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McCain: Black's gaffe still in the news

Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:12 AM by Mark Murray

Did McCain lose some of his enviro mojo with the offshore oil drilling announcement? He had a credible pro-environment reputation and clearly wants to keep that reputation, but the offshore oil drilling stance has caused him some problems, potentially.

The Washington Post: "In a speech in Santa Barbara, Calif., McCain (R-Ariz.) vowed to ‘put the purchasing power of the United States government on the side of green technology’ by buying fuel-efficient vehicles for its civilian fleet of cars and trucks and by retrofitting federal office space. The pledge comes months after Obama (D-Ill.) outlined a more detailed and ambitious proposal on the subject, virtually ensuring that the next administration will take significant steps to lower the government's output of energy and pollution."

VIDEO: Newsweek's Richard Wolffe discusses strategist Charlie Black's comments that another terror attack on the U.S. would be an advantage to John McCain.

Charlie Black's comments about terrorist attack helping McCain continue to reverberate. "Obama and his surrogates continued to criticize Charles R. Black Jr., a top adviser to Sen. John McCain, on Tuesday for saying a terrorist attack before the November election would help the presumptive Republican nominee. But behind their protests lay a question that has dogged Democrats since Sept. 11, 2001: Was Black speaking the truth?"

More: "[R]adio host Rush Limbaugh said aloud what other Republicans have been saying  privately for months. Black's comments were ‘obvious,’ Limbaugh said yesterday on his program as he criticized McCain for distancing himself from them. Limbaugh said in no uncertain terms that Obama would be weak in the face of terrorism. ‘We know damn well it's Obama who would seek to appease our enemies. We know damn well it's McCain who won't put up with another attack,’ Limbaugh said.”

To this day, Kerry (D-Mass.) has blamed an Osama bin Laden videotape released on Oct. 29, 2004, for his defeat in the election the following week. And McCain, while campaigning in Connecticut for Rep. Christopher Shays that week in 2004, described the bin Laden video as a boost for Bush. ‘I think it's very helpful to President Bush,’ McCain said at the time. ‘It focuses America's attention on the war on terrorism. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but I think it does have an effect.’”

McCain held a tele-townhall with South Florida voters. "[T]he McCain campaign Tuesday night called 50,000 Democratic and independent voters who live in Broward and Palm Beach counties for a 'tele-townhall meeting' with the presidential candidate. About 4,500 people participated. The campaign says the voters were randomly selected and could ask the presumptive Republican nominee whatever they wanted, though the topics were screened. The event was part of a series of in-person and call-in meetings that McCain is hosting with Democrats and independent voters as he tries to distance himself from an unpopular Republican administration."

More: "The callers Tuesday night were all friendly and mostly complimentary. McCain fielded questions for about 45 minutes on taxes, public education and healthcare. In a nod to South Florida's large Jewish population, McCain vowed to enforce tough sanctions against the anti-Israel leader of Iran and to 'prevent another Holocaust.' He also repeated his call for the federal government to allow oil drilling off Florida's coast."

The Palm Beach Post added, "Sen. Joe Lieberman, an Independent from Connecticut who usually votes with the Democrats but has endorsed McCain, introduced the Republican candidate. Lieberman, the first Jewish candidate to run for vice president on a major party ticket, received strong support eight year ago among the large Jewish populations in Palm Beach and Broward counties. Speaking in a quiet, conversational tone, McCain recalled his recent trip to the Middle East with Lieberman – including a visit to Israel – and said he would do everything he could ‘to prevent another Holocaust.’”

“McCain said Tuesday he wants to show his support for Colombia's anti-drug efforts and a pending free-trade agreement with the U.S. by visiting the South American ally... His staff committed one mistake in announcing the trip, though, repeatedly misspelling the country as ‘Columbia.’ Nonetheless, McCain cast his support for Colombia, its leaders and its people in the friendliest of terms.”

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"...voters were randomly selected and could ask the presumptive Republican nominee whatever they wanted, though the topics were screened."

Typical of the Republican Party: ask what you want so long as we approve.
how would a terrorist attack on the US before November help the Republicans? Haven't they been saying all along we're safer with republicans in charge because we've not been attacked against since 9-11?  Thus, an attack before November, under Republican Bush's watch, undercuts the republican argument that we're safer with them in charge.

