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Obama, Dem govs talk economy

Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:18 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
CHICAGO, Ill. -- The economy was the topic when Obama met with just over half the nation's Democratic governors Friday morning in the city his campaign has made a center of national party politics this election year.

The 16 governors -- there are 28 Democratic governors nationwide -- hail from blue states, red states and swing states. In attendance were Dave Freudenthal (WY), John Baldacci (ME), David Paterson (NY), Joe Manchin, III (WV), Ted Strickland (OH), Kathleen Sebelius (KS), Edward Rendell (PA), Janet Napolitano (AZ), Jim Doyle (WS), Jennifer Granholm (MI), Bill Richardson (NM), Martin O'Malley (MD), Christine Gregoire (WA), Jon Corzine (NJ), Mike Easley (NC) and Ted Kulongoski (OR).

Obama said he brought the group together in part because the unique role of governors requires a focus on solutions rather than partisanship

"I've always been struck by the essential common sense and pragmatism of governors in comparison to some of the stuff that goes on in Washington," he said in talking about his interest in working closely with governors during his campaign and during an Obama administration. "You've gotta solve problems; ultimately the buck stops with you. You've gotta balance your budget. If you've got a badly drafted piece of legislation, you're the ones who have to live with it and as a consequence you end up spending less time posturing and trying to score ideological points and more time trying to govern. We need that same approach in Washington."

In his opening remarks he hit McCain on his gas tax holiday proposal, his plan for tax cuts that benefit the very wealthy and his reversal on offshore oil drilling.

"When I hear John McCain say that he is now in favor of the same oil drilling off the coast that he was opposed to just a week ago," he said. "What he doesn't tell you is that George Bush's own Energy Department has said that this would have no impact on consumers until at 2030m -- 2030 no appreciable impact for the next 22 years, something they're not telling consumers. Imagine what we could do over the next 22 years in investing in completely transforming our transportation infrastructure. That's the kind of approach that I think all of us agree we need to take."

Obama took notes as the governors gave brief opening remarks about their concerns, which included everything from high gas prices to the mortgage crisis and how the issues are affecting workers in their states.

Several of the governors spoke about the need for a policy that can reduce energy costs, to invest in infrastructure and to help people pay for higher education. New Jersey's Corzine talked about the need for a second economic stimulus package Obama has put forward – he has called for a $50 billion stimulus to help working families -- and for the need to change the tax code so that it doesn't benefit mainly the wealthy, while North Carolina's Easley spoke about training the workforce for the high-skilled jobs of the future and Kansas's Sebelius called affordable healthcare and "bottom-line" issue.

Napolitano and Richardson, from the border states of Arizona and New Mexico brought up the issue of immigration and Strickland and Granholm from the economically hard hit states of Michigan and Ohio spoke about job losses.

The group spent the last half of the event delving more deeply into a discussion of infrastructure investments and energy policy.

After the discussion Sebelius said the meeting showed there were "no longer Clinton governors and Obama governors; we're all Obama governors" and that people were engaged in coming together. She estimated about two dozen governors had been present at a private meeting with Obama last night, noting 24 out of 28 was a good showing.

*** UPDATE *** The McCain campaign passes along this response: “Hardworking Americans need leadership they can believe in and trust, but Barack Obama has demonstrated that he’s unwilling to keep his word on issues like campaign finance reform and that he refuses to acknowledge the need of offer any solutions for relief for energy prices in the near term.  While governors across the nation are talking about ways to increase energy production domestically, Barack Obama is letting ideology get in the way of real solutions.”

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It's interesting that Dem. IL Gov Blogo is a no show.
let's see here.  After speaking with others and getting more information, McCain decides for the good of the COUNTRY  that we should change policy on drilling.  A good leader reconsiders and changes positions as conditions change.  But, Obama condemns McCain for that.

Obama lies, breaks his promise and turns down public financing. He changed his mind for the good of OBAMA and his own blind ambition.  Change you can believe in...that Obama's going to change his mind which he has on numerous things already.  If he will lie to you when he needs your vote and money, what do you think he will do when he doesn't need you or your money anymore?  FAKE, FRAUD, LIAR
The postal code for Wisconsin is WI.  There is no WS.  The former Western Samoa?
I watched this meeting on CNN.COM. I was very impressed.
Obama said he brought the group together in part because the unique role of governors requires a focus on solutions rather than partisanship
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Since he's so committed to bipartisanship, why weren't any Republican governors there?  
I like the way Senator Obama gives everyone a voice in the process . . . I get the feeling that he is really listening and not just posing for a photo. Government "of the people" is making a come back - and not a moment too soon!

