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Clinton mocks Bush on oil

Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 5:27 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
JUNCTION CITY, Ore. -- Hillary Clinton ratcheted up her criticism of President Bush today, mocking him for simply “begging” Saudi Arabia to increase oil supplies rather than having a real plan to deal with the energy crisis.

“I don’t think it is a good energy policy to depend upon the kindness of the Saudis … while businesses and individuals are trying to figure out how they’re going to afford nearly $4 a gallon gas and nearly $5 a gallon diesel,” she said. “The impact is really beginning to ripple dramatically through the economy.”

Clinton’s comments came during a roundtable discussion with local residents about a host of problems facing the country today, primarily economic ones.

“I think it’s very important that we do something more dramatic than going to have tea with the Saudis,” she said. “The Saudis may decide, well we better do something to help out President Bush, but that’s a short term fix. It is not going to have any long-term consequences. And we just have to take a different approach if we’re going to begin to get serious.

Clinton generally lamented the sense of “paralysis” in the country today.

“We just can’t get anything done. Here we are the greatest nation in the world, the greatest problem solvers, and we’re not solving our problems,” she said. “We’re not solving our energy problems; we’re not solving our infrastructure problems. I mean it just doesn’t add up. And we’re sure not solving our health care problems.”

Clinton chose the home of Sandy and Marvin Mehlbrech to make these arguments, saying she prefers the roundtable forum to big rallies.

“When you have just the big events with the rallies and all the ra-ra, and all of the speeches and the lights and everything," she said, "it doesn’t mean as much to many people, me included."

As the session wrapped up, Sandy Mehlbrech urged Clinton to “stay in” the race, saying there are many people behind her. Clinton said she feels that support, and then claimed she had a lead in the national popular vote.

“I’ve got about 50,000 more votes, which is really exciting, because that’s important,” she said. “We’re gonna let everybody vote. Obviously I hope to persuade those of you who haven’t sent in your ballots in Oregon to consider supporting me.”

Though she said most people haven’t sent in their ballots, this is Clinton’s final day campaigning in this state. Later today she’ll hold one last town hall meeting, organized by a local television station and to be broadcast live. From there, she’ll spend the remaining days before the May 20 primaries in Kentucky.

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and your holiday gas tax is different, how again?
Clinton shouldnt criticize the president. He's much smarter than she is.
I think she made a great point that our energy policy should absolutely not include begging the Saudis to increase oil production. Guess she then lost her grip on reality when she pressed the popular vote isse to her own favor. Let's get a grip and get it together, dems.
50K more votes???  Where???  Also Hillary, what ever happened to you gas tax holiday??? Guess that fell in the same place as you chances for the nomination - right down the crapper...but you have 50K more votes. Good luck with you pending legal problems.  I hear the aria.
Go Hillary go girl, welcome aboard on the Obama team.  We need you to put down the GOP.  Hillary we need to stick together and Obama needs your help.

Obama 08
George W. Bush is a uniter and not a divider.  

Uniter of the Democratic Party!
These are the comments I like to hear from Hil. The repugnican party is a real mess.
You go girl.

Hillary for Prez all the way.
Why is this MSNBC blog so pro-Obama? Chuck Todd & Co. probably make over $100,000K apiece and fall into the "latte liberal" category. But as reporters, Todd and Co. should be more objective. I'd like to see Chuck Todd & Co. really slam Obama one (1) time...just once, like they do Hillary and McCain.

C'mon, Msnbc! Slam Obama just once! He's pretty careless (i.e. Wright,"sweetie",etc.) so there's a lot to attack. C'mon! Obama's not the Messiah, even though he raises his arms at those BIG rallies (McCain can't raise his arms). Obama is just a rookie Senator from Chicago.

Rather than question Obama, Chuck Todd & Co. adore him. Of all the candidates who need scrutiny, Obama needs it the most. BUT MSNBC IS IN THE TANK FOR OBAMA!
So what happened with George "NeoNazi" Bush's great friendship with that crooked tyrant King of Saudi Arabia?  All that money and manpower we wasted helping out this traitor to the American people who protected him from Saddam in the first Gulf War.

