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Obama vs. McCain: The money battle

Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:15 AM by Domenico Montanaro

The Washington Post: “Obama will become the first major-party presidential nominee to reject the public funds, passing up nearly $85 million in taxpayer money and instead looking to the 1.5 million donors who contributed to his primary campaign. Given his groundbreaking success in raising money in the Democratic primaries, estimates of how much he could collect for the general-election run to $300 million or more, a sum that would allow the senator from Illinois to compete even in traditionally Republican states.” 

VIDEO: Flip-flopping on a prior pledge, Barack Obama says he's not going to take public funding for his White House bid. His opponent, John McCain, blasts the decision. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

“McCain said Thursday that he would accept public financing, meaning he will be restricted to $84.1 million in direct spending in the two months between the Republican convention and election day,” the Los Angeles Times writes. “He accused Obama of breaking a promise to abide by the federal spending limit. ‘This is a big deal, a big deal,’ McCain said. ‘He has completely reversed himself and gone back, not on his word to me, but the commitment he made to the American people.’”

Bloomberg News notes that Obama’s decision “is likely to produce a cascade of money for unofficial campaign groups that until now have been on the wane… Republicans say the result will be that McCain supporters will be more likely to open their wallets to outside groups akin to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the organization whose efforts damaged Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry four years ago. ‘Obama not taking the public financing provides the catalyst for Republican donors to get increasingly involved,' said Stuart Roy, a one-time aide to former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, a Texas Republican.”

Good-government groups criticized Obama’s move to opt out of the public financing system, the Washington Post writes.  Public Citizen President Joan Claybrook called $85 million ‘plenty of money’ and warned that private funding -- even in the mostly small sums that Obama relies on – ‘comes with the expectations of special access or favors.’” More: “‘Senator Obama knew the circumstances surrounding the presidential general election when he made his public pledge to use the system," said Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21.” 

The editorial pages weren’t too pleased with the decision, either. The Washington Post’s: “Mr. Obama had an opportunity here to demonstrate that he really is a different kind of politician… He made a different choice, and anyone can understand why: He's going to raise a ton of money. Mr. McCain played games with taking federal matching funds for the primaries until it turned out he didn't need them, and he had a four-month head start in the general election while Mr. Obama was still battling for the nomination. Outside groups are going to come after him. He has thousands of small donors along with his big bundlers. And so on. Fine. Politicians do what politicians need to do. But they ought to spare us the self-congratulatory back-patting while they're doing it.” 

The New York Times’: “The excitement underpinning Senator Barack Obama’s campaign rests considerably on his evocative vows to depart from self-interested politics. Unfortunately, Mr. Obama has come up short of that standard with his decision to reject public spending limitations and opt instead for unlimited private financing in the general election.” 

David Brooks said Obama’s move was part of his “Fast Eddie” persona. “All I know for sure is that this guy is no liberal goo-goo. Republicans keep calling him naïve. But naïve is the last word I’d use to describe Barack Obama. He’s the most effectively political creature we’ve seen in decades. Even Bill Clinton wasn’t smart enough to succeed in politics by pretending to renounce politics.” 

The take by the AP's Sidoti: "Obama chose winning over his word. The Democrat once made a conditional agreement to accept taxpayer money from the public financing system, and accompanying spending limits, if his Republican opponent did, too. No more. The chance to financially swamp John McCain -- and maneuver for an enormous general election advantage -- proved too great an allure." 
 
The New York Daily News: "Obama Thursday became the candidate of change, all right - he changed his mind on public financing and announced he'll become the first presidential hopeful to fund his bid entirely with private contributions. Obama's decision means he'll pass up $84 million in public grants available to him for the general election, but at the same time he'll likely keep the hefty, three-to-one cash advantage he already has over McCain, experts said."

The New York Post's cover: "Barackflip." Story headline: "Going Barack on his word."

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I think it was a wise decision by Obama.  Obama has about 1.5 million donators that has given at least $20.  

He will raise more than the 84 million in public grants!!


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This is simply another sign of how the internet has changed our lives.  Campaign finance is old and antiquated, the internet gives average people like me the ability to log on and donate to a candidate, like Obama. What is more public than millions of people donating to a candidate?  This is the future.

