It is the delegates that drive O-bomb-a to win most of the states. The problem is that these delegates are not exactly reflecting what the majority of their
constituents want --- Oh yes, these delegates were chosen by the majority thinking they can do the good thing. But when the right opportunity comes, they pick their self-interest first over the people's, i.e., ensure their own re-election by siding with O-bomb-a being the FLAVOR-OF-THE-MONTH regardless the risks/costs associated with it (WHAT A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!!!). They are just betting on the fact that their candidate (on training wheels) can win over McCain because of the hype he's generating being an eloquent speaker --- you know, talk is cheap and he can be a good car salesman or a pastor or life coach in another life. It is a fact that the entire nation is sick with a lame duck President. This Mr. Oh-bomb-a loves to reference the past great presidents in this nation to promote his agenda
but quite frankly he's not within the leagues of Reagan and Roosevelt at all and this DOES NOT QUALIFY HIM A LEADER BY NAME-DROPPING. People, ask yourself, what is his work ethics? What is his claim to fame? Just because he has a spotless record does not mean he is Superman or SuperSavior (IMHO, he's more of a
SuperGreenhorn). A message of hope without a plan is useless but a lot of followers does not even have an inkling that he is preying on their emotions --- beware of the Snake Oil Salesman.  This is a total disservice to what true American patriotism stands for.

It will be sad day for America because a person on training wheels have a great likelihood of sitting in the top position in DC and will only worsen what Bush has started. The only true hope is that a Republican insider like McCain can set us back in the right direction. He is experienced enough to know what missteps Bush made and wise enough to remedy it. The Republican party (nor the Democratic Party) is not perfect. McCain in several cases disagrees with Bush but since he has no authority over him, what can he do? I don't think switching parties to become a Democrat from a Republican will solve the problem. The only way is to bide his time within the party and if he is elected, IT BECOMES THE RIGHT MOMENT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE NATION (so technically I don't believe he's flip-flopping but more of positioning himself at the right place and at the right time).

Let's face it, the next President will need to fix Iraq and economy first and then face the rogue states. The only change needed in DC is to identify the road blocks and remove the person(s)/policies causing the red tape and not totally changing everything as what O-bomb-a is harking because total change can ONLY MAKE MATTERS WORSE THAN EVER. A good case are several 3rd world nations where dictatorial leadership/administration is totally changed thru votes, uprising, etc. and nothing came good out of it (Iraq, Philippines, Haiti, etc).

Vote using your head, not your heart. The Democratic Party is making this election like a soap-opera by tugging the hearstrings of the majority of NAIVE Americans not satisfied with the Bush legacy !!!

Remember:
Oh-bomb-a + Selfish Delegates = Total destruction of the nation whose mess was started by GWBush

This is so pathetic...women are allowing her to use them to push her own agenda.

LADIES PLEASE...DON'T BUY INTO THIS BULLSH@#T

Am I the only one who is concerned about how Senator Clinton has managed the finances of her campaign and wonders how that would translate to the Presidency?  I'm just curious as to how we can expect her to turn the deficit into a surplus (or at least decrease it) when she overspent money in her own campaign and is now in serious debt.  Is that how she would manage the federal budget?

For all those looking at the primary results as an indication of how Obama might do in the general, please visit www.realclearpolitics.com and check out the polls for the battleground states.  It's amazing stuff!  The most shocking of all?  Obama beats McCain in Michigan but Senator Clinton doesn't! HA! :-)  Obama also wins states that Senator Clinton doesn't and vice versa.

On a final note, some think the general election will be decided on issues such as health care, national security, the economy etc. but I think it may be a lot simpler than that.  It may actually be decided on three simple issues:

Patriotism - Does Obama come off as patriotic enough against the war hero (ultimate demonstration of patriotism) in the eyes of independents and swing voters who will decide the election.

Familiarity - Obama hasn't been on the national scence long enough but McCain has and people feel they know him well.  Obama however does also have a record of decades of public service.  Do the independents and swing voters feel they know him enough and feel comfortable with him?

Race - Do enough people look beyond his race and vote for him.

Stop already. You lost.

