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Last night: Another split decision

Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:27 AM by Domenico Montanaro

With 100% of precincts reporting, Clinton beat Obama in Kentucky, 65%-30%. In Oregon, with 88% reporting, Obama bested Clinton, 58%-42%.

This Los Angeles Times headline and subhead tell the story of just how Clinton got little media credit for Kentucky win last night. The header: "Obama wins Oregon and takes step closer to winning nomination." The subhead: "He captures a majority of pledged delegates to the Democratic convention even as he loses Kentucky by a wide margin to Clinton." So Obama's win and delegate milestone get headline play and Clinton's Kentucky win gets subhead play.

That’s how many media outlets focused their stories. The New York Times says Obama “took a big step toward becoming the Democratic presidential nominee on Tuesday, amassing enough additional delegates to claim an all but insurmountable advantage in his race against … Clinton. While Mrs. Clinton’s campaign continued to make a case that she could prevail, Mr. Obama seized on the results from Democratic contests in Kentucky and Oregon to move into a new phase of the campaign in which he will face different challenges. Those include bringing disaffected Clinton supporters into his camp; winning over elements of the Democratic coalition like working-class whites, Hispanics and Jews; and fending off attacks from Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, especially on national security.”

Here are some other interesting things in the piece: Obama is “planning a vigorous schedule of travel to general election states and a voter registration drive focusing on black voters to offset any losses among whites. Aides said he was considering delivering another speech to deal with damage in the primary because of attacks on his relationship with his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., as well as on his patriotism. ‘We know we have our work cut out for us,’ said Steve Hildebrand, a deputy campaign manager for Mr. Obama. ‘But we are up to the task.’” 

Per the AP, “Speaking to some 6,000 supporters at an outdoor rally with the Iowa Statehouse as a backdrop, the Illinois senator pointed to a campaign where few gave him much of chance of winning when he started the journey a year and a half ago. He is now the likely nominee.”

The AP also slices the exit polls and notes that whites helped Clinton in Kentucky -- but not in Oregon.

KENTUCKY: The Lexington Herald-Leader: “Kentucky voters ignored mounting evidence that U.S. Sen. Barack Obama will be the Democratic presidential nominee and overwhelmingly supported U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Tuesday.” More: “But Obama snared a key consolation prize by nabbing 14 of Kentucky's 51 pledged delegates -- enough to pass a key threshold.” And: “So, in effect, Kentucky and Oregon decided very little, political observers said.”

OREGON: The Portland Tribune: “Oregon win puts Obama in driver’s seat.” “The win in Oregon gives Obama bragging rights to a majority of pledged delegates in his quest for the Democratic nomination. If Democratic ‘superdelegates’ continue to come out for Obama or switch their allegiance from Clinton, Obama could effectively wrap up the nomination in the next two weeks.” 
 
The Oregonian: “Intense interest in the Obama-Clinton battle sparked the highest voter turnout in 32 years among Democrats. Election officials reported 68 percent of Democrats cast their ballots. Overall state turnout, including Republicans, stood at 52 percent late Tuesday, with more than 1 million Oregon voters casting primary ballots.”

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She didn't get credit for Kentucky for 2 reasons: 1) this thing is over and 2) Kentucky is going to vote Republican anyway in November.  Kentucky was a non-story.
Fire up the general election bus.  It's time for Obama to take-on McCain.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
You can't win without us!  You need to deal with us!  You must respect us!
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That's not a direct quote - it's an overriding sense of what I am reading catching up on last night's posts.  

I now know why people support HRC - they are on a power trip like she is.  You WILL respect us!  You better give us what we want!  Or what - you'll hold your breath until we give in?  Please.  What are you, five?

I am a white female - how on earth am I racist if I back Obama?  Am I betraying my sex as well?  Would one of you Cliton-cronies explain this to me?

Welcome to Reality, folks.  Has he reached the magic number?  No, but she WON'T - unless she pulls off a huge coup.  If she does that, where do you think "Obamabots" will be? Yeah - at HOME.  That's not a threat - just a prediction.
quite interesting how Obama  praised Hillary in OR to try and get her voters to come to his side in the general ugly as ever.but his supporters have not gotten the message.They are still as obnoxious and ugly as ever.Guess this means he is not so good at unitin---?????Reminds me of G Bush.
The new Reuters / Zogby poll has Obama up on Clitnon nationally by 26% !

