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McCain challenges Obama on town halls

Posted: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:58 AM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC’s Bethany Thomas, Domenico Montanaro and NBC/NJ’s Carrie Dann
The McCain campaign announced that it has accepted invitations from the Reagan and LBJ libraries to hold town halls there in July, set a date for its next town hall (June 19 in Minnesota) and challenged the Obama campaign anew to joint them.

McCain also spoke of the invitations at his town hall in Southern New Jersey.

VIDEO: Sen. John McCain tells a New Jersey audience that he has accepted invitations from the Ronald Reagan and Lyndon B. Johnson presidential libraries to hold joint town hall meetings, and that he hopes his opponent will do the same.

“As Luci Baines Johnson said in her invitation, these meetings offer an opportunity to 'deliberate the great issues of our time,'” A McCain release stated, in part. “The American people deserve a great debate about the future of our country, and we hope that Barack Obama will join us for these important events at these historic venues."

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis wrote a letter to Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, thanking him for “responding to our proposal,” but adds, “…We have proposed at least ten joint town hall meetings once a week until the week before the Democratic Convention begins. As we understand your counter-proposal, you have proposed only one town hall meeting before the Democratic Convention. …

“We will hold time on our schedule for joint town halls every Thursday night until the Democratic convention. I hope Senator Obama would reconsider his position and agree to join Senator McCain as early as next week.”

And perhaps in response to how yesterday’s town hall was received (or just a revelation into the Obama-McCain negotiations on these town halls): “However, at this moment, we fear that our negotiations over joint town hall meetings are turning into a debate about process. That is exactly what we have always hoped to avoid, and why we proposed a town hall format that would render many of these process issues moot. As Senator Obama has said, he is prepared to meet "anywhere, anytime" for a town hall.

Wonder if McCain camp or the RNC will start another Obama Watch Countdown -- with the number of days, hours, minutes since McCain proposed town halls and Obama has yet to agree...

Full letter to Obama campaign:

Dear Mr. Plouffe,

Thank you for responding to our proposal. Just to reiterate, we have proposed at least ten joint town hall meetings once a week until the week before the Democratic Convention begins. As we understand your counter-proposal, you have proposed only one town hall meeting before the Democratic Convention.

In keeping with our original proposal, we are planning a joint town hall meeting in Minnesota next Thursday evening (June 19, 2008). We will hold time on our schedule for joint town halls every Thursday night until the Democratic convention. I hope Senator Obama would reconsider his position and agree to join Senator McCain as early as next week.

We have also today accepted the invitation from Mrs. Ronald Reagan, Lynda Johnson Robb and Luci Baines Johnson to attend town hall meetings in July at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library. As Mrs. Johnson said, these town halls will truly be an opportunity to "deliberate the great issues of our time." Their sponsorship certainly meets our standards for a positive and productive opportunity for voters to interact with the candidates. I hope you will agree.

However, at this moment, we fear that our negotiations over joint town hall meetings are turning into a debate about process. That is exactly what we have always hoped to avoid, and why we proposed a town hall format that would render many of these process issues moot. As Senator Obama has said, he is prepared to meet "anywhere, anytime" for a town hall.

We remain committed to this idea because joint town hall meetings offer the best format for presenting both candidates' visions for our country's future in a substantive way. We have a chance to change the way presidential elections are run and elevate the political dialogue. Americans deserve this kind of opportunity, and we hope that Senator Obama will join us at town hall meetings throughout the summer months.

Sincerely,

Rick Davis

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It is always good to see that America has moved past Racism....

http://www.politivine.com/2008/06/13/racism-at-its-finest-the-sock-obama-toy/

Wow, just wow.
Unless Obama is allowed to use a tele-a-prompter, he's not going to show up. Hillary, and others, just buried Obama in debates. He's just not that quick on his feet and is slow to reacted in a dynamic situation. Obama just has a few catch phrases and a bunch of jingoism he depends on. Obama is all style and presentation, and no substance.
Senator McCain today flip-flopped again, and this time it is about Guantanamo and the Court's ruling yesterday (which Court ruling Senator McCain's own words show he would have welcomed).  In light of Senator McCain's ability to turn our Constitutional liberties off in his own mind, I have difficulty caring about scheduled town halls.  Just my own opinion.
"Obama campaign manager Rick Davis wrote a letter to Obama campaign manager David Plouffe".... One of them's gotta be McCain's campaign manager
obama reminds me of that piss-ant we all went to school with who would walk around talking about how tough and smart he was and then run when asked to repeat his words face-to-face. Your guy is dead in the water!
Bring it on! Obama will destroy McInsane big time on this. McInsane held his microphone upside down the other day trying to speak into it. The spins & lies & deceptions will not work anymore. The American people have caught on & change is coming big time!

