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Domenico Montanaro, NBC News Political Reporter



First thoughts: How Hillary will close

Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:16 AM by Mark Murray
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** How Hillary will close: Everyone seems to be looking for any little hint into how Clinton is closing this campaign. The last thing she wants is for the not-so-funny SNL "sore loser" parody to become conventional wisdom. (By the way, anyone else sense that SNL -- which was pretty tough on Obama early on -- is trying TOO hard to win over Obama folks with that cheap-shot filled parody?) Clearly, the Clinton campaign wants to see what superdelegates think after Clinton wins by 25-30 points tomorrow. It will likely be her largest victory since Arkansas, which she won, 70%-26%. Does that mean anything? Clinton hopes so. Yet the Los Angeles Times made a good point over the weekend: Wouldn't it be worse for Obama if he were losing primaries to a non-candidate? Isn't she doing him a favor at this point by at least going through May 20?

*** Clinton as veep: Here’s something folks aren't talking about: Rank-and-file Democrats who like both Obama and Clinton (and remember, a majority of Dems do like them both) will find it odd that she's not being seriously considered for Obama’s veep. So there is going to have to be a dance. All of us smarty-pants, Inside-the-Beltway types may know and/or think this is a bad idea, but that isn't what Joe or Jane Democrat in Iowa or Joe and Jane Democrat in Florida is going to think. Clinton will have to let Obama off the hook in some way, whether the Obama campaign likes that or not.

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd gives his first read on the tightening superdelegate race and Obama's pivot towards a general election strategy.

*** Not quite a flood, but...: Obama has pulled within two in the NBC News count of taking the lead in what was once Clinton's formidable superdelegate lead. Obama picked up six superdelegates over the weekend, including Arizona congressman Harry Mitchell, add-ons from Ohio and Utah, one from California and two switches from the Virgin Islands. Clinton gained one Saturday -- an add-on from Massachusetts -- but lost the two from the Virgin Islands for a net loss of one. Here are the counts: PLEDGED: Obama 1,590-1,426; SUPERS: Clinton 276.5-275; TOTAL: Obama 1,865-1,702.5. Since last Tuesday's primaries, Obama has picked up 19 to Clinton's net of 1.5.

** Vetting staff: Hamas vs. juntas: Wow, what a weekend in staff purges. Both Obama and McCain had to push folks out who could prove to be embarrassing to their campaigns. Just as McCain was getting some traction on his Hamas hits on Obama, he had to watch two staffers connected to a powerful GOP consulting firm resign due to the firm's ties to the Myanmar junta. If this guilt-by-association start to the general between McCain and Obama is a taste of what's to come, then folks are going to get frustrated quickly with the tone of the campaign. There's always a conflict of interest that could get blown up depending on events out of the campaign's control. For instance, would Myanmar ties been a problem had that cyclone not hit the country last week?

VIDEO: Does Sen. Hillary Clinton have an exit strategy? NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

*** Joint forums: Now that both the McCain and Obama camps are warming to the idea of holding joint forums during the election, who stands to benefit the most? Does McCain benefit because he's struggling to draw enthusiastic crowds when he campaigns and because of the depth and breadth of his debating/town hall abilities? Or does Obama stand to benefit by standing next to McCain enough that swing indie voters don't see the experience difference in the two over time? If both sides see more upside than downside, then this will happen more than a few times. The biggest motivation for both campaigns to agree to this: It cuts out the media and the commission from the debate/forum conversation -- something campaigns hate. They like to have their own control and simply force the media to cover them roadblock style.

