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Obama keeps up criticism of McCain

Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 6:27 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
ROSEBURG, OR -- During a campaign stop here today, Obama said McCain and President Bush don’t understand foreign policy and urged voters to support McCain if they want to continue the Bush Administration’s approach to diplomacy and health care.

Both Democratic candidates and the Democratic National Committee have sought to link McCain to the president -- and his historically low approval ratings -- in voters’ minds.

The Illinois senator again criticized Bush for his remarks in Israel about appeasers, arguing Bush’s foreign policy has not worked and that McCain’s would be the same. “If you agree that we’ve had a great foreign policy over the last four, eight years, then you should vote for John McCain, you shouldn’t vote for me," he told the audience at a town hall in a high school cafeteria. "The fact that they are trying to make this into an issue indicates they don't understand how foreign policy works."

As he has begun to do more and more lately, Obama justified his stance on negotiating with dictators by comparing it to that of past presidents. "If George Bush and John McCain have a problem with direct diplomacy, led by the president of the United States, then they can explain why they have a problem with John F. Kennedy, because that’s what he did with Khrushchev. Or Ronald Reagan, 'cause that’s what he did with Gorbachev. Or Richard Nixon 'cause that’s what they did with Mao. That’s exactly the kind of diplomacy we need to keep us safe.”
 
The McCain campaign said Obama had the wrong approach to dealing with "the leaders of rogue nations." "Senator Obama is missing the point, it’s the ‘unconditional, that’s unacceptable," spokesman Tucker Bounds said in an emailed statement. "Barack Obama’s pledge to unconditionally bring Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to the world stage isn’t ‘new politics. It’s incredibly weak judgment and reveals why Americans will elect John McCain’s record of experience, and tested leadership. We are a nation rooted in a history of sacrifice and achievement, not in candidates who offer nothing but lofty rhetoric and campaign promises.”

At the town hall, Obama poked fun at the speech McCain gave this week in which he envisioned having won the Iraq war by 2013 and withdrawn most troops. “I won’t just predict that this war might come to an end years from now like John McCain did a couple of days ago," he began. "I won’t just divine that it might end in 2013. I will end it. I will end this war within the first 16 months that I take office as president.”
 
Health care and the environment
Obama also sought to link Bush and McCain on the issue of health care. "What do we get from John McCain?," he asked. "He wants to give you the failed Bush health-care policies for another four years. Essentially his plan is we’re gonna dismantle the employer-based system and give everybody a tax break and then see if you can fend for yourself in the marketplace."

He said both his plan and Hillary Clinton's would provide affordable health care to every single American who wants it.

Obama also said McCain had not offered plans for fixing Social Security or helping to make college more affordable, and he tried to use humor to punch holes in McCain’s record on environmental issues in response to a question about what he would do to combat global warming.

"John McCain -- for him to come to Oregon as an environmental president but his big strategy is to do more drilling and to have a gas-tax holiday for three months -- that’s a phony solution,” he said. "John McCain has consistently been opposed to fuel efficiency standards, to raising fuel efficiency standards on cars. How is he gonna meet any of these targets? Maybe he’s kind of imagining it the way he did imagining get outing (sic) out of the war in Iraq. You know, we, we, we need somebody with a plan.”

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Good for you, Barack. Expose him for what he is a war monger.  I respect John McCain for his military service, but if he's going to start spewing the same fear mongering as that idiot Bush, there is no way he should be president. Obama may not have "experience" but he has judgment and I'll take that any day. I'm 45, I'm white, I'm female and I'm voting for Sen. Obama.  
AND MCCAIN KEEPS GOING DOWN!
IS THIS... knowledge, the experience, the background to make the kind of judgments that are necessary to preserve this nation's security.

U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts disagrees with McCain on tankers
Wichita — U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts, facing his own re-election battle, distanced himself Friday from presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain on the awarding of a tanker contract that cost Kansas some 2,000 aircraft jobs.

“I am not in agreement with the nominee on this issue,” Roberts told The Associated Press shortly after a meeting with Republican supporters.

McCain has been criticized by aerospace workers for the Air Force’s decision earlier this year to award a contract for new refueling tankers to European Aeronautic Defense & Space Co., the European parent company of Airbus, Boeing’s chief rival.

Roberts, a longtime supporter of Boeing, said he did not expect the tanker issue to hurt his own re-election.

“I don’t know if people will make a decision on that issue alone,” Roberts said Friday.

He also said he did not know whether the controversy would hurt McCain’s chances in this Republican state, which is heavily dependent on aircraft manufacturing. Some of the work on the proposed tankers would have been done at the Boeing Co.’s Wichita facility.

McCain worked earlier this decade to kill a separate deal to lease Boeing refueling jets to the Air Force. Some of McCain’s advisers have lobbied for EADS, but the Arizona senator and former Navy pilot has denied interceding on their behalf during the new refueling tanker deal.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/may/17/roberts_disagrees_mccain_tankers/
McSame is a 3rd Bush term, he is OLD, ANGRY with a temper and jsut flip flops all over the place...Plus he just plain ol looks DUMB when he talks, he can't even read the prompter's correctly. He has tooo many senior moments
It's not gonna be a pleasant six months for Grumpy Grampa.
This exchange is why we need to elect Barack Obama and not John McCain.  President Bush is like the kid standing on his front porch, holding his football, claiming that he will not play until everyone agrees to let him make all the rules, determine who will play what position, etc...  In the meantime all of the other kids have found another ball & are playing without us.  
We applaud you president Obama! expose the double talk express!
Barack Obama - for America at its best.
The word unconditional is the problem?  puh leaze.  Conditions can be broken after a presidential visit. What is the necessity of "conditions?"  Preparation obviously is good enough if the fate of the world depended on it. I cannot believe that this whole argument is boiling down to the word unconditional and here I thought it was about meeting with these people at all (which I believe is the more significant point of debate) Conditions, smonditions.  When its time to negotiate one of the most significant peace treaties in our lifetimes, "conditions" can go out the door in a minute if it means peace.  That's what we are fighting for in the end, no?  Or is it oil like McCain has implicated?
We are a nation rooted in a history of sacrifice and achievement, not in candidates who offer nothing but lofty rhetoric and campaign promises.”


Isn't this what all candidates do? Rant and Rave and make promises that most don't keep.  I for one am tired of being made promises and hyped up, only to be let down.  DO WHAT YOU SAY,,,don't mislead America
The people of this country need to wake up and pay attention, John McCain scares the heck out of me as he should anyone who really listens to what he says or more importantly what he doesn't say.  He is a Bush man all  the way, towing the party line with no hesitation, no apology and no care for the abyss that those failed policies have placed us at.  My God, what is it going to take people?  Obama is the change we need, not just someome who can play the game as it stands but who can change to game forever, and for the better for all of us and our children.  I fear for all of us if we don't change course as a nation and soon!
It will be great to have an intelligent president with a nuanced reality-based view of the world.


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