?? And he spoke from the heart when he said this ---he was not quoting anyone like Sen. Clinton had and she is the one accused of playing the race card?

Someone PLEASE explain to me what exactly is up with the double standard here.  Has anyone who actually voted for Sen. Obama  --read his books?  Didn’t think so…

As a Canadian  --I am seriously beginning to question to judgments of the American voter. I mean, I understand that your country voted for Bush, not once, but twice but seriously, what’s up with the decision making processes here and the accusations cast upon candidates for political convenience?  It is rather disturbing to see.
Here we go: now this morning we'll hear screaming that SNL is unfair and is "in the bag for Obama."  It was less than 8 weeks ago that the entire cLinton contingent was praising Lorne Michaels for being the only objective journalist in america besides Fox News.  That clinton cool-aid leads to some stunning displays of denial.
How will Hillary close? By winning most, if not all,  of the remaining primary states. Obama is really not a viable candidate anymore. Sure, he'll win the Dem nomination. But he really doesn't have a chance this fall.
Why aren't more people asking how taking a campaign from a $100 million headstart to $20 million in debt reflects on a candidate's ability to lead and manage a large enterprise?   It's quite stunning when you look at the cold hard facts of what has happened in the past 4 months.
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Hey Chuck and co.

For you the SNL parody may have been a cheap shot. But for us, and the majority of the country, SNL was a breath of fresh air.

I think you guys are stuck in your political world, blasted with e-mails and spin from both camps that you forget to step out of the box and see what the real world sees from the Clintons.

It was BOTH funny and more important TRUE.
I bet that she would not refer to SNL any more.
It's what we've been waiting for the bright minds of the media to say !

Chuck Todd, I can't believe you. Step out of your box for a minute.
Hillary boldy insults African Americans every day, and so do the pundits.
And African Americans do their speaking at the polls.

Remember, this is not 1998, 2000 or 2004.
And the more that people under-estimate and dis-respect Obama , the more he wins !

SNL was spot on. And you know it !
"Everyone seems to be looking for any little hint into how Clinton is closing this campaign."

I doubt that's true. Maybe a few misguided souls are looking for this, but I think the rest of us have moved on to the general election match-up.

And as for Clinton as second on the ticket, this is another media fabrication. Obama has his own negatives to deal with now, and simply can't afford someone with negatives like she would bring.

I'm thinking Bayh or Sebellius. The latter would be a great pick, but it might look too much like pandering to gender, so probably won't happen. Well, the driving factor would be if the Obama staff doesn't believe her state can be put in play, it won't happen.

The geographic pick is Rendell. The national security pick is less clear - don't think Webb would be good, though he does bring clear national security credentials. Richardson adds a little gravitas on resume, but he loses that when he speaks. I'm still holding out hope for Zinni.

But in the end, probably Bayh - he's youthful but experienced, with a calm, thoughtful demeanor that complements Obama, and there's nothing there to energize Republicans. Besides, Indiana could well be in play.
Senator Obama has run a clean, upright campaign. He w has won the largest amount of delegates, which is following the rules.  He has the right to decide who will be his running mate, regardless of what others think.  I am sick to death of the Clinton's and their entitlement mentality.  They have lost this time.  Go back to the Senate and run another time.  I do not want to see clinton anywhere near the democratic ticket.  She, by herself, has destroyed all credibility.  I want to see Senator Casey, who in my opinion, is the classiest person next to Obama.  
I wouldn't know if SNL is trying too hard to win over Obama supporters after being so hard on him earlier in the year because our family refuses to watch the show now.  One has to watch in order to be won back by stuff on the program.  Perhaps they should start an ad campaign.  They're eggs were in the wrong basket!

On a more serious note, any ideas how Hillary will "let Obama off the hook" of selecting her as VP?
I did think the SNL skit was weird.  They have been so pro-Hillary for so long, I couldn't tell if they were making fun of her or not.  They were just so blunt and this was such an about-face.  As an Obama supportor to SNL, "It's too late!"  They should have kept it even all along. The skit wasn't even clever.  It's like they said  if we have to make fun of Hillary, we'll make sure it isn't funny.
First read, Here's some friendly advice.