*** Five big turning points: For the rest of this week, we're going to focus on what we think are the five big turning points of this campaign, which put Clinton in the position she's currently in: on the brink of elimination. Some will be obvious, and some will be points we think were under-appreciated at the time. We'll start with an under-appreciated one: Obama's Illinois residency. From his blowout win in Wisconsin and his initial launch in Iowa to the Super Tuesday squeaker in Missouri, Obama's candidacy was propelled as much by geography -- states touching Illinois -- as it was by race. Take Missouri, for example. Had Obama not won a single swing-state primary (not caucus) on Super Tuesday, Clinton would have had a VERY powerful talking point that night, because she would have won every state primary (not caucus) that matters. But Obama's Missouri squeaker (which probably was only possible because of the shared media market of St. Louis and because of McCaskill’s endorsement) made the focus on the delegate fight, rather than states won. This also brings us to a fact that could have Dems a tad nervous: Obama might be the first Midwesterner as the Dem nominee since Humphrey and Stevenson before him. Neither won. Then again, considering how important the Midwest battleground is this time, Dems may have stumbled into a geographically strong nominee.

*** The general pivot: Speaking of Missouri, guess where Obama is going to spend West Virginia primary day? The Show Me State -- in fact, he’s going to be stumping in Rush Limbaugh’s hometown of Cape Girardeau. With national TV deciding to cover the West Virginia primary as another Election Night, there clearly was going to be an opportunity for Obama to showcase himself in some form to attempt to take focus off of the likely landslide victory Clinton will enjoy.

*** It’s not easy being green: As we and others have pointed out, despite McCain’s maverick reputation, when it comes to most of the big issues (Iraq, taxes, health care, and the courts), there are now few differences between him and President Bush. But when campaigning today in Portland, OR, McCain will focus on an issue -- climate change -- where he differs with the Bush Administration. “The facts of global warming demand our urgent attention, especially in Washington,” he will say, per excerpts of the speech he will deliver today. “I will not permit eight long years to pass without serious action on serious challenges. I will not accept the same dead-end of failed diplomacy that claimed Kyoto.” The speech also coincides with a new TV ad on climate change that the campaign will begin airing in Oregon. Yet pegged to McCain’s emphasis on the environment today is a Washington Post piece noting what appears to be a mixed record on the issue. “[A]n examination of McCain's voting record shows an inconsistent approach to the environment: He champions some ‘green’ causes while casting sometimes contradictory votes on others.” 

*** Pickup opportunities? McCain’s swing through the Pacific Northwest -- in Oregon today and Washington tomorrow -- brings him to two potential swing states that lean Democratic. We say "potential," however, because Obama has shown more strength in these two states than Clinton. So there is some doubt of just how competitive McCain can remain in these two states if Obama is his foe.

*** On the trail: Clinton spends her whole day in West Virginia, hitting Montgomery, Clear Fork, Logan, and then Fairmont, where she attends a rally hosted by Gov. Joe Manchin; McCain, as mentioned above, is in Oregon; and Obama has an event in Charleston, WV and later attends a rally in Louisville, KY. Also, Bill Clinton makes four campaign stops in Oregon.

Countdown to West Virginia: 1 day
Countdown to Kentucky and Oregon: 8 days
Countdown to Election Day 2008: 176 days
Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 253 days
 
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It's 3PM and the phone is ringing in the White House.  Who would you rather have answering that call?  A wide-awake, alert Barack Obama or a Grumpy Tired John McCain who has just been startled awake from his afternoon nap?

Go Obama 08/12!
Obama was not accused of the "typical white" comment he made? What a moot argument. Blogs were so filled with comments regarding that "typical white" remark, in which Obama was trying in earnest to illustrate his points on race, something most politicians rather have avoided. Clinton, on the other hand, was not trying to bring the sensitive issue of race into discussion in the public square, but merely attempting to scare up votes on the basis of race, just as she did with gender.
This coutnry is so obsessed with the double standard that there even seems no agreed-upon definition of what it really meant. Incereasingly, we are becoming -- or should I say already have become? -- a nation f hypocrisy, and we remain blinded by our prejudices and ignorance that we cannot objectively analyze situations.
Hey First REad,

I am one of those "Jane Doe's in Iowa" and I can tell you from first hand experience that we are NOT wanting/wishing/expecting HRC to be asked to be VP.

In case you have forgotten, HRC came in THIRD, #3, here in Iowa.