And "Warmonger" Bush just signed a multi billion dollar arms deal with these false friends?  Yeah we see what kind of friends he's brought to our side.

Go Obama 08/12!
Hillary, don’t give up. You have worked so hard and long for the nomination. Your determination and willingness to put yourself through all this shows the strong person that you are. I know you are the most experienced, knowledgeable candidate.

HILLARY 2008!
“When you have just the big events with the rallies and all the ra-ra, and all of the speeches and the lights and everything," she said, "it doesn’t mean as much to many people, me included."

Really?  Is that why you had that intimate gathering in WVA to celebrate your victory? NOT!

Mr. Bush did not really beg anybody anything - unless you count him begging the Saudis to keep it up so his family's personal fortune will continue to grow.

Meanwhile, please take a remedial math course Hillary.  Your math is fuzzy.

I am a typically bitter white sweetie living in a state that YOU said wouldn't count...and I approved this message.
And just what is the Democrats plan for energy? Best I can guess, it's not to drill for oil, not to mine and manage the clean coal resources in the US, not to be build nuclear plants, not to drill in Anwar. The only plan I see the Democrats have is have wind power. We'd have to attach something to their mouths for that to work. The Democrats and the Tree Huggers (same thing, really) have successfully blocked any and every means to new energy sources for this country for the last generation. Now they sit and pout that there is no energy policy. Even Franch has figured out that the way to go is with nukes.

And, didn't Hillary say in 2006 that if we elected a Democratic House and Senate that gas prices would go down. Just like then, she's nothing but a liar.
This is a much better tone for Hillary to take now that she's accepted the reality that this primary race is over.  It's too bad she didn't throw the kitchen sink at "NeoNazis" Bush/McCain 3 months ago.  She wouldn't have lost so much respect from us Obama supporters had she gone after our true enemies: the repugnant ones.

Go Obama 08/12!
Ever notice the posts turn more conservative after 5pm? Most conservatives are just getting home from work, while the unemployed liberals have had all day to post.
for the last two days i forgot that there was going to be another primary thats a bad sign for hillary
The Reagan Democrats are coming home.  Hah Hah we're seeing the end of the Reagan Revolution.  Now we need to send "Warmonger" McCain into political retirement, where all Reagan foot soliders belong.

Go Obama 08/12!
Until the senator from New York starts actively campaigning for the DNC presidential candidate Barack Obama, there is nothing newsworthy about her.  HRC will be remembered for a failed candidacy and refusing to guide the base of supports she built during her campaign towards a unified effort to elect a Democratic president.  The time is now to step up Hillary.
Thanks Hillary for your support......We need all we can get on the left.....I cant wait till Obama brings War Crimes againts Bush and his Administration for Iraq.... Bush tipped the balance of power to Iran in the middle east....Bush your days are numbered just like you numbered Saddams days.....Saddam was the reason why Iran stayed in check and Bush changed all of that.....

Your next Bush.......War Crimes
Hillary, it's not a good idea to be critical of the President when he's on foreign soil conducting important business. The courtesy was extended to your husband when he was in office, and should be observed by you now. You of all people should know better. Perhaps this political tin-ear of yours is why you lost your parties nomination?
Neo-con republicans are pigs that have ruined a once great nation. PIGS.
Maybe if we had some kind of gas tax holiday then everything would be better.
Hillary Clinton is definitely the candidate who will help this Country get on tract, she is right on.  The greatest Country in the World (or was) going begging to the Saudis, how demeaning is this.  Hillary has ignored Obama's group which is about time and is focusing on what is important in the mean time Obama is on a Tirade over a Bush statement that he decided was directed at him.  Does anyone really think this man can take the heat of a General Election?  NOT
This is a good move on her part for all Democrats. I would hope that she continues these kinds of attacks on Bush, McCain, and Republicans rather than on her fellow Democrat Obama.

