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Obama blasts McCain on the economy

Posted: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:25 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy and NBC's Mark Murray
RALEIGH, NC -- In a speech kicking off his two-week economic tour through battleground states, Obama spent a considerable amount of time introducing many of his differences with McCain on economic policy that his campaign will emphasize between now and November.

VIDEO: Barack Obama takes aim at the Republican Party's economic policy.

In particular, Obama highlighted what he said was President Bush's "fiscally irresponsible" record and McCain's defense of those policies. "We were promised a fiscal conservative," Obama said of President Bush. "Instead, we got the most fiscally irresponsible administration in history. And now John McCain wants to give us another. Well, we've been there once, and we're not going back."

Obama also connected McCain to the president on the issue of health care, claiming that McCain's proposal would amount to "four more years of a health-care plan that only takes care of the healthy and the wealthy." And he hit McCain on being slow to release a plan to address the housing crisis.

"As late as December, John McCain told a newspaper in New Hampshire that he'd love to offer a solution to the housing crisis, but he just didn't have one," Obama said. "It took him three different tries to figure it out. And in the end, his plan does nothing to help 1.5 million homeowners who are facing foreclosure, even as he supported spending billions to bail out Wall Street... Sen. McCain wants to turn Bush's policy of 'too little, too late' into a policy of 'even less, even later.'" 

While rolling out his own proposals, Obama boasted that he was a believer in a pay-as-you-go system, while McCain's plan is to pay for his tax cuts with decreases in wasteful spending. This, Obama said, "indicates that John McCain was right when he said that he doesn't understand the economy as well as he should."

Obama said that every proposal he's made in his campaign is paid for, including the additional $50 billion in economic stimulus money he called for today, the $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund that would deal with at-risk homeowners, and the tax cuts for households making less than $150,000 per year.

According to his speech today, those tax cuts would provide "relief to 95% of workers and their families," an argument that the Obama campaign will surely push hard to defend against McCain's argument that Obama is a "tax and spend liberal."

In addition to these steps, Obama made less specific calls for college tuition relief, increased oversight of the credit card industry and bankruptcy reform saying, "We'll make sure that if you can demonstrate that you went bankrupt because of medical expenses, you can relieve that debt and get back on your feet."

The conclusion of today's speech was the same as the beginning: Obama represents a new approach to the economy and McCain does not. "We have tried it their way for eight long years," Obama said. "And it has failed. It is time to try something new. It is time for change." 

McCain campaign fires back
In a conference call responding to Obama's speech, North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr criticized the presumptive Democratic nominee for voting to raise taxes 94 times since joining the Senate, for not describing in detail how he would pay for his stimulus proposals, and for devoting much of his speech to attacking McCain.

"I think the speech we heard today is what the American people are sick and tired of," Burr said, adding that McCain wants to reduce corporate and middle-class taxes and wants to make the tax system fairer.

Also on the call, McCain economic adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin said Obama was hypocritical in arguing in his speech that McCain's economic plan would include $1.2 billion in tax breaks for Exxon when Obama voted for an energy bill that was a boon to the oil industry. And he also blasted Obama for placing his veep selection process in the hands of a man -- ex Fannie Mae head Jim Johnson -- who benefited from preferential loans from subprime lender Countrywide.

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JOHN McCAIN REVEALED:  

