Why is the truth so difficult to accept for MSNBC?
Since Tim Russert’s death, everyone except Keith Ollberman has been anti-Obama.  
Wesley Clark has the military experience to qualify his statement. If Duel Personality, John McCain’s personality splits again, will Duel Personality, John McCain continue his stance to allude to fear mongering? I don’t think so once he discovers the American people won’t buy it. Wesley Clark knows why judgment is obscured in relationship to the impacts of a senseless, dumb, war in Iraq based on lies. That is not good leadership or judgment for war monger John McCain.  


Wes Clark doesn’t need to apologize; Wes’ statement is consistent with John McCain votes or no votes. Neither did Wes attack his service to our country MSM stop swift boarding and distorting.

well, if the McCain camp states that Clark is a surrogate for Obama, then so is Charlie Black. McCain should be held responsibile for the comments of Black that he will benefit from a terrorist attack. Second, McCain should also be held responsible for the racial slurs and anit patriotic ads of the RNC and state republicans. Fair is fair.

God, the McCain campaign does nothing but whine. Do they realize they aren't running against Wes Clark?

Carly Fiorina is hardly in a position to make jabs about character! She spied on her own board and employees and I think she should be in jail!

, if the McCain camp states that Clark is a surrogate for Obama
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voter, he absolutely is a surrogate. He is listed as an official advisor to BO. The BO campaign absolutely knew what Clark was going to say. They got their dirty dig in and then BO could follow up on Mon with "wasn't me" and give his patriotism speech. It's dirty, low down pattern of the BO debacle.  Send out the surrogates and then claim he's innocent. He's a fake, fraud, dirty Chicago politician. I hope you Obamatons are prepared for when he starts telling you "no, he never said that" when it comes to all the freebies you're expecting.

How long until the election? IF McCain and his whiny surrogates think that this is going to be the downfall of Obama, then they are sorely mistaken...

WHY?!?! Because most of us agree with Gen. Clarke!! This was just an "unspoken truth".

Obama doesn't wring the Charlie Black comments into the mud or even bring up the "John Kerry with a tan" comment.. As long as he keeps his cool and not sink to the low level of the McCain camp, this will be a very easy win for Obama.

The only people who need to apologize are the media - but that's never going to happen.

P.S. When did Chris Matthews morph into Archie Bunker? All he can talk about now is working class Catholics and the Bradley effect. How about some variety Chris? You used to have a pretty good show.

Since the McFossil campaign has nothing else on Obama I guess they think they can ride this story until November, huh? We're already sick of it. Being a POW does NOT qualify you to be POTUS. Period. He's too old anyhow. His age is more of a factor than anything. That, and his medical history (including a mental health evaulation if he'd ever agree to it).

What Clark says is true. He shouldnt have to defend himself at all and nor should Obama.
How does being a POW give you experience to lead an entire U.S. Army? It doesn't.
The whole argument is stupid from Mccain. He's trying to twist words into something else.
I think Clark makes a very valid argument that should not be disregarded.

Keep it coming John McCain and his cronnies - this type of non-sense shows how you GOP nuts think the American people are to stupid to see through your BS.

And that how somehow John McCain is better than anyone else and no one can question him.  NOT...

The GOP are a self destruction John McCain machine.

We can just sit back and watch.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA

And now the McCain camp is hitting Clark on HIS service:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/mccain_surrogate_demeans_clark.php

Will this nonsense ever cease?

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Not to disparage Senator McCain's service, and sacrifice of well being as a Vietnam Vet, but why does he reach all the way back to that time, in order to sell himself to us? If McCain's supporters will be honest with themselves, they would admit that, that is what he is doing. OK. Fair enough. He should be able to benefit in any honorable way. He has paid his dues, and then some. G-D bless him.

However, I think it is telling that after the many decades he has spent in Washington, he has no other compelling achievements, to convince us that we should back him with our vote.

Obama's transparency legislation, his support for  bipartisan 'Housing' legislation, as well as, his service as an Illinois legislator, his community work in Chicago, and as a Professor teaching Constitutional law, beats McCain's record in my estimation.

Can you imagine what the semblance of an Obama lecture hall, in the university where he taught? How about standing room only.

WHY HAS MSNBC AND EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET LET MCCAIN GET AWAY WITH AN OUTRIGHT LIE STATING HE SUPPORTED THE NEW GI BILL.

John McCain is stuck on stupid!!!!

If it weren't for the MSM, who McCain calls his base, he would be exposed for the old, out of touch, pandering politician he is!!!!

Mr. McCain, why won't you sign a form 180 to release your military records since you & your campaign are making it such a central theme of your qualifications to be Mr. Nation Security Expert.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks!