We didn't want HRC then, and we sure as hell don't want her now.

Funny how the MSM keeps speaking for all of us "white" people out here.  Iowa is 98% white, and yes, most of us "work hard" (some of us are "educated", and many of us are not) but we OVERWHELMINGLY chose Obama over HRC not just once, but in our county conventions also.

And don't forget, that most Edwards supporters (Edwards came in #2), have switched to Obama, NOT HRC.

The media continues to have a skewed view of Obama voters.  The HRC campaign would like everyone to believe that ONLY HRC can get "white" voters, just because she won in PA and Ohio.  But the funny thing is, that Obama has won Iowa, Kansas, Utah, Idaho, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and I could go on and on and on.... 33 states in all, and MANY of those states, like Iowa, have VERY small AA populations.  That means he WON WHITE VOTERS.  

Additionally, even in states with high AA pops, Obama STILL won white voters.  There is NOT ONE STATE, that Obama won with ONLY AA votes.

Enough of the "white" and "black" vote already.  It is not only insulting, but it is also silly.  Sure, there are still some racists people in this country, but as you can see, as the "black man" is winning, that MOST of us have gotten past "race".  We don't care.  We have moved on, and the MSM and HRC camp. are trying to hold on to the past.

Anyway, please don't try to cast my state, Iowa, as wanting HRC on ANY ticket.  

Her support here in Iowa was lacking back in January, when she came in THIRD, and believe me, she hasn't gained in popularity.

Here in Iowa, we are MOSTLY "white", and we are ALL hard working, be it in the corn or bean fields, in an office, or in a meat packing plant.  We don't care about the color of anyones skin, or if they wear a flag pin, or dodge sniper fire.  We care about gas prices, the price of food, and ending this war.

We didn't chose HRC back in January, even though way back then Obama was still pretty much unknown, because we understood that HRC was the SAME OLD PEOPLE DOING THE SAME OLD THING.
And we understood that the same old, same old is not what this country needs.

Iowa will go blue in the Fall.  Too many of our sons, daughters, brothers and sisters, moms and dads have been shipped off to war.  Too many of us can not afford to pay $4.00 a gallon for gas.

We understand that McSame offers MORE OF THE SAME, and we have had our fill of GWB.  And I would suspect to see many more "swing states" go blue also.  

Just wait and see.


Obama 08
I do not want Hillary Clinton as VP.  No way.

Her entire method is the polar opposite of hope and change.  Can you, as Barack Obama, imagine having that family one heartbeat away from the position you hold?  No thank you.  

When she hangs around long enough to be dragged kicking and screaming from the podium, her political career will be over.  She and her husband will make zillions of dollars from book deals and speeches, so don't feel too sorry for her.  She did this to herself.
Hillary is campaigning to win. Nothing has been decided yet. Obama is a deeply flawed candidate whose baggage increases more and more each passing day. He has no accomplishments, just some lofty rhetoric, and he has his extreme liberal voting record. Obama won't even win half of the remaining primaries. Even the Democrats know the man is flawed and is not the answer.
I am beginning to think that Hillary has no intentions of an 'exit speech' or closing down shop. I can fully see Hillary going all the way to late June or maybe to the convention. She is in denial and feels she is 'entitled' to win. A true leader knows when it is time to step aside for the good of the party. Hillary clearly plays by her own rules and it's really pathetic. I also feel really angered that Hillary says that white working Americans won't vote for Senator Obama. I am a 40 year old female working white American that absolutely will vote for Senator Obama! It infuriates me that she is playing the race card at this juncture. All the more reason for people to see that she is still living in the past and in her own world. The SNL parody was accurate in about every way possible. I hope the people in the remaining states yet to vote will show her that she is wrong and vote for Senator Obama who truly 'gets it' and will really help to unify our country.
Why is NBC the only media outlet not reporting that Obama has passed Clinton in superdelegates?
Sen. Obama has a history of disqualifying his running mates - as he did with his State Senate campaign in IL.  And this is the "change" we all can believe in?  

