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Nader invokes race to criticize Obama

Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:43 AM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
In an interview with the Rocky Mountain News, Ralph Nader says this on Obama:

"There's only one thing different about Barack Obama when it comes to being a Democratic presidential candidate. He's half African-American," Nader said. "Whether that will make any difference, I don't know. I haven't heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos. Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What's keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white? He doesn't want to appear like Jesse Jackson? We'll see all that play out in the next few months and if he gets elected afterwards." ...

VIDEO: Ralph Nader accuses Obama of downplaying poverty issues.

"Asked to clarify whether he thought Obama does try to 'talk white,' Nader said: 'Of course. ... I mean, first of all, the number one thing that a black American politician aspiring to the presidency should be is to candidly describe the plight of the poor, especially in the inner cities and the rural areas, and have a very detailed platform about how the poor is going to be defended by the law, is going to be protected by the law, and is going to be liberated by the law,' Nader said. 'Haven't heard a thing.'" ...

" 'He wants to show that he is not a threatening . . . another politically threatening African-American politician,' Nader said. 'He wants to appeal to white guilt. You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful. Basically he's coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it's corporate or whether it's simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up.'"

The Obama campaign responded to the paper this way: "We are obviously disappointed with these very backward-looking remarks," Obama campaign spokeswoman Shannon Gilson said.

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A thank you letter...






My fellow Americans:


As your future President I want to thank my supporters, for your
mindless support of me, despite my complete lack of any legislative
achievement, my pastor's relations with Louis Farrakhan and Libyan dictator
Moamar Quadafi, or my blatantly leftist voting record while I present myself


as some sort of bi-partisan agent of change.


I also like how my supporters claim my youthful drug use and criminal
behavior somehow qualifies me for the Presidency after 8 years of claiming
Bush's youthful drinking disqualifies him. Your hypocrisy is a beacon of
hope shining over a sea of political posing.


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me. There's a lot of glamour behind the Kennedy name, even though JFK
started the Vietnam War, his brother Robert illegally wiretapped Martin
Luther King, Jr. and Teddy killed a female employee with whom he was having
an extra marital affair and who was pregnant with his child. And I'm not
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platitudes will be the force that propels me to the White House.


Americans should vote for me, not because of my lack of experience or
achievement, but because I make people feel good. Voting for me causes some


white folk to feel relieved of their imagined, racist guilt. I say things
that sound meaningful, but don't really mean anything because Americans are
tired of things having meaning. If things have meaning, then that means you


have to think about them. Americans are tired of thinking. It's time to
shut down the brain, and open up the heart. So when you go to vote in the
primaries, remember don't think, just do. And do it for me.


Thank You.
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
Ralph, just shut up now.  You've done a lot of good; consumers have a lot to thank you for and we don't forget that.  But you are insulting everybody with this "talk white" s***.  Please.  Shut up now.
For tongue in cheek reasons to vote Republican, please take a moment and view this video.  It the stakes weren't so high, this would be funny.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
You don't hear him focusing his campaigning on solving the "ghetto" problems because he is NOT (contrary to popular backwards racist thinking) running on a platform of "Black Entitlement".
These narrow minded  backwards thinking fearmongers who are trying to scare white voters into believing "they" will take over if one of "their own" is elected, are demonstrating their mindset clearly. I am somewhat surprised (key word being  somewhat) that Nader is among those who harbor these thoughts.
Of course I have NEVER associated the word "bright" with Nader.
Well, I find it ironic that Obama was bashed for his affiliation with a church that preached ¨black power,¨ and now he is getting bashed for not being black enough...enough with the hypocrisy.

Why give telecoms immunity ?
They violated our rights !!
What's wrong with Congressional Democrats ?


From the Politicop:


'...Dems who flipped on FISA immunity see more telecom cash

House Democrats who flipped their votes to support retroactive immunity for telecom companies in last week’s FISA bill took thousands of dollars more from phone companies than Democrats who consistently voted against legislation with an immunity provision, according to an analysis by MAPLight.org.

In March, the House passed an amendment that rejected retroactive immunity. But last week, 94 Democrats who supported the March amendment voted to support the compromise FISA legislation, which includes a provision that could let telecom companies that cooperated with the government’s warrantless electronic surveillance off the hook.