On the Economy

John McCain said it in his own words: He justdoesn’t understand the economy. His economic plan would give big tax breaks to corporationsand tax workers’ health care benefits. We call on McCain to help turn around America, not choose corporations over working families.
JOHN McCAIN IN HIS OWN WORDS: HE JUST DOESN’T GET IT
McCain: I Never Really Understood Economics. McCain said, “The issue of economics is something that I’ve really never understood as well as I should.” (Boston Globe, 12/18/07)
McCain: Americans Have Seen Great Economic Progress Since Bush Took Offi ce.
Since President Bush took office, “I think if you look atthe overall record and millions of jobs have been created…you can make an argument that there’s been great progresseconomically over that period of time,” McCain said. (“Money & Politics,” Bloomberg, 4/17/08)
McCain Says We’re NOT Headed Into a Recession. McCain said, “I don’t believe we’re headed into a recession. I believe the fundamentals of this economyare strong, and I believe they will remain strong.” (GOP Debate, Myrtle Beach, FNC, 1/10/08)
McCAIN’S ECONOMIC PROPOSALS: HELP CORPORATIONS, NOT WORKING FAMILIES
McCain Offers Massive Tax Cuts for Corporations and the Wealthy. McCain’s tax plan offers two massive tax cuts for corporations, slashingtax rates from 35 percent to 25 percent, with 58 percent ofthe benefits going to the top 1 percent of taxpayers. This isan even larger tax rate cut for the wealthiest taxpayersthan Bush gave them. (Reuters, 3/10/08; “Five Easy Pieces and
Two Trillion Dollars,” Center for American Progress Action Fund,
3/21/08)
But He Wants to Tax Our Health Benefi ts.
McCain would make employer-paid health premiumspart of taxable income, creating a new tax on workingfamilies. He would drive insurance costs up further bypromoting high-deductible health savings account plans. (Health08.org, Forum, 10/31/07; Kaiser/HRET Employer Health
Benefits 2007 Annual Survey; Center on Budget and Policy Priorities,
9/20/06, 4/5/06)
McCain’s Tax Cuts Would Cut Social Programs Working Families Need. “McCain cannot pay for his tax cuts without massive reductionsin Social Security, Medicare or other key programs thatbenefit the vast majority of Americans.” (“Five Easy Pieces and Two Trillion Dollars,” Center for American Progress Action Fund,
3/21/08)
Out-of-control gas prices are choking off the American dream for working families. But instead of boosting the economy by investing in jobs and energy, George Bush gave tax breaks to millionaires and oil companies. And he’s spending $10 billion a month on the war in Iraq.
John McCain? More of the same. He’s voted with Bush to help the special interests, not working families. Now he wants to give MORE tax breaks to Big Oil.
• McCain’s tax plan would give $3.8 billion in tax cuts to the five largest American oil companies. (Center for American Progress Action Fund, 3/27/08)
• Does Big Oil need tax breaks? Last year, ExxonMobil made $40 billion in profits— the largest single-year profits ever made by a U.S. company.
• Like Bush, McCain protects Big Oil’s profits. Last year, McCain was the only senator to miss a vote on the energy bill repealing tax subsidies for oil companies. In 2005, he voted against a temporary windfall profits tax on oil companies to fund tax credits for working families. Previously, he opposed ending tax breaks for oil and natural gas companies related to depletion and drilling costs. (H.R. 6, Vote 425, 12/13/07; S.Amdt. 2635, Vote 341, 11/17/05; S.Amdt. 2587, Vote 331, 11/17/05;

S.Amdt. 2782/H.R. 776, Vote 159, 7/29/92)
■ McCain has received $723,777 in campaign contributions from oil and gas industry PACs and employees—almost twice as much as Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. (Center for Responsive Politics, www.opensecrets.org, accessed 5/31/08)
We CAN’T AFFORD more of the same. Tell John McCain “NO.”  

It’s Time to Turn Around America
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AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE AFL-CIO
McCAIN IS


McCain Wants to Tax Your Health Care Benefits. McCain’s plan will create a new tax on working families by making employer-provided health benefits part of taxable income. (Health08.org, Forum, 10/31/07)
McCain’s Plan Jeopardizes Our Health Care. It undermines existing employer-based health care and pushes workers into the private market to fight big insurance companies on their own. Despite a modest tax credit, his plan will increase costs, reduce benefits and leave many with no health care at all. (Kaiser/HRET, Employer Health Benefits 2007 Annual Survey; Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 4/5/06; Los Angeles Times, 11/20/07; Commonwealth Fund, 6/05)
McCain Opposed Health Care for Millions of Children. McCain voted against reauthorizing the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) because he said it covered too many children. He then missed critical votes to provide an additional $35 billion to cover 4 million more children. (H.R. 976, Vote #307, 8/2/07; Vote #353, 9/27/07; Vote #403, 11/1/07; Congressional Record, 8/2/07)
in cuts for Medicaid. He also supported raising the eligibility age for Medicare and increasing seniors’ premiums. (S. 1932, Vote #363, 12/21/05; S. 1932, Vote #287, 11/3/05; SCR 18, Vote #9, 3/17/05; SCR 18, Vote #58, 3/17/05)


