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Domenico Montanaro, NBC News Political Reporter



Pressing on

Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:09 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
The Obama camp is pressing to keep the Charlie Black flap alive, but not quite asking for him to be fired. Today, the Obama campaign hit McCain and Black with a conference call with 9/11 Commission member Richard Ben-Veniste.

“Charlie Black’s statement that a new terrorist attack on U.S. soil would be a big advantage provides a candid and very disappointing glimpse into [what] one of his [McCain’s] closest advisors [thinks],” Ben-Veniste said.

Ben-Veniste demurred when asked if Black should be fired. There should be a “call for a recalibration in the thinking… staying away from the politics of fear.” He said it would be a “good idea” for McCain “to caution those … who’ve created this turmoil.”

Ben-Veniste said he was particularly disappointed in McCain, who he called “a supporter of the 9/11 commission.” “But his support of Bush’s policies,” Ben-Veniste said, adding, “put him at odds with Obama’s ‘principled’ stands.”

He cited particularly that “failure to complete the mission in Afghanistan,” the “disgrace” that bin Laden is still alive and said the “ruinous war in Iraq has made us less safe.”

Earlier in the campaign, McCain tried to take back his comments that his candidacy hinges, in large part, on success in Iraq.

“We should debate terrorism,” Obama advisor Dennis McDonough said. “It’s one that Barack Obama is willing to have.”

He then rattled off several proposed debate questions. “Why haven’t we captured Osama bin Laden? Why does Al Qaeda have a sanctuary in Pakistan? … Why isn’t Afghanistan secured? Why haven’t we finished the fight against the Taliban?”

[EDITOR'S NOTE: An earlier version of this post inaccurately attributed the last two paragraphs to Ben-Veniste and should have been McDonough.]

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Fear mongering will not work in this Campaign.  Not this time.
Mistake!  Call for Charlie Black to be sacked because of his stupid comments but now BO has politicized the 9/11 commission.  Compare Ben-Veniste to how Lee Hamilton conducts himself.
Charlie Black, If Sen. McCain can Sleep At Night with a Man and other Lobbyist like this no problem for him

Charlie Black's deal-making goes far beyond the usual corporate lobbying we've come to expect. His lobbying firm worked for evil men—mass murderers, terrorists, and tyrants. This is a moral issue.

The firm run by Charlie Black made millions helping burnish the image of people like:

· Ferdinand Marcos, who executed thousands of his own citizens in the Philippines,

· Zaire's Mobutu, who publicly hanged his opponents and looted his country's vast mineral wealth, and

· rebel leader Jonas Savimbi, a mass murderer, who covered Angola with landmines.

In the wake of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, we can't afford a president whose closest adviser lacks a moral compass.
I think it's smart not to ask for his termination. Then you can keep pointing back to him as needed. To the person on the post prior to this. I totally agree with Tim From Reading PA. (my birth place) there is no need to attack the Clintons unless you are a repugnant want seeking discord amongst the Dems. Trust me it will not last much longer. That we dont need you crap is pure crap this is not a cake walk and even if it was yo miss the point. The Obama campaign is about inclusion not exclusion.  Yes leave the McBush fear tactic campaign in tact and let them continue to use Bush advisors as well.
Considering the gross mismanagement of his campaing I don't know why NE1 has any confidence in McBush's ability to handle any crisis.  The guy can't even decide how he stands on a single issue--what makes you think he could make decisions in the middle of a crisis?
FR - what's with posts not going through?  I seem to see many more republican supporters on here than normal.  Mainly complaining and insulting everyone that doesn't agree with them...

Trying to appease them by giving them more blog time, since they having been complaining about you not be "fair" enough?

I wish you would post your ACTUAL guidelines for publishing our posts so we don't waste our time.  Not that this will be posted or anything...

