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McCain: I've got hope, too

Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:55 AM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Carrie Dann
COLUMBUS, OH -- An appeal for cooperation, an optimistic target date for troop drawdown, and a lofty call for post-partisan sweetness and light.

For McCain, Obama doesn't own hope.

In a news-rich speech this morning in the key swing state of Ohio, the Republican Party's nominee-to-be outlined his image of his own future presidency, including the prediction that -- by January 2013 -- the Iraq war will have been won and "most" of the troops in the region will have returned home. McCain also described a future administration marked by transparency, bipartisanship, selfless solutions, and measured debate.

Call it a much-needed re-branding of a Republican Party at its stomping saddest. After losing its third-straight special election on Tuesday -- and likely facing a Democratic Party steered by the candidate whose word-associations are all about change and hope -- the GOP's need for a pick-me up is no secret. (McCain acknowledged as much yesterday. "I have a lot of work to do," he told reporters when asked about the Mississippi loss. "I have no delusions that this campaign will be a very difficult challenge.")

VIDEO: McCain outlines what he hopes his presidency will look like by the end of his first term, if elected.

Today, McCain's promises for the future were sunny. Acknowledging that he "cannot guarantee" achievement of each goal, he went on to lay out a series of hopeful proposals for foreign and domestic policies: Within four years of his inauguration, he said, a new flatter tax will save Americans billions of dollars; the genocide in Darfur will be ending; the border will be secure; Osama bin Laden will be dead or captured; there will be more jobs and less obese kids; commander-in-chief McCain will be holding weekly press conferences; and Democrats will be a part of his administration.

The vision outlined this morning provided a marked -- if not explicit -- contrast to the status quo. (Note his promise, for example, that he will not "subvert the purpose of legislation I have signed by making statements that indicate I will enforce only the parts of it I like.")

The senator's wording on Iraq, in particular, has prompted a flurry of debate over whether the 2013 date implies a timetable for withdrawal. (Campaign aides say that Democratic timetables are not contingent on success in the war, whereas McCain's calendar provides a hopeful target but not an unconditional end date.)

But, in his remarks at the Greater Columbus Convention Center this morning, the greatest applause may have come during McCain's clarion call to cease and desist with partisan bickering. "This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end," he declared.

The applause was long and loud. But no cheers -- quite -- of "Yes, We Can."

*** UPDATE *** The DNC's Howard Dean responded with this statement: "The reality behind Senator McCain's new rhetoric is that his plans either ignore the problems he identifies or actually makes them worse. Whether he is taking President Bush's fiscal policies to new extremes, continuing a stay-the-course strategy in Iraq that has distracted from the real war on terror, or pretending he would bring transparency to government after refusing to even release his own tax records, Senator McCain found yet another way to show he's the wrong choice for America's future."

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I'll bet he hopes Bush shuts his stupid mouth and stops trying to help.
His presidential "hopes" for the future include an end to the Darfur genocide and less obese children?

This is from the candidate? Because it sounds more like an SNL parody of what a candidate might say. Next thing we'll hear how McCain is an avid supporter of motherhood.
McCain is lost
Can someone please show him to his room, in The Group Home.
The more he speaks, the more he sounds feeble !

AND BUSH ! .. wtf
Overseas? common ..
KEEP PARTISAN POLICIES IN THE U.S

WHAT AN IDIOT
In the words of Chris Matthews, "HA." McCain you are 70 something years old and you are waking up every morning.  I'm hoping that you have hope.  So yes, Obama did not coin the word hope, but I know someone who has coined a 100 year war.  100 year war, oh my...say that a few times...Yes, you can!
though a democrat, I do find some of his proposals appealing. The weekly conferences, as well as something akin to the Prime minister's questions, these innovations suggest a degree of transparency and engagement lacking in the present administration. I am curious as to Obama's response. Hopefully he does not reject them out of hand.
Is he for real?  He is as guilty of partisan bickering - sign the freaking GI Bill Mr. McCain!
Well said senator McCain, your presidency will be great!
I don't get it.  How can you inspire people with that agenda?  Even when you're only proposing the best case scenarios.

