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Obama/McCain: All under the bus

Posted: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:25 AM by Domenico Montanaro

On McCain criticizing now the choice of Eric Holder on his veep search committee, the Boston Globe writes, “At this rate, only Caroline Kennedy will be safe.” McCain on Holder: "Mr. Holder recommended a pardon for Mr. Rich, and all of those things should be taken into consideration by the media and the American people. Especially when you are entrusting these individuals with one of the most important decisions that a presidential candidate can make before he’s elected, and that is who his running mate is." 
 
Speaking of Caroline Kennedy… AP profiles the third member of Obama’s veep team. “As part of Barack Obama's vice presidential search team, Kennedy must function with the utmost secrecy in what is sure to be one of the most closely watched endeavors of this year's presidential campaign. The daughter of President Kennedy has sought and treasured privacy since her father's assassination in 1963.” 
 

VIDEO: Radio talk show host Rachel Maddow talks about how lobbyist connections forced the resignation of Jim Johnson from Barack Obama's V.P. search committee and Arthur Culvahouse, the head of John McCain's V.P. search committee whi actually is a lobbyist.

“…Republican activists scored the bigger win this week when they forced a top Obama adviser to step down,” AP writes. “They are vowing to use it as a blueprint to hammer Obama on other issues.... Their carpet bombing cleared the way for McCain to jump in Thursday, when reporters in Boston asked him about Johnson and Holder. …McCain's surrogates may have had the better week because of Johnson's resignation. But Obama's friends are bringing new firepower to his hometown of Chicago, where his campaign is headquartered. The Democratic National Committee said Thursday its political and field operations are relocating there, making it easier to coordinate the effort against McCain.” 
 
Just who helps the middle class? “The presumptive Democratic nominee will go in armed with a study that suggests that his proposals would give families making between about $38,000 and $66,000 a year an average tax cut of $1,042 -- three times more than the $319 in savings they would get from the tax cut plans of Republican John McCain.
 
“The savings in 2009 would be closer for families making between $66,000 and $112,000 a year -- $1,290 under Obama's plan and $1,009 under McCain, according to the Tax Policy Center , a nonpartisan research initiative of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution in Washington. The biggest gap would be for the 0.1 percent of taxpayers with incomes of more than $2.9 million a year. They would pay $270,000 less under McCain, but pay $702,000 more under Obama. 
 
The McCain campaign points out that in the same study, Obama’s tax proposal -- with all things considered -- would increase taxes on seniors on average by about 2%, even those “with incomes less than $50,000, his plan would raise taxes for almost 10 million senior households. …seniors in the bottom two quintiles of the income distribution would see an average tax cut of almost 1.0 percent of income, while those in the top quintile would experience an average tax increase equal to 3.8 percent of income. Taxes would increase by an average 9.3 percent of income for the 390,000 seniors in the top 1 percent. 
 
“Retirees would generally benefit from few of Obama’s new tax credit proposals such as the Making Work Pay credit and the American Opportunity tax credit for education or from his expansions to the EITC or the child and dependent care credit. Instead, increases in the tax rates on capital gains and dividends would typically hurt them. In addition, because more of their income comes from capital, higher-income seniors would bear much of the burden of Obama’s corporate tax increases." 
 
NYT covers the analysis of Obama's tax plan that seems to indicate that McCain's criticisms of it are off. "Economists of various ideological persuasions, however, view Mr. McCain’s assessment as inaccurate or exaggerated. Some question whether Mr. Obama’s tax plan can even be characterized as an increase. Some also argue that contrary to Mr. McCain’s assertions, the Democrat’s proposals, if enacted, would actually reduce taxes for the middle class -- the voters both candidates see as the key to victory.
 
“In a study of the candidates’ plans made public Wednesday, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that in contrast to Mr. McCain, “Senator Obama offers much larger tax breaks to low- and middle-income taxpayers and would increase taxes on high-income taxpayers.” The study said, “The largest tax cuts, as a share of income, would go to those at the bottom of the income distribution,” whereas “Senator McCain’s tax cuts would primarily benefit those with very high incomes.”
 