P.S. Lisa from CT - where are you?
Barack Obama has principles? Someone who asserts there is no moral absolute cannot, by definition, have principles. He is only running on the idea of "change" for change's sake, progress for progress' sake. Blind leading the blind.
John McCain with his "Experience" Should Take Care of our SOLDIERS, since he has not for years in the Senate

ACTIONS SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS TO GET ELECTED

WAIT FOR BENEFITS LEAVES INJURED SOLDIERS IN RUINS (Tampa Tribune)
DISABILITY PAY TAKES MONTHS TO ARRIVE

San Antonio Texas......His life long dream of becoming a soldier had, in the end come to this for Issac Stevens, 28 penniless, in a WHEELCHAIR fending off the sexual advances of antoher man in a HOMELESS SHELTER.

Stevens descent from Army private first class 3rd Infantry Division, 11 Bravo Company began in 2005 not in battle because he was never sent off to Iraq or Afghanistan, but with a head first fall over a wall on the obstacle course at Fort Benning Ga.  He suffered a head injury and spinal damage.

The injury alone didn't put him in a HOMELESS SHELTER instead it was MILITARY BUREAUCRACY, specifically, the way injured soldiers are discharged on just a fraction of their salary and then forced to wait 6 to nine months and sometimes even more than a year before their full disability payments begin to flow.

"When I got out, I hate to say it, but man, that was it.  Everybody just kind of washed their hands of me, and it was like, OK you're on your own." said Stevens, who was dischardge in November and was in a SHELTER by February.  

He has since moved into a temporary San Antonio apartment with help from Operation Homefront, a non-profit organization.

Nearly 20,000 disabled soldiers were discharged in the past two fiscal years and lawmakers, veterans advocates and others say THOUSANDS COULD BE FACING FINANCIAL RUIN while they wait for their claims to be processed and their benefitsw to come.

Most permanently disabled veterans qualify for payments from Social Security and for military or Veterans Affairs.  Those sums can amount to about 2/3 of their active duty pay.  Until those checks show up, however, most disabled veterans draw a reduced Army paycheck.

The amount depends on the soldiers's injuries, service time, and other factors, but a typical veteran and his family who onced lived on $3,400 a month might have to make do with $970 a month.

Unless a Soldier has a personal fortune or was so severly injured as to require LONG-TERM INPATIENT CARE..........that can be an extreme hardship.
In a policy change that took effect in August 2008 the Army is allowing wounded soldiers to continue to draw their full Army paychecks for up to 90 DAYS after discharge, Baker said.

It is also sending VA workers to Army posts to process claims more quickly and trying to do a better job of informing soldiers of the available benefits and explaining the application process................

These are our HEROES and this is how we honor them?
Shouldn't they be the Military's PRIORITY?

How can they be asked to put their lives on the line for us or become injured in the process only to find out that once injured..........................

Their lives are RUINED..........................

Perhaps John McCain could spend his time making sure that our INJURED HEROEs don't end up HOMELESS  WHILE WAITING FOR THE MILITARY TO HONOR A COMMITMENT TO THEM
Unless and Until Our HEROES INJURED OR NOT BECOME A REAL PRIORITY........................

The so called experienced long term Military folk should focus on them rather than sending them.....................


Chuck Todd, dude you totally missed it. This is a big deal. We've had 8 years of GW because of FEAR. Now we finally look to be free of this kind of thinking & false claims of WMDs & here they are bringing this up.
Don't sack Black!  Let him shoot his mouth off and embarrass Mccain further!  As long as Obama has a "Truth Squad" out there pointing out exactly how the Mccain campaign uses fear-mongering as a campaign tool, the public can get educational benefit out of every stupid thing that comes out of Mccain's or Mccain's staff's mouths. Turn the fear-mongering against them!
Good luck trying to get a response from the republicans, they only have criticism for you.

They never answer questions, they give half answers and blame the democrats, then they call you a liberal is if I can give that word to the attendant at the pump.  

Republicans will never answer questions about Bin Laden.. He must have some dirty laundry on the Republican party..The republicans quickly turn the conversation to IRAQ.  and make the conversation about the number of terrorist attacks on America since 9/11.