You guys haven't learnt yet. STOP comparing Obama to former candidates of the past. He is a new brand.
To combat racism and ignorance, he brought in NEWer and Younger voters.
That Genious.
The potential for increase in turnout, with his new GOTV operation is aimed precisely at that.
The more new voters he registers, the less the ignorance in the electorate.
period.
Chuck Todd, this is a challenge to you as the numbers Guru of MSNBC.
Discuss this in one of your blogs.
A big WVA victory is way too little way too late for "Desperate" Hillary to close the widening delegate gap.  She had to work on Mother's Day, as they say no rest for the wicked.  Her campaign stop at the church where she kept her mouth shut was the smartest bit of campaigning she's done in over two months as she didn't drive up her own negatives while driving up Obama's.

Go Obama 08/12!
You know if Hillary could face the numerical facts that it would be nearly impossible to win the nomination.SNL would not have said what they did. But when you see what Hillarys Arguement is to continue on well. Like it or not thay hit the NAIL ON THE HEAD.  That really seams to be her only claim for staying in this race. Because people are silly enough to believe her arguements and the media pushes her arguements for her. That is the only reason she is still her besides pure selfishness.What will a big win in West Virginia do ? Nothing to change the most important number The Delegate count she wont catch him even with the polled landslide victory . So what is gained talking points of how white people wont vote for him. That kind of talking point is uncalled for. So is her begging for women to vote for her because she is a woman. If Obama had argued either of these points there would be a total outcry from the media. So SNL skit may not have been nice but they actually showed the way Hillary has used any metric to stay in the game and work to tear The Democrat Party apart with Racial and Genderist arguements and Pander. As far as making Hillary a VP candidate may be worse than you think. She is still very polarizing no matter what her coalition thinks. Look at her now, I think if it is for the woman vote he should get another strong choice other than Hillary. One that will play a supportive role and not be waiting in the wings to upstage him. When you see her willingness to be two faced I would have a hard time trusting her If I was Obama.As far as the Super Delegates I like the slow paced drip it gives her time to bow out gracefully even though she is incapable of showing grace at this time.
The Obama-Debate SNL hits were played over and over all across the media, relayed and explained.  Why doesn't First Read tell everyone what the skit was about?  They obviously hit the nail on the head.  Hillary Clinton basically called all of her supporters racist.  She played the race card -on her own supporters-.
"The last thing she wants is for the not-so-funny SNL "sore loser" parody to become conventional wisdom."
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I think she's way too late for that. And let's be honest, we knew before PA that it was over, because that victory had already been factored into the equation. So after it took place - nothing changed. As have her upcoming large wins in WV and KY.

She is not going to win. After PA, she needed to grab the remaining superdelegates by a margin of 2:1. But since then, Obama has been the one to win the super race, out scoring her by a margin of 22:1!

I can understand if she wants to go out on a victory, but to continue past KY/OR would just be ridiculous, and a terrible waste of her supporters money.
Yeah I find more fools rushing out ..than real issues about real people being a part of the GOP's or the Dem's message...
TAXES, Economy, GAS prices, Mortgage, depression, inflation, food prices/shortages, Jobs, jobs, jobs, education, salaries, etc..
   Tone this GOP and Dem's
While we have the problems..no one wants to do anything about them....no chickens in every pot please...

Sadsack where are you?  
Congratulations Chuck T!!  Howard Kurtz at the Washington Post just released a wonderful piece on you, and your political colleagues have nothing but rave praise and glowing comments for ya.  Thanks for all you do :)!
From some analyses, it is becoming clear that the word 'win' is being misinterpreted in the race between hillary and obama. Look, a win has a specific DEFINITION. In this case which ever candidate reaches 2025 becomes the nominee, even if the other has 2020. The fact that Hillary is winning in some states does not mean that obama cannot be given his win.

In a soccer match where the scores are 4-3, the loser is still a loser despite the three goals scored. What matters is that the winner has one goal ahead.

