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McCain: Ellen vs. McCain?

Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:15 AM by Mark Murray

The Washington Post details Charlie Black's lobbyist past, including his frequent representation of foreign governments. This comes on a day when MoveOn is out with a TV ad attacking Black.

The New York Times previews Friday's release by the campaign of McCain's medical records. "In an unforeseen bit of timing, the release of the records, which cover 2000 to 2008, will follow by three days the disclosure that Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, who is Mr. McCain’s good friend in the Senate, has a malignant brain tumor. Mr. McCain, who still has a puffy left cheek and a scar down the back of his neck from his surgery, told reporters that he continued to see an oncologist for regular checkups. The most recent visit was this month. ‘I could probably get away with seeing her every six months,’ Mr. McCain said, ‘but just to be on the safe side, I see her every three months.’” 

Per NBC’s Bethany Thomas, McCain didn't dance on the Ellen DeGeneres Show, but he did field some tough questions on Ellen's upcoming marriage to actress Portia de Rossi in a newly legalized California civil ceremony. Ellen thanked McCain for coming on the show and said she had encouraged all of the presidential candidates to come on, regardless of whether they see eye to eye, "I don't think anyone should judge Republicans or Democrats or gays or straight or anything. Nobody should be judged by other people's opinions." Later in the interview, Ellen said, "Let's talk about the big elephant in the room." She told the senator and the audience that she will be soon marrying her longtime girlfriend. She said she was planning on marrying her before the state made it legal and asked McCain what his thoughts are on the same-sex marriage issue. 

McCain said, "I think that people should be able to enter into legal agreements and it's something that we should encourage, particularly in the case of insurance and other areas and decisions that have to be made. I just believe in the unique status of marriage between a man and a woman and I know that we have a respectful disagreement on that issue."

Ellen responded, "I think that it is looked at and some people are saying the same that blacks and women did not have the right to vote. Women just got the right to vote in 1920. Blacks didn’t have the right to vote until 1870 and it just feels like there's this old way of thinking that we are not all the same. We are all the same people. All of us. You are no different than I am. Our love is the same. To me, what it feels like, I will just speak for myself, it feels like when someone says, 'You can still have a contract and you'll still have insurance and you'll get all that' -- it sounds like you can sit there, but you can't sit there. That's what is sounds like to me.”

The audience’s reaction to this seemed to be a combination of awkward silence and some members cheering for Ellen's nuptials. But McCain did get a laugh when she joked, "So, you'll walk me down the aisle?"  (In the promo taped after the show, Ellen said, "We have Senator John McCain on the show and I'm pretty sure he's going to walk me down the aisle…well, I'm not so sure.")

McCain’s problem? “Even while losing primaries and fending off bad press over his former pastor, Democrat Barack Obama was able to raise $1 million a day last month. John McCain, unrivaled and secure in his eventual nomination, had his best fundraising month and raised only $18 million. The Democratic problem: The Republican National Committee, with McCain operatives in place, raised nearly $16 million and had more than $40 million in the bank at the start of May. The Democratic National Committee had $4.4 million.”

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McCain's medical records are of no consequence to me.  I will say however, that his choice in a running-mate will be critical for his campaign.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
McFlipFlop's got bigger problems than Ellen or fundraising!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/mccain-backer-hagee-said_n_102892.html

Remember, he actively sought Hagee's endorsement.
I saw the "Ellen" clip on Morning Joe.  Sen. McCain was certainly uncomfortable, but respectful of Ellen.  He deserves credit for going on her show, feeling the way he does about her lifestyle.  

I think we are moving steadily toward acceptance and equality under the law for same-sex couples.  We live up to our values as a nation when everyone has equal rights under the law.

Now if we could also turn our attention to the sad plight of our fellow citizens, the American Indians.

Obama (whose new Crow name is "one who helps people throughout the land") '08!

 
I have to at least give McCain props for not completely dodging the question, although I by no means think his answer is how he honestly feels (frankly, I don't think he gives a damn WHO gets married, so long as there's a bottle of Johnnie Walker Black Label waiting for him backstage).
A scar down his neck! He's seeing an oncologist!

Dear G-D!

It is insane that he is running for the Presidency. If he is not an ego on steroids, then Barry, Mark, and Roger are clean.
What Dem. wants to send money to the DNC during this big mess.  I'd rather send it directly to the candidates I want to see win this election cycle (Barack Obama and Chris Murphy for me in CT).  Of course, interestingly enough, I'm forced to donate more money to Barack now (because of the battle with Clinton) so money is not flowing to Chris yet, wonder if other Dem candidates are hurt worse by this.  If the DNC gets its act together at some point, it may see some money from me.  Of course, I'm watching closely how they handle themselves in the next month (and yes, I realize I'm not the only one).

Ellen for President (leaving aside the whole overreaction on her dog type thing).

Seriously, its nice to see more tolerance in America.  I think we would move forward more as a Nation if we could only be more tolerant of each other and also more tolerant of others in the World.

Obama for our best future.
Why do gays want people whose faith demands that they reject such a life style, keep barking up that tree?

If everyone was the same why are we all different?  Why is is that nature created males and females to reproduce yet some people don't feel they should engage in a male/female bond.

Marriage is not a right of Americans, if gay/lesbian people want to get married they should marry the opposite sex.  If they want to be a "same-sex" couple they should be able to come up with their own term for it.  

Then it would be equal, they couldn't get married, and I couldn't get "whatever they want to call it"

Seems fair to me
Sen. McCain was uncomfortable, but however it's not his responsibility to judge Ellen or anyone based on their lifestyles.  That's what make everyone unique.

Hopefully, Obama will attract all of the liberal minded people in this country to vote for him!!