The 94 Democrats who changed their positions received on average $8,359 in contributions from Verizon, AT&T and Sprint from January, 2005, to March, 2008, according to the analysis by MAPLight, a nonpartisan organization that tracks the connection between campaign contributions and legislative outcomes.

Retroactive immunity could squash about 40 lawsuits pending against telecommunication companies that helped the government monitor the telecommunications traffic of Americans without warrants. The telecom industry has lobbied hard to insure that the provision is included in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act update Congress is currently considering.

Nick Papas, spokesman for the House Democratic Caucus, said, “Many members of the caucus opposed the earlier version of this legislation and ultimately supported better legislation that was the product of bipartisan negotiations. Months of hard work, not campaign contributions, earned the support of many members.”

MAPLight executive director Daniel Newman agreed that there are many factors that affect a lawmaker’s vote but, unlike pressure from constituents, campaign cash is not a “democratic influence.”

The 116 Democrats who remained opposed to telecom immunity received an average of $4,987 from the telecoms during the three-year period, the analysis showed.

“Regardless which way the legislators’ vote, the fact is most of them get money from the telecom industry and that buys access even if it doesn’t buy a favorable result for telecom,” Newman said.

The members who voted yes on June 20 received, on average, $9,659 from the big three phone companies while those who opposed the bill received an average of $4,810, MAPLight found.

The money provides special interests with a bigger megaphone, Newman said.

“Who’s more likely to get a meeting you or AT&T, which donates million of dollars and has the legislator’s ear?”...'
Talk about ruining a legacy.  Ralph Nader has done so much good but his last decade has not been his finest.
I can not believe Nadar said this in 2008.  Please explain what "Talking White" means?  Doesn't Nadar realize that Barack is an educated man?  I would hope he wouldn't speak "ghetto" if he graduated from Harvard.  Doesn't Nadar realize that the whole world is watching us and they now see that racism is alive and well here in America in 2008!  How can we want the world to have democracy (everyone is created equal) like America if we think and speak like this.
Guess what, Nader?  Barack Obama grew up white with white middle-class values.  Michelle Obama grew up on the South Side of Chicago, but did her best to stay above the fray.  They live in Hyde Park, an upscale, primarily white neighborhood in Chicago.

Senator Obama has repeatedly spoken to the African-American community in terms of helping themselves and not expecting government to help them.  His last speech to African Americans was critical of the exploding numbers of single parents in the black community.

He has demonstrated over and over again that he is not for government involvement in "equalizing" racial inequities.  To do so would hurt more than help close the racial divide.  He has shown that he much prefers that everyone does and gives their fair share and that nobody gets additional governmental benefit for being successful.  Not equality, but also no preferential treatment based on status.

By the way, how is your Corvair?  How about trying some quick turns and disappearing from the public view.
WOW!! I KNEW NADER WAS INSANE, BUT THIS IS SO OFFENSIVE TO ALL RACES!

SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL NADER THAT HE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE (NADER) IS CRAZY!

HE COST US THE 2000 ELECTION AND NOW HE IS TRYING TO CALL OBAMA AN "UNCLE TOM"

WHAT A FREAK!
Incredible!

Just who is Nadar attempting to appeal to with this rhetoric? Does he think he will pull greens away from Obama with this type of apathetic, and albeit absurd commentary?

Nadar assumes he knows Obama, or shared time in the senate with him. Nadar has become an old pariah. All the greens I know plan to stick with Obama. Nadar is a good man as a consumer advocate, but lately he's working against his own interest with this type of division.