VOTE Nov. 4 ★ U.S. President www.mccainrevealed.org
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Big Breaks for Big Oil

Gas prices are skyrocketing and driving up costs of other basic needs such as groceries. But instead of reining in outrageous oil company profits, John McCain wants to give them more tax breaks. We call on him to support working families, not tax breaks for Big Oil.
GAS PRICES AND PROFITS SOAR
Oil Companies Report Huge Profi ts While Gas Prices Soar, Fueling Calls for Windfall Profi ts Tax. BP and Shell reported combined first-quarter profits of $17 billion due to record crude oil prices.ExxonMobil reported $10.89 billion in profits, Chevronreported a net income of $5.17 billion and ConocoPhillipsreported $4 billion in profits. The huge profits fueled critics’calls for a windfall profits tax on oil companies as workingfamilies struggle to pay rising fuel costs. (Associated Press, 4/29/08; BizJournals.com, 5/2/08; Wall Street Journal, 5/2/08)
• Crude Oil Prices Pass $120 Per Barrel; Gas Prices Jump 22 Percent. Since the beginning of the year,crude oil has reached a staggering, record-breakingprice of  $119 per barrel, which caused gas prices toincrease by 22 percent. The average price of a gallonof gas is approaching $4. (Associated Press, 4/29/08; The Washington Post, 5/1/08)
• Grocery Prices Jump, Too. Over the past year, thecost of milk increased 13.3 percent, the cost of breadincreased by 14.7 percent and the cost of eggs rose by

29.9 percent. (U.S. Department of Labor, CPI Detailed Report, March 2008)
AND McCAIN WANTS TO GIVE OIL COMPANIES MORE BREAKS
McCain Plan Offers $3.8 Billion in Tax Cuts to Oil Companies. McCain’s current plan woulddeliver $3.8 billion in tax cuts to the five largest American oilcompanies. (“The McCain Plan to Cut Oil Company Taxes by Nearly $4 Billion,” Center for American Progress Action Fund, 3/27/08)
McCain Missed Vote Repealing Tax Breaks for Oil Companies. In 2007, McCain was the onlysenator to miss a vote on the energy bill repealing taxsubsidies for oil companies. (H.R. 6, Vote #425, 12/13/07)
McCain Voted Against a Windfall Profi ts Tax for Oil Companies and a Tax Rebate for Working Families. In 2005, McCain voted againstimposing a temporary windfall profits tax on oil companiesand using the proceeds to provide nonrefundable tax creditsto working families. (S.Amdt. 2635, Vote# 341, 11/17/05; S.Amdt. 2587, Vote #331, 11/17/05)
McCain Supported Tax Breaks for Oil and Natural Gas Companies. Earlier, McCain opposedeliminating tax breaks for oil and natural gas companiesrelated to depletion and drilling costs. (S.Amdt. 2782/HR. 776, Vote #159, 7/29/92)
www.mccainrevealed.org
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. Will Increase Health Care Costs and Reduce Access. McCain’s plan undermines existing employer-based health care and pushes workers into the private market to fi ght big insurance companies on their own. He will make health care premiums part of taxable income, essentially creating a new tax for working families. His plan will reduce benefi ts, increase costs and leave many with no health care at all. (CBPP, 4/5/06; Health08.org, Forum, 10/31/07; Los Angeles Times, 11/20/07; Commonwealth Fund, 6/2005)
. Supports Unfair Trade Deals.
McCain voted for NAFTA and CAFTA, and to allow China to enter the WTO although the United States has lost more than 1 million jobs because of NAFTA and 1.8 million jobs since China entered the WTO. (H.R. 3450, Vote #395, 11/20/93; S. 1307, Vote #170, 6/30/05; H.R. 4444, Vote #251, 9/19/00; Economic Policy Institute, 10/9/07)
. More of the Same. McCain supported President Bush’s positions 95 percent of the time in 2007 and an average of 89 percent over Bush’s two terms in offi ce. (Congressional Quarterly Voting Study, 110th Congress)
. Opposes Our Right to Bargain.
McCain voted against the Employee Free Choice Act, which would level the playing field for workers trying to form unions, and for a national Right-to-Work-for-Less law that would attempt to eliminate unions altogether.
(H.R. 800, Vote #227, 6/26/07; S. 1788, Vote #188, 7/10/96)
. Jeopardized Our Retirement Security. McCain supports privatizing Social Security, putting our retirement at risk, and raising the Medicare eligibility age. (SCR 83, Vote #68, 3/16/06; SCR 18, Vote #49, 3/15/05; S. Amdt.144 to SCR 18, Vote #47, 3/15/05; SCR 86, Vote #56, 4/1/98; SCR 86, Vote #77, 4/1/98; S. 947, Vote #112, S. Amdt. 445, Vote #115, 6/25/97)
===================================================== Underfunding and understaffi ng have created a crisis in veterans’ health care. More than 400,000 veterans are awaiting decisions on disability claims. Tens of thousands
of veterans are waiting months to see a doctor. We respect John McCain’s
service to our country, but when given the opportunity to address this crisis, he
has failed America’s veterans—past, present and
future. (FederalTimes.com,
3/26/08)
Voted Against Increased Funding for Veterans’ Health Care. McCain voted against increasing funding for veterans’ health care in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. (Senate Vote 40, 3/10/04; Senate Vote 55, 3/16/05; Senate Vote 41, 3/14/06; Senate Vote 126, 3/29/07)
Supported Outsourcing at Walter Reed.
McCain opposed an amendment to the FY 2007 Department of Defense Appropriations Bill that would have prevented the outsourcing of 350 federal employees’ jobs at Walter Reed Army Medical Center—outsourcing that contributed to scandalous treatment of veterans at Walter Reed. (Senate Vote 234, 9/6/06)

