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First thoughts: The big upset

Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:24 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Pulling off the big upset: After 17 months, 56 contests, more than 35 million votes, and an exclamation of some 60 superdelegate endorsements yesterday, Barack Obama clinched the Democratic presidential nomination, ending the most significant and entertaining primary race in American history. And as MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann observed last night, perhaps it was only fitting that both Obama and Clinton split last night’s contests in Montana and South Dakota. But there was no mistake that the Illinois senator, who will be the first African American to be a major party’s presidential nominee, was the big winner. While he stumbled crossing the finish line -- whether it due to playing prevent defense and focusing on the general, Hillary finding her voice as the underdog, or simply a matter of geography and the nominating calendar -- Obama pulled off arguably the greatest upset in American political history. Indeed, the weight of the history is palpable, and the fact he’s an historical first is a big challenge for McCain in the fall. If someone like Obama has never gone this far before, then how does the GOP paint him as just another typical liberal politician? Obama's mere presence in the race represents a change. This may be why McCain spent so much time last night comparing his change to Obama's change. McCain's best shot at this is making the case that Obama's the wrong change.

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd gives his first read on the first day of the general election and takes a look at the geography of Obama's victory.

*** "What does Hillary want?" While Obama was last night’s big winner, yesterday’s No. 2 story of course was Hillary Clinton. The day began with a report that she would acknowledge Obama clinching the nomination. Then the Clinton campaign pushed back furiously against the report, calling it “100% wrong” and “not true.” Next came word of a conference call in which Clinton told New York congressional supporters that she was open to being Obama’s running mate. And finally, she delivered a speech in New York City that -- although praising Obama -- didn’t acknowledge his nomination and didn’t signal that she was giving up the fight. “Now the question is: Where do we go from here?” she asked last night. “Now given how far we’ve come and where we need to go as a party, it’s a question I don’t take lightly. This has been a long campaign, and I will be making no decisions tonight.” But what other decision can she make? Her speech, which came after the networks declared Obama the presumptive nominee, seemed akin to the losing football team remaining on the field after the game is already over and celebrating with its fans. As the New York Times’ Nagourney puts it: “Like her husband, Mrs. Clinton has a way of becoming the center of attention even when the spotlight is supposed to be trained elsewhere.” That reality might make the prospect of her becoming Obama’s running mate more difficult than some of her supporters realize.

*** What’s next for Hillary? Per NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, close advisers say that Clinton needs a few days to decompress and that she will be in DC tonight hosting an 89th birthday party for her mother, Dorothy Rodham, at the Clinton home. They also tell Mitchell that despite any disclaimers, she DOES want to be on the ticket. It is an issue they would have to explore face to face. No meetings now planned. Obama told her last night he would be available on her timetable. Why is she not conceding, given the reality that he has secured the nomination? A close friend and adviser said: "We were going flat-out until last night. We poured everything into winning South Dakota. Now she needs some time to decompress." Another said: "She knows she has maximum leverage right now." The Clintons clearly believe that Obama needs her supporters -- and that they can continue this dance for at least a few more days, despite pressure from party leaders to get it done.

*** It’s no longer her party: The next few days will be filled with Clinton political obits and many will focus on the strategic blunders of the campaign, including the decision to let Obama dictate the pace of the race (see those January '07 dueling Web videos); Mark Penn's focus on preparing Clinton for the general rather than realizing there was a primary; and glossing over the caucus states. But did Clinton ever actually have a chance? Think about this fact. Since February 5, she secured fewer than 40 superdelegate endorsements... 40! No matter what the polls said or what her margins of victory were in Ohio or Pennsylvania or West Virginia, the party leaders would not allow themselves to be swayed away from Obama. Perhaps the Clinton hold on the party was gone a lot sooner than some of us in the media realized. These folks were simply looking for an excuse to dump the Clintons. The inability to prevent Howard Dean from taking over the DNC or the Dems taking back Congress without the leadership of the Clintons may have been more significant in telling the story of how the Democrats kicked their Clinton habit. This may be Barack Obama's party now. But this ceased being the Clintons' party a long time ago. However, we only noticed this now. Seriously, if someone said to you 18 months ago that the Democratic nomination will be decided by the superdelegates, who would have you bet on under those circumstances -- Clinton or Obama?