Obams for POTUS !
Maybe if McCain didn't fill these town halls with his supporters and instead of democrats, republicans and independents like he town hall was advertised last night he would have some ground to stand on
Who wants to hear this old coot EVERY Thursday evening from now until Convention? Not me! I've heard plenty from them for the past 7 1/2 years!
One Town Hall and a variety of other formats.  How does one get tickets?  By registering as a McCain Loyalist?  The Presidential Libraries are interesting; but who is really in charge?  McCain by virtue of being older, seems to think that he gets to set the agenda, determine the date and essentially run the show.  As the polls have shown, he isn't even the front runner - so why does he assume Obama shouldn't get to determine the rules of engagement?

The whole thing seems like nonsense.  McCain should be a little more 'conservative' on this.  The old addage, "be careful what you wish for - you just might get it."

I think the contrast between articulation and more McBushism's will be a very stark one.
If I were John McSame, I would NOT be pushing for a venue where the stark differences will show so much. He will get his town  hall meetings- but not on his terms...there is respect lacking towards Senator Obama and it shows badly. Obama will eat him up at these meetings!
Considering the audience make up of last night's town hall meeting, I would be hesitant (if I were involved in the negotiations)to participate in a set up.  Evidently, the meeting last night was loaded with McCain supporters.  Why should they pick the people who will be in the audience.  If these are true town hall meetings, it should be first come, first served.
Last night town hall on fox news was ridiculous. stop the love fest with McCain and discuss his policy. I forgot he does not have one that is the reason why the questions from yesturday's town hall was about how McCain is so great. If he is so great, then why does he not debate the issues. His comments on the gas tax holiday is good because people can buy school books for their children in the fall. the gas tax will save an average family $27-$30 dollars. McCain welcome to he 21st century in which $30 will not buy you a book when most textbooks are over $50 and as high as $130. get real. does he even know what goes on in the country? he is so out of touch it is ridiculous.
Funny, they don't have the guts to invite Nader to the town hall meetings.

McCain is just playing politics as usual. He is only willing to debate Obama and they are both scared to death to debate Nader, Barr etc..

As Mrs. Johnson said, these town halls will truly be an opportunity to "deliberate the great issues of our time."

lol, my arse. not without Nader.
Carrie - does anyone check your postings for accuracy? Who do Davis and Plouffe work for again?

To paraphrase fake President Jed Bartlett, McCain's post-partisanship would be a lot more interesting to me if it weren't quite so covered in crap.
I also think it is interesting that the McCain camp feels they can dictate the schedule of the Obama campaign.  Sorry, you can't -- isnt' that too bad.
I think Barack Obama has better things to do than have a town hall meeting with McCain prior to the Democratic convention.
I have no desire to watch an ol' boring townhall.  Do your own thing-McCain.  YOU will get a true debate closer to election time.  I do not watch Jerry Springer,which is why I don't watch your townhalls! I would be very careful of what I wished for in that it could very well blow up in your face McCain.  You know that Senator Obama is a mannerly man, so you just want to act rude to him and watch him get into trouble by not "respecting his elders".

I vote NO to McCain and YES to Senator Obama!
I don't think that there needs to be 10 town-hall meetings between the two candidates. It reminds me of Clinton wanting to debate Obama every week - unnecessary. After reading about how Fox News even critized McCain about bringing in "invited guests and supporters" instead of Democrats, Independents and Republicans", it appears that McCain is trying to stack the deck against Obama.
MSNBC, you are becoming a carbon copy of FoxNews lately.... everything on this site was on fox yesterday. It seems like you're just continuing the media hugging of McCain which is actually pathetic considering it's this same kind of reporting that sold us the war.

Now, while at this town hall story. It would be fair to mention that the McCain people "stacked" the town hall yesterday with his staunch supporters. So, why should Obama accept these nonsense meetings I may ask? Is this journalism?
People should be random NOT staged...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/12/mccain-stacks-fox-news-to_n_106881.html
Why are so many of opposed to having a town-hall meeting? Afraid your guy can't speak off-script? The fact that the offer of a meeting with McCain makes your knees shake is telling. Hillary would go!
NO! When you get moderators like Stephenopoulos who are not fair. It just might be a set-up. Pick your battlefield, when confronted with abject stupidity, let them self destruct, when you have the direct advantage, herass and annoy. Magoo is a hothead that can be made to blow-up. Find his hot-buttons and press them often, but never play his game. He is vulnerable.
Sen Obama shouldnt give McCain any thought on this issue. Obama need to stay on message without the distraction known as McCain. Im really surprised that McCain people are pushing this idea.  Have they not realized that he will be standing next to a guy a quarter century younger than he.  That cant be good!!!
Town Hall meetings are McCains ONLY strong point...and it isnt that strong to begin with.  He is boring to watch and comes across as creepy.  His media handlers are really doing a poor job.