Let’s also say there is a fair amount of hypocrisy here.  McCain declined public funds in the primaries....if he believed so much then, why didn’t he take the public funds?  He simply realizes now that Obama will out raise him 3 to 1 so he's whining to the press about it.  
Note to Morning Joe:  1.5 MILLION Americans = Public Campaign Finance Reform.  Politicians have been sitting on their backsides in regards to true campaign finance reform for decades.  So we the people said, "fine, if you won't do it, we will."
"Even in the mostly small sums that Obama relies on – ‘comes with the expectations of special access or favors."  Yeah, if give Obama $20, I expect him to fix the pot hole in front of my house.  That's ridiculous.  How can 1.5 million people expect special access to the president.
When's the last time ANYBODY on this board or on the First REad team checked the box that finances public campaigns.  I thought so.  The system is broken.  I'd rather contribute to a team that gets results.
He is getting public money, just not the way they want!
I am the public and I donated to his campain, just because it was not on my taxes does not make it non-public!
Well after wrapping up the nomination, McCain is holding fundraisers costing attendees $90,000 each.  The money is split between various groups each committed to electing John McCain.  Obviously, those people will be expecting something from a President McCain even as he accepts "public financing" for the general.  So what is the point of McCain accepting public financing again?
Obama may have the money, but he had the money against Hillary too, and got pounded in the later primaries in many. many states where he outspent her five to one. Money is nice, but the truth will be the determining factor. And the truth is not on Obamas side.
Ha, Obama is a different kind of candidate - he's the one NOT taking tax money for his campaign.  He's financing direct from the public.

Oh, and for my $200, I certainly do expect lots of special treatment and access - HA, what a stupid statement from Public Citizen President Joan Claybrook.

Really, Bloomberg?  This is what's going to drive money to the Rep 527's.  What, you don't think they were lying low waiting to spring their attack after Obama chose to limit his resources to respond?  Of course that is what they were doing, and he's too smart for them.

McLame gamed the system in the primaries and I have no doubt he would have done the same in the general.  The man is on the double-talk-express all the way.
Don't hate because Obama can raise money and some others can't. Nobody expects favors from politicians more than lobbyist.  Obama will not see or ever know most of his donors.  Why are you guys so nervous?  Is it because Obama can now spend his money anyway he chooses to campaign and McCain is under gov't rules.  Personally I think money to campaign for President should be voluntary and not taken out of our tax money.
I don't understand the statement from claybook about small donations reqquire favors. The small donations are coming from average americans like myself. Average americans are not seeking favors, but believe the washington system has drowned out our voices specifically the working class. Average americans are not lobbiest or pac. Claybook's statement makes no sense. Second, Obama is funded by the public. It does not matter whether the money comes from people's taxes or people may an online contribution. pulbic financing is public financing because the funds does not come from pacs or lobbiest. what is he big deal?
Senator Obama has chosen the new public financing...he's got the people in his corner donating to his cause...and our cause!

To the critics...he doesn't take public financing and you slam him for not keeping his word (which was conditional and at the time, Senator McCain had not elected public financing).  Guess what...if he did elect public financing y'all would be slamming him with your pathetic "That's Not Change" drivel.

Get over yourselves!
Thank you Senator Obama for saving the taxpayers $85 million.  That money can be used to fund the new GI Bill.  

It's time to come together for our country.  Bush/Cheney have created a fascist state with corporations running our government.  The Republican Congress has "borrowed and spent" us into an irresponsibly huge deficit, with the paper being held by the Chinese and some oil rich states in the Middle East, and McCain is willing to borrow even more.  

It's time to join together to work towards electing a Democratic President with a workable Democratic majority in both the House and the Senate.  

This time do something smart and vote for your wallet, vote for the economy, vote for the environment, vote for jobs, vote for America!  