Opposed an Assured Funding Stream for Veterans’ Health Care. McCain opposed an amendment to provide an assured funding stream for veterans’ health care, taking into account annual changes in veterans’ population and inflation. (Senate Vote 63, 3/16/06)
Supported Outsourcing VA Jobs.
McCain opposed an amendment that would have prevented the Department of Veterans Affairs from outsourcing jobs, many held by blue-collar veterans, without first giving the workers a chance to compete. (Senate Vote 315, 9/6/07)
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I can't believe that with everything this country has been through with Dumbya, someone would seriously consider voting for this fraud.  Not to mention the fact that he still wants to continue a war that was based on a lie.

OBAMA, 2008!
All Obama offers is ways to increase everybody's tax rates.  Who is he fooling about soaking it to the rich?  Any idiot knows we are all going to be taxed out of our minds!  Why any idiot would talk about raising taxes when people are hurting is a fool.  Obama has already said he can do nothing about high gas prices (he told the truth there).  Congress is more concerned about the Senate dining room and using taxpayer money to make payroll next week then they are about getting cheaper fuel.

Liberalism is a disease.....
Obama can be critical of McCain all he wants. His ideas amount to nothing, and his only hope is that his Hope and Change theme somehow gets him to the White House.

Obama is the one proposing that there be a Windfall Profits Tax on big oil. Okay, that's a typical populist message of going after the big mean corporations (you know, the ones that employ millions of people). But how would increasing taxes find one more drop of oil? How will increasing taxes reduce the price at the pump?

Barack Obama wakes ups each and every day and asks himself the question "What would Jimmy Carter do?".
That's what I'm talking about!  Mcblame has NO economic proposals except keep up the tax giveaways to the rich.  Obama needs to hit him HARD on that, and let the country know how he differes from the Mcsameoldmcsameold that John Dubya wants for the country.
Go Barack!  Pretty lame response from McCain camp.  Obama is just telling it like it is and pointing out their extreme differences on policy like he should be doing.  How is this attacking Peepaw?  It's okay for Old Man McCain to call Barack young and dumb but when Obama points out clear policy differences he's attacking...I see how this will play out...not good for the oldster.
McCain's economic plan would include $1.2 billion in tax breaks for Exxon? Yikes! That IS Bush third term thinking.
Barack Obama is just so lost and confused after his primary battle, he doesn't even start to make any sense and seems more delusional then usual. Why in the world does Obama even try to make believe he knows anything about the economy? The closest he's ever gotten to understanding it was when he voted 'Present' on  budget issues all those years he was in the Illinois Senate.
Obama is going to win in a landslide.
Once upon a time, President Reagan put forth the Grace Commission -- this commission was supposed to identify government waste and get rid of it to save us all money.  This Commission didn't achieve much.

