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HRC: Bush comments 'offensive'

Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:45 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli
RAPID CITY, S.D. -- Hillary Clinton joined the chorus of Democrats who have criticized President Bush's comments about Barack Obama, saying that his comparison "of any Democrat to Nazi appeasers is both offensive and outrageous."

"This is the kind of statement that has no place in any presidential address, and certainly to use an important moment like the 60th anniversary celebration of Israel to make a political point seems terribly misplaced," Clinton told reporters after landing at the airport here.

She also tied John McCain to the president, saying that in his speech this morning he offered no new strategy on Iraq.

"I think today we've had two examples of why this country is going to be voting for a Democratic president," she said. "I hope people really look seriously at both President Bush's comment and Sen. McCain's speech and realize that the only way we're going to restore our leadership and our moral authority and deal with the very real challenges we face in the world is by electing a Democratic president, and I believe that I am the stronger candidate against Sen. McCain."

One of the earliest flashpoints between Obama and Clinton was on this issue of meeting with the heads of unfriendly governments. Clinton attempted to differentiate her past criticisms from those the president voiced today.

"I disagree that any president would ever meet with a leader of a country with which we had such deep and profound differences as Iran, for example," she said. "However I believe there should be diplomatic engagement, which President Bush has resisted from the very beginning. So I think I have more in common with Sen. Obama and the Democratic position in our understanding of what we have to do to re-engage with the world."

Clinton, traveling between stops in South Dakota, also reacted to the endorsements of Obama by John Edwards, NARAL, and a still-growing number of superdelegates. She said Edwards' support may help the Illinois senator in Kentucky, but seemed more comfortable talking about Elizabeth Edwards, who hasn't endorsed but has praised Clinton's health care plan. Clinton actually disclosed that she hasn't spoken with John Edwards, but did talk to his wife.

"I'm not talking about my private conversations, but I think she's done a great deal to promote what is one of the most important issues we have," she said. "I don't think a Democratic nominee for president should have any position other than universal healthcare. … There are different ways of getting there, but you've got to remain committed to universal healthcare, and Elizabeth Edwards and I agree."

After the brief press conference, Clinton made her way to a local donut shop to greet some voters. She now heads to Los Angeles, where she'll host a series of fundraising get-togethers tonight. Tomorrow she begins a two-day visit to Oregon.

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I agree, his comments were totally uncalled for and a little hypocritical if you ask me.

But hey, what do you expect from our nation's worst president ever???

http://www.politivine.com
oooookkkaaaay?!?
History has shown time and time again that appeasement does not work...

Will we learn our lesson?
OBAMA SUPPORTERS: MUST READ
I am a staunch Obama supporter. There were many reasons I did not support HRC. But, fellow Obama supporters, fellow Democrats, please stop with the HRC jokes and bashing. She is one of us. She is a fellow Democrat. She is still a leader in our party and we should be thanking her for helping make Obama a better candidate, and our party stronger for the General Election. Enough already. If you say you support Barack then take heed to his example as the leader of our party.....
"So I think I have more in common with Sen. Obama and the Democratic position in our understanding of what we have to do to re-engage with the world."

I am applauding you Senator Clinton.  Hooray!!!  

Vote Democrat!!!  
Interesting sentiments, but can one see the amount of backtracking from the previous year?  How does that jive with VP.

Interesting sentiments from Sen. Clinton, she actually sounds quite rational and sincere to me.
Now that's what we want to hear from Hillary.  About time she said something nice about Barack.  I'm glad she's now taking aim at our true enemies, "NeoNazis" Bush/McCain.  Had she thrown her kitchen sink  at "Panderer" McCain and "Warmonger" Bush from the beginning she may well have won the nomination.

Go Obama 08/12!
Hillary, it's over. You lost, fair and square.  Even you have to admit you had every advantage and you lost.  Let's move on.  As a woman I want equality--not special treatment.  Please stop dividing the party by claiming Obama had something to do w/FL & MI.  You know he didn't--tell your supporters the TRUTH!!!
If Clinton and the Democrats fought as hard against the terrorists in the '90s as they are doing against the truths Bush told today, the world would be a safer place and the twin towers would still be standing.
Hit a little nerve there, ehh Dummycrats?
Good Job Hillary we need you on the Obama team, welcome aboard let's all work together to get rid of the anti-christ Karl Rove and the GOP.
Bush planned exactly what he said today in his speech. AND now for the grande finale' -Osama Bin Laden!  Wow, quiet all this time and viola!  Isn't it amazing that Bush can't find him, but he can find us every dern election year?  Surely no one is buying this crap.  It makes me even more determined to vote for Senator Obama.
Good Job Hillary we need you on the Obama team, welcome aboard on the Obama team. Let's all work together to get rid of the anti-christ Karl Rove and the GOP.
Lets get Obama elected, Jimmy Carter in as Sec. of State and a do-over for Madeline Albright. I feel safer already!
Philip wrote this in response to Vietor on another post:
Vietor:

When did Kennedy unconditionally sit down with Castro?
When did Reagan unconditionally sit down with Gorbachev?
When did Carter unconditionally sit down with the Ayatollah during the hostage crisis?
When did Bill Clinton sit down with Milosevic?