Vote for the smartest candidate in the race, a real leader (and no that's not McCain, who graduated at the very bottom of his class -- not by a long shot)

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again.  
If the goal of the 'good government' groups (and by the way, who is for 'bad government'?) is to give the people more say in how their government performs, what better way is there than having individual Americans support financially the candidate of their choice?  Republicans should support Sen. Obama's decision to reject 'public' financing of political campaigns.  Afterall, don't the Republicans say they support the concept that people know better what to do with their money than does the government?
Yes, the risk of special favors are there when a candidate opts out of public financing. But there are still plenty of ways special interests can aid a candidate taking public money. Obama (and probably the GOP) never forsaw the avalanch of money that Obama received from private donors; due to a highly skilled Internet campaign. What mostly irks John McCain is that Obama has the excitment and now the money to compete in states that John Kerry and all those prior to him could not due to the limitations of Public financing. The GOP (Bush v. Kerry 2004)used groups such as "Swift Boats Veterens for Truth" to attack the democratic candidate. While it is any groups perogative to support the candidate of their choice, opting out of Public Financing brings them into the fold publically and not skeeming with Party Bosses in a back room pretending to be non-partisans bring the the truth to Americans. It a perfect world candidates would only need Public Financing since groups like Swift Boats wouldn't exist and the American electorate would use intellegence when choosing the leader of the free world.
Obama could have gamed the system and taken the $80 million in public money but instead he'll depend on his supporters for financing.  There's nothing dishonorable in that.  The system is broken.  McCain already broke the law with the way he financed his primary campaign but there's no enforcement of the law.  Why should Democrats get themselves tied up trying to follow the law when Republicans are so willing to break the law?
I was really disappointed to see Chris Matthews attack Obama for changing his position.  Chris has been around long enough to see tactics and strategy without calling Obama "Clintonist".  Chris looks up to his ol Mentor Tip O'Neal and President Carter. Did they ever change their position?  More than once.

Actually it could be argued that Obama just saved the government $84 million dollars.  Going without federal money says something about Obama trusting his supporters and his supporters trusting him.  This is not a major story.  Let's talk about gas prices, Iraq, the housig crisis. Hardball is becoming curve ball and Tim would not be pleased.
I believe that all the stern talk about Obama going back on his work is a bit off the mark.  To be sure, Obama did say he'd accept public financing if certain conditions were agreed upon.  It can pretty easily be argued however, that John McCain, through his tacit approval of the outside-the-campaign attacks on Barack (and Michelle) Obama, is not meeting some of those conditions.  It wasn't just the accepting of public funding, but also the agreement to try to tamp down some of those outside-the-campaign fires.  McCain seems to have every intention of taking full advantage of that system, and allowing a full blown 'swift-boating' of Obama on his behalf.  This is in contradiction of the spirit of the agreement that Obama has spoken of all along.  

It is pretty easy to see this as him breaking a vow, but a closer look at his position over the course of the campaign reveals that he'd left his options open.
Guess who's not checking off that $3 donation for public funding box on her tax return ever again? Me!
I don't want McCain using public money to spread misinformation about policy, i.e. that lifting the ban on offshore drilling will lower gas prices, when the truth is if we allow drilling we may say a 3 cent a gallon saving but not until 2027. Public funding of campaigns may have been a good idea, but in the hands of McCain, it becomes a really bad idea.
I would have been upset if he didn't reject public financing. It would have been the equivelant of unilatteral disarmorment. This election is way too important not to play to win. Take the heat now, but win in November.

Go Obama Go!!
As an Iowan and a long time supporter of Barack I am very disappointed in his decision, we could all see it coming but he had made us HOPE that he wasn't a typical Pol.  It's bad enough that he opted out but to suggest in our e-mail that he is the underdog in fundraising potential is just plain insulting.
Unfortunately we are a country that is so easily influenced by the media and marketing, so its a no brainer that he will opt out of 85 million to spend 300 million.

it took him 100 Million to convince everyone he should be the nominee...he'll need 300 million to convince the easily fooled that he should be the president.

BO has lots of money and will blitz the media. Once you hear something enough, you begin to believe it whether it is true or not....

He is no different than any other politician...just better at fooling people.
The system is broken.  Politicians routinely say they're following the law while they game the system.  The lawbreakers are NEVER punished.  Why should Obama play that game?  He's done the honorable thing in opting out.
Just a little nudge on the flip flop meter from comrade obama...he would have looked like a dummy passing up the chance to pull in 2 or 3 times what his opponent will have...speaking of dummies...