My Goodness!!  Why doesn't she just LEAVE!?!  She can't win!  And she is taking valuable time away that Obama needs to be intimate with the American People!!  Why is she so SELFISH!!??

Hillary please quit trying to get the people confused, Obama is the winner and he is who we choose.  It is now time for you to leave the race and be a good sport.

why now hillary? i think that  the call for the voite should be the dnc, not you after all there is a little detail, with your name on it, but then again your word have never been worth much

Still waiting for the graceful exit?????

I think it's wayyyy too late for that !!!
Sheesh !

IS SHE STILL AROUND OR AM I HAVING A NIGHTMARE!!!

I started out last year not liking Hillary Clinton because of her war vote, her Kyl-Lieberman support, and her flag-burning anti-free-speech bill.  But after more than a year of her campaigning, I can say, without reservation, that I despise her now with the burning hot passion of a 1000 white-hot suns.  She doesn't deserve anything but a one-way ticket back to New York.  And if they want to keep her, they're nuts!

she said. “I personally believe these caucuses are terribly unrepresentative".
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Hmmm. Something tells me she would be singing a different tune if she had WON....or even been competitive in the caucuses.

The people have spoken Hillary.....and they did NOT choose you.

Hillary is the only hope this party has.
Without her at THE TOP of the Democratic ticket, we are doomed to be defeated (yet again) by the Repuiblicans and John McCain.
ObamaNIACS can yell and scream all they want.....at the end of the day their candidate is just another Michael Dukakis.

Facts prove that all of Hillary’s recent wins have been due to the white racist dividend that she wholeheartedly embraces and rechristens “white-working class.” Why does the media mimic this hogwash and refuse to charge her with relishing one of the most disgusting facets of our history and culture? She continues to be the ugliest, dirtiest politician imaginable. Imagine if this was Germany and she was embracing Neo-Nazis and referring to them as “white Christians.”

She thinks caucuses are unrepresentative because she lost them, and she never had a problem with punishing FL and MI before she started losing.

I can't believe anyone is still buying this bullsh**

Broken? So quit breaking it with ridiculous and fabricated calculus & fallacious arguments.  Oh brother!

Hey Chuck - Can FR find another time, before the onset of this nomination, that Clinton has expressed the need to change the way we elect presidents?

Joe Vidden... Name Calling is not a great mark of intelligence. Oh wait, you Clinton supporters are proud that you are uneducated. Kudos to you then!

The problem with Clinton's argument is that she doesn't want to count all the votes, she wants to count most of the votes in michigan and florida, and just pretend the 45% of michigan that voted anybody-but-clinton don't really matter.

So now, nearing the end of the Primary, she decides to attack the DNC directly; in spite of agreeing to all of the rules when the first rulings came down on states moving up their primary(s) in an un-authorized fashion?

Super Delegates need to protect the party at this point!

Here's the deal:

You can't determine the clear intent of the voters.

OK, most who voted Hillary in Florida meant to, similarly Obama in Florida. But how many people didn't vote because they were told it didn't count? How many people just voted for the name they recognized without any knowledge of the other candidate? How many of those would have changed their minds if there had been any campaigning in the state?

Then Michigan is a far greater mess. How many people voted Clinton because neither Obama nor Edwards was available? How many 'undecided' would have voted Edwards? How many didn't vote because their candidate was not on the ballot?

It's despicable to attempt to claim the Michigan vote should stand, and disingenuous to claim that Florida was a truly fair representation of the educated choice of all Floridians.

What's more, the states should be punished for breaking a very clearly stated party rule with very clearly stated consequences. To seat their delegations in full would only encourage a bigger mess next time around than the farce we're having already.

Last night, on MSNBC they said that if Hillary tried to push too far on the illegal delegates.....

The party elders would come down on her like a ton of bricks
They'd all go to Obama at one time
(rather than dribbling out to him)

In short, they'd give Hillary the (well deserved) bum's rush

NOBODY'S BUYING Hillary's self-serving games

The party is moving on....
NO MORE CLINTON CORRUPTION

Keep on pounding away Hillary.

You are the only answer to Save America.

We need solutions, not rhetoric and the same old same old.

Your solitions will bolster the economy which is in a tail spin.

Lead from Day One.  Get things done.

