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HRC: Dems don't get elected without WV

Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:55 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
CLEAR FORK, WV -- Hillary Clinton turned to the example of John F. Kennedy this afternoon as she tried to keep her bid afloat -- saying that West Virginia “made it possible” for him to become president, even though he went into his party’s convention short on delegates.

“But he had something equally as important,” she said. “He had West Virginia behind him, because it’s a fact: that Democrats don’t get elected president unless west Virginia votes for you. And everybody knows West Virginia has picked presidents pretty accurately over the last years.”

Clinton hit on her usual talking points and continued to raise her plan for a gas-tax holiday that she acknowledged Obama has called a “gimmick.” And, speaking before a crowd full of students, she also talked about the need to help people pay for college.

"My family could help me pay for college but nothing else,” she said. “I worked ever since I was 13. I had a job, except for the eight years in the White House when I did not.” Someone disagreed, shouting out that being first lady “was a job.” “That was a job,” she agreed, “a volunteer job, that’s right. That was a job with no job description. But it sure took up a lot of time. And it was an honor to serve.”

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she is pushing full force to muscle in the VP spot....


Get used to saying President John McCain.

Obama will get his butt kicked in November.The USA doesn't need radicals like the Obama crowd.

The Democrats have gift wrapped Florida, Michigan, Ohio and the Supreme Court for McCain.

woot woot
Yawn!!!!! Are reporters still be sent to cover her? Wake me up when she is out of it!!
Mr Obama, I hops blacks are enough to win in November. LOL
Did she have her sheet and conehead on while making the speech?
My sister was in Clear Fork at  Westside  High School.  She said, Hillary looked beautiful and her clothes were to die for.  She was impressed at how easily Hillary delivered her speech.  She also got Hillary's autograph.

Hillary is about solutions and Obama is just rhetoric.

Hillary, you go girl all the way to 1600 Pensylvania Avenue.  Obama will implode.  Can you feel it coming.
I think I'm going to VOMIT!
Hillary go away!
This is just too funny.......LMAO! This is exactly why she was unable to win the nomination and others are jumping ship.  There isn't a state or americans important to HRC unless she wins.  What a traitor to the US!

The skit on SNL was all about her - it was funny but not at the same time because it was so truthful
You really wanna see women get ahead? Push for Kathleen Sibelius as Obama's VP this time around. She's strong and doesn't have the baggage of Clinton. I'd vote for her as Prez in 2016!

Ideal:
Obama '08
Obama '12
Sibelius '16
Sibelius '20
(By then, I plan to be living in my mansion in Europe with my fabulous riches, so... )  Yo' Mama '24
Latest polls suggest that Clinton is picking up support from John McCain’s base which is the following:

White Americans that hate people of color.

White Christians that hate people that do not look like them.

White Americans that have very little education.

White Americans who do not care about their own personal economic condition.

White Americans that want to see the sons die in an un-justifiable war.

White Women who hate man still seams to be Hillary Clinton’s primary support.

The New York Times Op-Ed:  By BOB HERBERT

"I don’t know if Senator Obama can win the White House. No one knows. But to deliberately convey the idea that most white people — or most working-class white people — are unwilling to give an African-American candidate a fair hearing in a presidential election is a slur against whites."

So what she is saying to all of you is if you are White Trash I am your girl.  So vote for me so the South can rise one more time.  If I was White I would run as far away from her as a could.  This is not the vision for America.  Remember everyone she was a Goldwater girl when she was younger.
I am appalled by the continued low level analysis by people like Hillary. Remember: this is a primary election between democrats, and ONE of the two remaining has win. Come November, the picture changes, it is REP vs DEM. Hillary wise up and stop whining.
Hey I'm from Ohio and she told us the same thing about our state. So what state is it that you can't be President without winning?
So far I've heard Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, California, Florida, Michigan, and I think a few more where told the same thing. I think she is telling Kentucky the same thing. So which state was it again? I AM SO CONFUSSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama 08
Is she serious ? She uses the same line again ...

OK, why don't we just change the rules for 2008 and let the candidate with the least votes, the fewest number of States and the least delegates and fewer SuperDs win ?

Or ... we specify that only a woman or only a candidate with a last name starting with "C" can be nominated.
She's stuck in the past--get over it Hillary.  It's a new day in politics.  This woman is $20 MILLION in debt--she keeps voluntarily racking up more debt.  I really hope Obama does NOT help her retire this debt.  She's being reckless & irresponsible with her supporters $$$ for nothing more than to stroke her ego.
Obama CAN'T win without Hillary supporters.

Hillary supporters are voting for McCain.

Clinton Republics will tech the DNC a lesson they will never forget.
"And everybody knows West Virginia has picked presidents pretty accurately over the last years.”

-Hillary

What an obvious hedge, in stretching the truth.
Sounds like the person who shouted is a plant.  Why wont people understand this is 2008! Not 96' or 2004.' The electoral map will "change."  HRC wouldn't get 50% without name recogniction. Don't be fooled.
Hillary, you can have as much time off as you need, all you have to do is ask.
OOOOHHH, what's the use. It's all over but the shout'n.