It also shows Obama leading McCain by 8%, while Clinton ties McCain.

It seems obvious that people who once voted for Clinton are now moving to Obama nationally.  It is also clear that Obama is going to be a juggernaut once the Dems fully unite.  I foresee a 20 point lead coming out of Denver.
quite interesting how Obama  praised Hillary in OR to try and get her voters to come to his side in the general .but his supporters have not gotten the message.They are still as obnoxious and ugly as ever.Guess this means he is not so good at uniting---?????Reminds me of G Bush.
The honor that was bestowed on Iowa last night was particularly poignant. Senator Obama is not a user. He is truly grateful for his supporters faith, and trust in his leadership. He gave credit where credit was due. By doing so, he actually turned one win into two. We celebrated Oregon, and Iowa again.
Obambi targeting black voters?  Isn't that racist?  
Another speech to distance himself from Rev Wrong?
Since March 1, he has been out-voted by about 500,000 actual votes cast.
November doesn't look good.
Wake up Dems!
Hillary Clinton once again grossly mislead the people after her win in Kentucky just the way the Clintons and Washington have done for years, all of her self touting for the nomination just ahead for "one" of them and then state "I will support the nominee no SUV's, can't eat what you want and don't run your air" And no one is even coverin it a day later- how socialist is this guy- I do not care what Europe thinks about what I eat or the Temp on my AC unit- I live in ALABAMA- i'ts hot here in the summer-sometimes old people with their Air off actually die from the heat- I bet his house is 72 degrees right now or in the middle of summer in Chicago
Exactly...A man FULL on grace...What we have watched in the last three weeks is Barack Obama being a great and loving and considerate and noble winner..
I've grown to see he is not one to pridefully enact or embolden his situation....
We could see after Pennsylvania was only a 10 point lose, that he was there...he had arrived...
I salute you sir. Your a gentleman, a kind we have not had the pleasure to see in this country in many years...and we will be honored to have you as our next President of these United States...
As usual, the media punditry spin the "large" wins by the HRC campaign into why Obama can't win the "white blue-collar" vote. Well, let's take a look at McCain's losses in the primaries by huge margins
- each percentage listed is his loss margin to the winner in that state:

Utah - 85% (!!!)
Colorado - 40%
West Virginia - 46%
Kansas - 36%
Maine - 31%
Nevada - 38%
Arkansas - 40%
Alaska - 30%
Minnesota - 20%

But McCain has never been questioned whether he can compete in these states effectively, has he?

Also, Barack has trounced Hillary in more states by wider margins than vice versa.

Let's put a stop to this notion that he can't win these states, especially if he campaigned effectively. Let's also not forget that the Clinton brand name has been established for over 20 years now - she has a former popular President campaigning non-stop for her, plus his entire machinery.

Given all of that, for Obama to pull off a win against overwhelming odds (I wonder what the London bookies had his odds at the beginning of the campaign) is an amazing feat, not to mention the fact that his campaign is at a surplus of $30 million, hers is in a deficit of $30 million.

Spin that on MSM.

Let's move on and focus on McCain.

Obama '08
The general is near. I believe that the republicans are in real trouble, regardless of the fact that Obama is an african american. Some states will not vote for him, in part, because he's not the traditonal looking candidate- but more will, when having to chose between Bush/McCain. Senator Clinton proved her point of still have strong supporters from the base. Question....now what? The general has started, without her, and there is nothing she can do to change those facts. Women vote for her because she is a woman, not the most honest or the person with the most integrity. She raced baited and played any card ever invented. Kentucky thought the gas tax was a good idea. That tells America that there is nothing greater than a higher education. Uneducated people believe what they hear without question, educated people research the facts and then decides the best course. I'm not bashing the uneducated voters; but would America be a super power without the educated segment?? No, we would be a third world nation. Let's roll to the General election.
Tramayne, Newport News VA (Sent Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:38
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This is some of the most well written garbage I've seen from an obamidiot.

A.  Women don't vote for Clinton because she is a woman but blacks do vote for obama because he is black.

B.  Education does not equal intelligence and common sense earned through lifes experience.  In fact most "highly educated" individuals live on a campus in an ivory tower existence and have no real clue about life itself until after they escape the apron strings of university life.