Hillary in '08

Take it to the convention floor if you have to.

Have a good knock down drag 'em out debate.

State your case and have Obama stat his.

In the end Hillary will be the winner

Is no one questioning her flip-flop from signing a document agreeing not to participate (taking away the votes)in FL and MI and her stance now as "the fighter" to get their votes counted??? There are two issues, 1) should FL and MI votes been taken away, 2) The Clinton campaign's flip-flop. I've not seen any journalist press the campaign on the second issue. When the question is brought up, the Clinton campaign responds saying the votes should count, again the question is when and why did she change here stance on this. To me this is like her voting for the war, then saying she thought it was to force diplomacy or her voting for the banking bill, then hoping it wouldn't pass. She is either a flip-flopper or somone who can't extend her thinking out two steps...If I don't participate in the election, then the votes won't count, and if the votes don't count, the delagates won't be seated. Someone from MSNBC please press the campaign on this.

Does she think that we FORGOT that she agreed that FL and MI would not count?

Gee, I don't remember her criticizing the nominating process when she was the prohibitive favorite.

Obama recently had agreed to the split of Michigan, however, Clinton rejected it because it wasn't what SHE wanted!  

Will someone tell her to please to stop lying and just SHUT UP!

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I'm from a small town in central Ohio &, up untill last night, I was a CLinton suppporter. After hearing Obama compliment & praise her - trying to repair the Democratic damage that I now see that SHE has caused - then hearing her insist that all of my neighbors' votes for Obama 2 months ago will NOT COUNT! I converted because she's trying to make a case that she - knowingly & WILLINGLY - acknowledged that the MI/FL votes would NOT be counted after moving up their primary, & knew that the 2 states delegations would be PUNISHED for it! NOW they matter to her! 48 states followed the rules, 2 didn't: now all of our votes will be overturned because of Clinton's selfish, erogant, "republican-esque" deviance! And then to LIE to those poor people in the Appalachians; promising them things she will NEVER provide; playing on their biases of people of color, "fanatical" preachers, "gas tax holidays", etc.!!! Diplorable!!!!!!

WOW!!! Am I glad that my eyes are FINALLY opened! I can NOT support a "candidate" who shrugs off the needs & wishes of the people & panders to the biasness of the corrupt ones "in charge"!!! Nor can I support an "indiviual" who intentionally injects race & sexism into each speech she makes, attempting to make herself look as though she's being "picked on"! Give me a break!!! As a middle-aged woman, I have NEVER behaved like a little girl to get my way!!!

Hillary Clinton - along with John McCain - is setting the women's movement BACK 100 years! REAL women should stand up & DEMAND Hillary Clinton repair HER OWN damage & immediately STOP the immature, UNPROFESSIONAL, & destructive behavior before she hands the presidency back to the republicans in November!!!

I'm for Obama in 2008 - If Hillary Clinton is NOT rewarded with, and PERMITTED to, STEAL this nomination away from him OR force herself onto his ticket as VP!!!!!!

So now she wants to change it for the 2012 election.  You know if she is behind in 2012 she will saying it's not fair.  We should have left it like it was in 2008.

Come on Hillary, please the right thing, please!

Pathetic! are there any cards left for her to play? Next, she will be telling us that the MSM is against her and preventing her from being elected because she was "born a poor black child".  Does she have enough time to make PR the 51st state? Get working on that Hillbilly!
Suck it up HRC and take the responsibility for your own failed campaign.  This was your election to loose and you did, through no ones fault but your own!

It's time for the Clintonites to grow up and stop throwing sour grapes.  Get behind the Democratic candidate and let's beat McSame!  There is way too much at stake for our country's future than to keep whining about the nominating process.  It's over and Obama won.  I know, you think that you're smarter (although probably less educated - sorry, but that's Hillary's proud demographic) than the millions who support Obama, but it's time to focus on the larger issue rather than being hung up on your ego.

“I personally believe these caucuses are terribly unrepresentative. … [And] I think that what’s happened with Florida and Michigan raises serious questions about the principles of our party.”

