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Obama's 'different vision' for U.S. energy

Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:05 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones

LAS VEGAS, Nev. -- Obama kept the focus on energy at an event with green technology workers at Springs Preserve -- a site outside Las Vegas dedicated to sustainability -- arguing he offered a different vision for America’s energy future than his Republican rival.
 
The presumptive Democratic nominee called oil a “a 19th century fossil fuel that is dirty, dwindling, and dangerously expensive” and said a renewable energy economy was not  “some pie-in-the-sky, far-off future, it is now." He said making progress toward energy independence and encouraging clean energy was one of the top three goals of an Obama administration -- along with ending the war in Iraq and reforming the healthcare system.
 
VIDEO: A new poll says voters give Barack Obama's energy policy an edge over John McCain's. MSNBC's David Shuster talks with Obama advisor Susan Rice and McCain advisor Nancy Pfotenhauer.

“I have a very different vision of what this country can and should achieve on energy in the next four years -- and in the next 10 years,” he said. “My entire energy plan will produce three times the oil savings that John McCain’s ever could -- and what’s more, it will actually decrease our dependence on oil while his will only grow our addiction further.”
 
Obama's discussion with a group of about 100 people here, roughly coincided with an event his McCain was holding on the environment in Santa Barbara, CA and the Illinois senator drew laughter at times as he sought to draw contrasts with his rival, criticizing the Republican's record on clean, renewable energy and his current proposals. He slammed McCain again for proposing a gas tax holiday and for his opposition to the 2005 energy bill that increased investment in renewable energy, saying the Arizona senator had voted against biofuels, solar power, wind power -- “some of the very same projects and businesses he’s highlighting in his campaign.” He seemed to mock McCain for saying yesterday that lifting the moratorium on offshore drilling would have a mainly “psychological impact.”
 
“A psychological impact. In case you were wondering, that’s Washington-speak for, “It polls well.” Obama said to laughter in the crowd. “The American people don’t need psychological relief or meaningless gimmicks to get politicians through the next election cycle, they need real relief that will help them fill up their tanks and put food on their table.  They need a long-term energy strategy that will reduce our dependence on foreign oil by investing in the renewable sources of energy that represent the future.  That’s what the American people need.”
 
Obama talked about his own plans to invest $150 billion over ten years to develop alternative energy sources and his plans to raise vehicle fuel standards and help car companies make the transition to more fuel efficient cars. He said McCain’s offer of a $300 million reward for the developer of a better car battery was too small-scale, suggesting it was another example of Washington’s failed approach to the issue.
 
“After all those years in Washington, John McCain still doesn’t get it,” he said. “I commend him for his desire to accelerate the search for a battery that can power the cars of the future.  I’ve been talking about this myself for the last few years.  But I don’t think that a $300 million prize is the way to go. When John F. Kennedy decided that we were going to put a man on the moon, he didn’t put a bounty out for some rocket scientist to win – he put the full resources of the United States government behind the project and called on the ingenuity and innovation of the American people, not just in the private sector but also in the public sector.”
 
Obama also said McCain’s proposal to build 45 new nuclear reactors did not make sense because he had no plan to store the was in any place other than at Nevada’s Yucca Mountain.
 
McCain campaign responds
 
The McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds sent this response to Obama’s remarks in Las Vegas: “John McCain has proposed an energy plan that calls for gas tax relief in the short term, increased exploration and energy development in the near term, and innovation and alternatives for long term energy independence.  While John McCain is putting the country first with the best ideas from both parties, Barack Obama has become the ‘Dr. No’ of energy, refusing to accept any idea that will contribute to solving America’s energy crisis.”

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Obama has no answers and if he gives one today he will change it tomorrow.

The empty-shirt candidate.  It's all talk and no action with Obama. Not good enough.