Lets put this in simple terms:

If someone murdered a member of my family and the police know exactly who committed this crime they would go after that person until captured..

In the republican world they offer this instead:

I know your loved one was murdered and we know who committed this crime but instead of us going after him we are going to go after anyone like him.  Now I know these people didn't kill your loved one but we feel like this will make your neighborhood safer, even those the person responsible for killing your loved one is still out there and we aren't trying to catch him..

I mean am I the only person that see's this terrorism situation this way..

I was gung ho after 9/11 to go after the people responsible for this and then the republicans just decide to stop looking for him and went to IRAQ behind OIL... So oil is more important that the lives lost right here in AMERICA.. You people that support more of this DISGUST me..
Ron Paul is the only conservative candidate that has a chance to defeat Obama in the fall.  McCain is not the party nominee yet.  Go to www.ronpaul2008.com   Washington is in desperate need of change and needs solid intelligent leadership.  The GOP is wrong to not make a place at the convention for Paul.
Politics as usual!
I think Charlie Black will be the gift that keeps on giving, so why ask for him to be fired? Obama camp can keep on pointing out that he's a lobbyist. I'm a little surprised at this McFossil campaign so far; not much meat, is there? Maybe it's early, but I thought they'd be more ruthless by now. They act like they don't know what their doing. I hope it continues.
I hope Obama chooses Chuck Hegal for VP, even though he's a Republican, because when he talks about Iraq I feel like he is being straight with the public. I am sick of being afraid and confused about terrorism. This is not an issue pols should be exploiting just to win votes.
[Earlier in the campaign, McCain tried to take back his comments that his candidacy hinges, in large part, on success in Iraq.]
--Look, John McCain apologized for the comments way up front.  No deliberation, no 24 hours and I don't believe there was malicious intent behind Black's comment.  That seems good enough for me.


[“We should debate terrorism,” Ben-Veniste said. “It’s one that Barack Obama is willing to have.”]
--Then have it.  All the Obama campaign needs to do is accept a town-hall agenda.
[[[ Republicans will never answer questions about Bin Laden.. He must have some dirty laundry on the Republican party ]]]


If the Democrats are in charge, and Obama is captured, oh sorry, arrested, one of the ACLU lawyers will get him off on a technicality, and bin Laden would then be elected mayor of Berekley.

It is unbelievable how much the Democrats hate this country, they are actually cheering for bin Laden to be successful for their own meager political gain.
Fear mongering will not work in this Campaign.  Not this time.
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Really, Joe Reed?  Then I guess BO will stop playing the fear and race card like he did on Fri. He was telling his supporters to be afraid during the campaign.  Sounds like fear-mongering to me!Then, the man who said he'd NEVER make his race an issuei n the campaign, said people would say to be afraid of him because he's "black." Sounds like race-baiting to me. He's a fake and a fraud.
Hey I have no problem with what Obama is taking him to task on: Policy and the issues.  And that is the ONLY thing that Obama is hitting him on.

But . . .

I have a serious problem with people like Joe Scarborough, Buchanan and other "respected" Republicans referring to Obama as 'exotic' and using terms like 'otherness' to describe a personal quality about the man.  The Minority community recognizes Racism whenever and wherever it raises it's head and Pat, Joe . . .

why not just call him a n____?!

Why must the GOP assail peoples Character!?  More than half of the fight coming from the GOP is about his character NOT issues!  And yet they write articles like 'Obama snubs Muslims.'  The moment that Obama is photographed with the local Imam you GOP'ers will assail this guy with the ludicrous notion like
"what do we know about him?"  
". . . as far as I know(Damn you Hillary!)"
" . . . He's Exotic . . ."
". . . He possesses this otherness . . ."

And you guys in the Media will help them push that agenda because it creates drama and sells papers!!!!

Never mind the fact that it STILL puts down people of color!