*** Give that man a mic: On paper, doing what McCain did last night -- delivering a primetime speech on the final day of the Democratic primary, with several well-written barbs at Obama -- was a good idea. But in practice, it might have been a big mistake. We received numerous emails from even GOP sources, who weren’t impressed with the speech or that green background. Where were the people standing behind him!!??, asked one unaffiliated Republican strategist. The truth is, McCain just isn’t a podium guy. He needs the microphone in his hand and the ability to speak off the cuff. That’s his strength. And, ironically, it's Obama's weakness. While Obama has his share of challenges as we head into the general election, perhaps McCain’s biggest one besides the problems with the GOP brand is rising to the occasion to give a speech that tries to come close to what Obama can deliver. The debate negotiations between these two are going to fascinating, because McCain's going to want more off-the-cuff, town-hall formats; Obama will want a podium. The good news for McCain: There aren't multiple election nights where the country compares the two side-by-side. There are, at a minimum, four events: the conventions and the three debates. By the way, the substance of McCain's speech was very reassuring to many conservative reformers. They liked what they READ, but are they comfortable with what they HEARD?

*** Battleground watch: Now that the general can unofficially get underway, look for both campaigns to start their 25-30 state plan ASAP. In fact, McCain's been on the air with semi-significant spending in five states, including Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. How soon will Obama join him on the air in these states? And how many states will Obama advertise in initially? Will the buy be wide and far and include states like North Dakota and Texas. Or will he narrow his focus fairly quickly and simply expand to the predictable places like Colorado and Virginia in addition to the '00 and '04 battlegrounds?

*** Where we stand: Obama has picked up at least three more superdelegates since last night: from DCCC chair Chris Van Hollen, New Hampshire Party chair Raymond Buckley and NJ Sen. Frank Lautenberg. Obama is ahead in pledged delegates per the NBC hard count (1,743 to 1,641), Edwards’ pledged delegates (21-0), superdelegates (395.5 to 292), total delegates (2,159.5 to 1,933), the total number of contests won (33 to 22), and the non-Puerto Rico popular vote by 158,155 (17,449,889 to 17,291,734). Two notes: 1) we’re not including Texas in this contest count, given that Clinton won the primary but Obama won the caucus and netted the most total Texas delegates, and 2) after Saturday’s DNC decision, we’re now counting Florida and Michigan as wins for Clinton -- but, per guidance from the DNC, we’re including Florida’s popular vote but not Michigan’s. More on the popular vote… If you count Puerto Rico, Obama still leads by 16,493 votes (17,571,347 to 17,554,854). The only measure in which Clinton leads in the popular vote is if you include Michigan. When you add those results and don’t give Obama “Uncommitted,” Clinton’s lead increases to 311,658 (17,883,005 to 17,571,347). Of course, none of our popular vote counts includes votes in the Dems Abroad primary, Guam, Virgin Islands, Maine, or Washington State.

*** The beat still goes on: On the first post-primary day of 2008, both Obama and Clinton are still on the campaign trail -- well, sort of. They both address AIPAC, the pro-Israel group. Obama goes at 9:55 am ET, while Clinton speaks at 10:25 am ET. This is actually Clinton's next best chance to begin impressing Obama for veep consideration. If Clinton can help Obama with his Jewish problem, then she can make a strong electoral case to helping Obama in states like Florida and Pennsylvania and solidify the ticket in New Jersey.

*** On the trail: Clinton has no other events on her schedule beyond her AIPAC speech; McCain is in Baton Rouge, LA, where he does a town hall, holds a media avail, and raises money before he goes to St. Petersburg, FL for another fundraiser; and Obama, after his own remarks to AIPAC, speaks via satellite to the Service Employees International Union conference taking place in Puerto Rico, and then he headlines a DNC fundraiser at a private home in New York City that will raise $28,500 per person for the party.

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Welcome, Pat in Huntington, NY!  Glad to have you on board the train to the White House!
Okay, you stated that he's sucking up to Hillary for what?... It's over for Hillary!!!! While she ran hard and nasty race you must begin to ask yourself a few questions:
1) Why would she want to be on a ticket with the "man" she stated that is not ready on day 1?
2) With the many splits of voters that she has made, why does she believe that she should get the position?
3) With Hillary as Vice President, where would Bill be in this issue?
4) Would there be a direction to remove him from office so she can assume the position?
5) Would Bill and Hillary overturn his direction since he would not be able to remove her from that position?
6) Why haven't she closed up her tent yet, is there something deceitful going on???
I do believe that there are other people within the U.S. that is just as good or better choices.....
 Please votes fo misser obamamma @Obamamma.com
Okay ladies and gentlemen, when the overall worst president in the history of our republic congratulates Sen. Obama before his opponent does, you have hit the rock bottom of your integrity.  Sen. Clinton is singlehandedly embarrassing the Democratic party to the point of her probable exclusion from all of the future of this election cycle.  DISGRACE>
Thanks Chuck. Congratulations to Barack Obama. He ran a classy campaign & I look forward to the general election.  HRC was ungracious and a disappointment last nite.  She missed a golden opportunity to show some grace and unite the party.  How sad that she still thinks it's all about her.
Does anyone else, other than me, realize that Obama is promoting Socialism instead of Democracy? This guy is NOT the answer we need in this day and age. He doesn't place his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegance, his Pastor/Mentor does not believe in the same God as the rest of us Christians do. Oh yea, and no matter what he says, he was RAISED AS A MUSLIM! America, wake up! We do not need a Muslim, or as he says, A FORMER MUSLIM, running our country.