“Other groups that focus on tax and economic policy are preparing similar analyses, but say they regard the Tax Policy Center’s assessment as highly reliable, based on its work in the past. The study did question some of Mr. Obama’s calculations, noting, for example, that “both candidates may be overoptimistic in their revenue targets for closing tax loopholes, Obama probably more than McCain.”  
 
The RNC, meanwhile, puts up a Web video hitting Obama on his tax stance, splicing together several of his statements -- with carnival music playing in the background -- to show he’s “confused about his own tax plan.” Note that Obama camp had used the word “confused” several times on a conference call attacking McCain on his foreign policy. 
 
The NY Post: "Mac says Dems up to 'old' tricks." "McCain yesterday suggested that former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry and other Barack Obama supporters are engaging in ageism by calling him 'confused' and 'out of touch' in a dispute over Iraq. When asked whether Kerry and other Obama surrogates were trying to paint him as too old to be president, McCain, 71, said they were. 'I'm obviously disappointed in a comment like that,' he said in Boston."
 
When asked about using the word “confused,” Kerry said it wasn’t about age, that there are senators older than McCain who don't make the same mistakes on foreign policy. 
 
“In a campaign dominated by the economy and the Iraq War, the Supreme Court's 5-4 ruling Thursday on detainees at Guantanamo marks a forceful reminder that John McCain promises one course and Barack Obama pledges another in picking future justices.” 
 
The world primary: “Among those tracking the American election, greater numbers in 20 countries expressed more confidence in Obama, the likely Democratic nominee, than John McCain, the Republican candidate, to handle world affairs properly. The two contenders were tied in the U.S., Jordan and Pakistan. Obama's edge was largest in Western Europe, Australia, Japan, Tanzania and Indonesia, where he lived for a time as a child.”

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McCain on Holder: "Mr. Holder recommended a pardon for Mr. Rich, and all of those things should be taken into consideration by the media and the American people. Especially when you are entrusting these individuals with one of the most important decisions that a presidential candidate can make BEFORE HE'S ELECTED, and that is who his running mate is."

Sounds like Sen. McCain is pretty sure Sen. Obama is going to be elected, too!
So ironic that the repugnant ones are still whining about the Rich pardon when they're the ones who always protect the white collar criminals.  That pardon pales in comparison to the Libby pardon, where the tyrant pardoned one of his flunkies for criminal wrongdoing.

Talking about being up to old tricks, we're hearing nothing but that same old tired line about cutting taxes from the repugnant ones.  Barack Obama will cut taxes for those who really need it and deserve it while "Debt Lover" McCain only wants the big tax cuts for the rich and greedy who don't need them or deserve them.

Go Obama 08/12!
This Eric Holder thing is NOTHING compared to Phil Gramm and Charlie Black. Why doesn't the Obama camp jump all over this? I don't get it.
Wonder what it will take to throw the group think media under the bus? You guys have totally abandoned "news" for opinion driven (and ratings driven)"narratives". America deserves better.

America is moving past the old way and on to the better way - and that includes no longer getting our "news" from political hacks and/or unemployed  politicians masqerading as "journalists".

P.S. Is anyone going to ask John McCain how he is going to pay for our indefinite stay in Iraq while cutting taxes? Or do his injuries as a POW mean that we just have to trust him? Maybe I can get into one of the pre-rigged "town hall meetings" to ask  . . .
It's those pesky economists again.  I wish they'd just stay out of it.

Jedreport: John McCain can't keep his story straight about George Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm9rLDU-SiE&eurl
Thems that play must pay...
Sounds like fairness is finally putting its' toll on those that make more...The Warren Buffet Factor..
To many people are poor but they have the power of the vote...What a country...
It the screwers against the screwed...
Bush-onomics is going down...
Ok.. Now.. How many American make over $2.9 million a year!  If they did.. What's an extra 100K.

Most American probably makes between $37,5000 - $82,000 per year.  Obama's tax cuts will help those people-- buy food, shelter,etc...  McClain's tax package will mostly help the rich.  I am not against the rich, but middle-class and poor people are struggling to survive in this market.  It's time for Change!!!!!