The insinuation is extremely obvious, pitiful and frankly frustrating.  Even with all the crap that John Kerry went through in 2004 no way was he described as 'other'!  You guys in the media and Mika Bresinkski  I'm especially disappointed by people like you that let your guests get away with such 'code' words for a persons color on your show!  John McCain has been around for years and he's white; nobody would dare insinuate that he's not a real American!  Yet THAT is what the GOP and the MEDIA to some extent are doing!  The whole thing is hurtful, shameful and offensive!

Man I really miss Tim Russert right now!  I really, really miss him!  Such a historic election and we're going to miss what could be a real education of how the government works and a serious debate on the great issues of out time!

Tim Russert Oh how I miss you!!      
Wonderful that Obama wants to debate McCain on this.  When it's going to be????  Oh, I guess it's not happening after all. Mr Chicken Obama who said many times he'd debate McCain anytime, any place won't even agree to a townhall meeting now.  How's he going to keep from debating?  What will the excuse be?  Maybe, he'll have some Muslim women show up in hijabs and say he can't be in the same room with them and cancel any debate or town hall.  FAKE, FRAUD.
Phil Gramm another MCCain Key Exe RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MORTGAGE AND THE ENRON LOOPHOLE..............

AND JOHN MCCAIN HAS THE NERVE TO TARGET WHO?

NEWS: Years before Phil Gramm was a McCain campaign adviser and a lobbyist for a Swiss bank at the center of the housing credit crisis, he pulled a sly maneuver in the Senate that HELPED CREATE TODAY’S SUBPRIME MELTDOWN

By David Corn
May 28, 2008

Who's to blame for the BIBBEST FINANCIAL CATASTROPE OF OUR TIME?

There are plenty of culprits, but one candidate for lead perp is FORMER. SEN. PHIL GRAMM.

Eight years ago, as part of a decades-long anti-regulatory crusade, Gramm pulled a sly legislative maneuver that greased the way to the multibillion-dollar subprime meltdown.

Yet has Gramm been banished from the corridors of power? Reviled as the villain who bankrupted Middle America? Hardly.

Now a well-paid executive at a Swiss bank, Gramm CO-CHAIRS SEN. JOHN MC CAIN'S PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN and ADVISES.....the Republican Candidate... on ECONOMIC MATTERS..............

He's been mentioned as a POSSIBLE TREASURY SECRETARY..........should McCain win.

That's right: A guy who helped SCREW GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM........ COULD END UP IN CHARGE OF U.S. ECONOMIC POLICY

Talk about a MARKET FAILURE.

And in 1999, Gramm pushed through a HISTORIC BANKING DEREGULATION BILL that DECIMATED Depression-era firewalls between commercial banks, investment banks, insurance companies, and securities firms—setting off a wave of merger mania.

But Gramm's most cunning coup on behalf of his friends in the financial services industry—friends who GAVE HIM MILLIONS over his 24-year congressional career—came on December 15, 2000.

As Congress and the White House were hurriedly hammering out a $384-billion omnibus spending bill, Gramm SLIPPED in a 262-page measure called the "COMMODITY FUTURES MODERNIZATION ACT."

Written with the help of financial industry LOBBYISTS and cosponsored by Senator Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), the chairman of the agriculture committee, the measure had been considered DEAD—even by Gramm.

Few lawmakers had either the opportunity or inclination to read the version of the bill Gramm inserted.

"Nobody in either chamber had any knowledge of what was going on or what was in it," says a congressional aide familiar with the bill's history.

It's not exactly like Gramm hid his handiwork—far from it. The balding and bespectacled Texan strode onto the Senate floor to hail the act's inclusion into the MUST-PASS package.

But only an expert, or a lobbyist, could have followed what Gramm was saying.

The act, he declared, would ensure that neither the SEC nor the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) got into the business of regulating newfangled financial products called swaps—and would thus "protect financial institutions from overregulation" and "position our financial services industries to be world leaders into the new century."