Come on McSame, ramp up the terrorist stuff already.  Keep on the line that democrats are nothing but terrorists in fancy suits elected by the American people.  I want to really be offended, come on McSame you can do better than that!
Well,well,well.  Sounds like the repubs are getting nervous!  Good, they should.  Mr. McCane should also know that I for one do not believe anything he says now or will ever say in the future.  Senator Obama is the only one who will keep his word about bringing the troops home-now.  The democratic party is gearing up to stampede the polling booths this November with a vote for change-serious real change.  

If McCain were actually president in 2012, he would be predicting the withdrawal of troops from Iraq beginning in 2017.
McCain and Bush do more for Obama's campaign, than any ad campaign could.  
It must be sad to be John McCain.

He waited so long to be the "Hope" and "Change" candidate.

It's hard to be that when you are married to the Bush Administration.

ALSO, THOSE OF YOU ANGRY THAT HILLARY WON'T WIN, THINK ABOUT A FUTURE THAT INCLUDES 4 MORE YEARS OF REPUBLICAN DEFACTO POLITICS.

THINK ABOUT HOW WELL OFF YOU ARE NOT RIGHT NOW.

ASK YOURSELF WHY YOU WOULD CUT OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE.

DON'T LET EMOTIONS RULE YOU...

SOME OF YOU DID THAT 4 YEARS AGO, AND LOOK AT YOUR LIVES NOW.
McSame "can not guarantee" acheivement of each goal because my best guess is, he can not remember each goal with the daily flip flop he is engaged in.
"Yes, we can" see you have hope. Otherwise you would not running for President as the Republican candidate. Some might call it hopeless, but we need some entertainment. Please deliver more of these I am your green candidate speeches. We will laugh to the voting booth. We have very little else to laugh about with the soldiers dying in Iraq and high gas prices and the mortgage crisis.

But we are not going to be fooled by these rhetoric.


Yeah McCain "HOPES" he doesn't die before the General Election
and how does this fantastic future come about?  is he suggesting his vision of stay the course abroad and domestically gets us there?  fat chance.  his prescription has failed America miserably.  
Well McCain, you now have the road to the White House since the Dems will be nominating another unelectable candidate.  Make it count!

McCain 08!
What would be a good start is the Impeachment of bush and cheney.  Now thats where you begin with change
Hey, McBush, how about ending YOUR "mindless, paralyzing rancor"? You have been following the Rove Political Capaigning Handbook of how to say waht the people want to hear & then conveniently "forgetting" your promises on Inaugeration Day!
That's some killer Kool-Aid McBush is brewing up!

Quick, pass some to Patty - we know she'll love it!!
Hmmmm, looks like he got the "become the change candidate" memo from the RNC.

Riddle me this . . . what is the advantange of another 4 years and 4000 dead in Iraq? What is going to change? Why are arbitrary dates okay now when the Republicans claimed they would ruin our National Security?

The Repblican Party is selling America another bill of goods.
Throughout the Republicans' five year insanity that is the war in Iraq, there was a consistent unwillingness to indicate the end of the war; claiming that timetables were "unrealistic". Now he embraces "timetables"?
Right. Remember he was the one who announced "Mission Accomplished" when Bush II staged that ridiculous stunt on the Carrier off the coast of San Diego. And now we should believe him? He of the "100 year war comment? This man who doesn't know the difference between the Sunnis and Shiites? This man who spread the outright LIE that Al Qaeda was in Iraq before our ill fated invasion for oil?
We are supposed to believe this doddering charlatan?  Even the Vietnam vets that served with him don't believe him:  
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/index.htm
Now we are supposed to take his word while his lobbyist advisers do business with totalitarian dictatorships like Myanmar? We are supposed to "take his word for it" when his wife is readily making blood money in Sudan?
John McCain is the most corrupt, bought and paid for politician in the U.S. Government. I don't trust him or his wife on any issue; he hasn't earned America's trust.
I have hope too...but not for many of the things the Republicans hope for.
McCain sees that the majority of the public wants out of Iraq, so I guess the idea of the 100 year occupation is scrapped.  