How can the rest of America not see what damage Obama can do to this GREAT country if he gets elected?
The only thing that could stop Obama from becoming president would be if Hillary ran as his VP.  Hillary has become a curse to the Democratic party.  If he picks her for VP McCain will WIN BIG.
Hillary Clinton CANNOT be VP.  Her attempt to undercut his victory by preempting his announcement with her own VP announcement proves that he would never be able to govern effectively.  He would forever have to deal with her desire to be president.  

Not to mention having to deal with Bill.  Bill's claim that somehow Barack was to blame for the Vanity Fair article written by the husband of his press secretary is just a prime example of the Clinton's lack of ethics and morality.

And of course Hillary chose to make her speech in a dungeon with no access to the outside media.  She obviously did not want her supporters to know that Barack had already received the required delegate.

Did she congratulate Barack on his win?  Of course not.  Her speech was all about ME Hillary Clinton

If Barack chooses her as his VP he does so at his own peril.

To me, and I certainly remember the Kennedy/Johnson administration, would be a repeat of the same.

I would put NOTHING past the Clinton's.  After all it was HRC who brought up assassination issue as her reason for continuing her campaign.  

Did she apologize to Barack?  No.  She apologized to the Kennedy's.

So who was she campaigning against?  The Kennedy's

Hillary has proven to me that she is as morally and ethically corrupt as her husband.

I would hope one day to see a woman president just not HRC.  Not even as VP.
After last nights speeches, all I can say is, if John "McClain" were running for president, the Republicans might have a chance. But John McCain?
Clinton would NOT be a stronger candidate. Obama didn't go after her, not because there isn't anything there but that wasn't the race he ran.  The Republicans would and they wrote the book on this.  Bill/Hillary will have to explain a TON including their finances, money to his library, Middle East money.  Every candidate says they are the stronger candidate but HRC would be hard pressed to get BO votes if she was won the primary.
McCain makes Gerald Ford look like Pericles.
Once can imagine that the telepromters had little margin notes that said "smile here"
Please, please, please Hillary and your followers (white, female, under-educated, post-menopausal Appalachian bigots) SHUT UP & GO AWAY NOW. It's over!! You go Obama!!!
good idea there I think an independant ticket would wrap this up.Glad I looked in today will contact her with this idea. Millions wont vote Obama and it would be kind of dem win.You people keep pushing and will spend a cold Nov. The least I hope from Hillary is suspension.See ya at convention guys keep putting out that vile. We were told couple months ago cannt take it waay from Blacks ok you got it have fun.She kept winning but Obama has to have it cause cannt disappoint the blacks. What a platform to run on. Hope the Repubs are as politically correct as us.
C A in Tuscaloosa, I completely agree.....McCain cannot connect two cohesive sentences without a teleprompter or a Lieberman smack in front of him----if he doesn't know what he needs/wants to say by now, he truly is the Bush/RNC mouthpiece.
How much time does Obama and the Dem brass give Hillary to listen to her rabid following's rants on her website and decide "what she wants"? She needs to wrap this up by the weekend.

http://www.political-buzz.com/
GO AMERICA, GO!!!  I think Obama/Biden would be a great ticket!!!
If HRC is to get any respect at all now, she needs to congratulate Barack and bow out by the end of the week; if she doesn't, her reputation will suffer greatly!!  It's called acceptance!!!!!!!!!!!
Mav,

I have not seen any sucking up to Hillary by Obama.  What mirrored ball are you looking through or where are you getting your resources?  He is trying to bring the party back together after her selfish acts.  Barack and his supporters believe in unity and division also we care about all that don't care about us.  

Barack can win without her.  I don't think he will pick her as his VP as she does not represent anything that his campaign stands for as she is "politics as usual."  She is very smart but made some bad decisions.  

