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Today's contests: The milestone?

Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:16 AM by Mark Murray
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The New York Times calls tonight -- when Obama will have won a majority of the pledged delegates -- a milestone for the Illinois senator. "For Mr. Obama, the situation is delicate. While eager to proceed to a general election match with Senator John McCain of Arizona, the likely Republican nominee, Mr. Obama is also trying to bring the contest to a close in a way that allows him to win over Mrs. Clinton’s supporters and unify the party. For her part, Mrs. Clinton is making a counterargument that she is winning the popular vote if Florida and Michigan are counted, and that the party’s leaders should take that into consideration before deciding which candidate to support.”

“The results from the Kentucky and Oregon primaries on Tuesday will almost certainly allow Mr. Obama to reach a threshold that his campaign has long sought to establish as the critical measure of the will of the party: winning a majority of the delegates awarded in primaries and caucuses. He also continues to gather support from the party leaders known as superdelegates that he still needs to secure the nomination, picking up five more endorsements on Monday."

The LA Times also says tonight is a "milestone." "To mark the moment, Obama will appear at a rally tonight not in one of the primary states, but in Iowa -- the state whose January caucuses brought Obama a win that galvanized his campaign. The choreographed setting is meant to suggest the near- inevitability of Obama's nomination, without claiming an outright triumph that would offend Clinton loyalists whose support is needed in November."

The Washington Post's Balz notes that whatever either side is saying, one thing's for sure: Both have declared an "effective cease-fire." As for Clinton, "while she presses forward, aides say she is determined neither to be pushed from the race prematurely nor to be seen as doing anything to damage Obama's prospects of winning in November if he emerges as the nominee. Her campaign team believes that is the best way to bring the party together as quickly as possible once the nomination contest is over.”

“Her advisers say that a major reason she does not want to be pressured out of the race is that she believes it will be easier to bring her supporters over to Obama once the primaries are over if they think she was able to finish the nomination battle on her own terms."

KENTUCKY: The Lexington Herald-Leader previews today’s contest. The paper also endorsed Obama.

Per the Boston Globe, “The state appears to be Hillary Clinton country in its demographics: 88 percent of residents are white, and they are poorer and less educated than the national average. Only registered Democrats can vote, a rule that fences out independents who have been less friendly to Clinton. And unlike in other states, there has not been a huge surge in new voters.”

OREGON: “The state's liberal leanings and collection of college towns bode well for Obama, but the eastern part of Oregon is more conservative and conducive to Clinton,” the Boston Globe says. “Oregon is the only state that votes entirely by mail, though the ballots won't be counted until today, and the turnout has been heaviest in expected Obama strongholds.”

The Portland Tribune throws a heaping bucket of cold water on two polls showing the race within five points. “But some political experts, including Portland pollster Tim Hibbitts, were skeptical about those findings. ‘If the Clinton and Obama campaigns had numbers showing it was a four- or five-point race, they’d be down here through 8 p.m. Tuesday night,’ Hibbitts said. Instead, Hillary Clinton left Portland on Friday for Kentucky, and Obama left the state Sunday for Montana.”
 
What’s the difference? “It turns out the Suffolk poll sample included a different mix of people than Hibbitts, one of Oregon’s most respected pollsters. Ten percent of the people in Suffolk’s poll were independents, and they aren’t allowed to vote in Oregon primaries. Suffolk also included a smaller mix of younger voters and a larger share of older voters in its poll. Younger voters are solidly in Obama’s camp in Oregon, while Clinton leads among older voters. Hibbitts said Suffolk’s age mix would be more typical of a low-turnout election. But as the 75,000 people flocking to see Obama at Tom McCall Waterfront Park showed, this primary has energized Oregon Democrats. Turnout in Oregon’s Democratic primary could approach 70 percent, Hibbitts said. As a result, younger voters will make up a larger share of the electorate than usual.”