Obama '08  
And why are we suppose to believe he means any of this.  Change is not what he really wants, only what we the people want to hear.  If a Republican is elected, they will continue to the changes they want.  More tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, that our country can ill afford.  Short-term greediness, while they sell out our childrens' futures. More spending on WARS!  And in 3 years when we aren't winning in Iraq, McCain will still be saying we must stay until we win.  Meanwhile, everyone in our country will be using a horse and buggy because Gas costs do much.  You can't just suddenly say you are for change, and expect any intelligent people to believe it.
Flip-flopper!!! Biter!! all words that describe McBush!!! First he is willing to stay in for an undeterminable time now he thinks he can win the war in 4 years. How does he prpose to do that and with waht troops. Oh that's right maybe he will institute the draft. By the way if Mcshame should happen to win, he will have no choice but to include dems b/c they will be the overwhelming majority in congress.
Now that the tide has turned on them, the Republicans call for an end to partisanship.  For Seven years, I've listened to how my beleif in civil rights is fanatical Left Wing Extremism, how my conviction that the war in Iraq is wrong is Un-American, how my disgust at the unconstitutional tactics of the Bush-Rove presidency is Un-Patriotic, how my anger at a rigged economy that steals from the middle-class to give to the rich is Communist propaganda, and how the blatantly obvious failures of this presidency is just Liberal Elitism.

The Republicans have pushed anyone with a brain and a voice out into the political wilderness, and desecrated everything this country stands for.  Now that they're being punished for it, they want to call for an end to partisanship?

Better get a GPS, GOP, cause it's gonna be a long few decades wandering in the political woods for the lot of you.  Good Riddence.
Did he have on a flag lapel pin?
Of course no cheers of "Yes We Can" -- the people applauding don't have to go an extra step further to make believe their candidate is a champion. That's the only reason Obama supporters are so excited ... when people have nothing left to make them feel like their part of something big, they'll find something. And they'll make themselves believe it's true. And right now Obama supporters reading my comment are thinking "But it IS true!"

If that's so, if you really think so, I'm not asking for a reply, just a favor. Name for me, to yourself, aside from the WORDS "Hope" and "Change," Obama's platforms. How does his health plan work? What changes to taxes does he advocate? What has he ever done to reach across the aisle? What specific plan does he have for immigration? Does he have anything in mind to change education away from No Child Left Behind? What are his military funding (or reduction) interests?

---- If you at any point need Google or Wikipedia for SPECIFIC answers (not just "reduce it" or "fix it") to any of those questions, then you and your candidate aren't as special as you think you are. Because all you know is "Hope" and "Change."

And please don't send me back a bunch of Obama platforms, that's not the point of this post.
Here's how it ended : "The applause was long and loud. But no cheers -- quite -- of "Yes, We Can." "

Wow, good thing they're not biased to Obama...

Less fat kids?  Is he seriously suggesting something he can do is going to help this problem?  I have to agree with an earlier poster.  This sounds like an SNL skit and not an actual political speech.  Thats just sad.
I thought the Iraq war was "Mission Accomplished" back in 2003.

It's been an occupation since then, and it's one that McCain said not 6 months ago would be okay for 100 years as long as "no Americans are being killed or wounded".

Make no mistake, John McCain has no intention of ending this occupation. Bush has kept telling us he needs 6 more months. Just 6 more months. If you think John McCain offers anything different, you have lost your bearings more than he has.
So that's why the Ohio air smelled of old people when I woke up today. I do wish McCain wouldn't promise a sunny future, as from August to November we got very little rain here and not many people want the same thing to happen again.