That being said, why should he get to set the pace of the election.  To heck with McCain.  Smells more like a set up (See hillary).  He strikes me as some old coot assuming he is in charge because is is older, ordering the kids around the house.

Oh, and Bobbi...hush.
Oh gee wiz......
How impartial is an event when it is set up by one campaign, with the place of the town hall meeting in the libraries of the Republican parties??  Good one!!!!  Will it be as impartial as the SHAM held last night, with only McCain supporters being there, sponsored by FOX??  That is not a town meeting, that is a one sided supporter PARTISAN RALLY.
If McCain and his peeps are setting everything up ahead of time, place, time, how likely do you think it will be non partison?
In case McCain hasn't noticed, Obama is a little busy, being the Dem. primary has just ended.  

Instead of using a Carl Rove POLITICAL TACTIC and/or LIEberman ploy, why doesn't John McCain pick up the phone, call Obama, set up a schedule for town hall meetings, between the two of them, after they BOTH check events already scheduled??  Wow, wouldn't that be the intelligent way for an adult to handle a scheduling problem???
Instead of writing letters to Obama, with all details taken care of by Republicans, and then immediately releasing ALL THE DETAILS INCLUDING "The Letter" to the PRESS???  

Ohhh wait...is this from the GW playbook?  "Meet me on my terms, where I WANT, when I want, with the people I choose, with everything slanted MY WAY, and if you don't join us, then you are the enemy of the people???"  Ahhhh....that's what it is...MORE OF THE SAME!

This is how a candidate for the President of the United States conducts himself, when trying to work out a meeting with another LEADER?  
How ELITIST of John McCain to conduct himself in this way... it shows absolutely NO DEMOCRACY LEADERSHIP QUALITIES that need to be held by our NEXT PRESIDENT!

This is really ridiculous.  Sen. McCain had months to run around the country re-inventing himself as well as visiting Iraq.  The Democratic primary season just finished and now he wants to dictate and bully Obama into town halls.  I say, let him eat cake.  Obama should contnue with is agenda and if he can fit a few townhalls in that are mutually beneficial then so be it.  This is just a ploy to keep Obama from definigng himself to the American people.  These tactics are so obvious, it's a wonder that they still work.  Try to find some real news guys !!!
Give it a rest. Clinton didn't bury Obama in their Democratic debates. There was that one debate that was held in PA that Obama was said, to had didn't do so well in. But there was many Clinton-Obama debates, he did well in. As a matter of fact, many thought he had the upper hand over Clinton. So don't give us that "Hillary stomped on Obama during their debates" nonsense. Clinton had moments where she slipped up, and couldn't take the heat, either.

Anyways. I can't wait until these debates start. No matter where they take place, Obama is gonna rip McClown on serious issues, and make him look like the fool he is.

He's gonna play hardball with Bush's twin.

WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO THIS OLD MAN FOR 10 WEEKS  -- TEN MINUTES IS TOO LONG!

IN THE BLUE CORNER -- YOUNG, ENERGETIC, SMART OBAMA!

IN THE RED CORNER -- OLD, TIRED, CONFUSED MCMOLE!
Louie, NY (Sent Friday, June 13, 2008 12:06 PM)

The pause is called THINKING BEFORE YOU SPEAK - maybe you've heard of it?
I am so tired of the NEOCONS and I am a republican.  Everyone, Dems-Republicans-Independents please look at your wallet and vote for your only solid choice.  Senator Barack Obama For President!!

John go away with your old politics and ideas. You are going to lose 30 states in the General.  I can't wait to hear the concession speech.  

Obama should not do these townhalls as Fox of all channels reported that McCain planted on the people in the audiance for his town hall last night.  Again, another lie from McBush.  He said all voters were welcome but he only let the Neocons in by invite.  What a flipflopping snake McCain is. LOSER.

Republicans for Obama
Which of these is more bizarre?

Watching Mr. McCain as he tries to convince us all that his old prune face and penguin flaps will REALLY look more appealing than young, elegant Mr. Obama?

Or watching all those hard-core Clintonistas do their mental gymnastics, as they PATHETICALLY try to rationalize their acceptance of McCain's positions on the war, a woman's right to choose and his full-blown embrace of the failed economics of George W. Bush?
I thought the Dems couldn't wait to get their guy Obama on stage next to McCain. Now McCain gives Obama the chance, and he and his supporters run away like the little girls they are. What's the matter, scared of the old guy?


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