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Obama announces manufacturing plan

Posted: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:57 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
WARREN, MI -- Obama today began his first primary season trip to Michigan by announcing his manufacturing agenda at a town hall in Macomb County, a place that has come to symbolize the very Reagan Democrats whose votes he hopes to win in the fall should he become the nominee.

Fresh off a 41-point loss to Clinton in West Virginia that signaled a weakness for the candidate in the Appalachian region, Obama forged ahead, confident his lead in the popular vote, states won, pledged delegates, and superdelegates would be enough to win the nomination, with just five contests to go.

Here in Warren, he unveiled his proposals for reviving American manufacturing. The plan includes a $150 billion fund to promote and develop clean energy technology over 10 years -- which he says will create up to 5 million green jobs -- a $60 billion infrastructure fund and a $1 billion-a-year start-up fund for small and mid-size manufacturers to convert to clean technology. He would pay for this agenda through a cap-and-trade system that would auction permits for carbon dioxide emissions, a spokesman said.

"This is a moment of challenge. It’s also a moment of opportunity, and the question you’ll face in November is: Which candidate can lead America to seize those opportunities?” the Illinois senator said to shouts of “Obama” from the audience. “Now, when John McCain came to Michigan in January and said that we couldn’t bring back all the jobs that had been lost back to America, he was right. We can’t bring back every single job. But where he’s wrong was in suggesting that there’s nothing we can do to replace those jobs or create new ones, to build off the incredible skill of the workforce here in Michigan and throughout the Midwest and to build off the expertise that we’ve created in manufacturing over decades here in this region. Where he’s wrong is in not offering policies and new solutions that are different from what George Bush has been offering over the last seven and a half years.”

Obama said McCain was against the kind of job training that can help make sure people can compete in a global economy and said he did not have a universal health-care plan. While Obama calls his plan universal, Clinton says it would leave out 15 million people because it does not mandate that people buy coverage.

The Illinois senator also hit McCain again on his opposition to a GI Bill being debated in Congress, arguing he had the wrong priorities." Part of what he’s arguing is well, 'We won’t be able to retain people because people will go get a college education instead of staying in the Army,” he said as the audience tittered. “"That’s not a good argument. Yes some people will leave to pursue their higher education, that’s what built this middle class in this country -- that’s what we want. On the other hand, we’ll be able to recruit a lot more people to go in because they know that the benefit is actually meaningful,” he said. “And by the way, this costs maybe two billion. John McCain has called for three to four hundred billion dollars worth of corporate tax breaks to, you know, building on what George Bush did and he’s saying we can’t afford two billion to provide our GI’s the kind of education they need? It doesn’t make any sense and that’s why, that’s why we’re gonna beat him here in Michigan.”

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds responded to Obama’s speech in Warren, saying “"It’s weak leadership and poor judgment for Barack Obama to make empty promises of billions upon billions in new spending on more government programs when he has no way to pay for it. Sen. Obama launched a partisan-style attack questioning John McCain's straight talk, without providing any evidence of his own leadership or experience on the issues that are hurting Michigan and states like it. John McCain believes that we can grow our economy and help workers by lowering taxes, ending wasteful spending, reducing health care costs, reforming our unemployment system and promoting energy independence.”

Michigan and Mississippi
Obama last campaigned in Michigan in June, when he spoke at an NAACP event and he gave a speech at the Detroit Economic Club in May, according to a spokeswoman.

Although Michigan was stripped of all its delegates after moving up its primary to January 15, Clinton won the contest, while Obama’s name was not on the ballot. Obama has said he is committed to reaching a compromise to seat both states’ delegations at the Denver convention in August. He again addressed the issue briefly during the Q&A after his speech.

"“We feel very confident about our ability to win Michigan,” he began. “"Now obviously, because of the whole hoopla around when Michigan held its primary, my name was not on the ballot and we did not do campaigning here. And I want to just remind everybody that wasn't my choosing. That was, we were just, what we do is just -- tell us what the rules are and then we play by the rules. You know, you tell me we're supposed to do this, we'll do that -- if you want something else, we'll do something else. Now, fortunately, if I'm fortunate enough to be the Democratic nominee, I'll have some say about what the rules are, and I can guarantee you that we will make sure that the Michigan delegation is seated and that they are going to have a full voice in what happens in the convention.”

