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First thoughts: Everyone's a winner

Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:18 AM by Mark Murray
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Everyone’s a winner: Much like a children’s soccer or Tee Ball game, tonight’s contests in Kentucky (which Clinton is expected to win big) and Oregon (ditto for Obama) are going to allow everyone to walk out a winner. And that’s especially good news for Obama, because the party’s presumptive nominee is going to lose a race by 20-plus points for a second-straight week. But the bigger prize for Obama tonight is what he's claiming at an event in Iowa -- where it all began for him -- that he has earned a majority of the pledged delegates won in the Democratic contests. Per NBC’s delegate count, he needs to pick up just 25 to achieve this (not counting some Edwards delegates, which the Obama campaign has already added in to their totals). Yet as the Clinton campaign has pointed out, the milestone is only a symbolic one, but it’s still likely to be the dominant storyline tonight. By the way, if Obama picks up approximately 50 delegates tonight, then he'll clinch a majority of the pledged delegates even if you add in Michigan and Florida as they originally voted.

*** The basics: There are a combined 103 pledged delegates at stake in the two contests (51 for Kentucky, 52 for Oregon); to put that into perspective, North Carolina alone awarded 115 delegates. Most polls in Kentucky open at 6:00 am ET and close at 6:00 pm ET, although in the part of the state in the Central Time Zone, polls close at 7:00 pm ET. Oregon, meanwhile, conducts its contests by mail. In most parts of the state, ballots must be received by 11:00 pm ET, and they can be mailed in or dropped off. Per the Oregon Secretary of State Elections Division, nearly 728,000 ballots (about 36% of the vote) have been received by May 18.

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd gives his first read on today's Kentucky and Oregon primaries and provides an overview of the changing delegate math.

*** Where we stand: Obama leads in pledged delegates per the NBC hard count (1,602 to 1,444), superdelegates (303.5 to 279.5), overall delegates (1905.5 to 1723.5), the popular vote (16,157,639 to 15,583,020), and the total number of contests won (31 to 17). Note: We’re not including Texas in this contest count, given that Clinton won the primary but Obama won the caucus and netted the most total Texas delegates. A bit more on the popular vote... Without adding Florida and Michigan, as noted above, Obama leads by 574,619 votes. Adding Florida to the mix, he leads by 279,847 (16,733,853 to 16,454,006). And adding Michigan but not “uncommitted,” Clinton leads by 48,462 (16,782,315 to 16,733,853). But do note that the “uncommitted” vote was 238,168.

*** It’s the demographics, stupid: Besides the public polls, how do we know that Clinton is poised for victory in Kentucky, while Obama is sitting pretty in Oregon? According to Democratic politico Mike Berman, Obama has dominated the states with the largest or smallest black populations, while Clinton fares MUCH better in the states in between. Berman writes in his Washington Political Watch that Obama “has won 12 of the 15 contests in which the African-American population is less than 4%, and 10 of the 11 contests in which the African-American population is greater than 16%. In those 18 states where the population ranges from 4%-16%, Obama won 8, while Clinton won 11.” The African-American population for Kentucky? 7.3% For Oregon? 1.6%. As one Republican politico told us, these aren't primaries anymore; they’re census surveys.

*** Florida, Florida, Florida: In Miami today, McCain gives a speech marking Cuba independence day, and he'll use it to hit Obama on his Cuba policy. That will play well to older Cubans, but Obama's Cuba stance does play better with younger Cubans, who don't have the negative memories of their parents and grandparents. Obama heads to the state tomorrow with -- of all people -- Clinton in tow. She seemed to add her own Florida trip at the last minute. To some, it looks like an attempt to follow Obama so she can stay in the news. The big hurdle Clinton faces after tonight: There will be nearly two weeks without a primary and with an opponent not paying attention to her anymore. It's going to get harder and harder to stay relevant in the daily news cycles, particularly as Obama and McCain take dead aim at each other.

*** What have you missed… : We continue our series this week on important political moments you may have missed while knee-deep in the presidential contest. Today, we have one word for you: retirements. In both the House and Senate, Democrats are virtually assured of making gains even if McCain wins the presidency because so many House and Senate Republicans have chosen retirement. This fall, according to the Cook Political Report, Senate Republicans are going to have to defend at least five open Senate seats (in Colorado, Idaho, Nebraska, New Mexico, and Virginia), compared with zero for the Democrats. In the House, there have been 25 GOP retirements versus seven for the Democrats. And you can now add one more retirement to the House GOP list. The AP is reporting that embattled New York Rep. Vito Fossella won’t seek reelection. “This choice,” he said in a statement, “was an extremely difficult one, balanced between my dedication to service to our great nation and the need to concentrate on healing the wounds that I have caused to my wife and family.”

*** Don’t forget: By midnight tonight, the campaigns are supposed to file their April fundraising numbers with the FEC. Clinton campaign co-chair Terry McAuliffe told MSNBC’s Norah O’Donnell that Clinton’s haul would be more than $10 million -- in fact, he said it would be the Clinton campaign’s third-biggest month. According to that hint, that would place her haul somewhere between the $14 million she raised in January and the $20 million she secured in March; her biggest haul was $35 million in February. Remember, by the way, this is the fundraising report that will include the $10 million the campaign claims to have raised in the initial 24 hours after the Pennsylvania victory.

*** Down the ballot: There are some interesting House and Senate primaries in Kentucky and Oregon today. The DSCC has a little something on the line, as both of its preferred candidates in Kentucky (Lunsford) and Oregon (Merkley) are struggling to win their nominations. Lunsford should hang on, but Merkley's another story. His foe, Steve Novick, seems to be benefiting from the increased turnout of new voters created by Obama's candidacy. Does anything north of 12 points for Obama mean a Novick victory? Astoundingly, the DSCC has spent some $300,000 on Merkley's behalf, so losing would be a real embarrassment to Chuck Schumer. It's going to be a nail-biter.