C. To state that the so called uneducated vote without researching or understanding the issues at habd is exactly the type of tripe one woulkd expect from the nasty vile arrogan condescending supporters of a lying arrogant condescending hypocrite racist like obama.

Have a nice day.

Life long moderate Dem voting Republican in November.
First Read: Typical you wouldn't have a headline asking "why" Obama can't seal the deal.  Does it not concern people that he's been "annoited" by the press for months now. Yet, look at what's happened in the last several states.  When you have a "presumptive" nominee, how does BO explain losing by 41% in one state and 35% in the next?  In the article, it mentions he's going to give another speech related to Wright.  That should be interesting. What fairytale will he tell about that now?  Patriotism?  He listened to anti-American crap for 20 yrs with Wright. He hangs out with Bill Ayers. One of his fundraisers is the head of the US Hamas. His wife spews negative, anti-American crap. When BO speaks now, we know it's just more political spin.  But, maybe he will tell us how on Sun Iran was a minor threat and yesterday he said it was a dangerous threat.  Hope he wears his flipflops; they might look good on that stuffed suit.
Kentucky: Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
I've been a Democrat since before I was even able to vote, and I've been an Obama supporter since 2004.  When this primary campaign started I was more then ready to vote for Hillary this November because I figured she would have the nomination.  Not any longer.  At this point she would have to steal the nomination to get it.  If she is on the ballot I can promise you that I am one democrat that will be writing in the REAL democratic nominee's name when I vote if Hillary steals this nomination.

Obama '08 its time to turn the page.
She get's No headline's because a Loser deserves No headlines ! Even My fellow redneck's in Kentucky know that, as 54% of them said Barack would be the nominee.The MSM is allowing Hillary to continue by buying into Any storyline her campaign throws out there.Thankfully, the American Public is'nt buying what either is Selling.

This endless series of Intertubes is a Wonderful thing, Huh?
Here is a telling example of how Clinton and Obama see themselves as candidates:

In their respective wishes for Senatoe Kennedy, Clinton felt compelled to mention how she worked with Senator Kennedy on various bills. Obama on the other hand paid tribute to the man and extended his best wishes.

One apprach sought to capitalize on Kennedy's misfortune by associating Kennedy with personal accomplishments (real or imagined) while the other was a heart felt expression of support.
Leah in ALA AND MAD (Sent Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:48 AM)

I am confused.  Who are you supporting in your post?  If you are a Republican, do you think their energy policies are going to help you AFFORD your A/C in the Alabama summer?

I think it's refreshing to have someone say "you can't do_____".  It's called REALITY.  What is it about Americans that we think we are the only ones in the world and everyone else be damned?
Has anyone told Clinton that NO Democrat will win in WVa or Ky?  THEY'LL GO TO MCCAIN!!! So, big deal, she won two states that'll go for Mccain anyway.  Kind of a phoney victory, wouldn't you say?
Why didn't "Desperate" Hillary win both last night?  Where were all the white poeple from Oregon who supposedly won't vote for Barack?  Why didn't she seal the deal last night?

She's lost and there's just no more fooling the majority of the people as to who the rightful Democratic Party presidential candidate is, the great Barack Obama - the only electable candidate in November!

Go Obama 08/12!
Obama has a difficult argument to make. He needs to demostrate before the convention how he will get the 270 electoral college votes he needs. As it looks right now among strong/leaning, Clinton would have 224 with 132 "swing" that could go either way. Obama only has 194 with 200 "swing' in play. Clearly Clinton is better positioned to actually WIN the general election. Obama needs to demonstrate how he acually can get to 270 and I've heard no one on the Obama campaign address this, and make a compelling argument about how he will do this. THATS THE REAL STORY MSNBC,why dont you talk about that?
Oh and I love all the bought and paid for bloggers obama has!  Far more than the SD's he has paid off.
Got to love a con man running his game on shills to blind to see the sleight of hand!
I'd like to bring up the interview Chris Matthews had with Clinton supporter Lisa Caputo(sp?) concerning the exit polls in KY concerning race.

Did anyone else notice that he sort of boxed her in and almost had her apologizing when he stated that the exit polling of "working -class white voters" openly delared that race was very important in their decision to vote for HRC?