Obama is ontificating. Barack, we need a plan. Blaming others is not a plan.
How much was the reward for catching Bin Laden?  Oops, that didn't work either.
BO's plan is to auction off polluting rights which will raise approximately 100b a year. From this he will invest 15b in renewable energy projects.  The rest will be returned to the consumer to ease the cost of transition.  The way I read this is that for $1 I raise your energy costs, I'll keep 15c for my favorite projects (ethanol, wind, solar?), and I'll return what's left of your $1, say 75c, after administrative and other costs.  What a deal!!

Again, why no movement on closing the Enron loophole?  I want oil to drop by 20% before the end of the month.
Obama will come around to McCains thinking on energy soon enough, just like when JM told him to go to Iraq. Then Obama, and the press, will spin it to make it look like it was Obamas idea all along. And of course Baracks followers will follow in lockstep.
McCain Stop it!

LOL!  You are looking SOoooooo dumb!  Your own people are debunking you!?  And you gaffed by daring to talk the truth: The gas tax holiday relief would be psychological.  Funny do you and Obama . . . agree?

LOL!!

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUD!!

LOL!
I see Obama as the strong one on the environment. John McCain is a war man and it is hard to see MCcain as anyting other than.... he who knows war. McCain doesn't even make me feel safer of national security. Republicans have been in the white house for 8 yrs and they are just now concerned with appearing green. It's a joke... un utter joke!

Vote change that will actually happen.... VOTE OBAMA!
Of course other countries smaller then the US, but with more nuke plants, manage to store their nuke waste just fine. Somehow though Barack thinks this problem is not solvable. Being President means you're supposed solve problems barack, not just point them out. This country figured out how to put a man on the moon, solving the nuke waste problem should be a tad bit easier to figure out.
This is nothing more than scam, Boy wonder again in left field minors on energy. Pass the law and get rid of the speculators! there is the solution. Obama, where did he get this mass information, sounds like some kind of a know it all!
[The presumptive Democratic nominee called oil a “a 19th century fossil fuel that is dirty, dwindling, and dangerously expensive”]
--Is that a crack against the presumptive nominee's age?  (substitute the word 'oil' for 'John McCain').

[“My entire energy plan will produce three times the oil savings that John McCain’s ever could -- and what’s more, it will actually decrease our dependence on oil while his will only grow our addiction further.”]
--That's the argument Democrats need of which I agree completely.  I love it!  I understand the context/nuance is higher prices, but the Obama campaign should not push the increased cost side of the argument as political suicide.
In the last 40 years the republicans have had 28 years to solve our energy crisis and have done NOTHING but make empty promises election after election. If they REALLY wanted what was best for Americans they would come up with solutions rather than gimmicks, offshore drilling and invading oil rich countries. Instead they keep trying to pass off the same old tired ideas they've been running on for 28 years.

Thanks but no thanks MCaint! I'll stick with Obama and his ideas and solutions for solving our dependency on fossil fuel.
Don't knock Mccaine, he knows fossil fuels
Here's what polls well Obama. Rather then crying  like a little girl about the problem, McCain and company have managed to put a proposal on the table. That's what polls well, someone like McCain trying to figure out a complex problem, proposing solutions, and working the details. He's done that many times in his career. How about you? You on the other hand do nothing but shoot down other peoples ideas. Some president you'd make.
There is no energy plan on either side that can exclude continued, and probably increased, use of those 19th century fuels for the near and intermediate future as part of a long term strategy.

Because that dirty segment of the energy picture will represent 75-85% of total energy needs in both the near and intermediate term, and assuming the world's energy needs continue to increase, the amount of those dirty 19th century fuels we and the world need will continue to increase.

We need every element of the long term solution.  Obama is remiss in not informing you of that, but then there is evidence that he just doesn't understand.

Meanwhile, he takes great delight in making political points as he demonizes the industries and infrastructures that must continue to exist, and even expand, in order to meet the real long term needs and to accomplish the transition we all want in the future.