Obama also sought to address any concerns people may have about the likelihood he could hurt Democrats in some areas down-ticket if he is the nominee, gleefully talking about the results in yesterday’s Mississippi special election in which Democrat Travis Childers beat Republican Greg Davis in a staunchly Republican county, despite Davis’ efforts to link Childers to Obama.

"They [Republicans] just lost an election yesterday in the heart of Mississippi,” he said. “This hard core Republican seat and they lost it by eight points and they did everything they can.. They ran ads with my face on it and they said, 'Oh, you know, look at this -- you know, former liberal and, you know, his former pastor said offensive things.' I mean, they were trying to do every trick in the book to try to scare folks in Mississippi. And it didn't work, and the reason it didn't work is because the American people know we need a new direction in Washington. That's why we're gonna win Michigan, that's why we're gonna beat John McCain here in Michigan.”

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Why dont we build 72 Novas 66 T Birds and 67 Mustangs. We could put W I D E tires on them and drive to the gas station and tell the kid "fill 'er up...high test".
We dont want change we want to go back.
Obama's green job plan is a xerox copy of Hillary's plan.

I will never vote for this swindler.

So what states does McCain think are important?

I applaud the good judgement and careful thinking of Senator Obama.

He will be a president that we will be proud of.
The white bitter people of this country DON'T LIKE you Mr. Obama.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MI - Remember that state does NOT count - Remember - YOU YOU YOU Blocked a scheduled and funded re-Vote.  Maybe you Forgot - BUT the PEOPLE of FL & MI have NOT!
The obama supporters need to learn the FACTS and STOP saying - well - they broke the rules - the PEOPLE did not - the Party Leaders did!  Did YOU decide YOUR states vote date????
I watched the town meeting on CNN Live.  It was awesome.  He should have no trouble winning MI.  
MI will be Seated at the CONVENTION!!!!
How nice of you to offer that!
COUNT ALL THE VOTES - BEFORE the convention - OR -
we will take this fight TO the Convention.
What excatly is a "Reagan Democrat" anyway?  I'm a Democrat who voted for Reagan in 1984, but I chalk that ill-conceived vote up to immaturity.  I just wasn't very well informed back then.  Young voters today are far better equiped to make the right choice in November.  It gives me hope for the future that so many of them see past the superficial issues of race and gender to actually cast a vote for the candidate with the BEST platform and the STRONGEST skill set for the job (IMO Obama!).
Hey, First Read: I think you need to change your brand name to Second Read -- you've missed being first yet again:

According to Politico and TPM, NARAL has just endorsed Obama.  This is huge because the Pro-Choice Feminist group has always been a huge supporter of Hillary.

This deserves at least an update.  
Unfortunately, too many people in rest of the country are buying the Clintons' lies that Obama is somehow to blame for the MI and FL mess or for not allowing a revote or not being willing to seat the delegates.  

MI and FL voters know the truth and anyone with a brain or access to the Internet knows that Hillary agreed to not count these votes.

My recommendation to the Obama campaign is to keep telling the truth -- over and over again until Americans understand that the Clintons are (as usual) reframing reality and revising history to suit them.
McBush's responses are as predictable as his medication schedule.  How hard it must be to go around the country touting a policy package that has thus far resulted in home mortgage and credit industry crisis, an endless war costing us lives, and dollars better spent at home, a healthcare system designed to benefit insurers and drug companies.  The best he can do is to say Obama hasn't explained how he'd pay for it:

The plan includes a $150 billion fund to promote and develop clean energy technology over 10 years -- which he says will create up to 5 million green jobs -- a $60 billion infrastructure fund and a $1 billion-a-year start-up fund for small and mid-size manufacturers to convert to clean technology. He would pay for this agenda through a cap-and-trade system that would auction permits for carbon dioxide emissions, a spokesman said.

McBush knows full well that after repealing Bush's tax cuts and ending this costly war, America can get to work solving America's problems.
It always amazes me that everything that Obama says is criticized.  First people say oh he is just giving speeches and there is no substance.. First you have to INSPIRE people so that they are interested.  The American people don't mind being activated to improve this great country.  I really enjoy the fact that everything Obama offers it comes with some personal investment by the American people.  He doesn't just say I am going to give you this and give you that.. No he says here is what I can do for you, if you can do this to help your country..

