THANK YOU FOR HANDING THE PRESIDENCY TO MCCAIN!!!!!

I can't wait to see you all fall in November!!!!

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Good morning First Read friends!  What a glorious morning here in rainy Michigan!

Still catching up on last night's posts, but here are my thoughts about last night...

(1) Was McCain creepy or WHAT?  Grinning like a cheshire cat...I kept imagining his face disappearing and seeing that yellow grin.  Ew!  He looked like the guy at the supermarket that you would keep your kids away from.  He sounded so arrogant and Joe S. is right - he can't read a teleprompter well.  Also - his supporters responded as if someone was down there with a cue card: "Applause", "Boo", "John McCain!" (BTW - can't he come up with something catchier than that?).

(2) Hillary was like a sharp stick to the eye - if I can't win, then take THAT!  Terry M. introducing here as "the next president" and her missing her cue.  Ha!  Her and her supporters holding the VP slot hostage.  Sorry, it's time to put the bully away, Dems.  SHUT HER DOWN.

(3) Who was that guy behind her last night?  He was in KY too.  What is he, part of her entourage now?

(4) I love that they picked a venue w/o TV monitors where no one had cell phone access (per Andrea Mitchell last night).  What does THAT tell you?  Isolating people so they don't hear the REAL news?

(5) Obama was very gracious last night.  And wow - look at that crowd!  The place was PACKED!

Anyway...I agree with Pat B. this morning (shocker!) - he needs to put this Clinton VP thing away NOW before it becomes more of a distraction that it already is.  If she had been gracious and respectful, maybe he could have considered her.  But what she pulled yesterday with planting the seeds with the NY dems and then trying to steal the spotlight away...let's move on.

Happy Wednesday!

Barack Obama even wins the popular vote, despite what HIllary claims.  Unless you give her full credit for Michigan and give him ZERO votes there, he wins the popular vote.  Most popular votes, most delegates, most states, most money raised.  An extraordinary victory and a stunning upset of the most formidable political machine in the Democratic Party of the 20th century.

MAV...whatever!  Threats to vote for McSame!  Wow, your intelligence is really shining through!

Obama will be POTUS!  McKnowNothing will not be able to yell at the teleprompter and I suggest he start his debate techniques; can you say cream puff or toast?  Bring it on!  

It is a historic day. For all practical purposes we know the next president will be either the Democratic or Republican nominee - and for the first time one of the two is an African-American.

While we as a nation earned the justification to be just a little bit prouder today, here's to hoping this election will center on issues.

Not trivial crap like whether Lt. Kerry figured out how to work the Army awards system, or whether Lt. Bush was AWOL, or whether Vice President Gore was actually in Texas for flood relief or a fundraiser. But actual issues - a debate between differing visions on what we can be, what we should be, and what we ought to do with respect to real foreign and domestic challenges.

I am looking forward to watching this remarkable young man lead our nation into a new era of HOPE,CHANGE,AND INTEGRITY,AND MOST OF ALL PEACE.

Destiny...history...reality check?

Maybe America needed eight years of shock therapy, i.e., George Bush, to make us realize how far off course we have veered as a nation.  Our long national nightmare will soon be over.

Back to life, back to reality, finally!!

Obama/trust his choice '08  

I sure hope that Obama can give SK Sibelius a serious thught at t very prominent role liek supreme justice or AG. Sme thing for HRC.
What to do withthe freshman MO senator. Clair will be a very good friend and confidant to Obama and Michelle so he needs to keep her in a very close position.

Before anybody switches to McCain ...

McCain divorced his first wife on her proverbial sickbed (a la the GOP's Hypocrite in Chief, the despicable Newt Gingrich). What kind of supposed war hero divorces the woman who waited for him to return from the war, and concealed her own life-threatening car crash injuries for his benefit? McCain married his current millionaire heiress beer-distributor wife, 17 years his junior, one month after dumping Carol Shepp McCain, who, as Sen. McCain so gallantly put it, "was on crutches and had gained quite a bit of weight."

"In his book, The Nightingale's Song, Robert Timberg chronicled McCain's post-Vietnam military assignments and some of his "adulterous" behavior leading to his divorce from Carol and marriage to Cindy Hensley. "

"While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."  Such behavior was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates... "

You can read the whole sad story here.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm

I don't know how any woman could vote for this two timer and still look in the mirror every morning.  

This time, instead of voting against abortion and gay marriage, and for prayer and guns (these issues will never go away) -- vote for your wallet , vote for the economy, vote for the environment, vote for jobs.