So, let's get serious with rules, regulations and the law, else we may turn america into a circus!!.
The SNL parody "no-so-funny"?  If it wasn't funny, it's only because it was dead-on accurate in every way.  HRC is a sore loser, she is lacking in ethics, she is racist and she absolutely will do anything to win.  I'm confident that if she could ensure her nomination by tossing Chelsea off the top of the Empire State Building, she'd be in the elevator right now.  Clinton isn't just immoral, she's amoral.
Just fyi, Joe and Jane Democrat in Iowa chose Hillary third.  Sure, the 29% who showed up for her a stubborn group of old-style diehards and older ladies transfixed by the idea of a woman candidate, and they should be respected.  But not to the extent of placating them by nominating the most polarizing person in elective politics as part of a ticket.  It would be a bad move, and it's not necessry at this point.
The Clintons now have a golden opportunity to prove that they are  both statesmen, not just political hacks. How they respond will speak volumes about them.
What obama will NOT go to WV or KY - Guess he does not need "those type" people - or FL & MI - think he might need ALL Americans to win?????
Hillary  or  McCain  NEVER  Obama!
Obama will have the delegates by May 20 for the nomination.  I hope Hillary exits with a positive attitude and we all join together to beat McShame!
Obama 08
I think many of us don't have a problem with her staying  in (till May 20th or after).  Many of us have a problem with her saying remarks which give the Republicans fodder or which serve to divide the Party (and I'm sure I don't need to repeat words she has recently used).

She has a huge platform, how she continues to use it says volumes about her (both good and bad).

I'm a little worried about her level of campaign debt and spending though...(I sincerely hope the money is at least good for the local economy).

I also feel its important for the citizens in the rest of these states to vote, its their clear right and I really don't think we should be marginalizing or discounting voters!  So, in the spirit of that...Go Mountaineers, and thanks to all the people on the ground for Obama, especially!  
Let's see if the Bearing Lost, so called Straight Talk Express can spin it's way out of this ditch.  He actually has lobbiers for a government that would let its citizens die before asking for help to a natural disaster.

I guess they have something in common.  McSame would let our troops die in Iraq, and our citizens loose their homes.

I guess birds of a feather really do flock together.
She NEEDS to concede already.  ENOUGH with all this nonsense.  We need to start focusing on November directing our resources and energy at Sen. McCain.

We've already WASTED so much time with Sen. Clinton.  How much longer are we going to continue to "hold her hands" while she is shown the door?  

How much more DEBTS is she going to incur?  AND who is going to PAY for her debts?  Her supporters?

If this was a WHITE MAN beating her, we would NOT even be having this discussion.  She could have been GONE 8 months ago!  Bottom line.  

Whose fooling who here?  Sen. Clinton has been given MORE than enough time to get her act together and SHE HAS NOT.  

The American People have voiced their choice.  THEY DO NOT WANT HER AS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!  It's as simple as that.

I failed to see why we continue with this cherade.


Don't count Hillary Clinton out yet!  She is a fighter, and if she wins big in WV, you may see more superdelegetes move to her support.  The people that support Hillary Clinton see her as a person that can work with Republicans.  With Obama, it is his way or no way.  It is change or get thrown under the bus.  That is why most Clinton Democrats will vote for McCain if she does not get the nomination.
Chuck, Mark and Domenico,

  Thank you for not bringing up the "hard working white Americans" comment. Yet once again, pundits are making a big deal out of what obviously was a bad choice of words by Senator Clinton, something that happens over and over in campaigns. From what I have heard in the Obama and McCain camps, they have all said it was just an unfortunate choice of words at this time.

  If she were neck and neck with Senator Obama, then it might have presented a problem for her. But she's slowly running out of gas.

  I wish the pundits would just give Senator Clinton a break for goodness sakes - just drop it.

  Unfortunately, from the way the primaries were conducted, it looks as though race will be a big issue in the general campaign.

  The tv pundits will see to it.    

Some say it doesn't matter how long or how bad this plays out because Bill Clinton didn't have the nomination until June.

The results were: Bill Clinton 43.0%, George H. W. Bush 37.4%, Ross Perot 18.9%

As anyone who remembers, Perot pulled virtually all of his support from the Republican side of the electorate.

We need to unite, heal and start the campaign for the GE now.
With Obama being the presumptive nominee, Clintonites and indepedents will rally towards him in the fall once they see John McCain for who he really is.  It won't be soon before the media spotlight knocks some of the shine off his armor.

With that in mind, why shouldn't Clinton continue in the race until all votes have been counted? Michigan and Florida won't help, no matter how the votes are counted.  Plus, no one wants to her whining a year from now - how unfairly she was treated.  She needs to lose fair and square - knowing that the will of the people turned against her.

I respect Obama even more for being diplomatic towards the impending demise of her pres. campaign. We all know that she would not have been this kind to her.