THIS is why people don't trust a word from hillary's lying mouth. she had no problem with caucuses until she starting losing 'em! she had no problem with florida & michigan being stripped of their delegates when she thought she wouldn't need them; now they're invaluable. and she has the gall to used the word "principles?"

what a disgusting excuse for a politician. and a poor representative of true, all-powerful womanhood. what a stain on the democratic party hillary clinton and her raggedy campaign have left!

Joe Vidden.

Stop, already!  She lost, you know, she lost.  Deal with reality, and how best to get Senator Obama elected in November.  Unless of course, you are stupid enough to want four more years of Bush-like policies.

ObamaNIACS can yell and scream all they want.....at the end of the day their candidate is just another Michael Dukakis.

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:10 PM)

What does that make Hillary Clinton?

Gary Hart? Jesse Jackson?

Will all of you stop it! Seriously! The us vs. them thing is getting ridiculous. I understand people don't like being on a losing side. Hillary will be beat. It's basically done. Sure the votes of uneducated, poor people matter. Their vote matters as much as the next citizen. Does the country want uneducated people making decisions? I suspect not. This contest is based on delegates, not votes. Should a baseball game decided by who gets the most strikeouts instead of runs? Come on! The rules of the game were set. Popular vote is not what wins this primary. D-e-l-e-g-a-t-e-s…hello, is this thing on?

Bottom line - the country is headed in the wrong direction. Hillary is not and will not be the answer. Stop voting with your heart and vote with your head. To all the Hillary supporters who are "bitter" about the impending defeat: If you don't like Barack, then stay home in November. That way we couldn't blame you for another 4 years of George W. Bush.

Have a nice day-

Sen. Clinton is daily proving that she cannot be trusted with leadership. When she continues to voice out sentiments like this, what is she teaching generations to come about obeying rules? What is she telling us about sticking to our words, when she signed an agreement and turn around to start blackmailing the party? If care is not taken Sen. Clinton may go down as the one that destroyed the democratic party in year 2008.

*****Wow !! How convenient !

NOW that Sen. Obama has the majority of pledged delegates ---he's off to Florida!
Where was he several months ago when Floridians needed him most????  Answer --on the beach in St. Thomas!  Now that he seems to have wrapped this up---suddenly he's singing a different tune!

How convenient of him!  Trust me  --Floridians are not that stupid and come November --they will remember!

Why aren't you challenging Clinton's ridiculous popular vote claim?  I read a post about it this morning that seems appropriate: http://www.ourrepublicblog.com/2008/05/media-fails-to-challenge-clintons.html

Trench warfare has begun. Hillary is deliberatly open with her efforts to divide the party on gender and race, create enough bitternesss to weaken and defeat Obama in November, while smacking the DNC across the mouth for their silly rules and paving a path of destruction for their convention with every intention of mounting her campaign for 2012.  It's clear what she is doing and she has said it.  The democrat leadership is foolish, conceding, wobbly and without principle to permit Obama to carry all the water while they cower over Hillary.  Disgusting.

Take out the caucus states...add Fl and MI...and Hillary has this thing all wrapped up. Are the goal posts even in the stadium anymore? So what she is really saying is that Obama will win, but it won't be representative of the voters.
I voted in a caucus state. I drove 1 hour in snow and ice to cast my vote....but I am unrepresentative.
Thanks for marginalizing my vote, Hillary. Thanks for saying that the 4 hours I spent, exercising my constitutional right was somehow not valid.
Every superdelegate from caucus states should immediately rise up and cast their support to Obama.

Can anybody make her go away far away. I am so tired of this primary until I am not looking forward to the general. I was so excited about this election. You make think I'm kidding but it Hillary steals this election, I will stay home and encourge as many people I can to stay home because she just want this nominee to make history and I convinced she cares lest for the American people and I cannot understand why people cannot see this. Hillary is the author of confusion along with Bill. Please, please make them go away.

I am an Obama supporter from Florida . I was informed by the DNC that the Florida primary would not count. I and thousands other Obama supporters stayed home as a result. If the DNC now decides to count the primary results we will file suit in federal court.

