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McCain: Sundays with Zebari

Posted: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:05 AM by Mark Murray

The presumptive GOP nominee yesterday met with Iraq’s foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, at his campaign headquarters in the DC area. The Washington Post: “After talking behind closed doors for a half hour, McCain and Zebari invited reporters into the meeting. Both men complimented each other on their work, and expressed their faith that the war in Iraq was succeeding. Referring the Status of Forces Agreement between the U.S. and Iraq, McCain told reporters, ‘Any agreement will be based on partnership and in the national security interests of both countries... It's very important that we not let any of this success slip away and the relationship and partnership that has led -- and the new strategy that has led to the success that it has, I am confident will continue.’”

“When asked whether he would meet with Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the foreign minister said he would make time to brief the presumptive Democratic nominee during his U.S. stay. ‘We will have an opportunity to speak to Senator Obama also on this trip. Again to explain the same situation to him in Iraq,’ the foreign minister said. ‘I'd also give -- we are not a part, in fact, of the U.S. election whatsoever. I think this is a decision for the American public. But it's in our interest, in fact, to brief both candidates on the reality of the situation, the way we see it from our perspective, from people who've been at the thick of this conflict, so yes, indeed, we will have that opportunity.’” 
 
McCain later took the opportunity to hit Obama for not supporting the surge. "The situation on the ground is that we have made enormous success and the surge has worked," McCain said. "Senator Obama was wrong when he said it would fail."

“Questions from the media prompted Republican John McCain to cancel a fundraiser at the home of a Texas oilman who once joked that women should give in while being raped,” the AP writes. “The Texan, Republican Clayton ‘Claytie’ Williams, made the joke during his failed 1990 campaign for governor against Democrat Ann Richards. Williams compared rape to the weather, saying, ‘As long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it." He also compared Richards to the cattle on his ranch, saying he would "head her and hoof her and drag her through the dirt.’”

The AP: “Joe Lieberman is fast becoming the Democrats' public enemy No. 1. The four-term Connecticut senator, who came tantalizingly close to being Al Gore's vice president in 2000, not only has been campaigning for his pal, presumed Republican nominee John McCain, now he's publicly criticizing the Democrats' standard-bearer, Barack Obama…. The latest betrayal has upset Democrats, who often answer in clipped but polite tones when asked about Lieberman.

Historians tend not to give McCain’s candidacy much of a chance, Politico reports. “[T]he biggest obstacle in McCain’s path may be running in the same party as the most unpopular president America has had since at least the advent of modern polling. Only Harry Truman and Nixon — both of whom were dogged by unpopular wars abroad and political scandals at home — have been nearly as unpopular in their last year in office, and both men’s parties lost the presidency in the following election.”

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Keep patting yourselves on the back boys, telling us how wonderful its going in Iraq.  Wag that dog.

I think the time is ripe to kick Lieberman out.  Even if he's been with the Dems on many issues, the fact that he's not with them on the big gun (the Presidency) is reason enough to say, you're a closet Republican.

The surge -- working?  News to me.  I thought the jury was still out on whether the surge is working, but I guess if McCain needs it to work, he'll say anything.

Straight-talk express my foot.
McCain has abandoned his weekend vacations for campaign work. Good.

Both McCain, and Obama need to know that the Iraqis are being endoctrinated with an attitude toward our American military as 'occupiers'.

The mindset of those people, will never accept such a situation. They will fight on, with deadly resistance until Judgement Day. McCain does'nt have a clue as to what he's up against.

Anyone with a brain should be able to assess that the Middle Eastern conflict that has gone on for decades, has only widened to now include Iraq.

The kind of presence McCain believes he can achieve in Iraq, ie., Korea, and Germany, etc., is impossible.
Prediction:  If things remain as they are now, Obama will backtrack on his position/promise  about immediate troop withdrawal and will make a statement talking about it depending on conditions on the ground at the time.....and he'll pretend it isn't a flip-flop.  
He does it with everything else...
And why hasn't Obama made plans to go over there or even to talk to our military leaders about the situation as it stands now?
Obama: Great speeches - No substance
For something that is suppose to McCain's strong point, the war on Iraq will probably be one of the issues that loses him the election in November. The economy will be the other issue. Riding Bush's coattails isn't helping him, either. They are all delusional if they think Iraq is more stable now since the surge. It will never be stable.
Everything is just fine, fine I say, Iraq is a success and pigs can fly.
Well if its is working then let us get out. If not what is your plan John McCain.  If I was the Iraqi foreign minister I would not attach myself to McCain.  If the election turns out as a democratic victory then he and the Irqqi's are going to have to work with the new administration. What is apparrent is the White House and John McCain are utilizng, as Scott McClellan stated," coercive democracy" This ,as the imperialistic English knew in the 19th and early 20th century, will not work.  Keeping permanent bases will enflame the religious and nationalistic fires of the region costing us billions and unecessary loss in lives with less safety in the world.
Behind closed doors.  This is excactly the lack of transparency that got us into the political trouble we are in today.

Keep holding your meetings behind closed doors, Senator McCain, and we will trust you less and less.
Odd that a foreign minister would meet with a member of the U.S. Senate at the senator's political campaign headquarters rather than the senator's  office - but of course, the minister points out that he is not interested in getting involved in our domestic politics!
Liars and murders...Zebari...the land of the Labanites..
Success in Iraq is just what they want you to believe..
Keeps the money flowing....keeps the blood flowing..
Our Blood, not theirs...
The real issue is the economy McBush!!!
Mr. Zabari:  Have you gotten a response from Obama yet about whether he will speak with you?  I suppose, if you have, he has dictated the time and the place.  He's probably told you what you WILL and WON'T discuss.  Here's a tip, though, Zabari:  Don't bother Obama while he's eating his waffle.
Behind closed doors.  This is excactly the lack of transparency that got us into the political trouble we are in today.