Obama is the only one who can trully keep us safe, because he'll restore our international reputation, put forth real meaningful safeguards against terrorist attacks, and finish the job in Afghanistan...i.e., find, capture, and kill Osama Bin Laden.
Limbaugh will be comforted to know this: McCain's rejection of the Charlie Black comment was itself a flip-flop. McCain himself said the same thing about an attack helping Bush in the 2004 campaign. Haven't seen much coverage of that, though.
Which foreign policy adviser is writing the Terms of US Surrender Obama will submit if he gets into office? Probably Albright, right?
I get so tired of these "old idiots" thinking they know everything.  People like Rush Limby - WTF is he. He is a nobody, a drug addict and he suppose to have some credibility.  

I don't believe or trust him anymore than I do John McCain.  The fact is the American people don't need the GOP and their cronies to persuade us on how we should vote.  

The proof is in the pudding and that proof is that for the last 7 1/2 years the GOP has ruined our economy, caused death to hundred of thousands, caused investors/speculators to robbed this country at will...taken our liberties, allow for the destruction of our environment,. caused lost jobs, lost homes, allowed illegal immigration, destroy our reputation around the world, trying to start another war with Iran... responsible for billions or dollars being unaccounted for....causing undue hardship on tax paying citizens...creating a fascist government.

AND WE ARE TO PAY ATTENTION TO COMMENTS OF IDIOTS OF THE RIGHT OR GOP????

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN - THEY MIGHT AS WELL BE ASLEEP, BECAUSE WHAT THEY SAY TO U.S. HAS THE SAME EFFECT...

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Uh oh. I pronounce Colombia, "Columbia." Are you saying its really bad to say it that way? Any Colombians out there care to weigh in?

Myself, I am less concerned with McCain's gaffes than with these goofy proposals he comes up with. None of them seem to be based on reality or common sense. All of them seem to be aimed at winning over the kind of voters who reject Obama because they don't like his funny name. Well, I guess it worked for Bush, playing on fears and stupidity. Depressing.

Hillary said the same thing Charlie Black did during the primary season.  Don't recall much outrage then.  Surrogates in both camps say dumb things.  Get over it Obamabots.  
I'm going to trust a LIBERAL to keep this country safe?????

we tried it with Bill Clinton....
That worked out real well.......
he was more interested in his girlfriend then Bin Laden.....

I shudder to think what kind of scandels will happen in an Obama White House...
‘We know damn well it's McCain who won't put up with another attack,’ Limbaugh said.”

 Hey Limbaugh, we also know damn well that should ANOTHER attack happen on this administration's watch, everyone loosely associated with them will go down. And that means John McCain, who is attached at the hip. These are the same guys who failed to connect the dots before 9/11 so if they drop the ball again, it will be a reminder of all the things they STILL haven't done, like kill bin laden so he can stop mocking Bush administration with his audio tapes. Dead or Alive my A$$ !!!
McSybil supports the drug war? How long do we have to wage this one - yet another non-war war - before we figure out a plant can't sign a surrender.

Despite all of the efforts by Columbia (that's the Irish spelling) and us to disrupt drug supply, coca production is up. How much are we spending for these no-result efforts?
Leadership and making decisive decisions...And Charlie is still around.  When the story broke, I commented that McOld will stall and stall, and stall. McOld will sent Charlie on a fishing trip for about two weeks, then he will be back, supporting tyrants and advising McOld.  This is not the change America is looking for. It's not leadership. Is is same ol, same ol.
9/11 happened on Bush's watch. Even downplayed intelligence estimates prior to 9/11. How does the GOP get off saying that America is safer under them. We are more at risk, mostly due to Iraq and Bush's cowboy foreign policy, than we ever were. If there is another attack prior to the elections, it should reflect that the GOP are nothing but Nintendo warriors with no credible evidence that we are safer. I hope Americans wake up to the idea that just because we havn't been attacked that we are safe. That is how we though prior to 9/11 and that is how the GOP currently thinks.
The "Terrorism helps Republican" from the MSM is simply more of the same old 'CW', no matter what the polls say. You have to look at how the questions are asked...