I know that she wants to be the Democratic Party's nominee, but frankly the numbers and political realities aren't in her favor. Rather than fragmenting the Party's base by continuing to lambaste Obama while the Republican attack machine is gearing up to focus on Obama, which may drive many of her supporters to vote for McCain so she can pursue a 2012 bid, she should be attacking Republicans alongside Obama so that our country doesn't have to endure another four years of backwards policies and four more years of our soldiers dying in Iraq. Regardless of how much or how little her suppoters may like Obama, four years is a long time.

So, please Senator Clinton, keep on attacking Bush and McCain. Even if you don't become our nominee, our country will be better for it.
Good job staying on message HRC. Attack Bush and the GOP, not Obama.

Obama 08
Sen. Clinton hit it on the money.  George Bush is an abject disgace----somberly declaring he gave up golf(God ALmighty)to show his solidarity with American soldiers who have been killed and maimed, while holding out his begging cup for nary a drop of oil from the land of the 9/11 hijackers.  Jesus Wept.
Hillary is so in touch with problems and solutions of all the people. She has been brushed aside so many times and its to the disgrace of the media and Obama and his people. He is so fake and his supporters cannt see through him is a sad and bad day for us all.Obama has destroyed a lot of work people have gotten done here .He has destroyed the party and country for his own ego.He is now playing the same game on McCain as he did with Bill Clinton.I couldnt really see it before but this time is so obvious.I dont think it will work as well this time though. Hillary was careful and we were all politically correct but not anymore thanks to him.I dont know if that is good or bad.I kind of liked it before but like Obama said from his pastor and his anger and anti american stance it was the white peoples fault from generations ago and blacks still feel that. I thought we had made headway guess I was wrong.Not any place I feel comfortable anymore for sure.His wife says she will spend her resources on Blacks and wants to take away white power.well You all help him do that I cannt.
I'm glad somebody brought that up.  It seemed like a pathetic thing for Bush to do.
Can't believe you guys have had nothing to say about Huckabee's latest blunder.
Hillary, I'm trying REALLY hard to forgive you for all your misspeaks, war support votes, character assassination attempts on your Dem. opponent, etal;  stop, PLEASE, with the false camapaign claims already!  I'm trying to accept you & all of your faults and would kind of like to see Sen. Obama offer you an incredibly important cabinet post in his administration.  So, PLEASE, will you & Bubba just put a lid on it already?!  Get while the gettin's good, girl!  Don't ruin your political career for the wrong reasons, OK?!

This is old, really, really old.  Last time for the hearing impaired  THE POPULAR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT, it is pledged delegates.  PERIOD.  PERIOD.  EXCLAMATION POINT.
She's the fighter we need.
The popular vote argument is soooo misleading.  Her claim includes Michigan (where Obama's name even wasn't on the ballot and Clinton said wouldn't count) and Florida (again not supposed to count) and doesn't include ALL of the caucus states where Obama won big.  
Score two points for Hillary!
1) I love it when she mocks people.  She's so good and it always gives me a chuckle.
2) She mocked the right person.

I think Hillary would be a great Secretary of State, by the way.  Her words are always carefully chosen and pack a great punch.  She's also very good at making you look at her side of things.  Who else, in the middle of a game, could have the refs even consider changing the rules, with the FL and MI votes?  You have to admit, she's good.  
...talk about "begging"-"I hope to persuade...you...to consider supporting me".

