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Domenico Montanaro, NBC News Political Reporter



First thoughts: The big upset

Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:24 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Pulling off the big upset: After 17 months, 56 contests, more than 35 million votes, and an exclamation of some 60 superdelegate endorsements yesterday, Barack Obama clinched the Democratic presidential nomination, ending the most significant and entertaining primary race in American history. And as MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann observed last night, perhaps it was only fitting that both Obama and Clinton split last night’s contests in Montana and South Dakota. But there was no mistake that the Illinois senator, who will be the first African American to be a major party’s presidential nominee, was the big winner. While he stumbled crossing the finish line -- whether it due to playing prevent defense and focusing on the general, Hillary finding her voice as the underdog, or simply a matter of geography and the nominating calendar -- Obama pulled off arguably the greatest upset in American political history. Indeed, the weight of the history is palpable, and the fact he’s an historical first is a big challenge for McCain in the fall. If someone like Obama has never gone this far before, then how does the GOP paint him as just another typical liberal politician? Obama's mere presence in the race represents a change. This may be why McCain spent so much time last night comparing his change to Obama's change. McCain's best shot at this is making the case that Obama's the wrong change.

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd gives his first read on the first day of the general election and takes a look at the geography of Obama's victory.

*** "What does Hillary want?" While Obama was last night’s big winner, yesterday’s No. 2 story of course was Hillary Clinton. The day began with a report that she would acknowledge Obama clinching the nomination. Then the Clinton campaign pushed back furiously against the report, calling it “100% wrong” and “not true.” Next came word of a conference call in which Clinton told New York congressional supporters that she was open to being Obama’s running mate. And finally, she delivered a speech in New York City that -- although praising Obama -- didn’t acknowledge his nomination and didn’t signal that she was giving up the fight. “Now the question is: Where do we go from here?” she asked last night. “Now given how far we’ve come and where we need to go as a party, it’s a question I don’t take lightly. This has been a long campaign, and I will be making no decisions tonight.” But what other decision can she make? Her speech, which came after the networks declared Obama the presumptive nominee, seemed akin to the losing football team remaining on the field after the game is already over and celebrating with its fans. As the New York Times’ Nagourney puts it: “Like her husband, Mrs. Clinton has a way of becoming the center of attention even when the spotlight is supposed to be trained elsewhere.” That reality might make the prospect of her becoming Obama’s running mate more difficult than some of her supporters realize.

*** What’s next for Hillary? Per NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, close advisers say that Clinton needs a few days to decompress and that she will be in DC tonight hosting an 89th birthday party for her mother, Dorothy Rodham, at the Clinton home. They also tell Mitchell that despite any disclaimers, she DOES want to be on the ticket. It is an issue they would have to explore face to face. No meetings now planned. Obama told her last night he would be available on her timetable. Why is she not conceding, given the reality that he has secured the nomination? A close friend and adviser said: "We were going flat-out until last night. We poured everything into winning South Dakota. Now she needs some time to decompress." Another said: "She knows she has maximum leverage right now." The Clintons clearly believe that Obama needs her supporters -- and that they can continue this dance for at least a few more days, despite pressure from party leaders to get it done.

*** It’s no longer her party: The next few days will be filled with Clinton political obits and many will focus on the strategic blunders of the campaign, including the decision to let Obama dictate the pace of the race (see those January '07 dueling Web videos); Mark Penn's focus on preparing Clinton for the general rather than realizing there was a primary; and glossing over the caucus states. But did Clinton ever actually have a chance? Think about this fact. Since February 5, she secured fewer than 40 superdelegate endorsements... 40! No matter what the polls said or what her margins of victory were in Ohio or Pennsylvania or West Virginia, the party leaders would not allow themselves to be swayed away from Obama. Perhaps the Clinton hold on the party was gone a lot sooner than some of us in the media realized. These folks were simply looking for an excuse to dump the Clintons. The inability to prevent Howard Dean from taking over the DNC or the Dems taking back Congress without the leadership of the Clintons may have been more significant in telling the story of how the Democrats kicked their Clinton habit. This may be Barack Obama's party now. But this ceased being the Clintons' party a long time ago. However, we only noticed this now. Seriously, if someone said to you 18 months ago that the Democratic nomination will be decided by the superdelegates, who would have you bet on under those circumstances -- Clinton or Obama?