I almost fell to the floor upon hearing this.  Finally, someone had the sack to say on national television what most folks have known since HRC decided to specifically target that certain group of  voters!

The Clinton campaign pointedly stopped trying to court the AA vote after the SC primary and aimed their focus on "working-class whites".

My point is not to disrespect those voters, but to highlight that it was at this point in the primary process when the Democratic Party split racially.

We have yet to recover. So, my question is this:

What will/can HRC do to try and repair the rift she helped create?
But isn't it ironic that even though he lost in Ky, THIS was the state that gave him the majority of delegates and a step closer to the nominee? Thanks Kentucky! I think that's hysterical! Now turn yourselves red for Nov because you're uneducated!
Obama is Yahead of her nationally, by as many as 14 to 26 points, depending on the poll, Also, he has received significantly more money from MANY more donors. So, I am tired of this fear mongering that he is unelectable! Just have the courage to say you don't like him, but stop with the electability arguments, please. Many folks don't like Hillary either, but that goes unmentioned. She lost some states by HUGE margins too, another fact that goes unreported.
The primary is NOT an electoral race.  The primary is a delegate race.  The Obama campaign planned accordingly and that strategy has paid off.  I understand HRC supporters are disappointed; been there, done that myself, many times.  But it is what it is at this point.  She's in debt and doesn't have the numbers.  Some of the DINOs will move to McCain, which makes little sense, frankly, but the Democrats will get behind their nominee.  Democrats realize that McCain's loudly proclaimed intentions of overturning Roe and his so-called health plan would be disastrous.  Democrats realize that HRC and Obama have very similar platforms and McCains is worlds apart from those.  Democrats realize that personality politics won't work, it's time to vote on the issues and our interests.  

If you support thousands more of our kids dying in Iraq, by all means, vote McCain.  If you want Roe overturned, vote McCain.  If you're proud of Gitmo and torture, vote McCain.  If you don't cherish habeas corpus, vote McCain.  

But I don't want to hear any complaints if you elect him.  When our kids die in Iraq, when reproductive choice is gone, when our economy finishes tanking, your home is foreclosed, and you can't get health insurance, not a peep out of you.  Take your ball and go home, but live with the consequences.

Some of you Obama supporters need to learn not to gloat.  Some of you HRC supports need to curb your tongues as well.  Neither of you are doing this nation any favors by deepening this division.  Your candidates are behaving better than you are; try and emulate them.  It's time to act like adults and do what is best for the future of our children.  Swallow your pride and your egos and quit hammering each other.  The stakes are too high.
Leah in ALA AND MAD

So greed is the way to go?  Survival of the fittest?  Let the rest of the world starve to death, while we dine on steak and lobster?  Hoard all the oil, and natural resources because we're the only ones who matter?  
A Message to the Voters of Florida

At the convention cast 100% of your delegates for Hillary.  Hilllary is fighting for you to have your voice heard, to have your vote count.  Obama does not care about you.  He is afraid to have you count because it may mean he will loose the nomination.  Is this the kind of President we want?

Don't we deserve a President who stands up for us even when it difficult to do, even when the odds are against us, even when we needs to stand up against Obama and say-no Obama stop we voters in Florida count. We are voting for Hillary because she is fighting for us; she cares about us.

Stand up for your rights, Florida
Florida unite behind Hillary

Anne, PA
Here's the truth interspersed with some recommendations:

1) RCP shows Obama ahead of Hillary by 12.5%.  The national Democratic electorate is coalescing around the presumptive nominee.

2) The nomination is determined - per the DNC rules - by delegates and not popular vote, popular vote from state to state is like adding apples to oranges since some states caucus and some have primaries - there is no way to calculate the actual popular vote and if there was, I think it is safe to say that Obama would be the winner.

3) The winner of the primary in a particular state has absolutely no bearing on who will win the state in the General Election (a point made many times by many pundits and many who comment on this site).  Blue states will be blue and red states will be red except for those put into play. Obama can put more red states into play than can Hillary.

4) Hillary did not win Texas, it was at best, for her, a split decision even though Obama won more delegates.  In fact even though Nevada is listed as a win for Hillary, Obama won more pledged delegates from the state.

5) Southeastern Ohio, central and western Pennsylvania, Kentucky and West Virginia make of the nation of Appalachia and unfortunately the good people of this region are still living in a time fifty years ago - it will take time for them to get used to the idea of a president who is not white but Obama will have to catalyze the process.