It is very sad that on a historic day in our country, where people are uniting that someone would say something so divisive as your statement.  I like Hillary but I think that this is what caused her the nomination, her negative attacks and being divisive.  

We are being realistic and hopefully one day you will do the same.  Wake up to reality, Barack has won regardless of what happens next.  We will enjoy this victory with a nice glass of wine and not let someone like yourself lessen the celebration.  

The party is over for Hillary and it makes me sad to say that it is her own fault.  I hope she runs again by herself and not use her husband as a crutch and run a positive campaign.  

Take care, God Bless and I wish you good health, great life and prosperity....
It would be "Horrific" if Obama were to win the General Election. The supporters do not understand what they are supporting: Higher taxes, socialized government that runs healthcare/, an inexperianced hypocrit, and an unqualified leader. The USA needs:
John MCCain 2008-2012/
Hey Mav, Just because you're a racist doesn't mean America is -we've gotten way past that - take your rhetoric back to the Stone Age.
Sue from Cali - I like it! Love Biden and Obama both!
Now THERE'S a Dream Team!
Paul Miller from Va - I agree with you, very bizarre speech by Hillary. Time to take her football and go home. By her speech last night, she has now earned the official title of "pathetic." Hillary, sometimes reality sucks. Put on your big girl pants and deal with it.  
The winner of the primaries so far has been Chuck Todd.

McCain needs to rethink his comments about the DEM party chiefs selecting the nominee.  Take a look at how McCain "won" Louisiana.  The GOP held a caucus; the voters picked Huckabee; the GOP leaders awarded the state to McCain.
Obama did not WIN the democratic big wigs gave him the election.  I will vote republican and urge all democrates that voted for Hillary to contact the Super delegates(ha ha) and tell them to vote for the candidate that the people wanted.  Hillary got the popular vote but the powers want Obama and gave it to him. This is not going to unite but divide the democratic party the way they mistreated Hillary.
The first African American to win a nomination and hillary cant find the decency to congratulate him? she is disgusting.

I wish she would run as an independent this white working woman in her 50's is embarrassed that she is a Democrat.  Clinton has gone off the deep end and she can take her so called feminist supporters suffering from racism and delusion with her.
KEEP IT UP OBAMA SUPPORTERS.... so much for your hand to unite................

but then again if you keep up  your elitism...you and your product will will feel hillarys supporters in november !!!
"votes with George Bush 95% of the time"

What's sad is Mr. Obama could not beat John McCain in an upfront contest. Mr. McCain is a better Democrat!

But, he won't fight upfront. He will run his campaign against a weaker opponent. One he knows he can beat, George Bush. Well Mr. Obama your a bit of a coward.
When i watch sports espically championship games and a team loose its the hardest thing to do is go over and congradulate the winner. Hillary will not be Sen. Obama V.P. She dont have enough experience in common sence.
Obama Supporters: Quickly, name one thing he has done in the Senate that is "stellar."  

He's pomp and circumstance and nothing more--"we can change the world"?  Really? By giving speeches you can just come in to Washington and declare a holiday and all the terrorists abroad will lay down their arms, inflations will fall, the dollar rises, and gas prices ease?  Good luck.
Once again the democrats have put the weakest link up as the nominee. I guess they really want another republican in the white house.
I also have a great fear that HRC will decide to run on an independent ticket, not becuase she thinks she can win, but it would open the door for her to run again in 4 years. She is selfish and would rather destroy the party than try to rebuild it.  I think she is angry and bitter that "her" party no longer supports her and she is turning in circles trying to figure out what happened.  And I can't beleive she has the nerve to even suggest being VP after the way she has treated Obama. I don't believe Obama will disappoint his support base by taking her though.  He will, as usual, come up with a polite but firm way of dealing with her childish tantrum.  

 I don't beleive  she is ,but if Hillary was weak too tag along with yhat holy man obammy,i would nwver mention her name in my home again much less vote for those unqualified geeks that have our country in such a mess now yhey have had control of yhr congresss for over two years now ,look at this crap were tn!

 I don't beleive  she is ,but if Hillary was weak too tag along with yhat holy man obammy,i would nwver mention her name in my home again much less vote for those unqualified geeks that have our country in such a mess now yhey have had control of yhr congresss for over two years now ,look at this crap were tn!
it will be a sad day if obama wins who in there right mind can trust this guy that is friends with a known terriost. how could you anyone trust him
This campaign was Hillary's to lose. In fact she had my vote in the beginning. She was the celebrity front runner, but she brought along a lot of baggage (Bubba) and she made really bad mistakes.