Then again, McCain's idea of sunny is probably my idea of thunderstorms.

a new flatter tax will save Americans billions of dollars
--Aren't you just so flattered?

the genocide in Darfur will be ending
--As long as everything goes according to plan

the border will be secure
--Because we believe in the next three years cloning will give us the ability to clone so many McCains that anyone crossing illegally will be punched into orbit.

Osama bin Laden will be dead or captured
--We're going to inject chemicals into Kiefer Sutherland so he actually BECOMES Jack Bauer

there will be more jobs and less obese kids
--We're going to shut down McDonald's and pretend we didn't shut down thousands of jobs in the process

commander-in-chief McCain will be holding weekly press conferences
--We'll even pull him out of his coffin every week after his death

Democrats will be a part of his administration.
--Because we consider the servants in the White House members of the administration.

6,000 troops will be dead
--But it's okay, because Osama's life is actually worth MORE than the lives of over 10,000 Americans.

Robots will be dispatched to inform the military mothers and wives
--If they can direct an entire orchestra, surely they can say "Your son and/or daughter is dead. I am very sorry."


So when McCain replaces Bush all of America will line the streets singing "I Can See Clearly Now"? Then two minutes and forty-five seconds later we can come inside, turn on the TV and find out six people have been killed in a roadside bomb, and then we'll all come back down to earth and realize nothing has actually changed.
Dear Tim, Mobile:

Clearly you don't care about Senator Obama's positions, however, I will point out the most important one:

HE WILL BRING OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ HOME!

Any questions?

Obama '08/'12
Remember, though, that Bush promised a"humble" foreign policy free of nation-building, and to "grow the economy". Promise the proles anything, but give them more of the same.
On a day when McCain hoped to begin re-branding the party, President Bush makes the story all about himself. McCain and the Republicans in Congress have to be thrilled! The President is stuck in his past glory, failing to realize that every time he opens his mouth he helps the Democrats.
Has your candidate paid his fees to the creators of Bob the Builder yet?  Its interesting that there slogan is from a childrens program and most of his supporters are pretty much just like those kids.
While they have some education they have no intelligence or common sense.  I mean seriously they've been in school all their lives and now they're telling us what the reality of life is? LMAO.  Come out of your ivory tower world and smell the bills that your parents have been paying for you.

Only naive inexperienced people would support an inexperienced fairy tale selling con man like obama.
Tim, Mobile
You have nailed it.
Much better off with 100 years in Iraq and bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Did he have on a flag lapel pin?
Nashville_fan (Sent Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:16 PM)

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Well of course the hypocritic flip flopping panderer wears a flag pin now.
Mr. McSame,

Mr. Leiberman is not a democrat. try again.
Nice words. Much like Nixon in 1968 about ending the Vietnam War.  He did nothing for more than 4 years with the result the same as if he would of pulled us out in 1969.  All it cost was thoandss of lives in the interim and a loss of U.S. Prestige. Tie this to Cowboy Bush comments today and we see the pattern.  McCain talks about change but allows Bush to continue the same failed policies and smear words wihtout MCain commenting.

Nice try McCain/Bush but you can not have it both ways.  
Obama supporters please stop the fear mongering about the Supreme court and rove vs wade being overturned.

It only makes you look Republican.