Obama/Biden '08/'12
So what your saying is that Obama brought the govs together for a photo op, then he took the opportunity to bash McCain, and then he didn't put any of his proposals on the table (which to my knowledge there are none). This type of behavior is becoming a troubling pattern for Obama.
The war is bankrupting this country along with big business tax breaks and Cheney's removal of Halliburton to another country. Shame on the Bush administration for their blatant mismanagement of this country. I don't know how anyone could get us out of this mess.
It's an economic meeting, and the Democrats talk about immigration. Talk about clueless.
I watched this.  Some very good discussions from some very sharp governors!!!!!!!

GO OBAMA!
I think this is great that Obama is doing his - he is applying his organization skills to gather consensus to develop policy going forward. Hopefully he will set some concrete goals and milestones for his administration. He needs to understand that small businesses need funding to develop new economic opportunities and established large businesses like autos need tax breaks to retool their business before they lose more market share because they employ so many workers. These are a form of government welfare - to be honest  - but the payback on the investment is huge. Getting people non-service, manufacturing skill oriented jobs is the most important issue facing us today.
Obama's already acting presidential! Gotta love it.McFossil's flip flop on the off shore drilling only took him 19 days to switch! Didn't he just say that you can't trust somebody who keeps switching back and forth? Hmmmmmmmmmm? I can't wait for the debates! Obama will make him look like the foolish old (creepy)man he truly is.
Interesting.  Obama's nod to the "essential common sense and pragmatism of governors" could be interpreted as an early attempt to define his future running mate.  My gut tells me that the VP could well come from this list.  It could help Obama fight the "just words" criticism and showcase the strength of his policies by bringing along an experienced governor (probably in a swing state) who will - to paraphrase the quote above - spend more time trying to govern and less time trying to score ideological points.  A clear appeal to the Hillary supporters who saw her as being more solutions-oriented.
No Change!  More of the same!

Vote John Bush 08
The economy is looking very bad!  Home loan interest rates are on the rise, Mortage forclosures are on the rise, Pay is staying constant and the stock market is crashing!!!

The economy should be the topic on everyone's agenda!!!


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Typical Democratic economic meeting. Lets have more  deficit spending, and increase taxes on the rich. And what's the carbon footprint for getting all these jokers in one place? Or did they take public transportation?
(Republican Traffic Warning Posted:)

Well-oiled machine in FULL OPERATION!! Move out of the way!!
Barack, if we start drilling and mining our resources today, at some point in time we reap a benefit. When do we reap the benefit of our own resources if we never start drilling and mining?
Obama's economic message focuses on what we can't do? No mining, no drilling, no refineries, no nuclear plants, no independence! That's the Democratic economic plan, to Just Say No?
The energy policy disussion shouldn't have taken up too much time, the Democrats don't have one, other then to tax the oil companies that is.
Political historians should be taking notes. This will be one election for the classrooms and the history books.
If they want to target a Much Overlooked area for Economic Stimulus, they might want to try looking at a $500-1000 Check for every person that lives on either Foodstamps, SSI and SSD.  Those are areas in which many are not making enough to pay taxes therefore have been left out of previous Economic Stimuli.  I myself am, disabled with a rebuilt neck and lots of attendant nerve damage, seizures and massive chronic pain, have been fighting for SSI for nearly 4 years now.  In that time I have had no, and I mean ZERO actual income. Therefore I was not elegible for the Economic Stimulus Checks that have been going out.  I survive on foodstamps and live in public housing or I would be homeless too. The ONLY way I am able to be online is because I bought this comp when I was trying to retrain and in college and the fact that I have free WiFi in my area, although that is supposed to end today. (I live in portland OR and they are selling the co, no one has bought so is shutting down)
 I can tell you for sure that If I had $500 I would be spending a lot of it rather quickly, as there are things that i really NEED to buy or do.  If they wanted to move the economy AND help the very poorest segment of the population at the same time, this would be the way to go, in my honest, tho biased, opinion.
Is the only way that Senator McCain can get some attention to make snarky comments about what Senator Obama does each day? That's not very Presidential. He is becoming the Eddie Haskel of politics.

Is the gas tax holiday even an issue anymore?  Sounds like posturing and scoring ideological points to me.  Same with the old tax cuts for the rich thing.  And the campaign finance flip-flopper really has no standing to talk about McCain changing his mind on letting the states decide offshore drilling.

What a fraud.

Has anybody else noticed that since the nomination was decided that First Read and MSNBC have come completely out of the closet in their active support for Obama's campaign?