I haven't heard Hillary activate the American people like that.. like she doesn't understand that she cannot just have great policies that work with INTERESTED people to help push them through.. As the saying goes, PEER PRESSURE is a mutha!
Hey john Mc Cain from the Whitehouse, why are you afraid to use your real name. afraid someone might notice you as a closet racist.
I think that this is an example of why it's more likely than not that Obama will win.  The reality is that when truly pitted against McCain, some that didn't initially support Obama will come to his side because he is offering insight and solutions to some of our most challenging problems.
Why don't you just come out and say it, Howard?
Sounds like you are hiding some racist thoughts there. If I'm wrong, you could have provided some details as to WHY he is a swindler.
I think that's the scariest thing about this election with John McCain.
Racists will try to justify their vote in the general claiming anything except the real reason they would NEVER vote for a black candidate.
What I want to know is, how come Obama is always referred to as an African-American? Isn't he half WHITE too?
People rrreally need to start looking at the issues and not the color of someone's skin.

Obama 08
I'm a life-long Republican and McCain supporter, but some of the hateful comments about Sen. Obama are just unsettling. I will NOT vote for Obama in November, but I think he is a kind-hearted person who deserves respect like the rest of us. I can't for the life of me understand why some people (even those who claim to be Democrats) dislike the man so much. I can't understand it. What did he do that was so wrong, besides beat a Clinton?
This is how you bring jobs back to American and rebuild the middle class. When Obama is President he will be stand with WV. even though they did stand with him yesterday.
Thw white bitter people DO LIKE you Mr. Obama.
Hello people of FL & MI.. your ELECTED officials REPRESENT the PEOPLE.. Or have you forgot that since Hillary told you so..

And lastly dummies.. If you have been following politics lately you would KNOW that there is VERY LITTLE difference in the two Democratic candidates policies..  I tell ya, you UNEDUCATED, UNINFORMED and racist people really show your IGNORANCE in these type of situations..
Hillary broke the DNC rules.  SHe sighed an agreement saying that she wouldn't campaign in FL and MI and that the votes wouldn't count.  She is trying to get the votes to count. Why shouldn't Obama go after the delegates.  Hillary forces people to play  her dirty politics.  Obama didn't stop the funding.  Hillary was trying to buy votes. It was her campaign and supporters who were going to pay, not the party.  THese are the facts.  So are these.
First she said the popular vote didn't count, when she was ahead, now the popular vote counts.
Second she said FL and MI shouldn't count since they didn't follow the rules.
Third she said the number to win is not 2025 but 2209.
Fourth she needs more money and takes money from poor people  
Fifth, she didn't need the small states since they don't count. Now she needs ALL the states.
Sixth she said she is here for all Americans, now she only needs the white, blue collar, uneducated.
Seventh she is the canidate with the most experience, now she doesn't need to listen to economist, or and one else for that matter.
Eighth she said Obama is unelectable, now oh he is a great person.
Molly - Actually, I did decide when my state voted, because I elected officials who respected the rules.  If the people in MI and FL cared so much about their votes, why was there no outcry when the decision was made, and there was time to reverse it? it was given no value until one candidate realized that they needed those votes to win - but NONE of the candidates fought it at the time, and neither did the voters.

Fair is fair - the rules were made, and expectations are that they should be followed. Cheaters never win, after all.

And for the record, my parents now live in FL - they did not vote for a pres, as they knew it did not matter.  Counting the votes as they stand does not fairly represent anyone in either state.  
WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MI - Remember that state does NOT count - Remember - YOU YOU YOU Blocked a scheduled and funded re-Vote.  Maybe you Forgot - BUT the PEOPLE of FL & MI have NOT!
The obama supporters need to learn the FACTS and STOP saying - well - they broke the rules - the PEOPLE did not - the Party Leaders did!  Did YOU decide YOUR states vote date????
Molly (Sent Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:08 PM)
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no 'molly'...we don't....but guess what..we elect these people to represent us as a state....you forget that, don't you? if they don't represent you - then don't vote for them in the future...

how is it Obama's fault that MI and FL state representatives broke the DNC rules? stop reading just the Hillary/McCain talking points for a second and realize that this was a situation between MI/FL "leadership" and the DNC....how Obama factors in as a "vilian" is a falsehood...
To Molly:

Are you ignorant or stupid, possibly both?  If you did your research you would see that the Michigan senate blocked the RE-VOTE in Michigan not Sen. Obama.   Both Obama, and Clinton wanted a way for the votes to be counted.  Obama wanted it done fairly. Remeber, it was Clinton who said MI and FL had no right to move up their primary and said (when it did not matter) that their votes should not count.  

When Clinton realized that she was getting stomped by Obama only then was it okay for MI and FL to be counted.  