Diplomacy great, but to give up unconditionally the prestige of the presidency and the office, 110% absolutely no!


Hmm, let me see: Cuba, great relationship there; Russia, Iran and Serbia, even better.  Our relationship with Cuba threatens national security. Wet foot/dry foot policy (Clintonian) is a serious loophole.  Russia just had a huge show of military pomp--wonder what thats for? I wont even speak about Iran. And Serbia, yeah, just peachy keen.  What are you so afraid of?  That we might actually succeed and not have to be wrapped up in Middle eastern wars anymore? Damn
Face facts. Obama doesn't have a clue about much of anything, much less on how to deal with terrorism. The man is a complete moron, and only the fact he's some kind of goofy media creation keeps him in the limelight. Obama is a corrupt product of the political machine out of Chicago. He barely knows how to vote on bills for filling in pot-holes on the streets let alone on how handle Hamas. No amount of screaming from the Democrats is going cover up how inadequate this man is.
Almost as offensive as a gas tax holiday....?

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Hard working white voters

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blue collar (lower educated) workers

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Silly Politics

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Flag pins

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your husband
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"This is the kind of statement that has no place in any presidential address, and certainly to use an important moment like the 60th anniversary celebration of Israel to make a political point seems terribly misplaced," - HRC

Hillary - what a brilliant thing to point out.  I've been thinking to myself all day that an international address was hardly the forum to exhibit US political infighting.  What a horrible statesman George W. has shown himself to be today.  It's disgusting and I'm glad you called him out on that. "Terribly misplaced" - wonderfully chosen words!
Let me applaud Senator Clinton for coming out against President Bush's pathetic, disgraceful, and false attack on those who believe that conflicts can and should be resolved through strong diplomacy.

Let me also try and preempt any unseemly attacks by my fellow Obama supporters. I am disturbed by the attacks that have been leveled toward Senator Clinton, who has fought a hard fight and deserves some respect no matter what anyone may think of her tactics. Also, we need her, and we need her supporters, so please stop insulting her and them. Vehement attacks go against what our candidate stands for and rob us of any justification for reprimanding those who unfairly attack Obama. Our candidate has always talked about getting past the petty bickering that divides us, let's walk that talk and be respectful of Senator Clinton and her supporters no matter what they may say about us or our candidate.
The Democrats are the poorest excuses I've ever seen for protecting the country. Bill Clinton was too busy scoping out the talent in the White House intern pool to be bothered with any terrorist threats. The  previous Democratic president, James Earl Carter was busy boycotting the Olympics while our civilian citizens were being held hostage. Now we have Barack H. Obama, the second coming of Jimmy Carter. People of the US, make certain to stay out of any tall buildings if Obama ever lucks into being president.
George W. Bush is an idiot.  A REPUBLICAN idiot.  Remember come November that GWB was elected by the GOP.  How about filling up that gas tank just before you vote. Back when the Democrats were in office it cost 1/4 of that  to fill up.  It is a Republican utopia, I mean recession.
You know Barack, "Hope" and "Change" works with the elitist latte drinking snobs in the US, but doesn't really set too well with these terrorists. They're best dealt with by them having to look down the barrel of a gun.
I'm an Obama supporter. And I have to say, Go Hillary!  Nicely done.  I have always liked her, and I am disprited by all the back and forth trash talk on the comments here on the msnbc website from supporters on both sides.

This time, she got it right.  She is a good democrat at heart.  I hope she continues this as a trend of supporting the likely nominee and helps take down the Republicans which should be all of our top priority, not beating each other up.
Obama Nation, It's time to end the  battle with the Clintons.
Lets let them heal and sonn we will welcome them on our side in the war against McCain/McSame/ McBush.

The fierce urgency of now

OBAMA NATION member since 2004
Firstread, please post Jack B. Johnson's delegate switch from Clinton to Obama.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-mddelegate0515,0,5558212.story

Pledged delegate! Not a super! This is a huge deal!
Hillary, what is "Offensive" and "Outrageous" was your husbands administrations complete lack of recognition and handling of the growing terrorist threat to this country during the '90s. He should have been impeached retro-actively for that alone.
Universal HealthCare = Universal Suffering
Seriously Hillary you are the one who started all the dirty moves and Pdt Bush himself since he had not much to say used it. Surely it is a mistake for Bush to introduce other nations in our privacy but Bush and McSame just like Hillary are doing ANYTHING to win.
doesnt matter.  I used to hate the clintons, now I love them.  She is going to lose, but she shown you have 2 flawed candidates.  My man Mccain will win and we can get some consevative values back.  Including punishing women for the murder of children (roe v wade).  And without the healthcare I can keep my tax dollars instead of paying for everyone to have it.  We are capitalist...not socialist.  survival of the fitest, and thanks to Hillary we will have that for four more years.
really glad to see HRC is coming to Obama's defense.  i think this could be the beginning of "soft landing" exit as candidate.  
What's interesting is how the comments turn more conservative after 5pm. Those people are getting home from work, whereas the people that post all day are liberal and apparently unemployed.
Well it's nice to see her supporting Obama but she did have to add that "I'm better against McCain" comment.  