Yes, fellows, it shows.
Does anyone else feel like John McCains responses are just falling flat?  They are predictable and political.  It's really boring so far.
The McCain camp seems to become more desparate every day. This race is already over. McCain might as well save his money and return to Arizona.  
I like the way Obama goes about things.  He values various opinions, listens and takes notes in order to form a well thought out solution from a pool of thought, not just his own ideas.  That is a sign of a skilled leader.
None of the suggestions that McCain has brought to the table will help energy prices in the "near term"...flat out wrong about energy, the economy, and how to turn this around.

Obama will win this election with the small money, not soft money.

McCain, your boat has run out of gas....start paddling
I hope they talked about the need to repair our infrastructure

It's been falling apart for years

It's not just the Republicans to blame
They'eva all been mesmerized by the 'no new taxes' nonsense

Time to open up our wallets and fix our infrastructure
If we're serious about energy independence that also means mass transit and highway repair

In California, public interests have been slowluy starving due to Prop 13, the free lunch initiative form the 70's

Maybe we don't need a global empire....

Maybe we don't need to militarize space...

(why do we have military bases in Africa ? the Indian Ocean ? FOR WHAT ?)
(100 years in Iraq ??)
"Barack Obama has demonstrated that he’s unwilling to keep his word on issues like campaign finance reform and that he refuses to acknowledge the need of offer any solutions for relief for energy prices in the near term"--John McCain's response
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Is this the best attack McCain can do?  For the first part, do we really think anyone outside of political junkies care if Obama is somewhat changing his stance on public finances (as I feel an examination of his survey response reveals he did not break his word)?  It is an issue that will be dead in the minds of 90% of the public by Monday.

The second half of McCain's response has greater potential fallout for McCain than his opponent.  First, it is a reversal on his previously stated stances on offshore drilling (an odd flip flop to be included in the same sentence he accuses his opponent of the same).  Second, many coastal state voters are strongly against off-shore drilling.  Is he costing himself Florida with this new position?  Thirdly, much like his gas tax proposal during the primary season that failed to lure voters, this too stinks of pandering to the short-sighted views of some voters.  Off-shore drilling would potentially bring in more oil, but it could take 10 plus years to reach you and I.  Also, it does not help to solve for the fact that many refineries are underproducing and the Enron loophole still allows oil speculators to dictate a rise in prices to fill their own pockets.

Barack Obama is trusting the voters to look into the issues, as he did when Clinton parroted to gas tax a few months ago to failed results.  Te voters are smarter than John McCain gives them credit for.
Go hide under a rock McSnot. You are forever whimpering. Do you think the people care if Obama refuses public financing? No, we don't and you will realize that when we donate enough funds to his campaign that will exceed your public funding by 400%. Then you will still cry about it, but only because your not the one getting the money. We've paid you repukes enough to sit on your arse and do nothing, to send our sons to die for the oil you want so bad, and to allow Bin Laden his freedom. We've funded you over $1 Billion dollars a month, and it has cost us. Stop whining, no one cares about the public financing issue, but you and it's only because you're on the losing end of the deal.
So Obama is arguing we need a governor for President instead of a couple of Senators? Does this mean we have time to start over?
McCain has offered no solution for relief in energy prices in the neat term either. His gimmicks are all he has which all experts have deemed as impractical and would change nothing.

Obama may have gone against what he said early on about public campaign funding, however, he did not go against what has been his platform the entire time, he wants to change broken Washington politics. And quite frankly, public finance with all its loopholes is broken Washington politics at its finest. The people power his campaign anyways. And that is true public financing. Not the financing of lobbyists and corporations.
From the RNC:

"Senator Obama's claims that the sky is blue represent a failure of responsibility. Hard working Americans everywhere clearly recognize that the sky is magenta and John McCain is the only candidate in this election who promises to keep the sky magenta."
What is the McCaign campaign "responding" to?  They are pouting because they were left out of the party.  Obama brilliantly gets a bipartisan group of governors together to discuss a wide range of economic problems.  Before one can have solutions, one has to understand the problems.  McCain just doesn't get it!
When you ask people what it is about Barack Obama you like, it always "change".  Change what you ask?

Nobody has answered that question correctly yet.....

And he is showing why he is nothing more then a typical tax and spend liberal.
As a new supporter to this process and as one of the many newly energized democrats because of Obama, I don't understand why every time Obama does something, the McCain Camp sends a response.  Is this normal.  I don't want to read all of these updates.

Last night on most of the MSNBC news shows, they pointed out that McCain isn't exactly clean when it comes to campaign financing.  I am surprised that he keeps harping on this issue as if to say because Obama changed his mind, he is unable to lead the country.  How many issues has McCain flip-flopped on!  I think this is an "Old man yells at cloud" moment.