Where is the rationale, besides "We're going to let everyone vote"?
This highlights the problem with Senator Clinton. She made a sound argument about our current energy crisis, then pollutes it with fuzzy math about the popular vote. While she shares many of the same good ideas as Senator Obama, she fails to share his same ideals.
Oil suckup...and NO will be the answer again...cowboy
shoulda save a little gas and asked Mexico..or do they hate us too...
Hillary made a good point....but, her & Bill's bank account has also benefited from the kindness of the Saudis.
Bush has been appeasing Saudi Arabia for years. He gives them advanced weapons, he helped them leave the country after 9/11, he holds hands and kisses them and now he begs them for mercy on oil. They used us as a mercenary army in the first gulf war. Saudi Arabia is the principal financier of terrorists groups. Osama Bin Laden and the 9/11 hijackers were spawned from there. And the village idiot from Texas (really elitists from Maine, big hat no cattle) has the gall to call it appeasement for any Democrat to want to negotiate for real instead of faux results.
Hillary Lapse.  Both Hillary & Bill are profiting greatly from the obscene wealth of the oil-rich countries in the mideast.
Kudos to Senator Clinton. I have been impressed with her "fortitude" the past two days. Sticking up for Obama, and now, getting serious with Bush. It's about time we started taking on the real opponent--the staggeringly incompetent GOP.
Democrats are gonna OWN '08.

(Let everyone vote till June 4.)
Obama '08
Domenico:

Admit it. Hillary can beat McCain, Obama can't. Obama's debut on the world stage is very disappointing. His reaction to Bush's Knesset speech is too shrill. Obama sounds like a little boy. His inexperience shines through.
Bush is doing exactly what he said he would do in 2000 to combat high gas prices, beg the Saudis to produce more. Over the years, for the most part the Saudis tried to comply. Now they rebuffed Bush because they *can't* increase their oil production. In other words, peak oil has arrived and the two oilmen we have in the White House did not do jack didly to prepare us for it!
How about sending Hillary over to the Saudis' to get the gas.  She would give the Saudis' so much gas/pain that they would give us the gasoline that we need probably for free just to take HER back.
HILLARY IS PATHETIC.  SHE HAS RUN A POLITICS-OF-RACE CAMPAIGN AND NOW THAT SHE FINALLY GETS THE MESSAGE THAT THE DEMS DON'T WANT HER AS THEIR NOMINEE --- SHE IS DESPERATELY TRYING TO "SUCK UP" TO OBAMA.

OBAMA DOSEN'T WANT OR NEED HILLARY.

HE CERTAINLY DOESN'T WANT "BIG MOUTH BILL" CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM OR LIVING IN THE VP'S MANSION.

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE AND HILLARY IS ON HER KNEES SUCKING-UP TO OBAMA.

SAY ""NO"" TO HILLARY.

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The only thing I have found to agree with Hillary thus far. The article I read stated that the Saudis saw no evidence of a shortage, they are absolutely correct more oil production is not going to solve our problems. There is adegaute supply for the demand without a doubt, however corporate oil companies would like for the consumer to think there is a shortage along with the wolves of Wall Street. Lets not leave out the threat of the U S discontinuing arms to the Saudis if there is no increase!
So McCain "comments" and Hillary "mocks."  I feel like "points out obvious hypocrisy," "reminds a candidate of their glaring flaws" or "refutes" might be a better wordchoice Mr. Domenico.  Way to cozy up to your media darling McCain
I am sorry but it all adds up. You Democrats blocked digging for oil, blocked nuclear energy, coal and put all your energy eggs in a "alternative source" that doesn't exist and what little does cannot even come close to sustaining our economy. Great jobs you Democrats. It is all your fault so stop looking for scape goats.
Stay in Hillary.  I was voting republican, but they are not doing anything about the gas prices or the economy and I am sick of it.  So you will get my vote.
$1.47 average for gas when President Bush took office 7 years and 4 months ago.
$2.36 average for gas when the Democrats took majority and promised to lower prices 1 year and 4 months ago.
$3.67 average today.

My guess is that neither Democrats or Republicans care what the prices are. This is a free country and Hillary could use her Senator status and talk to the Saudis herself if she thought it would make a difference.

Beating up President Bush over prices may benefit the Democrats electionwise but if they win the White House and still control Congress then they should be held accountable if prices don't decline the same way they ignore themselves now and bash President Bush over the prices.


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