Keep holding your meetings behind closed doors, Senator McCain, and we will trust you less and less.
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Hey, Democrat.  You just demonstrated your ignorance; not all discussions are for public consumption. They weren't deciding some world policy; it was a discussion.  So, when Obama meets with him behind closed doors, how are you going to justify that? With your standard, Democrat, then why isn't Obama holding his organizational meeting on a public basis?  How dare he not include us on that!  With your standard, we have to be included on whether they're ordering pizza or cheeseburgers today.
All First Read posters:

Unless you are paid by a campaign, hold political office, or otherwise: keep the talking points to yourselves.  Feel free to share ideas, but the talking points lend to a true discussion.
hey we don't need no true discussion, I will tell you who you can marry, who you can talk to, where you can go and what religion to beleive in and if you don't like it, your a traitor and off to gitmo with ya.
The surge has been working, but the liberal media chooses to ignore that. Also all the lives lost are equal or less, than the last three presidents years in office without being in war.
McCain is a knob.  The intended purpose of the surge was to get the Iraqi Government to take control of their land... to come to an agreement among all the different government officials because they weren't doing it previously.

The officials that were Sunni felt they weren't getting a fair shake while the Shiites felt the same way.  We established the surge to create space so they could come to an AGREEMENT about how to run their OWN country... guess what, they still haven't!!

Our young men and women are still dying. So when McCain talks about how the surge is working... he's full of bamboo shutes and rice paddies.
We are winning in Iraq...the liberators have pacified, er I mean befriended the citizens....the anglo-iraqi axis will live forever...we will have cheap and plentiful oil....there will be peace between the jews and palestinians...

Mccain and the neonuts can repeat it over and over...still doens't make it so
Is it possible for the Connecticut voters to recall Lieberman? Is there an organization working on it that I can contribute to?
McCain is such a child! You'd never know he'd served in the World War I! What? Did he call himself TELLING on Obama about the Surge? Is he kidding me? This election is getting too ridiculous by half!
Why is no one mentioning that they are still paying the insurgents not to attack? Would the surge be successful otherwise? What happens when they stop paying?

Not a single journalist has asked McCain this question.
Coincidence? Slip of the tongue? I doubt it.........

You are aware, probably, that Barack Obama lost his bearings recently and said that he was going to campaign in all 57 states.  You heard this?  And everybody chalked it up to, "Well, he's tired."  

Barack Obama says he's gonna go out and campaign in 57 states, he was just tired, you know, it's been such a long campaign, he's been so many places, he probably thinks there are 57 states.  Well, I have here a printout from a website called the International Humanist and Ethical Union.  And here is how the second paragraph of an article on that website begins.  "Every year from 1999 to 2005 the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states presented a resolution to the United Nations commission on human rights called combating."  And the title of the piece here is, "How the Islamic states dominate the UN human rights council," and there are 57 of them.

Obama said he's going to campaign in 57 states, and it turns out that there are 57 Islamic states.  There are 57 Islamic states.   So did Obama just lose his bearings, or was this a more telling slip, ladies and gentlemen?
Obama only has open meetings like Ca. fundraiser where he thought it ok to poke fun of small town pa. people and his new Religous convention where he already had to let Wright and the priest go from it. Evangelicals ought to want to jump right on that band wagon.
Obama will delicate his people to do the work of Pres. First one he picked had to quit and there is another that should. His religous grasp has had two that quit or pushed (Wright and the Priest) now he is at the church where the Governor goes. The one they are after next to Resko. Yep that White House will be some change for sure.The Uniter.
"The surge has been working, but the liberal media chooses to ignore that. Also all the lives lost are equal or less, than the last three presidents years in office without being in war."

Your proof?
Remember when "the surge" (just another word for troop escalation) was supposed to give breathing room for the Iraqi political sides to reach accommodation?  That hasn't happened.  Right now, we have armed (and trained) militias from every walk of Iraqi life and we call them the Iraqi Army (divided nicely into their ethnic & religious sects).  Hmmm, now why doesn't that sound to me like a recipe for success?  And wait a minute, didn't Al-Sistani (you know that moderate shi'ia cleric) put a fatwa out against Iraqis giving our soldiers food?  Has Senator McCain (or our current President) asked the Iraqis if they want us there indefinitely?  Oh yes, that is right, the Iraqis just rejected the package that would put 58 permanent bases in Iraq.

If the "surge" has worked, why cannot our soldiers come home?  If it is hasn't, why not?  And can someone PLEASE get somebody to define what in the heck "victory" or winning is over there?  General Petraeus couldn't do that for Congress, but surely the press can get Senator McCain do define this term he likes to throw around.
My question would be about how much political progress has been made by the Iraq parlament?  The surge's primary purpose was to calm things down for the Iraqis to get the POLITICAL SITUATION in hand and get the government moving.  That has not really happened, has it?  Our fighting forces have been doing the job for the Iraqis for far too long.  
Beware of Obama, you're the part of the horse that goes over the fence last!!
The surge worked!   no matter how much you ignorants want to deny it.   read the "Dora"  blog on this site.  positive news is not just underreported but discredited by the ignorant whiners that support the liberal adgenda blindly.  the obama supporters follow him with a "dawn of the dead"  zombie like countenance.  he can do no wrong?   inspiration and hope cannot pay the bills people and this is what you will find out with this unprepared city alderman.


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