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As Darth Cheney famously opined; So?
McCain is a flip flopping idiot!  First, when he was running for re-election to the Senate from Arizona, he supported Arizona's  attempt to ban same sex marriage via a state referendum to amend that state's constitution.  Thankfully, that one failed.  Then, he stated his opposition to amending the US constitution banning same sex marriage.  Then, now that he's running for president and needs to cow tow to evangelicals, as he did when running for re-election to the senate, he's signing onto a presidential GOP platform calling for, you got it, an amendment to the US constitution banning same sex marriage. This guy will say anything to get elected...just like Romney!

Also, while I trully appreciate Ellen and all that she's done for our gay community, I wish she didn't have McCain on her show.  Oprah once said, she would never have guests on her show from hate groups because, its her show, and she doesn't want to give them a platform.  Ellen should've done the same with McCain.  McCain is a gay hater and Ellen should not have given him the priviledge of her show to use as a platform for his homophobic diatrobe.  

John, MI (Sent Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:47 AM).....

Your post is basically saying, separate but equal, when we know there is nothing equal about being separate.  According to your post, you place gays in same sex relationships into second class citizens.  In NJ, the civil union law recently passed there is a failure because people in civil unions are, in fact, not being recognized because people say, its not marriage.  
will mccant walk ellen down the aisle?  stay tuned for haggee to say.
You know that's the one thing I like about the liberal crowd. You never see them sitting around "judging people"
While constitutionally blacks received the right to vote in 1870.  It did not become reality, in many states and localities (not all of them in the South), until the voting rights act of 1965 - which was given a 25-year extension in 2006 by congress and signed GWBush.  The last modification of the Act is why there are bi-lingual ballots available (English and Spanish) in areas where there are large Spanish speaking populations.

Gail in TN agree that our national policy towards our Native Americans is dismal at best - I have seen this first hand in treatment of the Sioux (born in western MN).  I still find it strange (and demeaning) that when subordinates do something that may embarrass the boss - that the words are that "someone got off the reservation" - heard this the other day in reference to foreign policy.
Dear Defiance:  This is not about so-called "people of faith."  This is about civil marriage, which is controlled by state governments, not churches.  You can get married in a church, but you still need a government-issued marriage license.  Re McCain: this man abandoned his disabled wife, and the mother of his children, to marry the younger woman with whom he had been having an affair, who just happened to be worth $100 million.  He has no right to pass judgment on others' right to marry.  
Regarding Ellen and her discussion with Mccain about Gay Marriage,-- I don't think Ellen should waste her breath on any republican candidate about Gay issues; Because these republicans are still under complete control of the Religious Right Wing Repubs.  `But the fact of the matter is bias against Gay's right to marriage is UNCONSTITUTIONAL" period.
To John MI:

  Lets's grow up. Come up with their own term for it? Are you serious?

    If you look at the "spiritual" concept of this, we are all the same. Our souls know no gender. Love is universal. How we express that love should be universal as well. Male and female can reproduce, however that is only in the physical aspect. When two souls find each other should they be limited to  unity only if the other one is of an "acceptable" gender? Or should a relationship be based only on physical appearance?  
   I believe that if two souls find each other and love each other they are entitled to live their lives together in unity however they find it. This is
THEIR life. They do not need to justify it to us.

   If you have your belief then so be it but do not try to FORCE  it on someone else.
  Love is patient,Love is kind.  Where is yours?
Where's the discussion of tv hustler/preacher Rod Parsley and how McCain thinks Parsely is a great man?  Obama gets slaughtered about his pastor, and now I wager McCain will barely get any scrutiny about Parsley.  
Pat Huntington NY (Sent Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:59 AM)

If people were willing to accept seperate but equal we wouldn't have a difference, but it seems the biggest opposition to the seperate but equal idea is the people who are "so-called different" and they want to be treated equally.  Just a good way to do it, just need everyone to accept it, which unfortunatly won't happen until BOTH sides accept that.

Why do gays want people whose faith demands that they reject such a life style, keep barking up that tree?


defiance (Sent Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:44 AM)
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There is no "faith" that demands such rejection. Ignorance and intolerance demand such rejection.
I married my same sex partner on our 10 year anniversary, in August 2004, in Massachusettes.

Has my marriage damaged anyone elses's marriage since then?  If so, say so, or shut up!  And, it has neither damaged the so called sanctity of marriage...hetero's with their 60% divorce rate have taken care of that!
"LIVE & LET LIVE", I say.  We are all made by God no matter how different we are.  As long as someone is not hurting me I feel it is none of my business what they do in their home.  Government, however, is a different case as what they do CAN hurt you, if you get my drift.
Separate but equal will never be equal. Same-sex couples want legitimacy, and inventing a new "whatever they want to call it" term that will receive almost no respect and always play a second fiddle to marriage does nothing to help them gain that legitimacy.

The main problem here is the church and government's united use of the word marriage. If marriage is a SOLELY religious matter, the state should not recognize it and strictly recognize the term 'civil union'. If marriage IS a state matter, any citizen should be able to participate, regardless of sexual identity/preference.
Always a 'lifestyle', never a life. Sigh...
You can love someone spiritually without having to get "married".

I am not against same sex partners, I just don't know why they have to be "married" when the term for marriage has always been the joining of a man/women, its defined that way forever.  Why didn't people of spiritual feelings for the same sex want to be married 20 years ago, why is it the past 20 years is when everyone now has accepted to be gay?

I understand people wanting to not feel seperated from the group, but why does everyone who is gay feel discriminated against when people say you can't get married.  I can't give birth but you don't hear me complaining or discriminated against.

We have different names for races even though we should see everyone the same, so I don't think it would be that big of a deal to say you are "life-partner" officially compared to saying you are "married"
My bad! I posted wrong info here misleading people. Sorry Mr. McCain. You will have my vote this coming November.


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