The Washington Post wonders whether exit polls (check that, survey data) on Oregon will be accurate or not. From everything we've learned, this survey data might actually be more accurate in the early waves because of the statistical consistency that the NEP can control for easier in a phone poll.

Voter rolls are up -- especially Democratic ones -- in Oregon. Democrats have doubled their advantage over Republicans in registered voters. The number of registered Democrats in Oregon has gone up 105,000 this year (through April). By comparison, GOP rolls have increased just 11,000 in the same time. Democrats had led Republicans in total registered voters by 87,000 voters.

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Looks like the presumptive nominee is going to get his doors blown off again in Kentucky. Oregon is looking closer and closer too. Too bad most of the people at the huge Obama rally where there to listen to the music and most were left wondering just who was that whiney man on the stage. Besides, most of those people think the election is next week.
It is literally making me CRAZY that the media is playing along with the Clintons "popular vote" narrative wich COMPLETELY DISCOUNTS the caucus states (not even going there on the Michigan/Florida thing - aaaarrrrggghhh).

PLEASE STOP PRETENDING that the "POPULAR VOTE" is a  FAIR COMPARISON when SEVERAL STATES that Senator Obama WON didn't even HAVE a popular vote total because they CAUCUSED!

JEEZ! This is really getting RIDICULOUS!
Obama will clinch it tonight, and start focusing on the contest in November and Americans can focus on flushing out stagnent War voting Democrats and Bush loving Republicans.
Just because HIllary is STILL on TV this morning flapping her lips about "he hasn't won anything yet" should NOT deter Obama from basking in his accomplishment tonight of winning the most pledged delegates. Her endless lip-service of being ahead in the popular vote is nothing short of laughable when he has clearly won more states, more delegates and more superdelegates than she has. People say you have to admire her because she is tenacious; that may be, but so are pit bulls and I don't like THEM either. She is exhausting to watch with all the spinning and I'll be glad when she's gone and only a memory.
Dan Balz lives in a fantasy world:  HRC is going to FL Wednesday to start to spoil Obama's general election campaign.  HRC is not only a SORE LOSER, but a spoiler, as well.  Why doesn't she confine herself to winning the remaining primaries, which she claims have millions of votes yet to be cast and counted?
Obama is just 16 pledged delegates away from reaching an absolute majority!

Obama For President!! Tonight is the night!!!!

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It is going to be interesting to see how badly Obama smears Hillery in Oregon. If talk and yard signs are any indication, it's going to be a landslide. A big one.
I'm going to be watching the the numbers between the Willamette Valley/Portland vote and the rest of Oregon vote. It will show the difference here between the leftwing, welfare state, liberals and traditional American common sense.
It's too bad this election everyone seems to be voting to punish, rather than electing the best possibility. How often will we have to hear the democrats say "he's just like Bush". This won't be a campain against John McCain. This will be a campain against GWB. Unfortunately they are likely to beat McCain that way.

Still voting for RON PAUL.
Barack Obama will win the most important measurement tonight as he gets over half the pledged delegates with a few more contests to go to pad his lead.  That's the only measurement the superdelegates will pay attention to as they make their decision to jump off the fence and join the winning Obama team.

Go Obama 08/12!
Clinton is repeating " I can win if you let me cheat" over and over.  This is why a woman hasn't been chosen yet to lead this nation.  Senator Obama has run a clean, effective and decent campaign.  She on the other hand has run a negative, name-calling, debt-ridden campaign and then refuses to concede.  This is why it will be a long time before another woman will be taken seriously in a presidential campaign.  She has run the classic text-book " What not to do if you are a woman running for President"

P.S.-I'm a woman
Iowa could be in play in the general election, and Obama is rapidly moving toward general election mode.

