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Bush adviser: Dem reactions 'unjustified'

Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:33 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's John Yang
On Air Force One, not on camera, Bush counselor Ed Gillespie said the White House "did not anticipate" the reaction of congressional leaders to the Knesset speech, which he called "unjustified and unwarranted."

He said he was "surprised and curious" by the reaction. He noted that the president was restating long-standing policy. He challenged House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joe Biden to "point to" a sentence "that they would say is reckless or outrageous."

He did not address Sen. Barack Obama's comments, saying, "We are happy to allow for Sen. Obama and others to express their own points of view" on dealing with Syria and Iran.

He acknowledged that the reference to Sen. Borah's comments about Hitler were included in the remarks because of the setting. He said the Knesset was an "audience where an understanding of taking the words of someone like Hitler seriously the distinction between good and evil is an important one."

*** MORE *** Gillespie went out of his way to say that he was speaking of the reaction from congressional leaders, specifically Pelosi and Biden.

Administration officials never dissuaded me from the idea that they believe Obama is included in the category of people the president described. They also stressed he was not the only one in that category and that they were not specifically targeting Obama.

While officials may have been "surprised" by the specific reaction, they had been touting the speech for days and even took the unusual step for this administration of releasing an advance text.

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Bush's timing of his statement was inappropriate, plain and simple.

As for appeasment...seems the Repukes are more guilty of that than the Dems...how many countries did the repukes, such as Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Bush I, and perhaps even Eisenhower, permit dictatorships to take over certain countries that were otherwise about to be taken over by communists?  

Sick of republican corruption and hypocracy and just plain old stupidity!
"...someone like Hitler."

These guys just don't get it, do they? Silly Bush, Trix are for kids and responsible discussion is for adults. Y'all might want to stick more with Trix.
"did not anticipate"...

Can we have a listing of all the other things they did not anticipate (I'll start with the Iraqi people reaction to our presence there, and then next I'll add, the American people disapproval of this War...)?  Who's next?

And can we then talk about what they should have BEEN ABLE to anticipate (uh, this reaction)...

Honestly, perhaps Bush should step aside for the next 9 mos, if his people are that out of it.  Oh, that's right Cheney's the VP.  Lesser of two evils, uh, that's a hard one.

Ugh.
"We are happy to allow for Sen. Obama and others to express their own points of view"

King George is so magnanimous...
Typical ostrich syndrome.  This administration refuses to acknowledge that the American people are counting the days until they are gone.  This administration is a stain on the reputation of a once loved and respected country.  Bush has managed to make America one of the most hated and laughed at countries in the world with his lack of vision and arrogance.
Think this is called back pedaling!
OK, stick with me on this one...a singer can't go to another country and criticize the bushie policies but bush can go to a foreign country and criticize others in the US government (after all, congress is a co equal branch)...and what is really unpatriotic is pictures of bush hugging and holding hands with the state sponsors of terrorism in Saudi arabia
God are they dumb. McCain expanded on what Bush said and mentioned Obama, by name, on his Straight Talk, I Am An Old Man, Confused Express.
My Fellow Americans:

Lend me your ears.  How much of a shame it has become that the leader of the free world decides to wage war on his own country.  

To land in a foreign country and blast negative comments towards another part of it's own government.

This is admonition in the worst form; some could wonder if it's treason.  Will, maybe that's a bit too far...but yet one can think about it.

Then I think to myself ..what a mess the attackers of 911 has created.  The terrorists has already won.  

They used two weapons - planes and fear.  Their purpose as far as I knew, they wanted to strike the symbols of our might.  WTC and the Pentagon...Financial Power and Military Might.  

Their goal was for our destruction and to destroy our way of life.  

They are accomplishing that; but not by themselves, but with the help and the mighty power of fear.

It was fear that caused the Republican Party to strip us of how liberties; it was fear that caused them to wage war on 1 country and then another.

It was fear that caused this administration to ease drop on it's our people...to develop the Patriot Act has an excuse to quail and prevent any Patriotic American from spreading the truth and the nasty well of the GOP.

Fear was used as the weapon by the GOP to monopolies the oil prices; thereby the gas and food prices...then there is greed. The terrorist knows who greedy we can become. so the GOP continued to use fear, to use as a calices to change, create or ignore laws that would or would not benefit the GOP and it's base  

No terrorist organization...caused millions in our country not to have healthcare.   Nor, did they cause the gas and food prices to go up.  Nor did they misled us and lie to us. Nor did they take our liberties, nor did they create Abdu Grub (the terrorist prison) nor did they allow hundreds of thousands to lose their home; tens of thousands to lose their jobs, nor did they invade a country and are responsible for thousands of death.. Nor did they cause the deficit to break records and will become a liability to our children and their children.