This election will go down in history as the election that disqualified millions of Florida and MI voters  --all for the convenience of having a chosen golden boy ---as the nominee. WHY EVEN HAVE A PRIMARY if all along --the election was slanted to begin with.

When the truth comes out about how Obama's lawyers worked 24/7 to suppress the votes in FL  ---the Democrats can say goodbye to ANY loyalty come November!!  

Nomination goes to Obama = FLORIDA VOTES FOR MCCAIN.  Period!!!
I predict there will be exactly one of those unmoderated debates between Obama and McCain.  McCain's only hope is to have "Traitor" Joe Lieberman right next to him whispering advice.  Once Barack gets Flip Flip John off his talking points and into some freewheeling, free thinking debating Obama will shine while McCain will crash and burn.

Go Obama 08/12!
SNL has obviously been intimidated by the news department at NBC. We've all seen the bias throughout this primary campaign.
The skit was uncalled for and doesn't correlate to anything that's happened in this campaign. It was just another pile-on from a network who's news division has chosen to whore itself out to Obama.
As for being "pretty tough on Obama"....the SNL scorecard is ONE (1) skit in which they accurately depicted the bias debate moderators showed towards Obama, and now THREE (3) skits in which they've absolutely torn Hillary to shreds for no reason.
I guess that phone call Obama made to Lorne Michaels paid off, eh?
The news media, including First Read is trying to create history by propping Obama up, and tearing Hillary down. Everyone can see it.
Oh by the way...Chuck Todd and the two other imbeciles who run this website couldnt shine the shoes of FREAL journalists. I don't give a damn what one of their buddies over at the Washington Post says.

PS, bad call to give national media attention to tomorrow night.  Your sponsors will not be happy with the ratings.  It's springtime, and this is not a contest. What channel is carrying the playoffs?
From the Dept. of Duh.

RE: 5 Big turning points - Obama's Illinois Residency.

Of course Obama's Illinois residency helped him, Just like Sen. Clinton's residency in the states of Arkansas and NY helped her.  She won big in those states and in some states that share borders with her former and current home states. (Tennessee, NJ, Pennsylvania, Mass).  Hmm, do you think maybe that is why the Clinton's chose to go to Chappaqua?
obama /edwards 08 still sounds good
It ain't about the pledged delegates anymore. What difference does it make that Obama has over 50% of them? He doesn't and won't have enough to get to 2025. Neither will Hillary. So they both need superdelegates. And the superdelegates should now be expected to do their job. They were created to keep the party from teetering over the cliff if the voters "got it wrong" and that's just what they are about to do. Why should anyone buy the Obama's camp's claim that the superdelegates should just be a rubber stamp for the pledged delegates? All bets should be off at this point. Both Obama and Clinton have failed to close it out with pledged delegates. At this point the superdelegates should hold off....wait for the rest of the primaries. But at the end, once Michigan and Florida are counted, I suspect Hillary will be ahead in the popular vote. And if the superdelegates are looking at the "will of the people" what better indicator is there than that??? (By the way, if you Obama folks think Hillary is so damned irrelevant, why are you still so angry?)
This reminds me of the way primaries were held in the dark age of 2004.  By the time West Virginia voted, the nominee was little more than a fait accompli.

My home state, Alabama didn't hold their primary until June and since everyone knew by that point that John Kerry was going to be the nominee, I had no problem at all casting my vote for Dennis Kucinich.  What did it matter?  
There is no reason for Clinton to get out of this campaign.

She will end it as the popular vote winner and democrats will have to decide at convention weather or not winning caucuses in Republican states is a reason to give someone the nomination.

She is by far the stronger candidate in Nov and should contest the race all the way until allthe votes are counted from all the states and all the delegates.