In the American real world, if we get attacked while Republicans are still in office; "IT"S THEIR FAULT!!""
The only question I have is; what will Bush's October Surprise be to help Mcshame?  Will it be a secretly-American-made terrorist attack, or invading Iran?  Or will he just declare Marshall Law and bring Mcbane in to a Bush-Cheney-Mcinsane triumvirate, the way the Roamns did?  You can be sure he'll do SOMETHING deadly and tricky.
We Americans know damn well that Rush, the Dobson fly and others will say anything to keep the neo-con agenda afloat, a politizied Justice department, Rumsfeld's failed military policy of limited troops, no economic policies at all and an Executive branch that borders on imperialism.
Oh Jerry, it seems the Republicans were more focused on Bills girlfriend than Bin Laden, I seem to remember that the Taliban was just as upset over this issue as the repubs, strange bedfellows, don't you think?
I also remember that it was a right wing terrorist that bombed the FBI office in Oklahoma.
We cling to our guns to protect ourselves from all crazies, including the right wing crazies.
Mcshame and the repugnants have nothing left in the tank but to scare enough people into believing their tough talk will keep them safe...of course it was republicans in charge of everything when 911 happened ...it is republicans who failed this nation miserably in its time of need...and now their kids don't want to die in mommy and daddys war in Iraq...interesting
Limbaugh said in no uncertain terms that Obama would be weak in the face of terrorism.
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Why are you quoting that clown as if anyone outside his faithful audience of mouth-breathers takes him seriously? Obama will certainly deal with terrorism effectively. McCain has attacked Obam for saying he would launch strikes against terrorist in Pakistan if he knew there location even if he couldn't get their government's approval to do so. Then Bush did the same thing. What Obama WON'T do is attack the wrong country if we're attacked again the way Bush and his war cheer-leader McCain did to Iraq.

Back to Rush, FirstRead may suppose he's a serious observer of the political scene who's worth quoting, but here's a typical exchange picked up by ThinkProgress.org that shows Limbaugh for what he really is: a vile hate monger whom nobody should listent to:

CALLER: Hello. I want to know how the Republicans don’t need Christians and conservatives, and they think we’re 30 percent. Twelve percent black people in the population. Ten percent — they claim — homosexuals in the population. Rush, honey, when did 30 percent get to be a small number?

LIMBAUGH: I don’t — I think it’s actually larger than 30 percent. But let me see if I can get your question right. You want to know why the Republicans are willing to say, “Screw you,” to 30 percent or more of their voters and yet Democrats will bend over, grab the ankles, and say, “Have your way with me,” for 10 percent and 2 percent of the population?

CALLER: Delicately, yes
Bush's October Surprise - capturing Osama Bin Laden and putting him before the American people, or, what really happens - he and Cheyney roll him out of his hidden prison in the White House basement, where they've been secretly holding him all this time, to use, as a last resort should it look like the republicans would lose in november 2008.
"He (McCain) had a credible pro-environment reputation and clearly wants to keep that reputation"

Where does this come from???

Major environmental groups rank him at the bottom.
Do your homework!! this man is not a GOP Maverick when it comes to our planet. He is a pro business screw the environment republican.
"Black's Gaffe still in the news"

Which is exactly WHY he said it.
Rove Fear mongoring! This was not said in error, it was not a gaffe.  It was deliberate!!! dah...
Get your duct tape and plastic out people...
be scared...be very, very scared stupid voters!  Is exactly what they want to convey!
NOT THIS TIME!

Rove makes a comment about Obama at the country club...which was absolutely PATHETIC!  Not many years ago...Obama wouldn't have been allowed in the Country Club b/c of the color of his skin!
And Rove's comment brought that point to the foreground!  
What a sophomoric statement...poor Rove had a HIGH SCHOOL moment in public!

Keep it up Rovie...you are doing a wonderful job!!



You are so correct Democratic Soldier.  Why is it that more people don't realize that.  I cannot believe that some people are still going to vote for these gop morons.
This is only the begaining. Mr. Magoo is destined to wander through many weird speaches his handlers will not be ble to catch. His core group is made up of people who are basically playing the game for themselves. Magoo is not sharp enough to gather the best and brightest, he will have to be satisified with the bought and paid for.
The News Hour just had a couple of "experts" on talking about the "new speculators" in the oil market. These new speculators are state employee pension funds and college endowments. The "expert" said the problem is these people aren't only buying up oil, but holding onto it longer than normal traders. He also said these aren't bad people and if they knew what they were doing to the country they'd be shocked. I don't buy that. I think these two arms of the democrat machine know exactly what they're doing.


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