Obama 08
Regarding the joint campaign appearances (joint forums, whatever you want to call it).  If McCain keeps making GAFFEs, its probably to Obama's benefit to have McCain be more seen.  I am being serious.  The MORE I see of McCain, the more unknowledgeable he seems, and the scarier he becomes (suprisingly on both domestic and foreign policy type issues).

So, I'm actually thinking Obama may want to consider some appearances with McCain even if it gives McCain some free publicity.

Obama for our best future.
The builder of Ba rack H Obama, the one calling for Hillary to drop know very well that she still have a 60% chance to win the nomination. The so call experts in political math are 10% off of calculation.
I including the reminding State , plus Michigan, Florida and Puerto Rico Hillary should have between 50,000 and 75,000 extra to win the nomination with the popular vote. Is not a wishful thinking, is reality.
Hillary has shown to be the best by fighting not only her own party but the media in general
It doesn't mean a hill of beans if HRC wins West Virginia or not. IT'S OVER. We know it and she knows it. By May 20th. it will be official.

The only thing I can say to Hillary is....

NA NA NA NA,NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY HEY, GOODBYE!!!!
This is gonna be a Wonderful week for All the Barack Obama supporter's. Even tho other News account's , have him ahead in SD's, this site continue's to show him tied or behind by a couple.Lets see what kinda writeup 1st read gives Barack when their total shows him Ahead in the Last category for Hillary.

Why even write about Hillary, she's Done for, & No longer a viable candidate in the Presidential race. Why give her Any kinda Headline? Maybe 1st read could make a thread about why Hillary won't concede?

Now 1st Read think's the Guilt by association Nonsense is gonna get outta hand, since it involves McBush. The MSM vilified Barack on this same issue, & now try to say, Enough is Enough, Pathetic! The MSM think's they know what matter's to voter's, & Barack Victory show's the MSM know's Nothing. They bought into the Inevitability concept from the Clinton machine & are forever Tainted.

The American voter is concerned about the so-called kitchen table issues & not any Made up issue coming from the MSM. Get Real, MSM!


In 8 day's, I get to cast My vote for the next President of the United States of America, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Hot Daummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  & YeeeeeHaaaW !
I have to take issue with conflating Obama's informal advisor with McCain's convention chairman.  This is lazy reporting, something I usually don't equate with Chuck Todd. Aside from the difference in the level of involvement in the campaigns -Obama's advisor is part of a foreign-policy think tank.  It is his job to talk to all kinds of foreign entities to get information and understand their issues. He did this for the Clinton admin as well. McCain's people are LOBBYISTS for foreign gov'ts.  There is a big difference between being a neutral observer of disagreeable entities (otherwise how do we know we disagree) and actually advocating for them.
Shame on you NBC.
"*** How Hillary will close:"
--Here's how.  It seems pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton is going to play it out all the way, why not?  Following the credentials committee, MI nor FL will be counted in full (maybe half). Nontheless, she won't be ahead in any metric--seriously one has to award Obama some of the popular vote in MI.  But given that, she can go onto and win Puerto Rico, then say that the math just doesn't work for her, the rules are determined and she's suspending her campaign.  Plus if the credentials committee doesn't award MI and FL in full (which I can't see how they will) then it was the party insiders that lost her race, absolving her of some of that political guilt.  That is what I gathered, reading between the lines on Meet the Press.
With Obama being the presumptive nominee, Clintonites and independents will rally towards him in the fall once they see John McCain for who he really is.  It won't be soon before the media spotlight knocks some of the shine off his armor.

With that in mind, why shouldn't Clinton continue in the race until all votes have been counted? Michigan and Florida won't help, no matter how the votes are counted.  Plus, no one wants to hear her whining a year from now - how unfairly she was treated, how much better she would have done had she not been booted prematurely from the race.  She needs to lose fair and square - knowing that the will of the people turned against her.

I respect Obama even more for being diplomatic towards the impending demise of her pres. campaign. We all know that she would not have been this kind to him.

Obama 08
Chuck in NY.  Its telling that she's not getting more "heat" on the white person remarks.  Why?  She's no longer being considered a viable candidate so perhaps there's not a major reason to heat it up (and the Obama camp is not touching it, perhaps that's wise).  Many in the bloggosphere and MSM have noted it and slammed her on it so the record of it is out there.