The question may well come down to whether Iowans are tired of following these Republicans in hiding under the collective bed out of fear from all these two-bit dictators.
It IS a milestone. Why? Never in the history of this country has the nomination been giving to anyone other than the leader in pledged delegates. There is no precedent for overruling that metric, and so to do so now would be suicide. Obama fought hard in each and every state, he started with little name recognition and no real fund-raising mechanisms already in place. He created his own success. He chose a brilliant campaign staff, and executed arguably the most impressive campaign in history. He drove up new voter registration and voter turnout in virtually every state, and got a record number of people to donate to his campaign. There is no super delegate in their right mind who would look at all of that and decide that Hillary, who started with every advantage a threw it all away, should get the nomination.

Moreover, there have already been a number of undeclared superdelegates who have stated that they will not overturn the results of the pledged delegate count (the Pelosi Club). Even a couple of Hillary's current supers have made that same claim. So yes, tonight IS a milestone, as it will secure the nomination for Obama, guaranteeing that the remaining supers back him before or at the convention.
I'm happy that Obama has reached this milestone. He's had a tough race, battling a name brand (Clinton), the Republicans, and, at times, the establishment media. He's finally learned how to drive a media narrative, too, which is great to see.

I can't wait for these primaries to be over. I like the Obama and McCain "attacks" so far. They're on substantive issues, for the most part, and that's what electing a president should be about.
Hmmm, the situation is delicate.  What situation in the world isn't, these days?  Guess we're pretty fortunate we have a candidate skilled in the fine art of nuance.

Glad Obama is a sleek Viper instead of the overblown Hummer.
Regarding the Washington Post (Balz) article,

Nice talk or perhaps spin from the Clinton campaign but one has to wonder whether they are speaking for their candidate who is still bashing Obama's electability at every turn, who is still touting the whole "this next State, (fill in the blank) matters, this next State (fill in the blank) is the one Dems need in the Fall" kind of rhetoric.  What the campaign is saying and what Clinton is saying appear to be two different things.

A slight uptick in tone and she continues to say "he can't win", yeah, that's helpful to the Dems in the Fall.  Yeah, that's unifying the party.  Does she think we're stupid?
I think Clinton camp is stalling for time not for supporters but for their own selfish reasons. She could give a speech and help her supporters move forward right away. However, Obama will still win, because the next president will pick judges, make foriegn policy etc....nobody wants McCain to have any say in that. What the Clinton camp is doing and saying now is destructive to the party and I think history and their brand will reflect it. Even the last gasp of her campaign continue to be poorly run, polorizing and unprofessional.
Hopefully, today, Kentuckians will show they are not as fearful as many of the voters in their neighboring state were last week.  The exit polling in W. Va. told a story about racial prejudice holding sway over many voters.  Education and economic status are key parts of why prejudice stands simply, out in the open there to this day.  
Barack Obama has picked up a superdelegate endorsement on the morning of the Oregon/Kentucky primaries. Iowa Democratic Chairman Scott Brennan announced he is supporting Obama.
Let's move on to the GE, please.  This Don Quixote-like quest of hers is really getting old.

When your husband's former staffers and a former member of the KKK back your AA/White opponent - it's over.
It is about time for us to allow Barack and his campaign to enjoy their accomplisments. The Hillary campaign makes a big deal out of their wins, when it is obvious the are still losing.
Hillary and her supporter's know that the DNC ruled Florida and Michigan cannot be counted due to moving up their Primarys. Hillary agreed to this ruling before she fell behind,now she says they must be counted, then she lied and said it is Senator Obama who is not allowing the count. This is insane behavior that far exceeds just twisting the facts.
The only milestone is that the Obamabots are handing us an unelectable person who will be labled by the republicans as the 21st century version of Jimmy Carter...a tax and spend liberal who's weak on national security.
HILLARY CLINTON IS THE GREATEST CAMPAIGNER IN AMERICAN HISTORY !!!

HILLARY CLINTON  CAN BEST WIN IN NOVEMBER:

IT'S ABOUT  ELECTABILITY !!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania, and loss in Indiana and West Virginia makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Sen. Obama has zero chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources without Hillary Clinton. Zero chance.