*** Give that man a mic: On paper, doing what McCain did last night -- delivering a primetime speech on the final day of the Democratic primary, with several well-written barbs at Obama -- was a good idea. But in practice, it might have been a big mistake. We received numerous emails from even GOP sources, who weren’t impressed with the speech or that green background. Where were the people standing behind him!!??, asked one unaffiliated Republican strategist. The truth is, McCain just isn’t a podium guy. He needs the microphone in his hand and the ability to speak off the cuff. That’s his strength. And, ironically, it's Obama's weakness. While Obama has his share of challenges as we head into the general election, perhaps McCain’s biggest one besides the problems with the GOP brand is rising to the occasion to give a speech that tries to come close to what Obama can deliver. The debate negotiations between these two are going to fascinating, because McCain's going to want more off-the-cuff, town-hall formats; Obama will want a podium. The good news for McCain: There aren't multiple election nights where the country compares the two side-by-side. There are, at a minimum, four events: the conventions and the three debates. By the way, the substance of McCain's speech was very reassuring to many conservative reformers. They liked what they READ, but are they comfortable with what they HEARD?

*** Battleground watch: Now that the general can unofficially get underway, look for both campaigns to start their 25-30 state plan ASAP. In fact, McCain's been on the air with semi-significant spending in five states, including Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. How soon will Obama join him on the air in these states? And how many states will Obama advertise in initially? Will the buy be wide and far and include states like North Dakota and Texas. Or will he narrow his focus fairly quickly and simply expand to the predictable places like Colorado and Virginia in addition to the '00 and '04 battlegrounds?

*** Where we stand: Obama has picked up at least three more superdelegates since last night: from DCCC chair Chris Van Hollen, New Hampshire Party chair Raymond Buckley and NJ Sen. Frank Lautenberg. Obama is ahead in pledged delegates per the NBC hard count (1,743 to 1,641), Edwards’ pledged delegates (21-0), superdelegates (395.5 to 292), total delegates (2,159.5 to 1,933), the total number of contests won (33 to 22), and the non-Puerto Rico popular vote by 158,155 (17,449,889 to 17,291,734). Two notes: 1) we’re not including Texas in this contest count, given that Clinton won the primary but Obama won the caucus and netted the most total Texas delegates, and 2) after Saturday’s DNC decision, we’re now counting Florida and Michigan as wins for Clinton -- but, per guidance from the DNC, we’re including Florida’s popular vote but not Michigan’s. More on the popular vote… If you count Puerto Rico, Obama still leads by 16,493 votes (17,571,347 to 17,554,854). The only measure in which Clinton leads in the popular vote is if you include Michigan. When you add those results and don’t give Obama “Uncommitted,” Clinton’s lead increases to 311,658 (17,883,005 to 17,571,347). Of course, none of our popular vote counts includes votes in the Dems Abroad primary, Guam, Virgin Islands, Maine, or Washington State.

*** The beat still goes on: On the first post-primary day of 2008, both Obama and Clinton are still on the campaign trail -- well, sort of. They both address AIPAC, the pro-Israel group. Obama goes at 9:55 am ET, while Clinton speaks at 10:25 am ET. This is actually Clinton's next best chance to begin impressing Obama for veep consideration. If Clinton can help Obama with his Jewish problem, then she can make a strong electoral case to helping Obama in states like Florida and Pennsylvania and solidify the ticket in New Jersey.

*** On the trail: Clinton has no other events on her schedule beyond her AIPAC speech; McCain is in Baton Rouge, LA, where he does a town hall, holds a media avail, and raises money before he goes to St. Petersburg, FL for another fundraiser; and Obama, after his own remarks to AIPAC, speaks via satellite to the Service Employees International Union conference taking place in Puerto Rico, and then he headlines a DNC fundraiser at a private home in New York City that will raise $28,500 per person for the party.

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Thank you America.  I think you will be pleased with Barack Obama as your 44th President.
McCain doesnt have a chance against Obama.
Celebrate
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Why Clinton Why
Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting
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Obama/Biden 08!!! This is the ticket!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPev5sEdTjg (watch this promo!!!)
obama is sucking up to Hillary because HE KNOW THAT HE WILL LOSE NOVEMBER UNLESS SHE BECOMES VP...AND MILLIONS ARE WAITING TO SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN..If he offers and she accepts....HE WILL BE PRESIDENT....but if does not....well enjoy the happiness while it last cause it will only be until November..