6) The popular vote argument made by Hillary is sophistry since she ran in two elections (Florida and Michigan) which she herself deemed irrelevant before those elections and whose importance she now defends, out of self advancement and not principle.

7) A revote in Michigan would be illegal because there are voters who could not vote again, (it's a cross-over state) since they voted in the Republican primary, not thinking that the Democratic primary would count.  Perhaps it would be best to allot delegates based on a Michigan Democratic Party caucus (taking into account the results of the spurious primary).  Perhaps the same could be done in Florida.  (Obama would win Michigan and Hillary would likely win Florida but the outcome would not alter the outcome of the nomination).

Bottom line: this psychosis is not an exercise in democracy; it is the politics of a maniacal group that refuses to admit defeat.  The Democratic Party establishment whose machines delivered the big blue states cannot believe that the poorly run Clinton campaign has lost.  Well, it has and this is because the demographics of the voting electorate changed dramatically.  It's time for the super delegates to put us all out of our misery and endorse the winner of the pledged delegates.  We need to get onto the business of defeating the water boy of the Bush administration.  I don't know if this country can stand '4 more years'.
Obama '08
Paul of Indianapolis:

With Clinton's baggage and court issues going on that the Repugnicans would swiftboat her on, what makes you think she would get the 270 electoral votes in the general election? Even if she were to steal this nomination from Obama, she would be stopped in her tracks at the convention by all of her devisive tactics in the primaries and her husband's impeachment as well as the "sniper fire" lie being used against her. I would rather vote for someone new and fresh with no real known baggage than someone I DO know with too much baggage.

Obama/Sebelius '08!
Paul,

He will win by pulling in states (like Oregon, Colorado, Virginia, Iowa) that he won by HUGE margins over Clinton.  The states like West Virginia that Bill Clinton won are not necessarily "must haves" for a democrat to win 270 EVs.  Personally, I think that the polls in places like PA and even OH are promising simply because the general hasn't even started, and Obama is running either ahead or right behind McCain.  The moment that they start debating in front of a national audience, the GOP is going down.  Who knows, maybe my state, TX will go to the Dems this year...Obama is only running 5 points behind here, and this is a pretty reliable Repub. state!  So, if people vote their pocketbooks and their frustrations with this war, McCain doesn't HAVE any strong Republican states...over 75% of this country hates where we're going.  The moment Obama links this war to all the troubles we're having here (i.e. we're paying for a war, just not in govmt. bonds, but in gas and food prices) people will come around.
"This is some of the most well written garbage I've seen..."

Dear FedUpDem, Washington, DC,

Please familiarize yourself with the definition of "irony" -- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony -- before you troll again.
Again, it looks like Clinton plans on strong-arming the supers behind closed doors.  there is literally NO other way for her to win. So screw what Americans vote for (clearly, Obama), or the delegate count (again, for Obama), and use that Clinton rap to shake her fists in the supers' faces until they comply.  you give me any other scenario by which this could happen for her. So tell me, then, what she intends to do/manipulate/strong-arm/bully....  Nice.
FedUpDem, Washington, DC

Hillary is the one paying bloggers and........

Superdelegates Turned Down $1 Million Offer From Clinton Donor

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/19/superdelegates-turned-dow_n_102450.html
I would be truly shocked if a large portion of HRC supporters and indies will vote against their own economic interest just because they are dissatisfied with the Dem. nominee. Why would a so called white-working class man making $8.00 an hour vote republican? I would like to suggest(instead of just chalking it up to blatant racism)that a few short classes in civics and amer. gov. be offered to the voting registrants in these so called white-working class regions of the country. This is the 21st century, and we as citizens of the USA have evolved from a societal point of view....right?    
"They are still as obnoxious and ugly as ever.Guess this means he is not so good at unitin" --NObama-MI

Thank you as always for being such a shining example of graciousness and manners. Thank you for eschewing divisiveness and for uniting and bringing us together. You have won me over to you side with your nuance, wit and wisdom. Uh, exactly what side are you on?
It's amazing that the MSM talking heads have totally missed the surprise in Oregon, where the supposed "close" race turned into a rout by Obama.  She was supposedly within 5 points in Oregon, but she lost by 16 points, an 11-point drop.  That's real news, not that KY voted just the way everyone thought it would.  