Nadar will be lucky to pull 2 percent. Lucky.
Nader is garbage, and is the only reason the worst president in U.S. history got elected to office.  Thank your lucky Naders, W.  
And you want to be President Mr. Nadar? You can't leave race out of this race can you Nadar. What a joke you are. Now tell me of any "legitimate" white candidate who has made numerous comments and pleas about cracking down on economic exploitation in the inner cities. Name one. Oh, because they are white it is ok if they don't mention it, but because Obama is half-African Amercian you criticize him although he did work with many of these issues when in Chicago. Go away Nadar. You are an embarssment to yourself.  
There's just one thing I'm unsure of at this point: Why do we care what Ralph Nader and Karl Rove think about Barack Obama?
One thinks that if an Afican-american politician is well-educated and well-spoken that automatically means he's arrogant. The other thinks that an African-American politician who doesn't espouse either a Black Panther or a Rainbow Coalition agenda is pandering to Whites. Both of these men are known for attempting to make cartoons and sterotypes out of anybody they disagree with, so this is nothing new.
(But I have to admit, there is some irony in Karl Rove referring to someone else as "arrogant!"
Nader is garbage, and is the only reason the worst president in U.S. history got elected to office.  Thank your lucky Naders, W.  
Nader is garbage, and is the only reason the worst president in U.S. history got elected to office.  Thank your lucky Naders, W.  
Wow, Nader is nuts - no surprise there.  Anybody running for president has to be a leader of ALL Americans - not just one interest group.  This is what Obama is about: not pandering to whites or blacks, but trying to unite us all so that we can move forward.

Nader is trying to divide the liberal vote.  I wish he would just go away.
if nader is the goto guy on race then that means the country is beyond race http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/gop-senator-uses-obama-in-new-tv-ad/
Ralph Nader -- Undercover Brother.
dang here come Nader with his Race baiting.
him i thought would be above such
but if thats all you got   i guess you go with it but its a shame
"Asked to clarify whether he thought Obama does try to 'talk white,' Nader said: 'Of course. ...


A follow up on that comment would have been nice. What exactly is Nader's definition of talking white? Or for that matter what is his definition of talking black or talking anything? What a tool.
This man is so pathetic.

He's gone WAY past his sell-by date.

Doesn't he know the 60s are over?

Sad...
John Edwards ran on exactly the platform Nader recomends and he lost. Newsflash: poor people don't vote. Obama doesn't want to lose, so he is focusing on winning over the middle class.  Obama sounds more like me than either Jessie Jackson or John Edwards did, because neither Obama or I were raised in the South. It's true, I feel comfortable with Obama because I like the way he thinks, sounds, and looks. I agree with his positions and I think he is very bright. I also like his wife.
Even Ralph Nader can be stereotypically ignorant, never thought I'd think that. I'm paraphrasing, 'because he's black, he has to talk black and complain about black issues', this is why Nader will never be taken seriously, and to think, I actually thought this kid was a good man...bull, eh?
I am absolutely speechless.  Ralph Nader whom I considered a champion of the voiceless, now appears (like Bill Clinton) to be a closet racist.  I do not throw that word around lightly either.  WHAT is he talking about?  NOW he wants to go on record spouting his pseudo, quasi sociological interpretation of WHY he feels people are responding to Barack?  It is because Barack talks WHITE???  Exactly what does that mean to talk white???  To speak English?  Why are black people NEVER allowed to speak correct English before someone accuses them of trying to be white.  Like being white is the end result we must all achieve here in America.  Go to Hell Ralph, with you stupid talk!  All your stupid talk is going to do now is get all the stupid, racist people in the country in an uproar.  I thought you were more intelligent than that Ralph.  
Yeah sure,  can't have Ralf Nader telling the truth about Obama.... that would be racist. Just ask Bill Clinton.
You gotta be kidding me.....Need to send this man to the "Time Out" corner also. I cant believe this is 2008 and we have ignorant idiots like Mr.Nader trying to stir the kettel up for their own personal gain. He is like the rest of the neocons - out of touch with the American people.    
Nader another political has been.  Considering his political successes, I'll take his criticisms with a grain of salt.
Ralph Nader who???
Absolutely unbelievable, and absolutely intolerable. I simply cannot understand how someone who thinks he is running for president can say something he's "acting white" just because he can string some complete sentences together. In 2008!
Is it because he wants to talk white?

Talk white?  It doesn't take a rocket science to note that Mr. Obama is HALF WHITE!  Second, because the man has a prestigious education and can articulate himself means he "talks white"!  Ralph we all don't speak in slang and broken dialect that the media likes to portray!  Mr. Obama scares people like you acress the nation, I guess you'll be dusting off that white hood!