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Can someone from the MSM challenge McCain on how he is going to continue to fund the war in Iraq, give massive tax cuts to the wealthy individuals and corporations, and help the economy? Forget the obscure BS; EVERY economics expert has said it cannot be done. Yet this "pseudo war hero" (North Vietnamese collaborator) gets a free pass? He can't even have one of his vaunted "Town Hall Meetings" without stacking the deck in his favor with supporters. He finished 894 out of 899 in his academy class, so he is not very smart. His promotion of a temporary gas tax rebate proves he known nothing; worse still is the fact that he lacks the innate mental capacity to learn.
Tell me MSM: why are you not pointing out the fallacies of his economic plan?
Are you falling down on the job again, like you did in the run up to Iraq?
The country cannot afford another Bush/McCain/Cheney term.
I for one would really like to see the election go back to what it was when Obama started: about issues that really matter to the American public and what the next administration's goals and aspirations are.  

Do I care about vetter's ties to this or that?  NO!  Do I care about a gas tax holiday?  NO!  Do I care about who is too young or too old to be President? NO!  Do I care about every minor gaffe? NO!

I care about how we as a country are going to get out of the economic hole we are in.

I care about how quickly we can end the money pit and killing fields that comprise the war in Iraq.

I care about finding alternative sources of energy so that the terrorist-supporting governments in the middle east get out of my wallet and back to fighting each-other.

I care about making sure that my child grows up in a strong and healthy country and has the opportunities that my parents did which were slowly taken away during the last two administrations.

How about getting back to the real issues?  I'm starting to get disgusted with the whole process (though I will still vote for Obama regardless.)
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
Both of these guys have thrown the American worker under the bus by favoring the export of our manufacturing base to Communist China!
We all know those people making $2.9 million a year have accountants who have perfected the use of tax shelters, etc. There is no way the government will collect the whole $702,000 from them. And you know, those same accountants will double the $270,000 McCain saves them. All while their assets are protected by the sons and daughters of the working class.
Not only was Holder the point man on the Rich pardon, but he also was involved in the Puerto Rican Terroist Pardons that happened under the Clinton Administration-the ones that several folks on this site mentioned during the Primary season when they bashed Hillary.
Typical Hypocritical Democrud response-all is forgiven if you just worship at the shrine of Obama.
So I guess McCain is putting me under the bus since I am one of the thousands of folks that make less than $30,000.00 per year, and I must pay for the folks that make over $200000.00 per year so they can get richer while I have a hard time paying for gas and groceries!

Obama 08
"McCain Supporter Fiorina Deserves The Same Scrutiny As Obama Veep Vetter"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/11/mccain-supporter-fiorina_n_106561.html
David Fiderer: How The Wall Street Journal Fabricated a Scandal to Impugn an Obama Supporter, James Johnson

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-fiderer/how-the-wall-street-journ_b_106600.html
Mr. Holder recommended a pardon for Mr. Rich, and all of those things should be taken into consideration by the media and the American people. Especially when you are entrusting these individuals with one of the most important decisions that a presidential candidate can make before he’s elected, and that is who his running mate is."
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-McCain

Oh come on John!!

I can hear him now. Speaking in that fake, soft, sing songy tone of his that my husband uses to read to our 18 month old graddaughter.  

You hope with the unholiest of desire, that Obama places the worst possible choice for Veep on the dem ticket with him!

McCain is being disingenuous.
As I recall, as Obama was contesting with Clinton for the nomination I read several comments on how sleezy the Clintons were and the example of Rich's pardon was cited as evidence of how corrupt the Clinton administration was.....

Well.....where are those Obama supporters now?  Where is the outrage over your candidate appointing (oh, accepting as a volunteer) the very guy that recommended the pardon.

Frankly, I don't know if the pardon was appropriate or not and I have nothing against Eric Holder.  I do have a problem with so many in the New and improved Democratic Party that talk out of both sides of their mouths....

As for Caroline Kennedy....  I'm sure she is a fine person, but she isn't devine.  Back in the dark ages when Democrats were about the little guy and not about advancing intellectual liberal theory the people working behind the scenes were the guys in the smoke filled rooms.  In fact, the Kennedy family were the masters of that sort of politics.  On observation it would seem that Obama doesn't want to get rid of the smoke filled rooms, he just wants to bring in a few more mirrors to go with the decor.  
Leave it to the Straight Talk Express to be busted lying again.
TAX THE RICH!!!
About the tax plan summation:

At the risk of sounding simplistic in the summation, aren't you saying:

Obama will raise taxes and McCain will lower taxes?