Nor did the overstretch our military and caused them to be weaker more than ever before;

There are plenty more the GOP has done to this country that the terrorist had nothing to do with (in the first person sense).  

YOU THINK ABOUT IT....THE GOP has become in a funny sort of way the Terrorist’s  WAR MACHINE...the terrorist are winning; by using U.S. against U.S.   NOW. the GOP still wants to use "fear" for the next 4 years to continue us down this same road of destruction designed and planned by the people that we think are our enemy.

It’s time for American to end this fight; we need to vote a Democrat in every governmental office of the land.

Thank you and God Bless America.
As Chris Matthews so forcefully explained to that Conservitive Talk Show Dolt -- I mean Host -- diplomacy is not appeasement!  The philosophy of keeping your friends close, and your enemies closer, is a smart and strong philosophy.

I won't say that President Bush knew what he was doing when he made his speech -- he so rarely knows what he is doing -- but whoever wrote it for him knew exactly what he was doing.

The thing is, with the mood of the country right now, this will probably help Obama in November.
The entire Bush staff must have failed history class.  Negotiation does NOT equal appeasement.

Reagan and Nixon understood that very well.
Since when does any one in the Bush administration know anything about justice...

Keep Killing Families... it's your legacy Bush
Just like right-wing radio talk show host don't even know anything about the substance of Bush's speech.  One disgraced himself on Hardball last night.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/hardball-shoutfest-matthe_n_102020.html
Don't try to spin it now W.  Be a cowboy and Cowboy- up.  If you were tough enough to say it over there, stand by your words over here.

Just like a sidewinder, alway sliding off to hide under a rock.
I'm curious.  What is the long standing policy on terrorists who attack our nation and kill thousands of our citizens?  I assume it isn't to let them get away with it.  Six years later, and bin Laden is still walking around.  

Keep doing your John Wayne impression, Mr. Bush.  I am sure bin Laden is quaking in his boots.
Thank you, oh Thank you, Mr. Bush for making it so clear that Obama must be the next President - thank you for putting all your stupidity on display - and, of course, getting John McCain to join you on the Republican Party Destruction Express.
What Bush should have included in his remarks is a disclaimer, since his own family's fortunes were made partly through dealings with Nazi financiers--which seems a lot more like "appeasement" than just sitting down and talking (communicating) with potential enemies. See my earlier post today for a detailed review of the Bush family ties to Nazi financiers.
Didn't like the reaction of congressional leaders?  Too bad. And total hypocracy.  Guess it's ok for Republicans to trash Democrats, but when Democrats speak out, publicly, against what Bush inappropriately said on foreign soil, that's wrong? Whatever.  

My favorite response came from Sen. Biden, who said that what Bush said was bullsh*t!  
Murdering families that's unjustified too..
George Bush is the terrorist America has to stop appeasing

His Reichstag fire was WMDs in Iraq
At least there was a fire in the Reichstag
Where are the WMDs ?
Where are the Iranian nukes ?
Where is the Iranian nuclear program ?
You have no idea of what you are talking about. Come to my site it has all the facts. You are ignorant.
This is a amateur web site that doesn't know what they are talking about.
I felt humiliated, as an American citizen, watching Bush's performance in front of Knesset. It's so lame to equate politicians with diplomatic skills to Neville Chamberlain. Bush must have the lowest I.Q. of any leader on the national stage at this moment. Then, McCain puts on his "I'm with Stupid" T-shirt, good lord! I used to credit McCain with some savvy, where has it gone?
Thank you W, this is truly a gift to Obama.  George shows the striking contrast with Barack on the past failed forign policies with one that is more open minded.  Sorry W, but bullying doesn't work.  Barack Obama has the right idea.  Let's open a dialogue with everyone, especially countries that may be our enemies.  This is the best way to bring about change.  Through this communication we might even change the status of these countries and become friends.  What a concept.  

Obama '08    
The GOP is about to lose again...
Human rights..people being kind and giving to each other.. not being taking and mean to each other...
I wonder how you'll vote....
Also remember, mean people need to be loved but not followed...
Does poor pathetic Shrub know that Borah was a Republican?  Wasn't he the father of Alice Roosevelt Longworth's daughter? When each were married to other people?

I digress..