It didn't quite work out that way. For starters, the legislation contained a provision—lobbied for by Enron, a generous contributor to Gramm—that exempted energy trading from regulatory oversight, allowing Enron to run rampant, wreck the California electricity market, and cost consumers billions before it collapsed. (For Gramm, Enron was a family affair. Eight years earlier, his wife, Wendy Gramm, as CFTC chairwoman, had pushed through a rule excluding Enron's energy futures contracts from government oversight. Wendy later joined the Houston-based company's board, and in the following years her Enron salary and stock income brought between $915,000 and $1.8 million into the Gramm household.)

But the ENRON LOOPLE was small potatoes compared to the devastation that unregulated swaps would unleash. Credit default swaps are essentially insurance policies covering the losses on securities in the event of a default. Financial institutions buy them to protect themselves if an investment they hold goes south. It's like bookies trading bets, with banks and hedge funds gambling on whether an investment (say, a pile of subprime mortgages bundled into a security) will succeed or fail.

Because of the swap-related provisions of Gramm's bill—which were supported by Fed chairman Alan Greenspan and Treasury secretary Larry Summers—a $62 trillion market (nearly four times the size of the entire US stock market) remained utterly unregulated, meaning no one made sure the banks and hedge funds had the assets to cover the losses they guaranteed.

In essence, Wall Street's biggest players (which, thanks to Gramm's earlier banking deregulation efforts, now INCORPORATED EVERYTHING FROM YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT TO YOUR PENSION FUND) ran a secret casino.

"Tens of trillions of dollars of transactions were DONE IN THE DARK," says University of San Diego LAW PROFESSOR FRANK PARTNOY, an expert on financial markets and derivatives.

"No one had a picture of where the RISKS were flowing." Betting on the risk of any given transaction became more important—and more lucrative—than the transactions themselves, Partnoy notes: "So there was more betting on the riskiest SUBPRIME MORTGAGES than there were ACTUAL MORTGAGES."

Banks and HEDGE FUNDS, notes MICHAEL GREENBERGER, who directed the CFTC's division of trading and markets in the late 1990s, "were betting the SUBPRIMES WOULD PAY OFF and they would not need the capital to support their bets."

These unregulated swaps have been at "the heart of the subprime meltdown," says Greenberger. "I happen to think Gramm did not know what he was doing. I don't think a member in Congress had read the 262-page bill or had thought of the cataclysm it would cause." In 1998, Greenberger's division at the CFTC proposed applying regulations to the burgeoning derivatives market. But, he says, "all hell broke loose. The lobbyists for major commercial banks and investment banks and hedge funds went wild. They all wanted to be trading without the government looking over their shoulder."


SEN. MCCAIN IS STILL DEFENDING GRAMM TO THIS DAY!

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Its been a long time since I have seen the GOP in such chaos. A misstatement here, a lawsuit there, here a gaffe, there a flip-flop.  I can't recall anything like it. There has to be some worried congressmen (and women).  Personally, I credit Bush for most of the GOP problems. Everything Bush touched went sour and nobody stood up to him, plus he lied to us. The American people have had enough and I see Barack winning 40 states by November.  In the debates Barack will make McSame look...old.
Amy from Portland - you need to think...no need to be scared and right now the only people that are scared are the Republican liers.  

SO if you are scared then make sure you vote for Barack Obama come November, other wise you have become a continued victims to the continued "fear" mangoring by the Republicans.  

U.S. smart Americans won't allow that to happen...will YOU?

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Can Anyone explain why the Bin Laden.. Family had the only Plane in the Air on 9/11 and why they were allowed to leave the country/

Very Strange

perhaps Charlie Black knows something that Americans don't
I'll take Obama's uplifting speeches for change any day over McCain's droning about practical solutions that don't work!
With all of McCain's experience and years in the Senate-what does he really have to show for it?  Really!?  What great piece of life-changing legislation has he provided for the common person?  
He only supports the Bush pollcies and platforms.  
No nore Bush and None of McCain.  How about Al-Quaeda?
The only terrorists I see getting caught are the republicans in their lies of fear.