Mcbush must have decided his brand wasn't strong enough to attract more than 84M from his adoring legions of compassionate conservatives
In all honesty, the public financing system didn't stop the 527's in the 2004 election from falsely smearing a dedicated war hero, yet we're to believe they wouldn't have done it again had Obama accepted public financing- of course then, Obama wouldn't have had the money to fight back.

Now, I agree, he shouldn't have stated in the beginning that he would agree to use public financing and then opt out of it.  However, I do think he may have agreed to it if he had McCain's vow that 527's would not play such a major role in the McCain campaign and its advertising(indirectly, of course).

At the same time, Obama has taken the path of stating that special interests groups and lobbyists won't play a role in his campaign, and has requested that the DNC abide by that same policy.  I admire his stance.

Obama broke his word and stated he won't accept public financing (although what else you call the American public actually financing his campaign, i.e. millions of donors giving small amounts, I'm not sure?)
Bush and the Repubs(i.e.McCain) have lied to us time and again(i.e. WMD's- the search for which has led to an ensuing war and thousands of lives lost)

Which would I prefer?  Hmmm...tough choice.  Not!

Obama '08

Kudos to Senator Obama!  How can anyone in good faith criticize a candidate who doesn't want to spend taxpayer dollars for TV ads?  There are plenty of people in this country who go hungry every day, and too many people to count that don't have health insurance.....and yet, there are those who want to criticize for opting out of taxpayer dollars for TV ads and bumper stickers.  Sorry John McCain...I find this one a "hard sell".  
The irony is that we keep hearing about Obama's 'pledge', which Keith Olbermann debunked last night as a theoretical question.  Note that NONE of the other candidates even answered the question.  This was the smartest, most ground breaking move in modern politics.  The haters weren't going to vote for him anyway.  The rest of us are happy to send him our $200.  And yeah, fixing that pothole in front of my house would be kinda' nice!
Explain to me how opting out did not break his campaign promise?  This is not the first time he has done this.  What else has he said can you rely on?  

“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views,” Mr. Obama wrote in “The Audacity of Hope, his I’m-running-for-president book. “As such, I am bound to disappoint some, if not all, of them.”
Obama had rejected public money for the primary season. But he also said in January 2007: "I'm a big believer in public financing of campaigns. And I think that for a time, the presidential public-financing system works."

Obama's campaign in March vowed to "aggressively pursue" an agreement with McCain in which both would abide by the limits.
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Okay, Obamatons, please begin the spin.  What are we misunderstanding in the above statements from BO?  Robert Gibbs must have been VERY dizzy after going on all the talk shows this a.m. to spin the lie.
Even his own puppet Chris Matthews was dismayed with BO. They mentioned the dates of six occasions when BO said he'd "aggressively pursue" public financing. So how much are we supposed to believe BO from here on out? He's already flipped on other things, too.  So how many more things will there be?  How are you going to feel when you don't get your education credit, your ?$1000 tax credit, healthcare, the troops out of Iraq, new energy sources, etc etc.  Yep, this is CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN...Obama lying and changing his mind. Thought Obama was a "new kind" of politician. LOL. What you have in Obama in an old-type Chicago style, lie to your face politician.  
  The problem with Obama changing his mind on the public financing is not an issue that I think many Americans care that much about.  The problem is his resume is so thin that we have very little to honestly judge him on, and when he reneges on a decision to take public financing it calls his honesty into question.  There are so many folks on this site blinded by love for Obama that they won't honestly consider what I've just said, but when you hold yourself up to the highest standards things like this are magnified.  
It's all about winning and Barack Obama has shown that he's a winner.  I approve of his wise decision to opt out of public financing, saving taxpayers $84.1 million dollars.  "Beggar Boy" McCain has to waste taxpayer money to finance his losing campaign because he can't get donors like Obama can.  Regular Americans have shown that Barack Obama is the people's choice.