The bottom line is that even counting FL & Michigan, she would have to get 77% in the remaining contests to get more pledged delegates.  She didn't even do that in West Virginia.  Terry McCauliffe finally admitted that they are counting on the Superdelegates to overturn Obama's majority of the pledged delegates.  I hope all Hillary Clinton's supporters understand that.  

Although I understand that Hillary Clinton's supporters are frustrated and disappointed, today's comments from President Bush illustrate how important it is that the Democratic Party come together to stop John McCain.  I know it is tempting to react to the nomination process by turning around and supporting John McCain.  However I really hope Hillary Clinton's supporters base their decision on what is best for this country not their personal feelings.  For more than 5 years I have watched the young soldiers and their families make heroic sacrifices.  We owe it to them to really look at the issues before voting.  We should be thinking of them above all else.  
Good for her.  I'm an Obama supporter, but I would vote for Senator Clinton if she got the nomination.  Her comments about Bush's remarks were spot on, and showed that there is much greater contrast between any Dem and a third Bush term than there is between the Democratic candidates themselves.
I think Bush should know, being that Prescott Bush was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman, which traded with Nazi's during WWII, and had their assets seized by the U.S. Government.
We had "deep and profound differernces" with Soviet Russia. Our differences with a country like Iran are not nearly as significent as our leaders would lead us to believe(no al-quaida in Iran, women can drive and vote) unlike most of the sunni nations.  Anyway, Reagan met with the Soviets, as did many of Reagan's predecessors...and when he said, "...Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall...", he did.  End of story.  Diplomacy works.  We should try it sometime.
If you have any doubt how strong Obama is this is proof. Obama is fighting Hillary, Bill, McCain, and now the President of the United States. If this is not a strong man, I do not know who is. And, he doing a great job.  Obama '08/12
Yeah, It's now official - Hillary upset about comments. And why do we care if she is upset?  You know what, call my grandmother to see if she is upset, it holds about as much weight...
Intersting how she tied in Elizabeth Edwards - very interesting!
Being an Obama supporter I have spent the better part of the last year disgusted by the actions of Clinton and her staff during this campaign. But now that she is obviously looking at the bigger picture and starting to fall in line with the idea that the good of the Democratic party is more important than her own personal goals I can't wait to see her out on the trail backing Obama. For now let her continue to campaign so that she can raise money to pay off her huge debts but after that we have to (gulp) follow her lead and unite together. Anyone with thoughts of voting for McCain in spite of Obama needs to step back and think of how much they like the direction of the country the last 7 years.
Well said Hillary!
Aren't Bush's statements attacks on HRC also.  She deosn't agree with BO that the president should meet with Iranian leaders, but she does favor diplomacy towards them with cabinet members meeting with their leaders.  Whereas Bush, apparently, doesn't agree with diplomacy at all.
Come now, First Read -- Senator Clinton did not need to "attempt to differentiate" her comments from President Bush's.  First, President Bush made his political comments in front of the Knesset in Israel.
Second, President Bush made a hyperbolic absurd comparison to one of history's worst, most evil men.
Whatever I might think of Senator Clinton's actions during this campaign, she has NEVER done either of these things.

Thank you Senator Clinton for standing up for Senator Obama on this one.  Democrats, Independents and Republicans please unite behind Senator Obama so that we can finally right our ship of state after the last 7+ years of incompetence and corruption!

Obama '08!  Yes we can!!!
It amazes me how BO gets away with this one. He has advocated meeting with The leader of Iran who recently referred to Israel as a stinking corpse. If he thinks negotiation is the way to go stand up, be a man and say so. Carville had it right when he said that Hillary should lend Obama one of her testicles so they could both have two. Maybe instead of the audacity of hope he should have entitled his book the fear of defending my own ideas.
By golly, I read the comments and saw no mention of Democrats, Obama, Clinton,or even Jimmy Carter. Obviously there is some paranoia here! Or our these whiners just guilty as hell?
chris matthews is a loser like the rest of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillary, you did good.

Obama, I can't wait until you're our president.

The world must be embarrassed for us.
Let the unifying begin. Five minutes of George Bush will always expose those who still say they won't vote for Obama as the diehard Republicans they always were.

The prize: Democratic landslide in November!!!
Sometimes President Bush's actions border on the bizarre. Thank goodness we are almost done with him.
I'm beginning to notice an interesting pattern: The Clinton campaign starts to sound like they are ready to reconcile and accept that this is ending.  Then the MSM reports it.  Then - almost reflexively - they go back to the old talking points.

I wish we could do an experiment, whereby the next time this cycle begins, the media doesn't mention it.  Just to see what happens.
The Knesset is not the time nor the place to air US political policy infighting.  It's shameful.  Bush is not only a horrible CINC - he's a horrible statesman.  Hillary is spot on with her remarks!  Bravo, Hillary!


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