Why is it that Senator Clinton thinks she has the authority to make up any rules she wants so long as they benefit her and give her the illusion that she leads in a category when she does not lead in any category whatsoever!

i am so tired on Clintonites making up and revising  election rules to fit their distorted view of the primary process.

you LOST fair and square by the rules you agreed to when this process began. just because you ran a mismanaged and unorganized campaign (which reaffirms that you are unable to manage a campaign let alone a country)does mean you get to make up any barometer you choose to steal an election.

GO HOME! and take Bill with you please!

My fellow Americans...Pander this for a moment.

Obviously any sane minded person would know Hillary Clinton does not have a chance in becoming the Democratic Nominee.  

SO, what is all her madness about?  Well, I think I have it.

She has been playing the race card, I.E. - Hard working white Americans...KY, WV and the like.

She has won largely amongst those groups of people. (The kind of group, that don't want a Black man in the White House).  Now, she is talking "sexist" in appeasing to the feminist group (The women that would rather have her in the White House than a man).  

NOW what does this do for Hillary...It allows her to develop a "base".  IN which, if she sabotages the chance of Barack Obama becoming President, She wins and become the HERO to her newly develop "base"

If she become successful in ruining Barack Obama's chances to the Presidency; she rises above as the “great crusader” and will have a dedicated "base" to help her win in 2012.

She needs appeasing.  This is truly insane.  I have voted Republican every year since Reagan and finally get excited for someone and have to live with her crap again.  The superdelegates are true cowards for not coming out before now. She even brings petty, decisive politics to her own party. If Obama had not been different from prior candidates he would have brought her through the mud as she did him.  The Republicans never had to use that on her as they were saving for the General in case.  Only one candidate vetted here.

And you're not reporting on Clinton's $20M campaign debt because???????????????????????????????????????

Zogby/Reuters poll out today shows Obama with an 8 point lead over McCain nationally.  It also shows Obama with a 26 point(!) lead over Clinton among Democrats.  Those of you who keep saying that Hillary is more electable than Obama in the general are as delusional as Hillary herself thinking that she can still win the nomination.  Time to come together people!

OK so caucuses are not representative, but primaries where only one candidate is on the ballot, or where no campaigning was done, are representative?  I personally went to caucus for the first time in my state.  I and the others there had to be more determined for our "vote" to count than in primaries where I have voted in the past.  Caucusing was a longer process than walking into a and out of a voting booth.  Caucusing is also a public declaration, so you must have conviction for your choice.  Please stop making it sound like those of us who made that effort are less valuable.  My opinion should be just as valuable now as it was when I lived in a primary state.  I'm the same citizen of the United States of America, as are the others in caucus states.  Listen to our voices too.

Oh, the hypocracy!

Hillary had no problem with the DNC penalty of FLA/MI until she needed their support to make her case for the nomination stronger.

Hillary says we should not disenfranchise the FL/MI voters, but that is exactly what she does with her "popular vote" argument, which totally disenfranchises the voters in states that held caucuses (where popular vote totals don't get counted).

It's sad how Hillary views caucuses with such disdain.  Caucuses are a true measure of how passionate voters are for their candidate, as it takes an extra effort to participate, compared to a primary.  If Hillary can only inspire most people to pull a lever for her, rather than go the extra mile to participate more, then perhaps that is another indication of how uninspiring she really is.

Here are my thoughts:

Where was the indignation over FL and MI not being counted when they signed the agreement before the campaign.  Surely there must have been some idea that it was not fair to FL or MI at the time.

Secondly, the popular vote that ensures that we count every voter?  What about those caucus participants?  Is there position in our party less important?

Those who say that this is not hurting the party, I believe are mistaken.  

Clinton talking about Principles?  Ha!

If we count Michigan and Florida, we need to figure out a way to calculate the popular vote of the four caucus states that Hillary wants disenfranchised (they did not have a popular vote, so they no longer count under Clinton's shill)

Clinton Protest Voters for McCain: Especially angry women!

it will be funny when a women's reproductive rights are federally governed and essentially revoked, and when their childrens futures are diminished by a failing education policy and no chance of attending college, and when their families lose their homes, and when they lose loved ones in senseless wars, and when an illness creates havoc in their lives.

Now all of these things are horibble, but it will be funning that those Americans who need government the most (both Hillary and Bill contend so) will effectively step all over their own toes.

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