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again

I've said before that I don't think Obama can beat McCain because I don't see how Obama will carry Florida.  It is possible that Hillary Clinton (as either vice-president or simply a surrogate) could sway some of those angry and disenfranchised voters, plus Latinos, plus the Jewish vote in Florida to help put a Democrat in office, but even she has an uphill battle thanks to the silly DNC.  And if McCain picks Gov. Crist as his running mate, the Dems lose hands down. The 'alternative electoral map' seems like a lame idea.

Do I want Obama to offer Clinton the vice-presidency and do I want her to accept?  Her campaign structure is there for the picking. 16 million voters they can petition instantly to put a Dem in the White House. I see no other running mate pick who can offer that gold mine. And McCain has nothing comparable. So, yes, Obama should make the offer. He needs her.  Should Hillary take it?  Again, I don't think Obama will win, so no, she shouldn't. And she shouldn't go down with his ship. Let Richardson or someone do that part.   She should run again in 2012 if she wants to...or not.  

Suppose she does take Obama's offer. There has been much whining and wringing of hands about "What in the world would Obama do with two Clintons in the White House!? Get a food taster, blah, blah."  This is a false argument if we are to believe that Obama truly is fit to be Commander-in-Chief.

We are supposed to accept from Obama supporters that he is more than ready to confront Iran, Venezuela and N. Korea...and don't forget China. We can rest easy that he will end the Iraq war long before he leaves office.   We should understand that the wave of illegal immigrants (and who knows who else) storming our unprotected borders and unprotected ports don't frighten him.  That thing swirling down the national toilet bowl called our 'economy' will be fished out just in time as he somehow provides 40/hr.wk. good jobs with benefits, by stopping corporate America from shipping our livelihood overseas. And don't worry about that trade deficit! He knows how to be isolationist and global at the same time!  Chicago, the Senator's home ground is bloody with gang warfare, but our soaring national crime problem doesn't scare him nor does, presumably, the Medusa-like gun lobby.  Housing crash, $5 gas, the fight against Big Oil for energy alternatives and Big Pharma for a decent national health
plan....doesn't cow him.

This will all be a piece of cake.  

However, this same guy will be confronted with the direst of problems that any other President in the history of our country has faced: he will be completely stymied by the presence of the Clintons lurking in the hallways of the White House, scheming to ruin his legacy.    How will he stop Hillary and Bill Clinton - who live down the street, by the way, not in the White House - from taking over his job?  How will this uncompromising commander-in-chief possibly get these two people to follow his orders?  Ahmadinejad??? BRING IT ON!!  Hillary and Bill....oooo, scary...what will I do?!

It is stupid to NOT offer Hillary Clinton the vice-presidency because of what Bill might be doing.  There may be other reasons to pick someone else. But if this is the reason, then Barack Obama has no business selling himself as a Commander-In-Chief.

A MESSAGE TO HILLARYCLINTON.COM SENT THIS MORNING:

Please stop this! I am not proud of you today.  I'm a 64 year old white women who was very active in the women's movement and I''m ashamed of you.  Obama won and you did not even have the courtesy to congratulate the first African American nominee! I cannot accept you on the ticket after the way you acted.  As gracious as Obama was to you, you slapped him and his supporters in the face.  Grow up and maybe you can be a part of his administration or on the Supreme Court.  But first, you had better come out strong for him or you and Bill will not have a legacy at all.  Come on Hillary, you should be better than that!

The Democratic Party is throwing this election away for the sake of a bunch of independent punks who'll bolt after November 4th, and go back to their Ralph Nader's and their Jesse Ventura's.
Nice going...hope you all enjoy having John McCain for a President these next four years.

A heartfelt Congratulations to Obama !  I look forward to voting for you in November and witnessing you sworn in as our 44th President. You are a remarkable man to say the least. Fire it up !

Big mistake democrates. Obama will not be able to get anything done. The real man will be revealed shortly and America will be sorry.

Hmm......So McCain now wants the Chnge mantra. I guess Change DEPENDS.............Yes DEPENDS. IS anyone smart enough to create and send me a T-Shirt that has teh word CHANGE and a picture of a DEPEND right under Change followed by McCains picture?

Can someone please tell me what "decision" Hillary is signaling she has to make?  Isn't the race over?  Didn't she say over and over that she will "work her heart out" for whoever is the nominee?  Does this mean she will do it only if she is on the ticket?  What about this party unity she has said was so important?  She is showing clearly how self-absorbed she and her husband are.  Obama will never be able to lead with Bill and Hillary as "co-vice presidents".