No need to raise my blood pressure.
OH SNAP............SO SMALL STATES COUNT AGAIN??  I need a new card!!
DEMS DONT GET ELECTED WITHOUT:
PA
FL
OH
MI
and WV  ...PERIOD!

A vote for Obama = McCain in the White House!
Her pandering is offensive.  She is using the fears, and and desperation of struggling people, just for gaining votes.  For now, she'll be their champion, like she once was for African Americans.
and who said we are going to loose it if Obama is the man? is it because he is not white???????
it is a very bad way to go HRC !!!!!
Ha ha ha! Isn't that what she said about OH? No wait, TX! No wait, PA! Poor old Hillary just keeps moving the goal posts!
I remember John F. Kennedy, he was a friend of mine and the rest of the country and Hillary you ain't no John F. Kennedy.
It's all over, Hillary

For the sake of the country, for the sake of the party, and for the sake of your own legacy . . . throw in the towel before you do any more damage!!!
Wait! I thought it was PA! Wait, I thought it was OH! Wait, I thought it was TX! Wait, I thought it was IN! Wait, I thought it was NC!

I'm getting sick of her moving the goal posts. It's sad and pathetic. Drop out Senator Clinton, it's becoming desperate.
SHE CAN HAVE THE BACKWORDS PEOPLE OF WEST VA. THEY ARE LIVING 20 YEARS BEHIND THE TIMES. THE STILL THINK OBAMA IS A MUSLIM.

IGNORATNT PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY CONSTITUENCY LEFT FOR HER!

SO THEIR ALL YOURS, HILLARY!
I'm not sure, but I believe JFK won every election he ever ran in.

So wouldn't this mean he won every primary in 1960?
I thought it was Ohio, or was it Pennsylvania?  Maybe it was Texas that was critically important.  Blah blah blah.  Oh wait, I remember...it's DELEGATES that are critically important!

HRC UR pathetic!
WHERE'S THE BEEF?
It is funny who Hillary wants to stay in the past.  Things are so differnt now.  

I GOT SOME NEWS FOR HER HERE OUT WEST!  OBAMA WELL WIN:

MONTANA
NEBERSKA
COLORADO
UTAH
IDAHO
KANSAS
NEVADA
CALIF.
ORAGAN
WASHINGTON
TEXAS
SD
ND
NM

Obama is going to change the map mark my words.  You see out west we do live in the past we always look forward.  People back east seem to hold on to there BITTER past!  The media has no clue about who people here out west feel about Obama.  It's always about the eastern states.
Hold on there Mrs. Clinton.  Either you are "ready on day one" or you did not have a job for eight years.  You can't have both.  Also I thought she was a Lyndon Johnson wannabe and not a John F. Kennedy wanna be.  You really have to take notes with this woman.  I hope the good people of WV know which Hillary Clinton is on the ballot tomorrow.  Will  it be the warmonger or the weaper, the independent woman or the fraile wife of an expresident.  We know what to expect from HRC, the unexpected.
Hillary is playing somewhat loose with her facts:

In West Virginia presidential elections from statehood through 2004, voters went Democratic 20 out of 36 times.

Abraham Lincoln lost the West Virginia 1860 Presidential race by a landslide, so what does that suggest?

The most recent polls suggest that West Virginia is leaning Republican in the 2008 Presidential race regardless of whether Hillary or Barack is the candidate and no West Virginia polling shows Hillary winning a majority of West Virginia voters in a 2008 General Election.
Why does Mrs. Clinton use phony accents when she talks to poor people, or black people, or southern people? If she can't run as herself, whoever that is, how in the world can she govern responsibly, reasonably and authentically as herself? Yeah...that's the first woman I want to see as president...some sideshow huckster who makes carnival tents out of her husbands coattails.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvlr0BNgWW0
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24581569#24581569
C'mon all you "typical white, small town, bible clinging, gun totting, antipathy toward others who are not like you" West Virgina and Kentucky voters....

Vote for the person who enjoys degrading small town America.. Vote for Sen. Obama ;-)

"Change" you can really believe in!
She is not going to get elected WITH West Virgina, cause Obama has already locked it up!

http://www.politivine.com
It is funny how Hillary wants to stay in the past.  Things are so differnt now.  

I GOT SOME NEWS FOR HER HERE OUT WEST!  OBAMA WELL WIN:

MONTANA
NEBERSKA
COLORADO
UTAH
IDAHO
KANSAS
NEVADA
CALIF.
ORAGAN
WASHINGTON
TEXAS
SD
ND
NM

Obama is going to change the map mark my words.  You see out west we do live in the past we always look forward.  People back east seem to hold on to there BITTER past!  The media has no clue about who people here out west feel about Obama.  It's always about the eastern states.
I appreciate that volunteer jobs can count towards experience - especially if that is all you have.  But volunteers, no matter how hard-working, simply do not have the same level of accountability or experience as employees.  

Now Hillary finally admits that those 8 years of White House "experience" were truly as a volunteer - something the rest of us knew all along.  
Yeah--Goodbye Hillary.  The good coal miners should know that Bill sent you jobs overseas, along with the steel jobs.  It is very sad you duped by hillary and her race bait.

You truly are the salt of the eath.
If it wasn't a job, then why is it the basis of her candidacy?


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