She is being considered "on her way out", so there's no real reason to give it more air time.  Just for the record, I think she's been playing that card/deck (or I should say her campaign has been) for a good long while and I detest it.
The Clintons are just sad at this point. They made a good run but used  politics of the past and times have changed.  Time for a new direction and I hope they get out with grace and dignity.
Obama 1,865-Clinton 1,702.5.  The main page has Obama at 1859 and Clinton at 1700... please update

I love the fact that Mcshame's filthy-rich wife was grousing about how evil the junta in Myamar was---and then found out two people in Mcshame's campaign used to lobby through a big GOP firm for the evil junta that is letting its people starve. Typical Republicans; talk up democracy, work for juntas because it's all about the benjamins to a Republican.
Washington is not a swing state. East of the Cascade Mountains, the state is Republican--largely rural, lots of farming. But the population out there is dwarfed by the population west of the Cascades. And western Washington is nothing if not Democratic. So while, in terms of square miles, there is a big patch of Republicans, in terms of numbers of voters, there are far more Democrats. Washington will go for Obama in the fall--and strongly. Oregon has a very similar makeup: Democratic population centers in the western half of the state with rural, Republican areas in the eastern part. But make no mistake: Washington and Oregon are both going to go Democratic easily in the general this fall.
I just learned yesterday that Obama campaign has ordered their follower to right to FIRST READ IN FAVOR OF HIS CAMAPIGN AND AGAINST HILLARY. No WONDER THERE SO MUCH WRITING AGAINST HILLARY IN THIS SPACE.
It’s not socially acceptable to say things about race and gender, but in the secrecy of the voting booth, they come out. That’s why polls are not accurate when it comes to true feelings on race and gender, especially race. West Virginia and Kentucky’s population are only 3.2 and 8 percent African-American respectively, and many of those state’s voters are older and more traditional. No black candidate has ever been elected to statewide office in Kentucky. Even if there wasn’t a Rev. Wright controversy, I think Obama would have a tough time in West Virginia and Kentucky, for obvious reasons. Thirty-five years of being first lady of the United States and a state governor’s wife does not give you elected experience. The Democratic Party establishment has anointed Hillary Clinton because of her husband’s popularity.
Do my eyes deceive me or did Chuck Todd and his crew, who is employed by NBC just slam another NBC show (SNL)? Its alright for SNL to ridicule Sen. Obama for months but the moment a skit deplicting Sen. Clinton basically telling the truth that so many white people share in her sentiments,is being called a "cheap-shot. Talk about eating your own.

Clinton played the race card with the "hard-working white people won't vote for Obama" and hard working afro-american people like me took great offense with her comments. Don't slam SNL for showing a skit that essentially echoes the anger many are feeling toward Hilary Clinton. I've been reading this blog for months and no one on your staff Chuck took offense to SNL against its skits against Obama. Sounds like double-standard talk with you guys.
What Obama supporters do not understand and will never understand is he will have no chance in the fall against McCain. Say what you will but the "typical white people" will never vote for him. The one and only chance the Democrats have in the fall is getting Hillary at the top of the ticket. But she should turn down the VP role because she would be on a losing ticket with Obama as the Dem. candidate. The Democrats have a better chance of hell freezing over than him being elected this fall.
Hooray the First Read team is up and at 'em this fine Monday morning.  I'll be looking forward to the many news items they post and ofcourse the comments that come with them.
How will Hillary close? By winning most, if not all,  of the remaining primary states. Obama is really not a viable candidate anymore. Sure, he'll win the Dem nomination. But he really doesn't have a chance this fall.
Deb Nase, Oakland, CA (Sent Monday, May 12, 2008 9:26 AM)

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Most if not all?  I predict a 50-50 split.

He wins Oregon, Montana and South Dakota.

She wins West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico.

...and Puerto Rico does not get a say in November.

Yes, he'll win the nomination.  Yes, he'll win in November.  See ya for the victory party!

Bring on McJunta!!!!

Obama '08
Which Joe and Jane Democrat did you talk to????  No Democrats that I know think Obama should pick Hillary to be V.P.  Democrats are perfectly aware that the Clintons are a team and cannot envision the two of them returning to the White House in a supporting role.  I think it's the media that is perpetuating this ridiculous notion.


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