It amazes me that there are people in this country who are just plain stupid when it comes to research and knowledge.  

Per Ron White(comedian) "You can't fix Stupid".
Obama did not cause MI or FL to lose their votes; the leaders of those states did, so blame them not Obama. Clinton said "those states don't count" NOT Obama, now that the Clintons need those states they are blaming the trouble on Obama and hoping people are DUMB enough to believe. I don't think people are as dumb as Hillary and Bill say they are; but I could be wrong.
Whats he doing? > He's moving on to the general election. Billary and the primaries are over. The ppl of FLR screwed the country twice now and gave us these last 8 years of Bush. So no, "the country hasn't forgot". Who cares what FLR thinks its obvious they have poor judgement in leaders. So QQ

GGTY PEACE
I just deposited my ballot here in Oregon!!

WOOOOO HOOOOO

Everyone around here is so excited to vote for Obama!

We will shut Huckabee Hill down this coming Tuesday!!

I can't wait !!!!

GO OREGON
GO OBAMA
WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MI - Remember that state does NOT count - Remember - YOU YOU YOU Blocked a scheduled and funded re-Vote.  Maybe you Forgot - BUT the PEOPLE of FL & MI have NOT!
The obama supporters need to learn the FACTS and STOP saying - well - they broke the rules - the PEOPLE did not - the Party Leaders did!  Did YOU decide YOUR states vote date????

Molly (Sent Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:08 PM)

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Sorry Molly.  Obama didn't block any Michigan primary re-vote.  The Michigan government couldn't get its state congress to authorize it.

Please get the facts strait before you speak on our behalf.
Molly,  you are displaying the clear logic and reality most Clintonistas live in.  Barack did not block anything he only waited to hear the result of the MI legislature.  Don't fault Barack and the other dem candidates for following rules.  To help you and other Clintonistas here's a definition of the word "rule":

a. An authoritative, prescribed direction for conduct, especially one of the regulations governing procedure in a legislative body or a regulation observed by the players in a game, sport, or contest.
b. The body of regulations prescribed by the founder of a religious order for governing the conduct of its members.
His plan has been on his website all along...but he's a swindler anyway so why would you take the time to look?
The obama supporters need to learn the FACTS and STOP saying - well - they broke the rules - the PEOPLE did not - the Party Leaders did!  Did YOU decide YOUR states vote date????

Molly (Sent Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:08 PM)

Molly,

Maybe you should take your own advice. Clinton was part of your "party leaders" who agreed that they wouldn't count.

And by the way, he's not in Michigan for the primary. He is there for the general. You know, because he is the nominee.
Bitter twisted Bigots like you would not vot for Obama anyway.  But just because you don't vote for him does not mean he won't be your President!  In 2012 when you recognize how great he is you will be on that bandwagon and deny ever not being for him!  Unless of course you truly are a bitter racist!  In which case you should pack your bags and move on to your fantasy land of white supremacy!
Hey Molly, obviously you are clinton supporter why else would you bend the truth.  Obama was willing to accept a 69-clinton 59- obama delegates from Michigan and Hillary shot that down.  How can she justify taking the Michigan delegates when he was not on the ticket and just following the rules.  Clintons are dishonest and you are drinking their kool-aid.  
People should remember some of us out here actually know some things about these candidates.  That crap that comes via email shouldn't be repeated here.  Let's have legitimate dialogue please.
Howard:
I would strongly suggest that you educate yourself with facts before you use sound-bites like "Obama's green job plan is a xerox copy of Hillary's plan."  Read Obama's, Audacity of Hope.  These plans were introduced by him in 2006. Most Americans wait to be spoon fed information, then they spread their misinformed "knowledge" to others that are waiting to be spoon fed.  
The white bitter people of this country DON'T LIKE you Mr. Obama.