It is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Sen. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Sen. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Sen. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Sen. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Don't be fooled by the pledged delegate, and math arguments. Neither candidate has the necessary pledged delegates. The entire delegates counts, and votes from Florida, and Michigan are not even being counted. Plus the democratic caucuses, and primarys have been heavily corrupted by fraud, and vote cheating. The only relevant question now is who can best WIN IN NOVEMBER and take back the Whitehouse for the American people. And the answer is HILLARY CLINTON. Everyone knows that now.

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I'm with ya baby. All the way. "Clinton Supporters Count Too."
This has been an act of selfishness on Clintons party.  Since Feb, this race has been over....we have just traded back and forth after Barack successfully racked on a lead that Hillary could never close.

Game over....lets focuses on MCCain
Carl Kendall, Cary NC (Sent Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:24 AM)

It's gotta be hard, Carl. I would feel the same way if My candidate were in your candidates position. But very soon it will be decided and the healing should start now. We need to get behind the nominee and defeat the GOP soundly in November. Together we can do it.

DEM '08
If Florida and Michigan were not penalized, and their primaries allowed to proceed as planned, then this would be Hillary's nomination already!  She would've won big in those states, and the momentum from those wins would have propelled her to the nomination earlier, and left Obama in the dust...in fact, I think he would've left the campaign long ago.

Just the hard facts!
If Hillary really wants to make a difference, she'll end this race, become the DNC chair and work to make the Democratic primaries "fair"... meaning we'd toss the caucus/red states, only count CA, TX, FL, MI, OH & PA (KY & WV if you're losing), forget delegates and go with the popular vote, and determine the winner by the electoral college.

...but then allow the Superdelegates to overturn everything.


That's change, baby.

I hope we can win this election without Clinton Supports. What a bunch of bitter people. And yes that was a direct reference. Geraldine looked like a complete idiot on TV today. The whole world does not revolve around Hillary Clinton. It does not revolve around her voters. It does not revolve around women. nothing like feeling the rath of a woman scorned.... But dude... no one scorned you. Voters all over the nation voted and you lost! You lost! I know you are all upset but back off!
Clinton seems ever more like the sole mosquito at a picnic.  The wind is picking up, and her annoying buzzing is becoming less and less audible. Hopefully one more puff of wind will do the trick.
Bill in OK, how do you know about those in KY?  What about people in your own state where Clinton won 69-31%.  Was that about race?  Frankly, I'm sick to death of people screaming "racism" if they aren't for Obama.  For myself, it is because I do not like the man, his wife or his associates. I do not like his arrogance, his naivete or his inexperience.  At some point, the Obama campaign needs to realize, though, that every time they scream "racism", they turn off a lot of people.  It looks like more of their whining, excuses.
If Obama wins, America will not get the best person for the job.
He is all talk, there is no substance behind it.

Hillary will make a better President!

She has the capacity, strenght, and wisdom to make the necessary changes, so desperately needed.

The only candidate that can bring the troops back home in a short time. If you have a son, daughter, husband, wife or family in IRAK, you must support her.

Can someone PLEASE point out, when we're stuck with Geri once again talking about sexist behavior - NO ONE, absolutely NO ONE put women's rights further back than Hillary herself when she was standing on the stage with NC's repulsive Jethro governor, who was drooling and practically jerking off telling us how much he "Loves strong women."  Come on, Hill, why would someone who's supposed to be our trailblazer for women put up with that?? whoring your morals for votes, at a cost to women everywhere?
I have to agrree with the woman who said that Clinton is ruining the chances of other women candidates to be taken seriously in the near future. If women candidates act like Hillary, why bother with them?  But I think she's also ruining her party, and that is shameful. Whether she likes it or not, Obama has won the nomination, and he should be free to go full-speed ahead against Mcshame now.  But he has this quacking albatross around his neck who keeps telling anyone who'll listen (mostly old '70s feministas)"It's not over yet!" It IS over, and Clinton should move on and help Obama move on.  All this pettiness on her part will keep her voters from switching to Obama, no matter what she says. It's a betrayal of the democratic party, pure and simple.
Fellow Obama supporters. I heard Obama at his Rally here in Bozeman last night. In addition to the usual barn burner speech he focused clearly on the fact that we all have to work on unity. Not just with disappointed Clinton supporters but with disaffected republicans and independents. Conciliatory is the word. Talk them down and bring them home. We have a huge job to do and many hands make lite work.
Lets go!