I want to scream when I hear McCain talk about "pork-spending" when billions are being borrowed for an unwarranted military occupation in Iraq.  He truly doesn't have a clue about how angry Americans are and will be this fall. Our anger will trump your fear!

For reference:
A terroist is someone who uses fear to control. The republicans are the most dangerous terrorists in America!  
I agree with MI Chick.  First Read, PLEASE POST the real determining guidelines on what posts end up getting published, and the disqualifying criteria for those that disappear into the FR Abyss.

A well thought out, succinct argument or post shouldn't be disqualifying either -- it gets frustrating wasting time on something that doesn't see the light of day.  The willy-nilly (hypothetical) subjective bias of your moderator should NOT influence what gets posted and what doesn't.  Nor should the moderator favor particular regular posters.

But then again, I doubt this post will be published either.
If you don't think fear is a powerful motivator look to see what impact Russert's death has had on the number of individuals that have made appointments for a physical check up or how many people will be buying flood insurance in places that floods seem unlikely.

Black's statement was foolishly made but true.....now maybe we can re-address the concept of being politically correct vs. simply correct.

This is not a new tactic for Obama.  It's the same thing they did when they went racial over Bill Clinton's comments in South Carolina or Ferraro's comment about Obama's popularity.

I prefer Obama to McCain but I do not respect this sort of emotional spin.  
Just my two cents worth but, I think this comment ranks right below Hillary's comment about Kennedy being assassinated.

Its cold, heartless, calous and cruel.

I GUARANTEE IF OBAMA HAD SAID THAT HE WOULD BE CRUCIFIED.

My parents always told me "your words form your world".
Don't even speak it if you don't want to see it come to pass.
I thought Hillary said it in desperation, and I think Black stated in a "Freudian slip" the ONLY way McCain could get elected.
I don't doubt for a minute either of them secretely wish it to be so.
Its pathetic.
Tell me Sen. McCain... is gaining the office worth the loss of more human lives????????
Keep him in!  Keep in all of the staffers..  The more they talk, the less the Obama camp has to do..
I love it, these Republicans are like attack dogs on these blogs. Instead of debating the facts, they attack.  I am so sorry for you guys that you can't see that this country is in bad shape after 8 years of the biggest criminal administration we have ever seen. You can hide behind your hate and dumb blog names, but deep down you know that the Republican party has done you wrong. Hate all you want, it's not healthy to go through life being a hater. Democrats have the truth, Republicans have..........nothing.
Twisting in the wind the liberals are.
In the wake of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, we can't afford a president whose closest adviser lacks a moral compass.
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Sage in AR:  You are talking about Obama when you mentions having no moral compass, aren't you?  A man who signed his intent to take public financing. The same man who at least six times in 17 months publickly said he'd take public financing and then broke his promise on that.  You mean the man with the moral compass that allowed him to use and abuse his own grandmother and then throw her under the bus?  You mean the guy with moral compass who said no new taxes, but his plans are FULL of new taxes. You mean the guy with the moral compass who lied to us about REv Wright, said he couldn't disown Wright and then did?  Yes, I guess that's who you were talking about.
What happened to the message of "Change" and "No More Politics as Usual"?
"Charlie Black committed the 'gaffe' of telling the 'truth'"

BS! BS! BS!

If Republicans think anyone trusts them more on National Security after all these years of freedom for Osama Bin Laden; they are certifiably CRAZY!!

The only folks drinking the kool-aid now are the MSM and the Republicans!!

"FEAR" as a "Political Tactic" is DEAD!!

The real fear now is that we cannot get rid of enough Republicans this term to make some concrete changes in Washington!!

A note to Republican,

In our house:
-Lights are turned off when we are not in the room.

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Question: If you're not in the room, how do you know they are off?