That's what I just read. Maybe somebody whould help me out here.

McCain '08.. Cutting taxes for everybody!
McCain should quit while he's ahead or he'll have nobody left in his dirty campaign, including himself. Ofcourse - All these Repukes are dirty, Bush, and all the Presidents men! History will not be kind to them, we can only hope they will be held accountable, some way, some day!
Obama Rocks!
We Need Obamonomics!!!

Obama'08
Whenever I see the words "under the bus" I think of how obama threw Granny under the bus in defence of his "spiritual advisor" Rev Wright! She probably deserved it though, she is a "typical white woman" NICE
I have to admit the media has really done a number on this story!!!  First you slam Obama for standing up for Johnson, then when Johnson resigns because he didn't want to be a distraction you slam Obama for "throwing him under the bus".  Wow!  With all the real news going on every day why do you guys still find the need to scandalize nonsense?!?!?!  
New Indi (Sent Friday, June 13, 2008 10:18 AM)

As I undertstand it, Holder was not directly responsible for that.  He was part of a team, and Bill (obviously) had the final say.

I could be way off, but I think Holder was doing his job, and what was asked of him.  He didn't necessarily support the pardon.  Has he ever said that he did?

Sorry, folks.  You have GOT to have some people that are "in the know" to do this kind of work.  They are not getting any kickbacks - unless Holder pulls a Cheney.  Also - they aren't getting paid to do this.

I don't think Caroline is a part of the politics that you reference.  She, nor her late brother, ever struck me as being part of that culture.
As I recall, as Obama was contesting with Clinton for the nomination I read several comments on how sleezy the Clintons were and the example of Rich's pardon was cited as evidence of how corrupt the Clinton administration was.....

Well.....where are those Obama supporters now?  Where is the outrage over your candidate appointing (oh, accepting as a volunteer) the very guy that recommended the pardon.

Frankly, I don't know if the pardon was appropriate or not and I have nothing against Eric Holder.  I do have a problem with so many in the New and improved Democratic Party that talk out of both sides of their mouths....

As for Caroline Kennedy....  I'm sure she is a fine person, but she isn't devine.  Back in the dark ages when Democrats were about the little guy and not about advancing intellectual liberal theory the people working behind the scenes were the guys in the smoke filled rooms.  In fact, the Kennedy family were the masters of that sort of politics.  On observation it would seem that Obama doesn't want to get rid of the smoke filled rooms, he just wants to bring in a few more mirrors to go with the decor.  
New Indi (Sent Friday, June 13, 2008 10:18 AM)


Oh my, someone here that isn't "inspired" by obama! Welcome to the club.
All the reports from the MSM I heard and read stated that Mr. Johnson took himself off this committee because he didn't want any problems interfering with the selection process. How did we get from he stepped down own his own to his being "thrown under the bus"?
Come on people surely we are brighter than to just believe the under the bus theory. MSM says and prints what will make a BIG headline thus increasing their profits. We KNOW we have to actually read or listen to the whole story to get to the truth.
I find it very interesting that the Obama supporters are defending Holder and they're saying that this is a non-issue.  That's funny considering back in January and February Obama's supporters made a BIG deal out of the Marc Rich pardon when they were using it to attack Hillary Clinton.
But it was CLINTON who pardoned Rich. So why is he not attacking the Clintons?? he is praising Hill because he wants her votes.
I mean REALLY McSHAME. You are so BAD.
“The savings in 2009 would be closer for families making between $66,000 and $112,000 a year -- $1,290 under Obama's plan and $1,009 under McCain, according to the Tax Policy Center , a nonpartisan research initiative of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution in Washington. The biggest gap would be for the 0.1 percent of taxpayers with incomes of more than $2.9 million a year. They would pay $270,000 less under McCain, but pay $702,000 more under Obama."

 This is the ONLY reason I would vote for McCain. To  hold onto more of my $2.9 million dollars a year. Everyone else should vote for Obama if you want a tax break.


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