It's so funny to see how "Desperate Disturbed" McCain whines like a little crybaby about Barack opting out because he knows Obama is going to crush him in November as he turns many red states true blue.  Barack never signed any agreement or pledge or promise not to opt out.  He answered a question on a questionaire and it was non binding so he is free to do whatever he feels is correct to win in November.  I approve his decision wholeheartedly!  I'm so glad I never check the $3 box so that "Desperate Disturbed" McCain won't be wasting my tax money.

Go Obama 08/12!
If McCain had not abused the system so recently, this might have been an issue. And if the FEC was not a farce then I could see holding Obama morally accountable.

But dems have always lost by taking the moral high ground.

Only a fool would give up a 3 to 1 advantage like that.

More over, Obama has earned his support, just as McCain has earned his lack of support (by being a maverick). He should not be punished for giving people a leader they can believe in.
Barack Obama when he agreed to consider public financing —in my opinion—did not dream that he would be harrassed and demonized as much as he has been in the press and on the net. He needs a lot of money to get out his message out and to counteract the hate and race campaign and LIES that are being generated every day.

Let's be more practical about this!!

The Republicans have been scamming the elections for years with the outside groups that raise millions on their behalf. It is time for the Dems to fight back.

Senator Obama has an obligation to do what he has to do to win this election.  That is why he was nominated.  I totally support him opting out of public financing.

McCain would do the same if he thought he would raise the money.  

I hope that McCain does pick Pawlenty to be his VEEP.  Gets him out of our state.  McCain is delusional if the thinks that will help him win MN.  He totally does not understand MN and our neighbor Wisconsin if the thinks Pawlenty helps him there,
BO, the pundits and on this blog, people have mentioned BO being afraid of the 527s.  What is the ONLY 527 Presidential ad running right now?  Haven't heard BO tell them to shut it down.  If he needs piles of money to fight 527s that are "gaming the system", it just seems he should not allow anybody to use his name in one. Fake, fraud, liar. You can spin it anyway you want; he broke his promise.
I don't understand the editorials saying he's not a change candidate. He's the first presidential candidate to opt out of public financing since it was introduced. How is that not a change from previous politicians?
ABSOLUTELY HYSTERICAL how the Obamaniacs turn in to pretzels to defend Barry's flip flops, while pulling out the high-test vitriol every time they think Mac changed his position.  Jusst goes to show, that for all the alleged purity etc, that they have no principles.
If McCain had the ability to raise funds like Obama does, this would not be an issue; he would have opted out as well; (as he did in the primary) ["Flip-Flop??!].

If this is the best Republican argument against Obama, they should just start planning for 2012 now.

The american public knows what is going on this cycle, and all of the "flip-flop" BS is just that...If McCain wants to talk about Campaign Finance Reform; he should take that meeting with Barack Obama ASAP!

We are tired of seeing the attack ads, we want to see the solution ads! Barack's solution to the "broken system" is to rely on private donations while not allowing donations from PAC's or Lobbyists, both for his campaign and the DNC. He has done more for the common cause of the American People with those moves than any other politician to date! If and when John McCain takes these same steps; we would then have a true "discussion" taking place on this issue.

Sorry media outlets; reporting on this as though PAC and Lobbyist monies are not part of the issue will not work!! We've seen enough of the 527's etc. to last us for awhile!
I sent Obama $50 bucks, Im expecting my Porsche any day now ;-) . Joan Claybrook needs to get with the times.
Obama was in a bad situation either way. I too would have been disappointed if he didn't opt. out. He'd be playing into the Republican's hands and he'll need every dollar to beat back the 527's. It's the right move, not popular now, but it's the correct thing to do to win in November.

I've paid taxes for years and have never, ever checked that box to donate for public financing, but I have give the Obama campaign $25 because I support his platform, not because I expect a favor. The good gov. groups and media aren't making an apples to apples comparison. His fund raising power isn't through special interests, but through regular people, and I thought that was the point of campaign finance reform in the first place.
I am planning on giving Obama money for his Presidential campaign and I do expect some small favors.  The favor of rational foreign policy. The favor of ending the torture of prisoners of war.  The favor of ending the rendition of American citizens.  The favor of pulling us out of the civil war in Iraq.  The favor of promoting alternative fuels.  The favor of running the government competently.  The favor of handling the multiple crises Bush is leaving behind including healthcare, homeland security, skyrocketing deficits, the mortgage meltdown.