Wanna keep a liberal busy? Write "Turn over to other side" on both sides of a piece of paper, and then give it to a liberal. Hours of fun. You might have to read it to them though.
NObama

Why aren't you in the one of the armed forces? You profess to be against Obama. That makes you pro-McCain. forget about Hillary - she's history for this election. If you are pro-McCain, then you are for continuing the Iraqi war. So send in your tax money so we can buy more weaponry. There isn't any money left to spend here in the US.
You know, when Hillary Clinton and then John McCain were referencing months- and years-old stories, they were bringing up legitimate points. When Obama brings up a day-old story, he's "trying to keep a story alive."

Seriously, the McCainanites really have to stop with this crap that MSNBC is somehow biased for Obama. Just because they occasionally point out the many, many missteps McCain has made in this campaign does not mean they're biased against him. If anything, bias is in weasel words like the ones used in this post. Domenico, I'm very disappointed in the coverage your blog is giving this Black story. Is Arianna Huffington the only blogger out there who understands the media has been seduced by a septuagenarian?
It is  shameful that the media is not giving this the attention that it deserves!  McCain's people OPENLY advocating for another terrorist attack . . . so they can win the Election????!!!  Tell me First Read:  Why aren't you guys peppering McCain w/ questions, why is it only the Obama Campaign making a fuss about this???  I saw first hand the second plan slamming into the WTC; the window in front of me bowed in so much from the force of the explosion we cringed back expecting it to blow out!  I saw people leaping to their deaths from the buildings to escape being burned to death!!  I saw them hit the pavement below!  I still remember it like yesterday!!  I remember the smell of . . .'burning' for weeks afterwards . . .!!!!!  

And . . . this Idiot DARES invoke this!!!????
As a plus if this happens!!

And you guys are STILL giving a McCain a pass, relatively, because of what?  He's a war hero!!??  
His support of this war and his continued retention of Black is Criminal and frankly cancels out any bonafides he may have had on the subject!!

Tim Russert would have had you guys whipped into shape about this!!

Absolutely HORRIBLE!!!!!

Don't sack him. The public is not stupid. that would enable voters to see who the real Marxist, terrorists, supporters are.
The Democratic Party can use this boost of unity and focus on the statement Bush made. bush say invasion. of Iraq is an option.
It is unbelievable how much the Democrats hate this country, they are actually cheering for bin Laden to be successful for their own meager political gain.

Trevor Marks


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How dare you say I hate my country.  I have gone to soldier's funerals and held their children while their wives wept.  I have seen what the "war"(occupation) in Iraq has done to American families and cried for my friends that died a senseless death.  When Bush said we were gonna find bin Laden and take care of him, I was 100% behind him.  However, bin Laden is still out there, completely forgotten about by our leaders until they need to frighten us by name dropping.  Nobody wants bin Laden to succeed, but he has, hasn't he.  If us Democrats want bin Laden to succeed even further, then we'll vote for McCain in November.  Don't ever tell me I don't love my country.


i don't agree with any of the candidates i was a clinton supporter. I don't think that any one who does say the pledge of allagiance should be allowed to be president like Obama who does not say it. Any one who is going to run this country should not have a problem saying it. Instead he puts his hands down by his side and turns his back. Now what kind of president would that make.
Once again - slandering non - sense from a densed republican.  

Yet this one call himself a warrior.  

I would say more like a joke.

Haven't you guys learned how to be nice yet.  Is evil a part of the Republican gene?

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Of course Obama is a politician, how else could he be where he is today.  However, he is a better politician than most who've been dragging their old bodies along forever without accomplishing anything.  I believe Obama will do a great job as President.  I'm tired of the endless talk on public financing, who cares anyway?  Obama will make mistakes along the way and I will still support him because I believe he will begin the process of making America into what we should be which is strong, powerful, financially self-sufficient, and aware of our environment and what needs to be done to improve the atmoshphere we leave to our children and their children and so on.  I may be overly optimistic but look what happens when we turn the country over to a person like Bush who has no idea what needs to be done beyond "getting" Hussein because Hussein made fun of his father, the first Gbush.  The current Bush vowed he would capture Hussein for his daddy and look what that got us. Check that one out MSM!!  


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