Now, as Senator McCain looks back in time for his policy ideas, he again proposes something that didn't work.  We all know there is waste in the system; but history has taught us that the best way to eliminate this waste is serious Congressional oversight (which our current President abhors) and reforms in Congress (which Senator Obama championed and got passed in the Senate).

We also know that much of this waste is directly attributable to special interests out of control.  Neither Senator Obama, nor the Democratic National Committee, are taking money from these special interests anymore.  Who do you trust more to actually reform the system?  Senator Obama, and the Democratic Party who are only accountable to us, or Senator McCain and the Republican Party who are accountable mainly to the special interests PACs and federally registered lobbyists?

My trust goes to the candidate and the party who are walking the walk and not simply talking the talk -- and that candidate is Senator Obama, and that party is the Democratic Party.
Is this even going to be a contest come November? McFossil doesn't stand a chance when it comes to debating Obama.....the old man can't give a speech without a telepromter, moving his stiff head from side to side like he's NOT looking at it! Obama is back in stride now that Clinton is off his back!
BOO-YAH!!!
The President has nothing to do with the economy.

Ben Bernanke is Federal Reserve Chairman and will be after the Presidental election in Nov. All 100 members of the US Senate confirmed Mr. Bernanke including Mr. Obama and Mr McCain and Mrs. Clinton.

McCain was more gung-ho about nuclear power and expanded domestic drilling for oil and natural gas. When a donor in Richmond summed up his advice as, "nuclear, and drill wherever we've got it," McCain responded: "You just gave my speech. Thank you, my friend."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25063183

McCain needs to explain how he can keep railing against government involvement in health care when he enjoys one as a member of senate. Isnt it more sincere to give up this coverage first before railing against it? And what do we get? $5000 tax credit for health coverage which costs about $20000 per family and effectively ending employer subsidized health plans.
Tax giveaways are liberal code for capitalism. And the libs are against both. And that's why they're in total unconditional love with Barack Obama.
No one has brought the economy into more of a state of chaos than the republican party.  Chuck Todd, whom do I trust more on economic issues?  Yeah, that would be Obama.

(And I *run* our household budget!)

http://midwestmoms.blogspot.com
Barack tied McOld to Bush on Economics.
Barack tied McOld to Bush on Health Care.
Barack has or will tie McOld Bush on the War.  

Looks like a "hat trick" to me.  

Barack will tie McOld to lobbists and PAC's.
I sometimes wonder if John McCain is becoming the "sacrificial lamb" for the republicians.  No republician in their right mind should want to run for President in 2008.
I was one of those that said if my canidate wasn't the nominee I would vote for McCain.....but then I started to think what I would get if the republicans were in the house another 4 years.  For me, it just wasn't worth it and I hope that each person would step back for a moment and think about it honestly.  Please compare the two policies see which would work for you.  Trust me it's worth it!! (this is a prime example)

VOTE with your head and not your heart!!!
Get em Barack.  Speak the truth!!  
Fran, Jerry, please.  Stop with the name calling and discuss the issues.  First, unless you are in the top 3% of the nation's income bracket your taxes will not increase under Obama.  Second, the cost of oil has increased five fold since the Bush/Cheney/McCain Administration came to town.  To now blame Democrats for the state of the economy ignores reality.  
http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm?source=mccainrevealed

Here is a neatly packaged summary of McCain's economic ideology. Check it out all you Republicans!
I know, I know, You have to read and that isn't your strong point. God knows your president can't do it.
What Obama knows about the economy, or anything else for that matter, wouldn't fill a thimble. For every question, Obama has one, and only one answer. Raise taxes!
I'm with Jerry in corpus that these liberals are ruining the nation with taxing and spending and ignoring winning our wars.  John McCain a real navy man can win the wars and will be a president for real Americans, not the muslim world.  Hilrey women are coming to his side because of the lying democrat liberals.
The Democrats' Budget Would Raise Taxes On Individuals Earning As Little As $31,850. "Under both Democratic plans, tax rates would increase by 3 percentage points for each of the 25 percent, 28 percent and 33 percent brackets. At present, the 25 percent bracket begins at $31,850 for individuals and $63,700 for married couples. The 35 percent bracket on incomes over $349,700 would jump to 39.6 percent." (Andrew Taylor, "Presidential Hopefuls To Vote On Budget," The Associated Press, 3/13/08)

So Senator Obama:

You voted for higher taxes when you voted for the plan I cut and paste above.....