*** On the trail: Clinton, along with her husband, holds her election night event in Louisville, KY former president Bill Clinton joins her; McCain, in Florida, speaks in Miami and then raises money in Ft. Lauderdale; and Obama has his election night event in Des Moines, IA.
 
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Comments

Canadian (Sent Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:24 AM)


It's not bias: obama has won a dozen landslides and Clinton just a few.  She cannot win mathmatically and Obama is way ahead on all goal posts.

SO if your Clinton:  Why bother?  Because she is up to something. . . and I'll bet it isn't all that wholesome.
It's WELL known the climate of voters in places like rural PA & MI as well as states like WV and Kentucky. It is ANY wonder why she'd win. These plaaces are NOT African American friendly...PERIOD!  Why are we dancing around the TRUTH...THEY ARE RACIST. And I be DAMNED it we should let these types of attitudes control our contry.  I'm glad the DNC aren't allowing Hillary's racist supporters strong arm them into pushing Barack out of the way for her.  Who in the hell cares about WV & KENTUCKY? I nor does any of my friends. It's time for a change and if Hillary, the KKK and her "white voters" don't wanna' move with the change America needs...Then they WILL be left behind!

Barack '08 - 2012
The idea that demographics are 'locked in' is worth looking at in greater detail.  For instance, this statement is generally correct, but not recently: "According to Democratic politico Mike Berman, Obama has dominated the states with the largest or smallest black populations, while Clinton fares MUCH better in the states in between."  Yet, West Virginia is 3.2% black, which suggests your statement is not entirely correct.  There are bigger factors than simple demographics at play in the primary, and the media should look into them.  For instance, when in modern nomination history has the presumptive nominee not one a primary on 'away' turf (e.g., why can't Obama win in W. Va.?  In Kentukcy?).  It may be demographics, but that is a bit too simple.  And will this demographic hardening hold for the general?
My, My, My, the Clintons camp love to change the rules as they deemed fit and some wants her to become President.  What is wrong with this picture.  She can't pick the right folks to help run her campaign, so what make you think she will do better with picking her cabinet members.  
Why is the BLOWOUT in WV and the soon-to-be BLOWOUT in KY being discounted?? I, for the life of me, can't understand why the Dems who support Obama aren't terrified by these losses he is sustaining. Hate to break it to everyone who writes these 2 primaries off, but West Virginians and Kentuckians will be voting in the GENERAL ELECTION. If he is to be the nominee, he will NEED these votes! He really phoned it in in KY, hope that doesn't bite him in the butt come the fall.

HRC '08
Pa voter (Sent Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:29 AM)

If he loses by a huge margin in Kentucky--who cares --he'll still win the nomination.

See ya!
Can Barack Obama's Cuba policy possibly be as ineffective as John McCain's, which hasn't done squat except win international sympathy for the Castro brothers.
Sorry Molly, et al.  Hillary simply did not win the popular vote.  Period.  Even counting the bogus elections in FL and MI - which SHE promised not to count herself! (until losing of course), those totals don't count those who voted in caucus states.  

Second, she IS the weaker candidate.  Polls show her doing worse in state-by-state matchups with McBush and pulling in less EVs.  She puts less states in play.  

Finally, what about the downticket damage Hillary would have?  In a year where everything is trending D, it would be suicide to put the most polarizing figure in American politics at the top of a ticket.  Just kiss those expected gains goodbye as disheartened Republicans come out of the coves to pull the lever AGAINST her!  

And if she really was the strongest candidate, why couldn't she beat a 47 year old 1 term senator with the entire party machinery behind her?!!!
Pat Huntington NY - Don't you have a television? Chuck Todd has run the electorial math several times and has demonstrated how Obama and Clinton can both win. Before you can make such an analysis, it is useful to point out that primary results don't always reflect what states would actually be in play in the general. That is why nobody is buying Clinton's big-state arguement. She won states that any democrat would be predicted to win based on general election history. It is when you win states that haven't been won before that things get interesting such as in the case of Obama bring previous red states into play.

Nice try anyway.
I am so excited, right now about nothing other than Senator Byrd of West Virginia endorsed Senator Obama!  I had been commenting for too long that I wished Senator Byrd would endorse Obama, a man who was once a KKK, a man who was so adamantly against Bush's lead up to Iraq and warned against him attacking, and a man who has come to change in all his years, and then he could leave the Senate, and this world when he does, with a smile on his face, he would have come full circle, to do the right thing.  I've always admired Senator Byrd's tenacity, forthrightness and bravery.  Congratulations, Senator Byrd, and Congratulations Senator Obama on a great and milestone endorsement!!  Obama '08!!!!
if you run a foot race and you have a great kick to the finish your still second place if you can see the ass of the guy in front of you

clinton may win kentuky but its to little to late obama is the nominee and we need to start rallying with him againest mcain
Dear Republicans for Obama, it is rare that I see someone in these blogs write the truth. You summed up the facts that many people, for some reason, do not want to acknowledge. It is the "cold-hard" facts whether we like it ot not. Thanks!
MD. Independent

Just Interested in the DRAMA

Florida had a property tax amendment on the primary ballot.

I for one voted on the amendment but did not vote for a presidential candidate because our votes were disenfranchised.

We knew before we voted that our votes would not count.  

Not a problem for me.  My vote will count in the GE
Somebody please tell Sen. Clinton that "it is over" and it has been for awhile.  Let's move on.  It is not about what you want, its about what is best for this Country!
Per Hillary and Bill - The delegate and the popular votes no longer matter  - it's now the ELECTORAL VOTE that makes the WINNER.  Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!


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