Have fun.. because REALITY WILL CATCH UP WITH YOU KOOLAID DRINKERS....HA HA HA!!!
Clinton still hasn't figured out this isn't about her.

I thought her address last night was just bizarre - no concession, no vow to continue, no purpose for it whatsoever, except to push the dumb website maybe in hope of duping yet a few more donors to relieve the debt.

She certainly isn't helping the party with this self indulgence, and she isn't helping her chances of being on the ticket (though I think most objective observers understand those chances were somewhere between slim and none). In effect, she guaranteed the 'none' part, because now if Obama were to pick her, it would look like he was pressured into it, and thus wouldn't look very presidential.

If Bill Clinton really believes she is the smartest person he knows, he needs to get out more.
Barack finished the primary race with a great, inspiring speech.  He ran the smartest primary campaign in history and will run a brilliant general election campaign this summer and fall.

It doesn't matter what "Classless" Hillary wants and it doesn't matter what she's says about the race because it's over regardless of what she says.  The only thing for her now is to exit gracefully and respectfully.  If she doesn't show Barack Obama the proper respect he has won and deserves then she doesn't deserve any respect from us Obama supporters.

It's way past time for "Classless" Hillary to show she cares about party unity and endorses Barack Obama.  It's time to start exposing that "Phoney Baloney" McCain for the liar that he is.

Go Obama 08/12!
Senator Clinton:  Please tell us that you are not considering an independent candidacy during the general election.  This would be a loser for the Democratic party.  The party is poised to win super majority in both houses of Congress.  You can help insure this or destroy it.  Most importantly your independent candidacy would insure victory for John McCain; a loss for America
By the end of this campaign, even McCain will be voting for Obama!
Does anyone know which delegate put Obama over the top?...I'd like to buy him or her a steak dinner...
You have two choices for president:

The first one has one of the longest lines of political experience in history.  He is exceedingly popular in congress.  He was a soldier who volunteered to defend the United States in the Navy.

The second one has no real political experience outside of Illinois.  He is tall and lanky with big ears.  He even lost a few of his first attempts at gaining political office.  He is an excellent speechwriter and orator.  He is a good attorney and has a successful law practice.

So which one would you choose?

This is a trick question because both were already Presidents of the United States.  The first one is the 15th President of the United States, James Buchannan.  He is the President who mired us in the Civil War by declaring the action illegal but doing nothing when the south decided to seceed from the Union.  He is largely considered by historians as being the worst President in American history.

He was followed by the other man who became the 16th President of the United States: Abraham Lincoln.    Abraham Lincoln is credited with the end of slavery, the end of the Civil War, and unification of the nation.  He became president at a dark time when our country was deeply divided over very polarizing issues.  He had no experience in Washington prior to his Presidency.  He is widely considered by historians as one of the best Presidents in American History.  

Which one would you prefer as your President now?  We have an almost identical choice before us today between Senator Obama and Senator McCain.  Could you sleep well at night if you made the wrong choice?
McCain comparing his change to Obama's change? That's laughable.  McCain has been in Washington for many years...he's the epitome of Washington establishment...the exact opposite of change.  

As for Obama, I tip my hat to him and his supporters...well fought race, and I look forward to pulling the lever [yes, we still got those here in NY] for him in November.  

As for Hillary, you are still my Senator, that's something to be grateful for, and I wish you luck on whatever future political endeavor you embark on.  And, if Obama was a smart guy, he would pick you as his VP running mate, because you will deliver Ohio, PA and Florida for him, and with his strategy to take on the Southwest and other traditioanlly red states like VA, GA, and NC, he will win with an electoral college landslide, and an ultimate mandate for real change.

Obama/Clinton '08!
17 Long.. Stressful months!!!!

It's about time.  

Obama will the American Dream!

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Congratulations to Barack Obama on winning the nomination!  It was well deserved and earned.  

He does not need Hillary Clinton to win in November. There are plenty of other qualified VP candidates who will serve his presidency better. I'm sure he has more sense than to really ask her sore loosing butt to be his VP.