This shallow understanding of our own history is just beyond words.  If you want to carry that ridiculous conclusion forward, you have to understand that then as now, it was the DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT HAD IT RIGHT ON BOTH FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES.

Have the impeachment hearings started yet?
I agree that this was a major stretch for Obama to take offense and you guys go along with it.  It is more than apparent this is an OBAMA SITE and you will put a spin on anything to keep him in the news.  Oh, would you mind letting you readers know how he adresses woman with "SWEETIE"  Most of my comments are not posted, so I doubt this one will be, it is not in keeping with your AGENDA.  Just want you to know I receive satisfaction and letting you guys know that myself and many others know where you are coming from.
"All is fair in love and politics".

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It is interesting how Bush's statement resonates accross America.  It is more interesting on the reactions.

Bush was pandering to the Israelis.  He did so by eluding to the world's appeasement policy toward Germany.  In fact, Bush twisted it around to use terrorism as another wedge issue, tighten the common bonds with Israel and imply the Democrats are weak.  It was really a slight jab but certainly a moniker of the way Bush has governed over the last 7 years.

Democrats reacted swiftly and forcefully because it was a clear example of Bush's ham-fisted diplomacy.  His statement was also a poigniant reminder how his administration exploited terror as a wedge issue.  It's an honest reaction to a president with such low approval ratings.

And certainly as the Democratic primaries wind to a close, everyone is on pins and needles waiting for the nasty mud-slinging to begin.  Perhaps this was a spark that played into everyone's anticipation.
Once upon a time there was a place called America, a land of abundance and dreams, of people with ideas so lofty and labors so fruitful that their success and benevolence could scarcely be contained.

But, because America was a reality and not fiction,  its very survival was threatened from within by persons inflicted with greed and cynicism and lust for power. The price of greed was the denial to many of the basic necessities of life. The fulfilment of lust for power was unnecessary, unprovoked and unconscionable war. Many of noble spirit and pure heart believed their own sacrafice would bring America security. Their death and disfigurement came, instead, in a war that brought the burden of enormous debt, economic crisis, military exhaust and global disdain that compromised every facet of national security.

Then came 2008, and survival was still an option.

I am John McCain, and I DISAPPROVE this message.
He is an "Idiot"
Can this administration fess up to anything?  Why must they, and their republican counterparts, continue to insult the intelligence of the American people?  We bought into the boogeyman theory once, and then we turned the light on and checked under the bed and found nothing.  But rather than refocus our troops towards the source of the very real threat, we stay bogged down in Iraq at the cost of thousands of lives and billions of dollars.  Rather than admit a mistake and take action to correct it, this administration takes every conceivable position that will keep the region destabelized which no doubt has had a deleterious effect on oil prices.  The President and  the VP should be impeached and charged with war crimes before an international tribunal.
Read the transcript.  The man was backpedalling faster than Lance Armstrong.

He attacked Obama.  His aides, DURING the speech told reports it was about Obama.  Now he's running like a wounded animal because he's taking more heat that he thought he would.

Pathetic excuse of a President.  He has disgraced this nation.
The distinction between good and evil is an important one?  Give me a break... are you 10 years old.
This is why we need a new administration.  Did this guy even graduate from College?
Bush has a lot of nerve giving a speech to the Knessett considering his Grandfather, Prescott Bush was supporting the Nazi War Machine

http://clamormagazine.org/issues/14/feature3.php

A classified Dutch intelligence file which was leaked by a courageous Dutch intelligence officer, along with newly surfaced information from U.S. government archives, "confirms absolutely," John Loftus says, the direct links between Bush, Thyssen and genocide profits from Auschwitz.

The business connections between Prescott Bush and Fritz Thyssen were more direct than what has been previously written. This new information reveals how Prescott Bush and UBC, which he managed directly, profited from the Holocaust. A case can be made that the inheritors of the Prescott Bush estate could be sued by survivors of the Holocaust and slave labor communities. To understand the complete picture of how Prescott Bush profited from the Holocaust, it is necessary to return to the year 1916, where it all began.
More head in the sand, oblivious, ignorant "b------t" from team Bush. And I am sure it was said with blinders fully in place!
Joe Biden was right....bull****!
YES WE CAN show them how unjustified they are...