I expect nothing less for a couple hundred bucks than the restoration of the honor and dignity of the United States of America.  I expect a return to the days when America was seen as a shining beacon of Democracy.  I expect a government who shows compassion to all its citizens.

For McCain to criticize Obama about campaign finance reform is the height of hypocrisy.  McCain has already broken the campaign finance laws during the primary season.  I don't think good faith negotations are possible with someone who has already shown their willingness to set aside the laws they find inconvenient.  Lets be clear.  McCain broke the law.  Obama opted out.  The difference is as stark as night and day.

Change OPRAH can pay for!
The only special "favors" I ask of Obama, as a donator myself, is for him to make the necessary changes to Washington we need. That is all I expect.
WOW~MCCAIN IS JUST MAD BECAUSE HE GOT OUT SMARTED.  CHRIS M OF HARDBALL  HANNITY AND MORNING JOE WERE THE SAME GUYS WHO WERE SAYING THAT WAS WEAK AND HE NEEDED TO MAN UP GET SOME BACKBONE ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO INSULTS HIM.OH BUT WAIT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING YET. HE WENT TO ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOL IN THE UNITED STATES HIM AND HIS WIFE THEY ARE BRILLANT PEOPLE.MCCAIN WILL BE ALRIGHT  HE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT HIS WAR CHEST. ALSO THEY WERE ARE SET TO SWIFTBOAT HIM BY PUT HIS BOAT BOY DIDN'T THAT BACK FIRE . THIS GUY IS WONDERFUL  MICHELLE WAS SO BEAUITFUL ON THE VIEW HANNITY CAN'T FIND STUFF TO SAY ABOUT HER HE IS SHITTING IN HIS PANT. I FOR ONE ARE OVERJOYED AT WHAT TEAM OBAMA IS DOING . LET THE GAMES BEGIN OBAMA 08
"Joan Claybrook called $85 million ‘plenty of money’ and warned that private funding -- even in the mostly small sums that Obama relies on – ‘comes with the expectations of special access or favors.’”

This is completely incongruous and disingenuous fake rage.  People who donate $10-$25 do not 'expect' Obama to take up one of their personal policy positions!  

These 'Reform Groups' of pre-2004 don't realize that the internet has changed the game for candidates by allowing the average Joe to become more informed and donate to the candidate that already reflects their personal ideals and positions.  It's not money that's the problem; it's big money and influence peddling.  Special interests and big money bundlers are the reason why those 'Reform Groups' were originally created, not the money itself.

While I disagree with Obama on this issue, his argument of having a form of public financing already, does make sense and is VALID.  Stop with the fake outrage already.
I can't wait for this forum's 2 faced Liberal Socialists to get their wish. BHO in the Whitehouse regardless of the path ( no not the Adware BHO "Browser Helper Object" ) For 2 years the democrats controlled congress leading to 4.50 gas and zero legislation regarding any hyped up call for change. When they have the Whitehouse and the Congress in their pockets who are they to blame when the whole country regresses like a Carter Admin part II.

You'll be on your knees praying Emperior GWB was back in power when the USA Haters are running everything inside and outside our borders.
Obama has just proven that the White House is for sale, just like everything else. How much will it take to buy him off if he is elected president? I'm sure someone like China will come up with the money.
Excuse me, but when I hear Obama whine about needing money for all the attacks that are sure to come, I can't help but think about that pathetic ad with Baby Alex, the one McCain can't have, after Move On decided to pluck a few words out of a statement McCain made.  
Given the number of people who have contributed already to his campaign, it has some look like a grass roots campaign.  It would be even better if this was being done by a third party.  From various bits that I have heard, most of the close to 2 million contributors have donated less than $1,000 to the Obama campaign so far.  
What Obama should do is ask for money from his supporters for the election, and once he wins... he should continue to ask for money on a daily basis from his supporters for his plans to spread the wealth.  Now, that would be a change from traditional politics.


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