Her speech last night was so full of resentment and unwillingness to acknowledge the obvious, it's ridiculous.  I wish her the best. Maybe one day she will come to the realization.  But whether she does or not, it's time for Obama to move on. We have got to take back the white house and address some of the issues that affect all hard-working Americans.

This is no longer about Clinton versus Obama. She lost and I'm GLAD SHE DID!!!

Obama '08!
Good morning Domenico...great job.

As for the popular vote, unless you can count ALL the states and Guam, Virgin Island etc., there is no accurate count...if there was, Obama would be the winner - and congratulations to Sen. Obama on taking the high ground in his speech last night!
Hillary Clinton is nothing but a buzz-kill.  Last night she proved how self absorbed and egotistical she really is.  I couldn't believe it, nor could my 15 year old son.  It was Senator Obama's night.  I ended up switching to CNN, and was happy to hear everyone taking Lanny Davis to task regarding his petition to force Senator Obama to take Hillary as his VP.  That decision should be up to Senator Obama, and he should not be forced into it.

CONGRATULATIONS SENATOR OBAMA, WE LOVE YOU!!!

OLDER WOMEN FOR OBAMA, 08
Robert Moleski (Sent Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:39 AM)

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I highly doubt she is thinking about an Independnet run for the White House.  She's not stupid.
"If Clinton can help Obama with his Jewish problem"

Pundits keep saying this but I have seen no data to support it. . .just because Jewish voters have preferred Clinton in the primaries, doesn't mean that they will not vote for him against McCain.

Please provide support for this based on Obama/McCain match-ups.  And compare that to what Kerry/Bush got.
BJ, the voters in SD put him over the top.  When they started apportioning delegates from SD that's waht did it!
Eric, Salinas, CA (Sent Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:38 AM)

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Your post calling Hillary "Classless" is not going to unify the party.  You and others like you, need to stop your Hillary bashing...otherwise, you are a sore winner, and us Hillary supporters may decide to stay home in November.
Hillary and her supporters need to get over themselves.

She lost, move on.
*Ignoring Hillary Clinton*

Some much needed perspective:

Despite all the pundits wondering aloud "What is wrong with Obama?", the real question is not why the race is so close, but why is Barack Obama having any success at all?

The fact that Senator Barack Hussein Obama stood toe to toe with a former first lady and two term President and came out ahead is a great VICTORY, no matter what the final score is.

Finally, the simple fact is that She Who Shall Not Be Named is doing exactly what I knew she would - creating the illusion that she is being passed over for the Vice Presidency so she can deliver a final blow to the Obama candidacy. No candidate who was legitimately interested in the job would behave as she has. It is a despicable, yet predictable act - and it will not work.

Thank you Senator Obama for changing this country forever for the better. You have proven that dignity and insight can win out over misdirection and misinformation - and America is grateful.

Obama/Biden
'08/'12

Obama/Biden 08!!! This is the ticket!!


Sue Cali (Sent Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:31 AM)
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If by ticket, you mean a ticket to a McCain presidency, you are right.

Obama/Clinton....that's the winning ticket!
Dems pick up seats in the Senate and House and lose the White House again. McCain will have to deal with a Democratic majority just as Reagan did.  Hopefully, he can get something done with a do-nothing Congress!
Thank you Chuck, Mark, and Domenico for your outstanding coverage and keen insight into the primaries.  Your site is my "first read" every day and will continue through the general.


Mav:  Thanks for the last 7 years of chaos and despair.  Unless you are one of Bush's base (multi millionaire or have a lot of oil in your portfolio), then nothing has been done for you.  

Between the war, Bush's lying to the American people, destroying the balanced economy that he had when he stole the election, he and his crowd need to be in jail.

And you still think that others are drinking KoolAid?!!!  Look into the mirror and face reality.

Vote for Obama - the candidate running against McCain.
To OBAMA:

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Thank you for your eloquence, your speech last night was stellar.  Thank you for taking the high road when your opponents do not.  Thank you for choosing your words carefully, for being gracious, for speaking about the country and your desire to make positive change.  Thank you for extending the olive branch and trying to unite the Democratic Party. You have done a magnificent job.  Many many compliments to you!
I am still shocked by the actions of Hillary Clinton yesterday.