Why are Liberals out to destroy the middle class in America?
IS THAT THE BEST THE MCBUSH CAMP HAS?  OBAMA HAS A MAN ON HIS SELECTION TEAM WHO PURCHASED TWO HOMES THROUGH COUNTRY WIDE -- MCBUSH HAD A TEAM OF LOBBYISTS AND SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, SOME ATTACHED TO MORTGAGE LENDERS, AND IT WAS OKAY?

MCBUSH CAMP CLAIMS "Obama voted for an energy bill that was a boon to the oil industry."  THEY NEED TO REVISIT THAT BILL AND THEY WILL SEE THAT THEY ARE WRONG AGAIN!!!

THE MEMORY LAPSES IN THE MCBUSH CAMP IS SPREADING -- DOUBLE TALK AND LIES!  WHAT A GROUP!!

THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!!!
I see Republicans are out en masse with their typical strategy of conflate, confuse and confound.
Obama proposes to add $50 millon more on the national credit card? Is this the Change he keeps talking about? I Hope not.
Connect the ducts folks...Iraq has been a drain on our resources. We cannot afford another 4 more years of George Bush. It is time to turn the page on McBush and McSame
I am socially liberable, fiscally conservative.  I guess you could call me a Libertarian. I would vote Republican in the past if the social cons hadn't taken over the party and made it all about J.C.  I hate big government. I am a hard-working, educated white man.  And yet I could not be more proud to be voting for Obama.  Sure he is most likely going to raise my taxes, but what is at stake this election is far more important than taxes, it is about who we choose to define ourselves as Americans.  I for one want to be viewed as considerate, educated, even-tempered, humble, compassionate, and not self-serving.  I do not want to be viewed as a racist cowboy who is proud of his ignorance.  I vote for Obama because he represents a more positive image, one that lifts all people up by their bootstraps, not just the privileged few, even though I could be considered one of the privileged few.  McCain is the old guard.  He does not realize that a global economy cannot thrive if only certain people on the globe get the spoils.  Mexicans would not be pouring over our borders if the economy in Mexico weren't even suckier than ours.  What we REALLY have to worry about is if the Mexicans STOP pouring over the border...can you imagine a young Mexican man, ready & eager to make a good living, looks at the U.S economy, then the Mexican economy, and says to himself "nah I think I'd rather stay in Mexico."?  THAT would be worrisome!  I voted for Bill Clinton both times, not because I liked him but because I hated his opponents.  I voted for Al Gore, not because I liked him but because I hated his opponent.  I voted for John Kerry, not because I liked him but because I hated his opponent.  Now, for the first time since I can remember, I am voting for somebody BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB, as opposed to "the lesser of two evils."  All of this talk about how Obama can't win the white vote is ridiculous. Anyone who has actually investigated Obama's past will know that he owes the birth of his political career to the "white vote", because for the first four years of his political life, he couldn't get the "black vote" no matter how hard he tried, yet quickly rose through the state senate all the way to the U.S. Senate in just four years!!!  This was all due to the fact that he proved he could win the "white vote."  The reason why he is an even more viable candidate today is because he has proven he can win the "black vote" too.  This is because his supporters are evolved enough to know that words & actions are more important than race.  A man with an even temper instead of our current cowboy or McCain, the cowboy-in-waiting.  A man who listens to what his opposition has to say instead of our current leader's habit of holding his breath until hopefully the problem goes away (Israel/Palestine, anyone?).  A man wno encourages expert opinion, instead of our current leader who seems almost proud of his ignorance and shows outright disdain for expert opinion (joking that he only read one book while at Yale, for instance).  Obama is the one candidate who remembers that the President is a SERVANT of the electorate first & foremost, not a dictator.  His actions will be in concert with majority opinion, not in spite of it, as is the case with our current "leader". I laugh at those who say Obama is unelectable in the GE.  He continually surprises people at every junction of his career with just how electable he is.  My own extended family has never broken ranks with the Republican party before, but they are smart enough people to know who the right man for the job is, and we are all 100% Obama.  From my parents in California to my aunts & uncles & cousins in Iowa, Michigan & Colorado. Bring literacy back to the White House!  GObama!
If Obama gets all his loony economic plans past, the only change he will give us will be the change in our pockets.
Why is no one questioning McCain on why he is paying Phil Gram to give him economic advice? This is the same Phill Gram who is partly responsible for the mortgage crisis!
Liberalism is a disease.....

jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Monday, June 09, 2008 3:33 PM)

You want to talk about diseases? How many STDs have your Republican Congressmen spread around the last 8 years?
Dem in CA: "I was one of those that said if my canidate wasn't the nominee I would vote for McCain.....but then I started to think what I would get if the republicans were in the house another 4 years."

When the Democrats implement their "Green Plan" to "Save the Environment", what do you think you'll get? I mean, other then $15/gal gas?
The response from the McCain camp...."I know you are but what am I???"

C'mon repubs - you've gotta do better than that!  How about a plan to get us out of the mess your lock-step party has gotten us into.
McCain 08: "even less, even later"
I would like to know why people are so afraid of Barack.  Is it because he will be successful in changing this country and the world for the better.

Will it effort an image that some people would be ashamed of?  How can people be so against something that will work for all Americans and try to support something that hasn't.

Barack has a plan ..I don't care if he's black, blue, green,....I would have voted for Hillary if she had won....I wouldn't care if she was white, black, blue or a woman... As long as they have a plan that will turn this country around and place it in the direction that it should go.  I am all for it.

People like Fran Harris, Ft. Myers FL , I mean - what is your problem with Barack Obama...Explain to us plain folk what Bush/Cheney has done for you and what you think McCain can do for America.  

Stop hating and talk about your favorite and what they have to offer..if you can't then you are just a bigot that don't want a man of color in the white house.  AND if that is the case - then be big enough to say it


Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Our economy is in the toilet.  Thanks to the neglect it has received the last two Bush terms.  It would be so terribly sad to let racism get in the way of having this brilliant man as our next President.  Obama is for everyone.  His speech today was full of ideas and plans to get America moving in the right direction.  To all those bigots out there, put aside your hatred, it doesn't accomplish anything and it will consume you. People are people.  Put America first.
Obama '08!!!!!!
The tax and spend argument is funny to me. I think it will be better than the "reduce tax and spend into deficit hell" that happened under the Bush admin.

Check out the conservative case for Barack Obama - http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_03_24/article.html
Liberalism is a disease.....
                 jerry/corpus christi texas
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Yeah and so is spending BILLIONS of dollars (borrowed from China no less) for a war that shouldn't have been waged in the first place that has killed over 4,000 young Americans. Maybe THAT'S what you're looking for, but the rest of us will give Obama a chance to straighten out the mess Bush got us into.
From Factcheck.org, McSame's economic proposals:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_budget_according_to_mccain_part_i.html
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_budget_according_to_mccain_part_ii.html
McSame doesn't have a clue about the economy.
Jerry/Corpus Cristi, and Fran/Fla, you ought to be ashamed of deliberately spreading such misinformation, in light of your candidate McCain pandering with his wealthy individual and corporation tax cuts, with no conceivable way of paying for it.
This election is about real issues, not neo con hysteria.
What you dismiss as populist bs Fran, doesn't match with the fact that Exxon made a $40 billion profit in the first quarter of this year, the most profit ever in the history of American Corporations. The fact is that they are not using their profits to lessen the prices by increasing refining capacity. In fact all oil discovered here, and elsewhere is sold on the world market. The US exports 15% of the oil that is recovered here, mostly to China and Japan. So much for caring about the US consumer.
The ONLY reason that there is so much support among neo cons for McCain is because he won't interrupt the gravy train that you fat cats have been experiencing over the last 7 years.
There are too many hard working God fearing law abiding Americans being hosed by Bush/Cheney/McCain for their own greedy pockets. It ends in November.
we are not sick and tired of talking about real things like economy. Mr. Burr should know, these are the issues that we want to know. Senator Obama, arguing that Senator McCain is just as Bush's way of doing things. We don't want same old selfish policies as Bush's thank you.
Jerry,

You offer no substantive facts for your claims that Obama will raise taxes. He said he will give a 1,000 tax break to people making 150,000, or less. He's been saying that since the NC, and Idiana primaries. Your candidate offered us a measly, (I'll be generous), 33.00 gas tax holiday this summer. By the way, he's done zilch to bring into fruition.