Instead of covering the story impartially, the MSM, thirsty for some more racial politics, also missed the fact that Hillary loses Oregon or Washington to McCain (according to current polls) and Obama takes both.

The Pacific NW states are swing states that the Dems need to take to win in the fall.  That fact has barely been mentioned.

The truth is that every election is about total votes, not just the sliced and diced subgroups that are a "problem" for one candidate or the other.  Obama leads Clinton by 16 points in the latest Gallup tracking poll.  

In the general election (if held today), Obama would trounce McCain in PA, NY, NJ and many other states won by Hillary.  He is in a statistical dead heat with the unvetted McCain in MI, OH and FL, and he'll likely take those states once Hillary is out of the picture.  That alone will be enough for Obama to trounce McCain.  Do we really want to base our futures upon what some racist uneducated Hill(ary)billies in Appalachia have to say?  No way!  Obama more than makes up the difference in THIS year's swing states -- CO, NM, VA, NC, SC, GA, LA, IA.

There's an Obama tsunami on the way, but the MSM and Republicans are picking up fish flopping on the beach as the sea moves out.  That tsunami will wash away the GOP and all the racists who would vote with them.  But to the rest of America, Obama's election will be merely a gentle rising tide that raises everyone's boats.
It is concerning how much emphasis your analysts place on winning the "white" vote in this state, and the prior one of WVa., or in PA. Why do they count more than the AA vote?  Why do "working class whites" count more than "college educated" whites?  Why do you feel so comfortable with this as your main platform? If your argument is one that "working class whites" won't vote for an AA president, then is it your suggestion that we never nominate one, due to this bias?  We should just accept this as normal for this country, or worse,  allow it to be exploited it for their own political agendas?  Is this really who we are as a nation?  Is this who you are as a news organization?

What does this say regarding the character of  Hillary Clinton or John McCain to accept the votes of racist white people and be grateful for it?  Or should they take the position as John Edwards did when he stated " if you are voting against him and for me because he is black, then please don't vote for me."  Because that would be leadership, and show true character.
Clinton's 'not-so-fast' self-adulation take on KY was overbearing.  As another responder commented, her comments re: Senator Kennedy had to include attagirls for herself.  Her phoney, all smiles and sweetness at these rallies are bogus and to me taunting examples of her hubris.
Let her carry on her charade as she is determined to get her way in this primary & has everyone carrying her bags.  She sets the rules and everyone else better comply while she moans that the race has been sexist.  Her triumph is that the superdelagates and the media dare not interfere with her spoiled and selfish agenda.
The Clintons had their day in the sun and must find a way to coerce their reign.  They stop at nothing.
Mr. Obama has risen above their fray on many occasions and without justified malice has maintained a first class primary season.  I honor his decency.
Why can't Hillary Clinton ever win the better-educated
voters?   Time after time, she fails to win them.

Could it be she can only win voters who get most of
their information from Jeopordy and comic books?
"Factoid"....it was a split decision.
Fact......any night when Obama wins one & loses one is a WIN for Obama. It does not matter whether you score in the 1st or 9th inning...all runs count.Hillary lost this 2 months ago when Obama won 12 in a row. Bye, bye...drip-drip-drip.
Chuck - What the big story should be is how well Clinton did in Oregon in addition to trouncing Obama in Kentucky when all of the media has been saying Hillary can't win.  You know how people love to back winners, right?  The superdelegates should and are staying on the fence because deep down inside they know Hillary can win the general and they have deep doubts about Obama's ability to do so.  Also, stop dissing KY and W. VA voters because of their honesty on the race issue.  What none of you are getting is it is not that they are racist.  Due to the Reverend Wright problem, they have reason to believe that Senator Obama shares his black separatist views.  Therefore, they view race as important, because they think Senator Obama and his wife share those racist views.  You are not being fair to those voters in not bringing up this issue as their stated "race" problem in this fascinating "race."
Why are Hillary supporters so afraid of Obama? Do they really think McCain will be better?

If Hillary gets the nomination I will not be surprised. But her supporters should not gloat until after she's been in office and has done some of the things she says she will do. If she actually does something that does not serve her own interests I will be very surprised.


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