This is the first time in history that a candidate who has done absolutely NOTHING other than to bark into a microphone, is being hailed as the savior of the free world.
Obama has too much of an ego to serve the people. Obama is all about...Obama.
He'll say ANYTHING to get elected.
We need someone to serve US, not the other way around.
We need a

Mav

This is about our country and about electing the Democratic Party nominee to the White House.

So whatever - keep spitting your venom while the rest of us move on - and work toward electing the next President of the United States - Barack Obama!

Obama '08  

After last night's little circus in NY, CLinton should be deeply ashamed of herself and her campaign's nonablity to acknowledge that her time is over.  Terry McCauliffe disgraced her by introducing her as the next president.  Are you people listening? Seeing?  Hearing?  Barack Obama is the Dem nominee.  Hell, even George W. Bush had the decency to congratulate the senator.  To not even say a word about the results--to parse her words about his "run" instead of his win, is almost pathalogical; topping it of with a shout to visit her website for donations/suggestions(you really want a suggestion, Madam???) is sadly telling but not surprising.  The window for her VP or any cabinet position is quickly closing if her behavior keeps up.  Obama has the nomination, our support, and he's ready to lead.  You, Mrs. Clinton, need to take a good look at yourself and your future and for once just come out and do what's right.  Acknowledge your defeat.

I was not sure that Senator Obama's grandmother, was still living.

I've had a lot of emotional moments today, but his tribute to his grandma, in Hawaii, really blew me away. Although we were sitting in the dark, (and he does'nt know, I know it), it got to my 6' 4" husband too!

Just think, Barack's mother, grandmother, and grandfather, lived the reality that the situation in 'Guess Who's Coming To Dinner', put forth, during the time that the film was realeased; way back in the 60's!

When Sidney Poitier, said to Spencer Tracey, that his daughter had hopes that their bi-racial children would someday be The President of the United States, who in that theater did'nt squirm with discomfort, at such a corny, preposterous line of dialogue?  

Well, here we are, and the Obama's are poised to succeed within those fictional character's timeline.

Nothing is too hard for G-D.

Our country was greater than we knew, back when Hollywood dared to challenge our doubts, and fears.

Congratulations to Barack and Michelle Obama! Now, perhaps, America can get to the business of building a better future. Again, congratulations!

Hillary Clinton ran an "ALL-OR-NOTHING" campaign. Well..."ALL" is currently taken!  ;-)

"If Hillary Clinton is so great, she'll do what's right and her followers will back the Democratic nominee. If not...we'll all know exactly why she lost and the immeasurable damage inflicted on the Democratic party. In case Hillary doesn't know, we often learn more from defeat than victory. Bitter battles lost should never be allowed to outweigh the entire war. Some times putting others before self becomes the precise difference between victory and defeat." -- Steve Ford

Obama has done more than his share in the bridge building equation and he's the winner! Mrs. Clinton, nobody likes sore a loser. NOBODY.

        *** ABC = Anybody But Clinton ***

                   ABC for VP!

                   ABC for VP!

                   ABC for VP!

Margaret, Columbus, Ohio (Sent Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:51 AM):

Margaret:

Perhaps some of your arguements about Hillary being Obama's running mate are correct. By by G-- she better start doing a better job of accpeting his victory, endorsing his candidacy and supporting him rather then playing the fence and threatening him with her voters. I might agree with you on some points but Hillary's behavior last night was atrocious to say the least. If she wants to be the VP then she better start acting like someone who can strongly support and be firmly committed to a boss (the President, Oabam). Otherwise she can kiss the VP slot goodbye. Sure, Obama wants Hilary's supporters to support him now that he is the nominee. But she owes him some homage, not vice versa. he is after all the victor here.

You are witnessing history in the making.

The end of significance of the once powerful democractic party AND the rise of a THREE PARTY sytstem

Ladies and gentlemen, we do indeed have a historic first!  A presidential nominee who is completely unqualified!  History will not be kind, but it will be accurate.

All American Hero vs Anti-American Zero.  McCain '08!

"I've said before that I don't think Obama can beat McCain because I don't see how Obama will carry Florida."
Margaret, Columbus, Ohio (Sent Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:51 AM)

Here's how:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/Jun04.html

Based on current polls in state match ups:

Obama 287
McCain 227
Ties 24 (Virginia/Indiana)

Now that we have seen obama lose a state he was heavily favored in perhaps the SD's, who can change their vote up until the last moment,  will stop and truly evaluate what has happened.  Probably not though and therein lies the tragedy.