Obama 08
Ah, there's no sweeter sound to Ralph Nader than the sound of his own voice.  Too bad it sounds like idiotic yammering to 97% of everyone else.
That's a No Sale here from Nader.
Senator Obama worked in the run down areas of Chicago to help restore it.  He decided he could do more help by getting involved in the government side of the issue.  Close your mouth Nader and go home.  You are starting to sound maniacal in your rhetoric.
Obama 08
That's a No Sale here from Nader.
Senator Obama worked in the run down areas of Chicago to help restore it.  He decided he could do more help by getting involved in the government side of the issue.  Close your mouth Nader and go home.  You are starting to sound maniacal in your rhetoric.
Obama 08
Nader is a racist jerk.
Obama tries to "talk white"? WTH?! He was raised by a white Mother and White Grandparents, what is he suppose to talk like? I just lost any respect I had for Nadar. Crawl back under your rock old man!
The funniest part about this is that Nader said this thinking it would *help* him.

Meanwhile: Nader screaming from the sidelines for the last eight years or so about corporate America has changed absolutely nothing.  So there's that.

And yet there are a handful of people out there, still passing out petitions to a uniformly skeptical public, railing about the duopoly and choices on the ballot and corporate hegemony and blah... blah... blah.  Seriously now: what game are they watching?
New details on Obama and McCain's ad buys helps us figure out where the two campaigns intend to contest the election: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/06/campaigns-refine-strategy-obama-expands.html
What's "backward-looking" about Nadar's remarks -- they're true and timely.  What Obama doesn't like about them is that they're accurate!

It's simply unbelievable how Obama and his camp can constantly use race to their advantage, but if someone else does -- they are racist and backwards!

Note to Mr. Nadar:  The reason he can't do what you expect him to do, is because he didn't grow up poor or in the projects.  Contrary to what Obama wants people to believe ("I was raised by a single mother"), he went to a very expensive private school growing up -- and I'm talking about elementary school, not college.  Obama has had the best money can buy his whole life.  He can't deny it -- it's a fact.

Obama supporters -- read his book!
Talk about self-destruction.  There was a time I respected Ralph Nader but it appears that age, (he is the same age as John McCain), has affected him even more than it has McCain.
Where are the thugs in the Gettho when you need them. Can someone go out and give him some gettho justice so I do not have to listen to him. Or amybe Hillary can take himn on her next sniper fire plane ride and hopefully forget to have Nader covered.
What, exactly, does "talking white" mean? Nader is an idiot.
Ralph Nader just knows everything, doesn't he? Like Bush and Gore are exactly the same and it didn't matter which one won? Idiot.
That is about the most racist thing I have read in a long time.  Shame on you Ralph Nader!
The only thing I take issue with in Nader's statement is that, Obama is counting on "white guilt".  Are there some people who have "white guilt"?  Sure.  Is that sentiment enough carry a black canidate to the White House? Absolutely not!   Obama is trying to be open and engaging to all people, no matter their race, because that's what the President needs to do.  He's running to be President of the United States. It's a big country with a LOT of issues.  Taking care if the poor needs to be at the top of the list, but it's not the only thing on the list... by a longshot.
Ralph Nader....who's he?
The most racist parts of Nader's comment is that he stereotypes all African-Americans as living in "the ghettos" and being mostly worried about "payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead".

But then, he's gotta be almost as old as McCain, and probably doesn't get out much anymore.  Typical old white liberal.
With the exception of his reace comments nader makes some valid points concerning the credit card industry and predatory lending practices.  In the 70s and 80s we had usary laws which were gutted by the congress.  Obama seems to have no position on that and Nader is spot on.  That said, his race comments are out of line. What say you Obama supporters?
Ralph Nader is an Idiot!
You see the difference?
Nader sees "poor people" as black.
Obama doesn't see "color" he just see the plight of poor people!
Appeal to white guilt?  That is just plain ignorant!  I am WHITE, and I am a female, and the reason I voted for Obama has nothing to do with GUILT!  It does have to do with his message, his policies on ISSUES, and his vision for an UNDIVIDED America!
NADER is just an IGNORANT PERSON!!


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