John McCain, The White House (Sent Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:08 PM)

You should be in a nursing home, Mr. McCain. Go get one of your lobbyists to change your diaper.
Mccain has nothing to offer America except more of the miserable failures of the ignorant cowboy administration.
Howard...I do so much agree with you. Obama just
copies ideas that Clinton announced more than
13 months ago......Leader???? I think not!!!
It is for reasons like this, that he has not
earned my vote
Great job Obama! Every day you look more and more presidential. This will be great to create jobs that Bill Clinton sent overseas. McCain is to old to come up with modern ideals.
Where was the Floridian and Michigan outrage the day before and the day after the vote there?  Not one Flordian or Michigander spoke up.  In fact, they went to the polls KNOWING it would not count. It is just as apparent that Hillary's supporters want these contests to count here only because she won as it is apparent that Barack's supporters dont want them to count because he lost.  The only difference is:  the rules are on Barack's side. Being an ex-Floridian (I grew up in Fort Lauderdale), I think there should have been a re-vote in FL. I dont think, however, Hillary's supporters would be so happy.   As for Michigan, come on, to me its just ridiculous. Hillary and her supporters seem to forget, Barack did offer a solution (50-50 split) that was curtly declined by the Clinton team.  So in true keeping with how HIllary operates, it is either her way or no way.  She encourages her supporters with mis-truths about it, making it seem like Barack was desperately trying to stop the seating of the delegates, when in fact he just doesnt want to be punked in the process.  Could you Floridians and Michiganders look at it from the perspective of the residents of the other states.  Your "big, powerful" states always get a say (almost to your folly-I'm talking to you Florida) and now when you have broken the rules selfishly, and now when for the first time in a long time states like WV, KY, OR, IN even PR and little Guam are getting their time in the sunshine, all you can cry about is me me me.  Give it a rest. What is FL and MI more important than anyone else?  Their delegates will be seated, we know Hillary won the states. She is not winning this competition, however. No matter how much she has deluded you (and I cant for the life of me figure out why you would support someone who deliberately misleads you, I think she would be no different than Bush or Cheney, telling us we are winning this stupid war, when we are not) into thinking she might, she will not. Please can we support our nominee and move on to the work we need to get accomplished in this country.
Obama never said that Michigan did not count.  That was Hillary.  He just followed the DNC rules and did not campaign or have his name on the ballot as he was instructed by the DNC!
Howard, If you haven't realized it yet, ALMOST ALL OF THEIR POLICIES ARE THE SAME! That's because they are both Democrats and their policies are all part of the Democratic platform. Calling Obama a swindler is like calling the entire Democratic Party swindlers.

BRILLIANT!
The question for Democrats and others concerned with the Democratic Party primary is then this — do you really want to let the worst-educated, least-knowledgeable and most bigotry-prone components of the voting pool (including those who stubbornly insist that Obama is a Muslim) control the direction of the party to the point of overriding the outcome in pledged delegates? Do you really want to give Hillary Clinton a pass in regards to her ignorantly racist supporters that you would never give to Obama in regards to Rev. Wright or Ron Paul in regards to Stormfront? And do you really want to say, as Hillary media proxy Paul Begala did, that a coalition that includes well-educated “eggheads” is somehow a bad thing?

Democrats used to promote education as a virtue to the point even of wanting to ridiculously overspend government dollars on it at every opportunity. But now a large part of the party obstinately insists that the educated are those that should be sneered at and ignored. In short, they have embraced the anti-intellectualism long present on the far right. And none of Hillary’s supporters seem to mind.
Molly

Fell off your rocker eh? The party in Michigan BLOCKED the revote, they chose not to do it, not Obama. If it wasn't for the selfish STATE Democratic leaders, those states wouldn't be in this position. Plus, in Florida, they tried to reverse their date but the Republicans down there blocked it knowing full well that it would eventually cause problems. Get your facts straight.
"YOU Blocked a scheduled and funded re-Vote"

Ummm...the state of Michigan blocked the revote as being illegal under their consitution. How about getting your facts straight.

The DNC established the rules. If you are a Democrat, you are part of the DNC. The DNC established the sanctions, the candidates signed in writting that they agreed. The people have no right to complain because their elected officials (whom they, through their votes empowered to do so) broke the rules. As such, the people are responsible for what the states did. However, the point is that those elections did not count by rule of the DNC.
John McCain believes that we can grow our economy and help workers by lowering taxes, ending wasteful spending, reducing health care costs, reforming our unemployment system and promoting energy independence.”


Why John McCain sound just like a Democrat.
Molly, the elections should not be bought and paid by one campaign... Its way too easy to for someone to claim that someone rigged the election...
Come on, you took high school civics you should know that
He can inspire the people of Michigan with new "green" jobs that will have them working for years to come because other countries (China, etc.)will be buying "American" cars because of gas saving technology. He will bring the folks of Michigan along. He is a real leader. Go Obama '08!
Miss Molly,

He is  not the only one who had conflicts with MI.  Hillary was apart of the fiasco.  Get your facts straight before you point fingers.


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