Obama '08
Governors have grown in stature in the last number of years and it is about time. They should begin to flex their corporate muscle more to pressure their representatives in the congress and senate to move the federal government to action. Obama will be wise to continue to work with them - with more substance- than this first meeting.
If this is all the McCain camp has against Obama...they are in trouble come November.
GOP = Gas Oil Party

Now that's shameful ideology.
I feel sorry for McCain. He's a nice guy, but he shouldn't be president.
Mcain is the one being dishonest.  He tried to opt out of public finance but was told he couldn't because he secured a loan based on taking public financing in the general. He is such a liar and a flip-flopper.  Isn't there anyone in MSM who will hold his wornout feet to the fire.  

Why won't you in the media ask McCain to explain his comments on not really liking American until after becoming a POW.  

McCain: liar, fabricator, cheater, and hypocrit from day one.  I'm McCain and I approve this message.
Seems to me that McCain had his head stuck up his nether region.  What good is it going to do us to drill oil off our coasts if it's not going to have an impact NOW instead of 22 yrs. later?  People are looking for solutions NOW not years from now.  Sure, drilling off the coast will generate more jobs but that's about all it's going to do other than destroy our coastlines.  That idea is just as bad as the "gas tax holiday" idea.  Can you say cr@p?  

As Sen. Obama (and coincidentally Sen. Clinton) both said we need to BREAK our dependence on foreign oil and find OTHER solutions to help us cut down on the amount of oil we use in this country.  Starting with the auto industry and working from there is a great start.  It's obvious that we can't rely on the oil companies to figure it out because with all their "research" (which I'm no where convinced that it's even actually going on) have come up empty handed.  We need a more sustainable energy.

McCain proposes also to build more nuclear reactors for energy.  That prospect is scary in and of itself because I know for a fact that people still don't want one in their back yards (NIMBY).  Virginia just fought against having one built in Chesapeake.  What does THAT tell you?  And where would we put all this waste that comes from these reactors?  No one seems to have a solution to that little problem either.  

McCain's ideas just seem too ancient and overused to the point that it sounds, looks, walks and quacks like that idiot Bush; and it seems that NOW Bush, with mere months left in office, is trying to come up with "something" to make his approval rating go up a couple of notches. Sounds to me like he's either borrowing from McCain or McCain is borrowing from him. Either way McCain is to Bush as Bush is to McCain...one in the same.

This country is in such shambles that there is NO way the next POTUS is going to be able to clean it all up in one term.  STARTING at least is a step in the right direction.

God speed Obama!

O8
That comment by the McCain campaign is the definition of projecting. I used to respect McCain but now I see that he is an opportunist. I am not saying that Obama is an angel. He isn't! But the fact that the McCain campaign have to comment about this is rather silly and desperate.
Is it me or does it really matter where Barack gets his money for the election. It seems as though the Mc"i need a cane" camp can not let go of the fact that they could not corner Obama into foregoing 250 million dollars from his devoted followers and take 84 million. Who in there right mind would stick with that plan. McSame calls him a flip flopper but I need a President that will see that there is a better way of doing something than the way he had planned and gets the result. Mcsame and Bush keep moving the goal post in this Iraq thing, "mission accomplished" was stated by bush over 4 years ago and they keep saying that we cant leave until we win. If the mission was accomplished didnt we already win.
Senator McShame

And what governors are you talking to today? I understand one governor asked you not to disrupt his cleanup efforts and divert his message for recovery in Iowa by campaigning and you did not honor his wishes.

Also I remember seeing Obama shoveling sand and helping out with the flood effort.

So who is not responding with positive action??




John McCain - stop being a sore loser....do you really think people are going to care what you think about Barack Obama's decisions.  

Please - try focusing on what you CAN'T do for the American people...we all know what Barack Obama can and believe U.S. when we say ...It's exactly what we need and want in this country.

YOU GOP's, RNC can try to spin your way in this election all you please. But, it will always come out like whipped do - do, and it stinks.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
The McCain campaign passes along this response:
OH YEAH!

they don't really have much [of substance] to say.
Sometimes I think the McCain camp isnt even watching the same election as everyone else.  Their responses seem so canned and reused that it doesnt seem like there is really anyone in charge.  Just a monkey hitting a button everytime it hears the words Obama and Democrat.
Obama is one smart man!!  Having these summit meetings now, makes sure he is up-to-speed on major issues before he takes office.  His organizational skills, and desire to get input from the best sources, will make him an excellent president.  McCain still has to get his campaign organized.


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