She not only tries to steal Obama's moment by floating her interest in the VP slot but then gives a speech that was ungracious and defiant.

Why not congratulate Obama and offer her help and support?

Unreal.
Obama must be mad to consider Hillary for anything.  He has whipped her big time.  She refuses to see the obvious and continues to tell people she is the better candidate when she has lost.  Hillary lost because she underestimated Obama big time.  If Hillary gets her chance, she will derail Obama.  If Obama refuses to pick her for anything, it will derail him further.

Congrats to all the liberals that voted to keep the White House republican for the next four years.  After Denver is burned to the ground in August, people will realize that liberalism is not the answer to the problems in our country.  Common sense will always beat liberalism hands down.
The biggest let down for her was the party leaders giving them the boot.  

Albeit, the American people knows little about what happens in Washington.  You don't get to the top as Clinton did without ruffling a lot of feathers and now they {the insiders} are getting pay back.  

It's called sowing seeds, but it seems she sowed seeds of destruction and she got her seeds handed to her last night!  Can you say flood of delegates to Obama; pretty remarkable.
"A leader we can believe in"  that is incompetent and surly?  NO NO NO!   I think NOT!  McCain is a leader we can be sure will never change anything about the bush policies.  This is the RNC's show.  He is just their puppet.  " Change we can believe in from a leader we believe in - Senator Obama"
why doesnt maine and washington count?
Mika, Chris Matthews, Kieth O, Chris Todd.....you can tell from your faces that Obama HAS ALOT OF WORK TO DO... ...and it is not as easy to convince America to believe that OBAMA WILL WILL EASILY IN NOVEMBER...

KARMA BABY...KARMA!! LOL..you all know obama will have trouble..
This isn't an upset. Obama led in delegates right from the very start and you, the mainstream media, cheerled for him all the way.
This is a sad, sad day for The Democratic Party, and an even sadder day for a media that has stopped covering news, and has actively engaged in creating it.
"A leader we can believe in"  that is incompetent and surly?  NO NO NO!   I think NOT!  McCain is a leader we can be sure will never change anything about the bush policies.  This is the RNC's show.  He is just their puppet.  " Change we can believe in from a leader we believe in - Senator Obama"
To MAV, Wow it's true, Hillary really does pull in the UN-educated.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DEBATES BETWEEN OBAMA AND MCCAIN!

Obama will clean the floor with McCain during the debates.

Watch Obama's national percentages soar above McCains now that Obama is the presumptive Dem nominee.

Many Republicans will stay home and not vote in the GE. Mccain will never be able to achieve full support from his base.

Hillary suporters will come around to Obama. They will not want to take the chance with McCain and another 4 - 8 years of Republican BS. Or those McCain appointed Justices that would be dangerous to women's rights.

McCain's stump speeches that he knows best regarding Iraq wil not be accepted. The Amercian people wwant out of Iraq.

It is going to be interesting and frankly quite exciting to see the World's reaction to Obama winning the nomination and the Presidency. The World knows we still remain the only super-power and are to be reckoned with if necessary. But they will be jumping with joy that the US has finally elected a Presdient who wishes to build bridges across the Globe rather then burn them.



All the Republicans were saying in the '06 election "we'll win", then in the special congressional elections "we'll win", the fact is the GOP has overwhelmingly lost most elections even in GOP voting districts, and that will not change as long as America hates the GOP as much as they do now.  So people who pretend that McCain has a chance to beat Obama are not looking at the numbers.  These are the same people who are still waiting for Jesus to come back and get them, even after 2000 years and many failed prophecies "Jesus is coming next year".  Don't expect the GOP to deal with reality anytime soon.
I SENT THIS MESSAGE TO HILLARYCLINTON.COM:

Please stop this! I am not proud of you today.  I'm a 64 year old white women who was very active in the women's movement and I''m ashamed of you.  Obama won and you did not even have the courtesy to congratulate the first African American nominee! I cannot accept you on the ticket after the way you acted.  As gracious as Obama was to you, you slapped him and his supporters in the face.  Grow up and maybe you can be a part of his administration or on the Supreme Court.  But first, you had better come out strong for him or you and Bill will not have a legacy at all.  Come on Hillary, you should be better than that!
i would like to see obama and clinton on the ticket! even though obama prevailed , clinton fought tooth and nail. i think they could turn this country around working together... turn it around for the better i mean
TO ALL CLINTON SUPPORTERS: CHILL, ALL YOUR THREATS, STRONG ARM TACTICS WILL NOT WORK. CALM DOWN,COOL OFF, AND THEM REALLY THINK ABOUT THE GENERAL. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE THIS WAR? DO YOU REALLY WANT ROE V. WADE OVERTURNED. DO YOU REALLY WANT A CONTINUATION OF THE LAST 8 YEARS? IF SO GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR MCWAR. IF YOU ARE DOING THIS OUT OF ANGER---- GROW-UP.
>the problems with the GOP brand

As a recent NPR poll showed, their brand isn't their problem. It's their positions. In fact, Republicans who favor democratic positions and don't like Republican ones change their tune when they learn that a position is "Republican"--they go from 38% support to 66%! The opposite is true for Democrats and democratic policies.

http://trueconservative.typepad.com/trueconservative/2008/05/pubs-and-dems-brands-and-beliefs.html
It is horribly hard for the Clinton dynasty to imagine they were defeated in the name of change of Washington politics that have been devastating our families, international relations for decades! This was the decision of the American people but not friends and loyals. God bless America!
President Barack Obama, Destiny '08. You heard it hear first.  I can't afford John McCain. The war, the economy, the Supreme Court. No thanks, the straight talk express is more of the same. No McSame for me.

I will take the intelligent, visionary Senator from Illinois with a nuanced economic plan and army of engaged citizens at his back.
Sen. Clinton continues her "scorched earth" policy to wreck the Democratic party's chances of winning in November. When, pray tell, will the timid Democratic Party leaders summon the courage to send this woman packing.
Hilary needs to stop been selfish and she needs to realize that it is not about her. she stole the moment from obama yesterday because he made history. she got some nerve a said from her email that "its her nigth"
she is looking for attention, media need to pay her no mind, maybe she is bipolar. she reall needs to get a psych eval.
Obama, do not put her on your ticket....she will destroy it in purpose. after last night, i don't trust her a bit. she is bitter old womana
Before anybody switches to McCain ...

McCain divorced his first wife on her proverbial sickbed (a la the GOP's Hypocrite in Chief, the despicable Newt Gingrich). What kind of supposed war hero divorces the woman who waited for him to return from the war, and concealed her own life-threatening car crash injuries for his benefit? McCain married his current millionaire heiress beer-distributor wife, 17 years his junior, one month after dumping Carol Shepp McCain, who, as Sen. McCain so gallantly put it, "was on crutches and had gained quite a bit of weight."

"In his book, The Nightingale's Song, Robert Timberg chronicled McCain's post-Vietnam military assignments and some of his "adulterous" behavior leading to his divorce from Carol and marriage to Cindy Hensley. "

"While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."  Such behavior was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates... "

You can read the whole sad story here.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm

I don't know how any woman could vote for this two timer and still look in the mirror every morning.  

This time, instead of voting against abortion and gay marriage, and for prayer and guns (these issues will never go away) -- vote for your wallet , vote for the economy, vote for the environment, vote for jobs.

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again
Sen. Hillary Clinton speaks of uniting the party, but demonstrates devisivness in last nights speech. She doen't finally concede, she doesn't acknowledges Sen. Obama's victory, and she doesn't state where she stand at this point. So I ask, how is she uniting the democratic party?
Even in suppossed victory, Obama supporters STILL trash Hillary. I wouldn't vote for mr. Hope if you paid me, and I WAS a proud Democrat. I am now an independent. Not because Hillary lost cause frankly I dont care, but because my alleged party has become just like the Republican party, tear down those you don't like and worship those you do. simply not what I believe in.
Sen. Obama isn't sucking up at all- he's being gracious and a gentleman. Something that Clinton is unable to do (even with her testicular fortitude).

So, she needs to find her integrity which we haven't seen since 1997, dust off her pantsuit, and do what she promised now that Michigan and Florida have been counted...

Acknowledge her defeat and support our Democratic Nominee, the Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama!
I still go crazy whenever the Clinton campaign says she won the popular vote!!!  Why doesn't anyone ever speak up and say it's not true!!???


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