Obama '08
If Florida and Michigan were not penalized, and their primaries allowed to proceed as planned, then this would be Hillary's nomination already!  She would've won big in those states, and the momentum from those wins would have propelled her to the nomination earlier, and left Obama in the dust...in fact, I think he would've left the campaign long ago.

Just the hard facts!
Pat Huntington NY (Sent Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:48 AM)

Hey Pat, here's some Cold Hearted facts about this Primary season.Barack Obama has Won More Delegates, More States & has the Most Popular Votes according to the Rules of the DNC.I know it's hard for Hillary supporter's to Understand Fact's, but Thankfully a majority of American's Can.Be confident in the Known fact that Hillary is coming back to represent New York as the Junior Senator, & maybe Now she'll do something Worthwhile for Your State.

Just The Fact's sir, Only the Fact's.
I agree with those above who note Obama is unelectable.  I also agree that had MI and FL been counted at the time their votes were cast, the race would have been over then and Obambi would have gone back to the IL woods.  I did not see Ferraro this a.m. However, she represents what many, many, many have repeatedly said:  we will NOT vote for Obama under any circumstance.  It isn't about pouting HRC didn't win; it isn't about race. It's flat out about not liking the man, what he represents, his wife, his associates, his lack of experience, his arrogance, his lies and deceitfulness etc, etc, etc, I do not want a man as President who has the US leader of Hamas listed as a fundraiser on his website. Isn't it curious that Hamas supports Obama, especially when Obama had an advisor who resigned for his representing Obama in discussions with Hamas?  
Crying sexism is a very convenient excuse to avoid accepting responsibility for one's own shortcomings. We already have a president who won't accept reponsibility for his actions.  We don't need another.

These women bring shame on the rest of us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nbp3KddRvA&eurl=http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/
okay Clinton supporters, they say it's time to unite.  So, here's the plan on how WE will unite. Pass it on to every Clinton supporter you know; post it on every website you can. We're declaring Independents Day.  If Obama declares himself the winner after June 3rd, then on June 10th go to your election board and change your party affiliation to Independent. It will be another SUPER TUESDAY! If an estimated 1/3 of the party leaves on the same day maybe the Democratic party  and the pundits will finally believe us when we say under NO circumstance will we vote for Obama.
It makes me as crazy that Hillary keeps claiming a popular vote lead, which she does not have - and the media actually gives it any credence...

HOWEVER - she is probably doing Obama a favor by continuing to fight so hard and by continuing to make these (albeit patently ludicrous) claims...if Obama's supporters see him as having won - some might not see the benefit in showing up to vote - in an odd way - she may actually be helping him. And she may be helping the Democratic party -- the longer this goes on - the more Democrats who will register to vote - if it lasts for all 50 states - that is a spike in registered Democrats - that is good.
All of the new ways of winning this contest Hillary keeps coming up with ... those aren't the rules which were clearly stated PRIOR to beginning the primaries and caucuses.  It's like telling the basketball team with the highest score that the refs are going to declare the other team the winner because they had more steals and more free shots ... that's just not the rules of the game!  Yes, the Supers are going to decide the game, but it won't be because Hillary would already have won if this were the Republican race, more popular vote (only if you do count the states that they/she said wouldn't count and don't count the legal caucus victories of Obama's.  Give me a break!
If Hillary really doesn't want to try to spoil the election for Obama, she will ask her supporters not to demonstrate.  Continuing to campaign for office w/o going negative regarding Obama is one thing, but demonstrating is another and would clearly be considered going negative.
sweetie, I've spoken to people here in OK. that admit the race issue, as for KY. I don't know, I only hope that it doesn't mirror Exit Polls in W. Va. where people admitted RACE WAS AN ISSUE.  In my state frankly it was voter age more than race but for people to deny, especially when they use words like arrogance when referring to Obama it sure makes me wonder about them.  And when you refer to Senator Obama as being naive I immediately know you've read nothing about him other than mass media publication.  And do you really advocate it's wrong to decry racism when it's a fact?  Maybe you should read more and react less.
The Democrats have some repairing to do and it seems like it's going to be a long road for Obama in achieving this based on these comments. Obama is going to need all of Hillary Clinton's supporters... He can do without the inflammatory rhetoric I'm seeing from people claiming to be speaking on his behalf... http://www.enewsreference.com
****** Racism?