-patty, sd, ca

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Patty, it's not fear-mongering, it's the truth.  McCain said in his speech that he will appoint Supreme Court Judges like Samuel Alito, John Roberts, and the late William Rehnquist (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_9I0mMEMAKQ) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=G7bQdEiZLK4&feature=related).  Last time I checked, they DISAGREED with Roe v. Wade.  And with the elderly Democratic judges likely to leave soon, McCain will be able to appoint these types of judges.  "As a lawyer in the administration of President Bush's father, John Roberts wrote a Supreme Court brief that said, "We continue to believe that Roe (v. Wade) was wrongly decided and should be overruled."" (http://www.ontheissues.org/Court/John_Roberts_Abortion.htm).  Lots of other civil rights accomplishments will likely be overturned.  It's clear to us that if the nominee is not Hillary, then you're voting Republican, even though Senator Obama won fair and square because he had a strategy for after Super Tuesday (Senator Clinton's campaign has acknowledged that they did not because they expected her to wrap up the nomination that day) and he has managed his campaign and his campaign finances better.  People keep saying all we have to do is beat Senator Clinton but we have.  We have won more states, more pledged delegates, more super delegates, and more of the popular vote.  It's a clear choice in November: You either vote for a continuation of the war in Iraq and the deaths of more soldiers and billions spent over there  instead of here in America, an increase in the deficit, 40 million plus people continuing without health care, judges that will overturn civil rights accomplishments, and tax cuts for the very wealthy (even Warren Buffet said he doesn't need them and shouldn't have them) or you vote for the opposite.  The economy went south under President Bush's watch, the foreclosure crisis happened under President Bush's watch, the rising cost of oil and therefore gas happened under his watch, American soldiers lost their lives and the U.S. military became strained and overworked under his watch, and the deficit occurred under his watch.  President Bush and John McCain share the same foreign and economic policy.  McCain even now agrees with Bush that waterboarding is not torture though he originally said it was.  Never mind that John McCain was tortured as a prisoner of war.  We hope you'll be on the side of change but if not just don't be upset when you're not on the winning side in November.  And if by some sliver of a chance John McCain does win in November, know that you helped give America a 3rd Bush term.
John McCain owns "8 or 9" homes. He can't even remember which it is. He owns "8 or 9" homes, and he wants to keep giving people like him more tax cuts so they can buy a 10th or 11th.

Don't be fooled when McCain is offering more tax cuts. He's not offering them to you. He's offering them to CEOs who are screwing you out of pensions. These tax cuts don't save YOU billions of dollars. They save MILLIONAIRES billions of dollars, and YOUR CHILDREN will pay for them.

And after all that, his plan for making healthcare more affordable is to get rid of employer-based insurance. Seriously!? We can't all have a Navy pension AND comprehensive insurance from Congress, Mr. McCain.

And don't give me that boloney about non-partisanship. The only ideas you will listen to are ones that are cooked up by your Rovian sycophants. Bush "listened" to his generals on the ground and that didn't get us anywhere.

You are a hack, Mr. McCain. You are a Bush-like wolf in sheep's clothing. You are offering nothing but more debt for our children, more death in Iraq, more death in Iran, less help for our soldiers here at home, less help for families who need it; more help for millionaires who don't, and all with a "My friends" and two thumbs up.

For the sake of our survival, DO NOT elect this man.
McCain is got hope? Hope from what? Endless war in Iraq or tax cut for the wealthy... They guy is a total joke.
McCains got hope that is funny considering he mocked having hope early on in his campaign!!  Yeah he's got hope the press doesn't cover him to close and catch him on all of his gaffes.
For those of you who aren't blinded by your Obama love, try and listen to what McCain has to say.  Instead of painting him as nothing but an old guy, open up your mind and realize that he's had a tremendous ability to work in a non-partisan fashion for years.  He doesn't have the presence Obama does, but the change he offers is not that different from what Obama claims he can bring.  I'll stand back for the mudslinging on that comment.
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!

Are we hearing about milestones and benchmarks?
This cannot be true

Will Rushbo start calling him "Cut and Run McCain or Slow bleed John"
And to think....there are actually people that are going to vote for this guy.

http://www.politivine.com
All these uncalled for nasty, rude and slimmy comments are probably coming from Obama backers.  Sounds like all the crap they called Hillary.  You all ought to be ashamed.  I thought your candidate was a 'nice guy' but he's attracting some real trash.


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