Further, regardless of the advances to be made in our country and other technologically advanced economies, those dirty 19th century energy sources are going to continue to be the main source for poorer developing economies.  

And I still don't see a plan in the rhetoric.  Just McCain bashing, Republican bashing, oil industry bashing and Bush bashing.

Barack O'Bash, politician ordinaire.
Have a look at the Economist's special report on energy this week.  It is interesting reading.

http://www.economist.com

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All together we must reduce our dependency on oil.  We have to think of ways that do not allow us to fall victim to the people who are controlling the oil and making greater profits off of hard working people including the US CEO's.  

I am appalled that we started at 30 or so dollars before the war and now we are 130+ dollars a barrel.  Those oil folks are not our friends and it’s time we have a better plan.  

We are begging them to help us out when our country does not show respect for their people nor their culture.  Nations around us are excelling and we are stagnant due to our lack of understanding of the nations and cultures around us.  We talk tough about them and want them to help us.  You can't get justice down the barrel of a gun and you don't hold democracy hostage to ill will.  Yes, they are taking advantage of us, but our fearless republican leader allowed it to happen and no one is challenging him at all.  I am deeply disturbed that more republicans are not coming to the rescue of America.    


We must police up our nation and it is my earnest belief a republican is not the answer.
I believe Sen. Obama is going to be elected and I'll vote for him.  But talk is cheap.  I voted for Bill Clinton - once.  He didn't get a second vote from me and neither will Obama if he doesn't give it his all to achieve his promises.  McCain offers the average American (those making less than $250,000.)nothing.  Vote Obama 2008  Get r done Barack  
I am SO GLAD he brought up Yucca Mountain...

Where does the nuclear waste go in France?
In the last 40 years the republicans have had 28 years to solve our energy crisis and have done NOTHING but make empty promises election after election. <<--- Heather, Wa

Okay Heather, rather then whining about the Republicans, be a sport and tell us what the Democrats plan is. To my knowledge it's tax the oil companies, build no refineries, build no nuclear plants, and don't drill for oil. Oh, and, be critical of any Republican plan.

Waiting for your answer.
McCain offers the most sensible solution, drill now, but also raise Cafe standards and invest heavily in alternatives.  Alternative energy is NOT ready for prime time just yet, it's about 10 years away, Ethanol is not the answer, it consumes more energy to produce than gas.  The coast of Florida and California has more deposits than Saudi Arabia....

but of course drilling there would offend a few liberals, so a vote for Obama means higher oil prices in the long term, remember Bush wanted to open up ANWAR and the florida coast in 2000, but the liberals stopped him....  The liberal tree huggers have caused this problem
Let me first say,I'm all for new energy but,Were paying 4.07 a gal. Here in NV.I say Drill Now even if it takes awile to get to the pumps.I do believe that prices would fall because,Its supply & Demand.We could still look for renewable energy but,still have oil & gas at better prices.
follow bush/cheney/rove/mccant oil program so oil wars will continue forever OR BECOME ENERGY INDEPENDANT with renewable solar and wind tecnologies and better technologies , nucleur is not the answere NO ONE ANYWHERE KNOWS WHAT TO DO WITH RADIOACTIVE NUCLEUR GARBAGE EXCEPT STORE IT UNTIL STORAGE TANKS DECOMPOSE THEN NUCLEUR GARBAGE POLLUTES EVERYTHING.
Issues like this are where McCain and Obama seem light years apart in their approach. Obama is trying to set a course for the future. He knows that energy prices will hurt for awhile but believes they can be offset  by offering the middle class tax breaks to compensate. Meanwhile he plans to throw real weight behind getting us off fossil fuels.
I don't see any new thinking or enthusiasm behind McCain's proposals. He really just seems too tired to tackle this thing at all.
Tucker Bounds' comments are typical McCain--they don't address the issue.  Bounds tries to vilify Obama by dubbing him "Dr. No to energy".  I say John McCain is the "Mr. No" for America.


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