I do not understand how many are saying that Clinton has played the race card when PA, WV and now it looks like KY votes for Clinton instead of Obama?

98% of the African Americans voted for Obama in PA  --and this was not racist? Who really played the race card after all???  

Who was the one who stated "typical white, bible clinging, gun totting, antipathy toward others who are not like them"?  Clinton?  NOT!

So ya know folks.... the truth is the truth!  Get off the high horse and face the facts. Obama is the one who is racist!  I guarantee the majority of those who voted for him --did not care to take the time to actually READ his books!  Guaranteed!
I have to chuckle when I read all the nay-sayers that state there is no way Obama will win the GE in November. Oh contrare,  all the so-called Dems and Repubs will be eating crow.  Congratulations to Senator Obama and his ethical campaign, I look forward to voting for you in November and witnessing our 'swearing in' in January.
Guess what Hill-Raisers??
Its over BIGTIME. She can cry and Whine all she wants
She does not have the popular vote, only in her dreams she does.
Why is she going to Fla when she is done???

She is the biggest Whinner, sore loser and classless woman I have ever seen

Dear Supporters,
Why are you going the long way to give your vote, by voting for Senator CLINTON. Why do you want to waste your vote, why won't you vote for Senator Obama once and for all. Because, don't you see,  Senator Clinton have to get to gather with Senator Obama at the end. Because we as democrats have to be to gather.
Wow. It's May 20th and Obama has a HUGE lead but Clinton supporters are still talking about she can win? LOL. Ok, I'm going back to my end of primary nap that began when Hillary "won" Texas.  Bwahahaha!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Obama '08
"If Florida and Michigan were not penalized, and their primaries allowed to proceed as planned, then this would be Hillary's nomination already!  She would've won big in those states, and the momentum from those wins would have propelled her to the nomination earlier, and left Obama in the dust...in fact, I think he would've left the campaign long ago.

Just the hard facts!"


Actually, there is nothing factual about this statement.  It's your speculation on what might have happened if things had been different.   It's possible that if Obama had campaigned in Michigan and Florida he might have won.  What we do know as fact is that if you count the Michigan and Florida delegates now, Clinton still loses.  Now that - is just a hard fact to swallo, isn't it?
Hillary's people may say they will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee, but I won't vote for her if she is the nominee. I am a white female in her forties.
So many Clinton supporters along with Clinton who continue to "claim" that Obama is "unelectable", "unqualified" and "inexperienced". Please, tell me Clinton supporters, how does this help any DEMOCRAT win in November??

The time has come for ALL of us to quit rubbing salt on the wounds and start working together.

I understand how your feeling, I've felt the same way during this campaign at various points, but regardless of my PERSONAL OPINION of Hillary Clinton and her Iraq vote, as a DEMOCRAT I would be backing her up...not tearing her down, so that as DEMOCRATS, we could win in November.

There are bruised feelings on both sides but I believe most of us understand that by continuing this negative campaign against Obama and making disparaging remarks about Clinton, we are only hurting ourselves as Democrats and Americans in the long run.


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