Take it to the floor Hill!  He is unelectable.
Obama went outside the party with his cuacus wins and open primaries to win the nomination, so this is not a pure dmocratic vicorty... that is why I do not feel guilty for not "rallying around Obama" as chuck suggested.  I may Rally around Mcain... He really is the one best capable of ending the war in a responsible manner. Obama will pull the troops and send them to Darfur
Who cares what path she takes to get out.....as long as she gets out! I'm sick of her and her pants suits! And Bill needs to go undergorund again. He's become an embarrassment (again).
+++++++++ Correction for O Canada

Barack Obama did not invoke race in his bitter comments. Being from Canada, I assume you don't realize that blacks just like whites reside in small town America.  His comments was a poor attempt to show empathy not insult.  His comments were more classist and out of touch than racist. If you go to small town America, the most religious, bible hugging people are BLACK people. Let's not really expose small town America. JENA anyone?

On the otherhand HRC explicitilty said "white" people thus invoking race as an argument to give her the nomination.

All of the Clinton campaigns case for her is based on the traditional Democratic base support staying "as is" (blue collar (aka white folk), backs, Latino, Asian, etc. That base will be eroded if she gets it and she would have to obtain new appeal from independent where McCain will trump her.

Obama's case is based on the new voter coalitions consisting of new, young, independents which will challenge McCain for swing voters. HRC has no credibility with swing voters. This is the real battleground. Not swing states but swing voters.
If Hillary don't get nominated she still can make HISTORY via the PEOPLE,
The 2008 primary race will go down in history as the birth of the Independent Party, in which Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will declare herself the leader, after leaving the DNC on May 20th. She will announce her declaration of Independence on the Lou Dobbs show and millions of Americans will support her as she soundly beats Obama and MCCAIN in a general election…running as an Independent. Due to the incompetence of Howard Dean, the disenfranchisement of Michigan and Florida, blatant media bias, and the premature coronation of Obama,…millions are prepared to leave the DNC in the dust and join HER. And let the DNC be the liberal party of snobs and cooks like Al Sharpton.It could be a "REAL"

INDEPENDANCE-DAY
GWAZNEW.COM
Hello gentlemen. Presumptive. That's a mighty big word. Presumptive means to presume. To presume mesns to dare to say or do something. To venture. To take for granted. It also means: a presuming, an overstepping of proper bounds. Gentlemen, have everyone forgottened that there exists a Higher Power and I don' mesn delegates of superdelegates. His name is GOD ALMIGHTY. He too has opinions. You do well to take the time find your bibles if you have bibles, blow the dust off and read the following chapters and verses: Daniel chapter 4 verse 17 and Romans chapter 13 verse 1. Also look up Judges chapter 5. That's of a woman who ruled a nation, but the message is for present were in and the future ahead. Also, don't overlook Al Gore. He, and there's the possibility that he and not Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama could be the nominee. I wouldn''t write him off! I'd keep an eye on him.                  
It's interesting how you cherry pick your SNL skits. How about the one where the media is pie-eyed goony over Obamarama?
Sorry, Chuck and friends, you're usually right, but this time, no, not so much.  I'm a Jane Democrat in a western state and we all want Hillary to go back to the Senate or something.  The last thing we want is to see her on Obama's ticket.  She would corrupt the whole thing, from   Day 1!
O Canada
In response to your question, she was trying to use race to her advantage, regardless of who she was quoting. In the process, she seemed to make insinuations that aren't very complimentary of "whites" or African Americans either one.
Dear Chuck et al,
You obviously are stuck in the "inside the beltway" (including the so called pundits from NY) mode.  If you think voters outside the beltway are pining for Hillary to be vice president, you'd better think again.  I am an Obamaniac but I would have to stop and consider voting for him if Hillary is anywhere near that ticket and there are millions of us out here.  You need a reporter outside the beltway to give you the scoop as to what the average joe and jane really are feeling.
Why do you think she lost so big?  Lots of people just can't abide her in any way shape or form.
Hillary said yesterday that "It ain't over 'til the lady in the pants suits sings."  Please don't sing, Hillary.  It was really painful when you sang the National Anthem.


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