I as a life long Moderate Democrat will NOT support this empty suit thrust upon us by an obama biased media.  I will not support a candidate who has used sexism and racism to secure the nomination.  I will not support a candidate who is supported by the vile nasty immature people who post here and elsewhere.  I will not support a candidate who is supported by racists like Al Sharpton,  oprah winfrey and the Congressional Black Caucus members who denigrated people like John Lewis and Stephanie Tubbs Jones because they as free human beings chose to support a white woman instead of "the brother".  I will not support a candidate who has done nothing to deserve my vote.

Congratulations DNC/RBC for putting a lying arrogant condescending hypocrite racist forth as the nominee of my former party.

Well, Obama defeated the defendant in the campaign fraud lawsuit for the Democratic Presidential nomination.  Congrats to Senator Obama!  It was a clean sweep of all categories:  pledged delegates, superdelegates, states won, and yes Hillary supporters, Obama also won the popular vote.

I watched Monica's boyfriends's wife give her speech last night.  How pathetic!  My son used to have the same problem:  never willing to admit defeat, holding his breath to get what he wants, having tantrums to try to get his way, trying to change the rules in the middle of the game.

Fortunately, he outgrew it by the time he was 5 years old.

Obama/Anyone but Hillary Clinton in 2008.  Integrity matters and the Clintons have none.

Last night my wife and I were watching the coverage. We, I thought were both big Clinton supporters. I gave over 5000.00 to her campaign. When they gave him the nomination, my wife said I thought they would and thats why she said she voted for him in the Primary. I was stunned ! Today after my shock has worn down some,  I am packing and leaving her. I can not live with someone who lies like does. I hope they both get what they deserve ! which is NOTHING

Obama should offer Hillary the VP in exchange for her choreographed refusal, not pick a woman and steal her thunder as the historic female candidate. Hillary compaigns virorously for Obama. McCain was pathetic last night. Obama in a landslide in November.

Obama should offer Hillary the VP in exchange for her choreographed refusal, not pick a woman and steal her thunder as the historic female candidate. Hillary compaigns virorously for Obama. McCain was pathetic last night. Obama in a landslide in November.

"Respect my supporters."  That's absurd.  Of course Barak respects the general electorate.  His having reached the requisite delegate milestone for the nomination is proof of this respect for voters, particularly democrats of all backgrounds.  Hillary does not have the required delegates, and now she presumes to hold her party hostage to ensure she gets the VP nod; a two-for-one deal of sorts.  Isn't the point of the primary season to select a party's presidential nominee, under whom that party will unify going into the General Election?  Hillary's actions are selfish and divisive.  Yet, the general perception of her has always been that of a self-important, polarizing figure.  I’m a realist, and, very well, there’s a strong argument that her getting the VP nod would secure the White House for Barak.  Yet, her capitalizing on that notion to gain a nod to which she is arguably entitled does nothing for the Democrats going into the General.  The bigger contender would see this and concede without condition.

Amen C A from Tuscaloosa.  Hillary's behavior last night was not respectful of Obama and his victory.  She may think she has some muscle and clout because of her supporters but I believe the VP spot is all wrong for both she and Obama.  There will be a good fit for her somewhere in his administration but VP would not work at all, for either of them.  I think they both know it and will come to an agreement when they finally sit down one on one to talk about it.  This is such a historic moment, the world is seeing again that America is truly a place of equal opportunity and a land of dreams, a place where you truly are judged by the content of your character, not the color of your skin.  We have shown that we don't just say it, we live it.  What a proud moment for all of us as Americans.  Finally we are showing that we don't just talk the talk, we DO walk the walk.  Maybe this can be the beginning of restoring our credibility and respect around the world.  Thank you America for voting for change.  Let us all have the courage to forge ahead in the coming months and spread the message.......

An historic moment. So many people must be and should be proud. Congratulations to Sen. Obama
and his team. HE deserves much RESPECT.

Hillary Clinton, once again, had a opportunity to have history look upon her favorably, and blew it!  She should have been celebratory, congratulated and commented on the historical aspect of Barack's nomination, (yes, he did win the nomination last night), but instead went about to diminish it, to lend illegitimacy to it, and more or less make the statement to her supporters that if she is not the nominee, she and they,(her supports), were robbed.  Sad, truly sad, and now history will look upon her campaign with even more disdain.  Why can she not think for anything besides herself?  Why is she incapable of understanding that her time has passed, that the public has a huge desire to go forward, away from the past that she represents?  Isolating her supporters in a communication deficient basement, so that news from the outside world couldn't get in, reminded me of those doomsday cults, complete will Kool-aid drinking speech!