America is awesome! No more McBush!
Hillary Clinton is in a dream.  It's bad enough she is a poor loser but she also looks pretty silly to Woman voters.  As the first woman possible president of US, she needs to end this with dignity.  The Clintons are finish.  I wish they would just go away and help Obama to the White House.  Congratulations, Mr. Obama.  We're all behind you.  Keep inspiring us.
smear and vile what a way to win the White House sure isnt with class like Hillary has.Obama had to announce he made it himself what brashness.His haveing his rally at(look at me i got to go here first)how the world is laughing at us. We will have 0 credability instead of low.Man just to appease the blacks we lose the White House. Hillary wont help you I still wouldnt vote Obama.
clinton has no place on the ticket.. she is all wrong for obama.. this primary has single handly ruined the clinton legacy.. sorry pat, fellow long islander.. its not in the stars.. she is all wrong for the GE.

hagel, edwards, maybe even strickland or biden.. but no clinton near the ticket.
McCain can'nt so we will have an Obama nation.
Some thoughts...

1. Wouldn't it be funny if there were more people in St. Paul last night for Senator Obama's rally than will be there in September for the Republican Convention?

2. Senator McCain's speech was disgraceful last night.  His "Uncle Fluffy" routine is getting old (pun intended) fast.  Bottom line, he looked and sounded like a used car salesman last night.

3. What does Senator Clinton want?  Contrary to reports, I don't think she wants to be Senator Obama's running mate and VP candidate.

4. Sorry, Clinton supporters, but Senator Obama's first "presidential" decision can not be to choose Senator Clinton as his running mate...and you know it.  It would immediately indermine his credibility and authority as the nominee.

5. At least finally congratulated Senator Obama last night...there's a first.  But beyond that, what was the point of last night's speech?  She didn't acknowledge his victory last night and by saying she wouldn't make any "decisions" it's as if she's just sticking her fingers in her ears going, "LA LA LA LA LA, I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU!"

6. Did anyone else catch Terry McAuliffe last night on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart?  Hillarious!  "So, I guess, the strategy is act deranged enough and they'll give you the country," Stewart asked.
I musat say taht I am glad this is all happening in my life time, the first African-American to have a more than 50/50 short at the Presidency of the United States. Just short of 50 years after Jim Crow. This is truly historic.

Obama '08
Obama came out of the curupt Daily machine of Chicago and he is just another politician.  He will say and do anything to be elected.  He claims to be an instrument of political change but watch closely over the next 5 months and you will see just another politician trying to convince the gullible public to elect him to office.  Our governmental system is truly broken but Obama is not going to fix it, he is just going to try to remake it to suite his needs.
God help this country if Obama becomes president!!!!
Greatest upset?  Isnt that what the media pushed for all along. Obama needs to thank MSNBC, Fox and CNN for his nomination, not the voters.  They basically laid out the carpet from their bias news coverage and handed it to Obama.  

He does need Hillary's support and he knows it.  Hillary won 18 million voters who will stay the course with her until she endorses or becomes part of his ticket.  I would rather see her do something else...like hold his hand to the fire on issues. She will be formidable in his Presidency, whether she is on the ticket or not.    
Please People - Get Over it.
Pres-Obama      VP-Hillary

Stop fighting.
That is it.
Thank You the Trishter
As I really agree that Obama would definately need Clinton as his VP, Obama doesn't have to suck up to Clinton because he won the nominee. Clinton has to do her share by supporting the Democratic party. If she doesn't than what kind of leader is she if she takes it personal that he won!?
My computer at home is broken and my TV doesn't have cable, so I wasn't able to watch the speeches last night, but this morning, I bought the Portland Press Herald and I'm going to take it home and preserve it, headline: Triumphant Obama claims Nomination.
NO HILLARY as VP... PLEASE don't do that to us Barack.
I am about as liberal as they get, but there is no way that Obama is ready to be President of our country.  Even if my Hillary was in the VP slot, I couldn't vote for Obama. John McCain is the better choice this time and will get my vote. We need somebody with his experience to reach out and make the changes necessary. I have a good feeling that many educated Americans like me will see this too.  I am praying that is the case!
Once again, Hillary showed us all that she's classless and pathetic. She's incapable of admitting defeat, to the point where she has to lie about the popular vote to claim victory. What a sad day for all those who have supported her, to realize they've been duped by a self centered egotist.
"Coolaid drinkers"? You couldnt be any more brainwashed than hardcore Clinton supporters. I voted for Bill twice and liked Hillary in this election but she is not a good loser and she tried to skirt the rules in Florida and Michigan and people were afraid to make her stick to her word. That was a hug turn off for me.


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