Think on that one GOP
Obama will gladly debate this issue with McSame and will make John look....Old.  Bush's comments put McSame in the perfect position of either siding with a loser President, or being on the wrong side of the issue.  Either way, McSame loses. Carry on "W" you are the best unifier for the Democratic party.
Mr. Bush is a coward and no one believes what that fool says anymore.  He has a lot of blood on his hands and hopefully a trial in his upcoming future.  Everyone knows that he was taking a cheapshot at Sen. Obama and now he wants to wiggle away from his stupid comments.  He has no shame and we shouldn't expect him to show any presidential fiber since his entire term in office has been devoid of it.
I guess the liberals want a meeting with Bin Laden to discuss surrender terms?

This is why Liberals cannot be trusted when it comes to the security of our country.
Bush didn't get his ideas of government any where strange.

A BBC Radio 4 investigation sheds new light on a major subject that has received little historical attention, the conspiracy on behalf of a group of influential powerbrokers, led by Prescott Bush, to overthrow FDR and implement a fascist dictatorship in the U.S. based around the ideology of Mussolini and Hitler.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/240707fascistcoup.htm
I'm very sure that the GOP is not use to being called on their statements.  Get use to it!  The democrats will answer your every attack.  You won't get by with it this time, not this election.  Stop your whinning-get over it and get use to it!    
Here let me point it out for them.....
"Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement."
It doesn't matter if this statement was directly pointed at Obama or not. The fact is the statement is idiotic. When it comes to the situation in Iraq, I would take "the false comfort of appeasement" over the unbearable discomfort of slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and thousands of americans for absolutely no reason while Bin-Laden sits in the mountains of Pakistan laughing at us. I am a native New Yorker. My best friend died on 9/11. My sister lived 15 blocks from the trade center. She rushed down to the sight to see if she could help. She will never shake off the memory of hearing thuds on the pavement everywhere and realizing that the sounds were from bodies hitting the ground all around her. Don't you freakin' Republicans tell me that we are safer. Don't you dare tell me that we are "taking the fight to them" while kissing Pakistan's ass is more important then eliminating the real threat to our country. You failed. You let us all down. You will never be forgotten or forgiven for leaving Afghanistan to wage a senseless war. Every coffin that returns from Iraq is a human being that you murdered. Every drop of blood spilled in Iraq is on your hands! Don't you dare try to lecture me on foriegn policy you coward! You are the terrorist! You are the extremist. You are the violent religous fanatic and history will shame you as long as we are here on earth.
Bush negotiated with a known terrorist in Libya's Qaddaffi to stop his arms buildup,so as usual, this administration likes to pick & choose & spin & lie, if you aren't with us you are against us mentality. Jan 21,2009 can't arrrive fast enough! Remember Bush & Hitler have things in common, called invasion & occupation of foreign countries without provacation.
Unjustified? If it had been a Democrat making a statement of this sort, the GOP would be on this like so many flies crawling over the dead bodies littering the Middle East that this idiot and his administration have left in their wake!
Unjustified is the war profiteering presently at work, a mis guided incursion into Iraq under false pretenses, 40,000,000 americans living below the poverty level etc. etc. etc. That is unjustified.
What would be justified is the impeachment of Bush and his veep (connot bring myself to say his name) and their arrest for high crimes and misdemeanors, that is JUSTICE!
I'm sure they were "surprised and curious" because they're used to the MSM and Congress just going along with all of their outrageous statements.  The Right has been claiming for years that anyone not marching lockstep with everything neocon idea is some sort of Nazi appeaser, it's YEARS past time to start calling people on that and other ridiculous utterances.
George's buddies in Saudi Arabia aren't going to increase production of Oil.  No Surprise there.  I think Obama should bring that crap up today and point to how bad this President really is.  He won't meet with countries without preconditions yet he can't even get our so called allies to help us out a little at the pump.
George W. Bush is the worst president we have ever had.  He is a moron and he has seriously hurt America.
Right.  So, yesterday, having confirmed (off-the-record, of course) to reporters that the comments were indeed a direct shot at Senator Obama specifically and Democrats in general, and having thereby broken a long-standing tradition of not going negative against political opponents when abroad, the new on-the-record stance is: what?  what?  what did we say that's causing all this fuss?
"Ed Gillespie said the White House "did not anticipate" the reaction of congressional leaders to the Knesset speech. He said he was "surprised and curious" by the reaction."

More disengenuous spin from the Bush crew. They're not surprised and curious about anything.  Bush is a disgrace to the United States. His presidency has been an unmitigated disaster of his own doing.
When you grew up did you ever run into any bullies? Did you tell them you aren't looking for trouble and just want to be friends? How did that work out for you?
Surprised?  Wait til November!!


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