She's an evil person, not a decent bone in her body! Clinton supporters: we will not be held hostage by you or anyone else. If you want to vote for McStupid Grandpa Munster, go right on ahead! Free country! After all they've done, you are still in denial about them. Amazing, truly amazing!

FedUpDem, your loss will be mitigated by the thousands of former republicans and independents who had nothing and saw nothing coming down the pike for this country except at least four more years of misery. But don't worry, when the country gets better and you benefit like the rest of us, you need not thank anyone. This is, after all about the whole country, not individual voters.

Hearty congratulations to Barack and Michelle Obama!  Your achievement is both brave and historic. It finally gives me the hope for America I thought I'd lost during the dark Bush years. You showed a great deal of class in your praise for you rival, Mrs. Clinton, and class has really been the tone of all of your campaign.  Keep it up; it will be my honor to vote for you in Novemeber.
Hillary Clinton showed NO class in not acknowledging or congratualting Obama on his win, and her usual stubborn childishness and distance from reality by still implying she had things to do in her campaign.  If she thinks, after five months of tearing Obama up one side and down the other, implying she was waiting around for someone to assassinate Obama, as RFK was murdered, and her snub of Obama last night will get her the VP spot, she's as delusional as ever. She hopes to actualy force and bully her way way into the #2 slot, even if Obama doesn't want her and his wife despises her.  It doesn't work like that, Hil.  You're just further tarnishing both your reptation and your legacy. Give it up and just show some class for once and rally around your party's candidate to help him defeat another four years of Bush policy blunders.

Really, the necessity of Sen. Clinton 'acknowledging
the nominee' (he IS the nominee) or 'conceding' (she lost) is like Sen. Clinton having to acknowledge the sun rose today for it to be true. NOT.

2008 Dream Team:
Obama/Al Sharpton
Obama/Jesse Jackson
Obama/Jimmy Carter

Today after my shock has worn down some,  I am packing and leaving her. I can not live with someone who lies like does. I hope they both get what they deserve ! which is NOTHING

So it starts

Yep, so start the moronic posts.  So, you're leaving your wife because of her being all democratic and stuff and choosing another candidate?  Yep, you'll fit right in with Johnny, leave my supporting wife for a younger chick with more money, McCain.  Perfect fit the two of you will be!

 It is the job of the nominee to pick his/her VP and not that of the loser/losers of the primary race. Once again, Hillary thinks it is her function to change the rules as they suit her. This is NOT her party.

This is the first time in history that a candidate who has done absolutely NOTHING other than to bark into a microphone, is being hailed as the savior of the free world.
Obama has too much of an ego to serve the people. Obama is all about...Obama.
He'll say ANYTHING to get elected.
We need someone to serve US, not the other way around.
We need a

A Republican Who would-have crossed the aisle for Hillary. But, NOT for Obama (Sent Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:59 AM)
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What an accurate statement!!
I couldn't agree more!

Congratulations DNC/RBC for putting a lying arrogant condescending hypocrite racist forth as the nominee of my former party.

FedUpDem, Washington, DC

Harriette from New York, is that you?  Ir is this pat cd ca's new moniker?

John the War Gnome McCain is a POW survivor...that's it.  A poor student, bottom of the class in Annapolis, joke of a pilot who would have been canned were it not for Daddy the admiral.  Do you ever wonder why it is there are films of him giving his serial # to his captors.  More Daddy influence?  His political career is one of supporting and being supported by corportate concerns...Big money.  This guy does not represent average Americans any more than he was treated the same as the average POW in Viet Nam.

A recipe for disaster !!!

Hillary is incapable of being the vice president. She would only use the position as a platform to force herself into an acting co-president ... and constantly be trying to undermine the president to promote herself!

Even in defeat she shows an inability to accept reality; and worse, is openly defiant, bitter and completely lacking of any grace or common decency.

You can be sure of one thing .... we have not seen the last of the Clintons' tantrum. There will be blood, all at the expense of the Democrat party, America and Obama.

Get rid of her NOW. The political consequences of this will be NOTHING compared to the ongoing problem of having to deal with the Clintons as two          co-presidents. She has told us who she would like us to believe she is; she keeps showing us who she really is.

I watched all 3 speeches.

When Obama made that McCain dig -- I respect his accomplishments although he has never acknowledged mine -- did anyone else think he was also thinking "Hillary", but in classic Obama style refusing to say something direspectful to a fellow dem?

Because he sure could have said the same of her.

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