I would favor a raise in my taxes, if it means we will stop selling America off in bits, and pieces to China, or any other nation.

We are going to have to sacrifice, just like American's did during WWII.

We have become a whinny, selfish people.

You repubs don't have a problem with our brave military dying in Iraq because Bush, and Cheny lied to us. How can you talk of leaving Iraq with honor? We did'nt go their with honor.

Others can die for your ideals, but you're not patriotic enough to back this nation's healing with  so much as a nickel more out of your pocket.  
Everyone knew this and so did the Republicans; they were a part of the deception.  It was all about controlling the oil and the market.  Designed by Bush/Cheney/Rove and the neo-cons...that's why they want to continue with McCain.  They know this mess and their thievery of the American people will catch up when the Democrats take over the .senate, congress and Presidency.  

Not only do we need to fix the mess and set -laws, guidelines and rules to stop this fascist style of government we need to bring these criminals to justices - to redeem the 10 of thousands of lives affected in the worst way because of the GOP.

They will not take credit for the mess they cause, they will continue to blame, blame, blame...and people like Cheney won't even care.  Remember the comment he made a few months ago.  When asked how he felt about what the American people think about this war - his answer was something like - SO.  Remember when they asked about the sacrifice the Soldiers made because of a war that maybe shouldn't have been waged - all he said was - They volunteered.  These people don't care about U.S. they just want the money they can steal from U.S. they will lie, steal, cheat, kill, use anything so they can control the market and fill their pockets.

We can't let them get away with this...we just can't

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
The Republicans on this board sound desperate. Guys it's not too late. You can still vote for Obama in the GE.

GW Bush is the "No Tax & Spend" president. You can no longer pin the dems with the "Tax & Spend" moniker. Obama will us PayGo, so he only spends what the budget will allow.

Can anyone say landslide?
Hooray for Democrat in CA!!!
Vote for Obama if you want your state ruined like Michigan. Ain't that something. Liberals ruin a state then only give the people half a vote.
Perhaps John "Keating Five" McCain will choose to rely on comfortable economic methods: stealing money from retirees who invest in a bank owned by crooked friends.
I like the republicans who's knee jerk response is always to cut taxes and talk about nebulous spending cuts that never happen...the republiscum had years of abosolute control to mess things up...they cut taxes and lied and said the economy would get better...it has not...unless you were a bushie your income relative to costs has decreased under the bush/mccain regime
TO: JERRY/CORPUS CHRISTI TX
FRAN HARRIS/FT MEYERS FL
MARTA WILSON, PLANO TX
LIBBY LOVERS

Please go to website www.factcheck.org before you start criticizing Obama's economy plan. Check out McCain's plan before you write your messages. Research and learn the real facts "my friend"!
Obama is correct when he says Bush and the Republicans have been the most fiscally irresponsible ever.

There's been a steady increase in national debt since World War II - mostly regardless of which party controlled the White House or Congress. This steady increase has been bad enough, but consider there's been two primary jumps in the rate of debt growth.

The first - a baby jump - occurred in the 1980s under Reagan. The second - daddy jump - occurred these last seven years under Bush (and six of those years with Republicans controlling Congress.

Under Bush, the national debt jumped from $5 trillion to what will probably be more than $9 trillion in eight years. This is almost a doubling of the debt - meaning that Bush and company will have accumulated nearly as much public debt as the nation did in the previous 50 years.

Republicans seem to be the exact opposite of fiscally responsible.
McCain's economic plan would include $1.2 billion in tax breaks for Exxon? Yikes! That IS Bush third term thinking.


Amy B Portland, ME (Sent Monday, June 09, 2008 3:38 PM)


So what do you Democrats want to do? Pay more at the pump, or find more domestic oil to offset our middle east oil requirements? It sure seems like it's the former.


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