There is a tremendous difference between attacking someone for serving his country in Vietnam and being held as a POW during the war (unthinkable) and questioning the record someone claims to have as a member of the armed services when that record may be exaggerated.

You don't have to defend the truth.......McCain get over yourself.  Try living on the southside of Illinois......you wouldn't survive a day.

Well, I think its nice to know that Clark thinks McCain is honorable and a personal hero, McCain surrogate Carly Fiorina told Mitchell in response. I think its crystal clear Clark is a surrogate of the campaign and is responding to direction from the campaign. She called it politics as usual.

Andrea, Andrea, Andrea.....I know it's tough when the producer is whispering in your ear while your interview is talking. But, when Carly said that Barack is "responding to direction from the (Obama)campaign" , the first words out of your mouth should be" what proof do you have of that?
More importantly, under the McCain logic, the 140,000 US heroes serving in Iraq are qualified to be president. As the General said, they should be honored (and thanked)...but they are not qualified automatically to be president. The point is McCain is running on experience...and being shot down, a POW, and tortured is not experience to be president. Obama is running on judgement...not experience.

Enough already with this he said, he said it twice, he said it again, crap! The media is simply trying to keep this stupid story alive and make Sen. Obama look like the villian when he had nothing to do with Wes Clark's statements.

Wes Clark should keep his mouth shut also, unless he is intentionally trying to undermine Sen. Obama's stance on this issue.  The MSM is treating Sen. McCain as if he is the Holy Grail of Politics while using every opportunity to drag Sen. Obama thru the mud for crap he didn't even say and have distanced himself from repeatedly.

I guess for McCain to get some bad press, he would have to eat a baby or something.

Give us a break!

Carry on Wes, and don't let the b*st*rds get you down.

With all due respect, General...SHUT UP!! You're giving this idiotic story legs it shouldn't have, and Mccain's band of swiftboat brigands more fodder for phony outrage.

cutely you place the REAL fact of the article at the very bottom... why does this fact (that Schieffer said it, Clark reiterated it) fall on such deaf journalistic ears?

because if you point out that Schieffer coined the phrase, and Clark parroted it, YOU HAVE NO STORY

It's a good strategy from McCain. Emphasizing Clark's comments have turned the coverage away from Black, which was lingering.

Clark also contended that he didn’t bring up the subject on Face the Nation. “I just answered a direct question,” he said. “It’s like, ‘Is the sun shining. Yes, the sun’s shining.’”

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Neither the crucifixtion of McCain, nor Clark, (who suffered the pains of war with injuries, and sacrificed his well being too), is acceptable.

In the name of fairness, and decency....MOVE ON!!!

Give Gen. Clark a break.

I was hoping the McCain camp would drop this subject but now I don't want them to drop it. The more they whine and make a fuss about this the more they are being seen as whiners and the same ole GOP we are used too trying to put words into the mouth of their competitor, Obama. They are losing and they know it. They are desparate and we know it. So they will use this subject to try and smear Obama and bring him down because it is the only thing that McCain appears able to run on. Keep it up McCain and the GOP. You are falling right into this self-defeating trap.

If I served in the army does that make me fit to be president?


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Wes Clark is right.  I am disappointed that Obama found it necessary to run from this comment.  Many of us regular people had said the same thing.  Why is the media so afraid of McCain???

Clark should defend his comments. If anyone is qualified to critique McCain it would be Clark, or any other retired General with decades of military experience. If McCain is using his war experience as a reason to be elected President then it should be called into question and scrutinized at least as much Kerry's and Bush's experience was questioned in 2004.

It's a beautiful thing to see all the years of lies and hypocrisy spouted by the GOP and their surrogates in and out of the media being slapped down left and right leaving them to scramble and try to save face while attempting to play the holier than thou sanctimonious role of being about God and country. Puhleeze. Broke faces and true moral cowardice is coming to the light and we the citizens are getting a front row seat as to exactly why our country is in such a sad and sorry state of financial, emotional, spiritual, and ethical decay.

We've handed over our dreams and fundamental beliefs over to a bunch of liars and thieves for nearly a decade and for the first time in a long while we are on the verge of taking back that which we gave away to those who are a far greater enemy to us than a people living 10's of thousands of miles away on the other side of the globe.

Continue to speak the truth Mr. Clark and others like you. The John McCains, Bushs, Cheneys, Charlie Blacks of this world are the last people to point a finger of shame at others to be taken seriously.

Clark is 100% correct -- McCain's military service has not helped his judgment on foreign policy and military matters.  In spite of his military service and seeing the realities of war, McCain has a blustery foreign policy -- he puts might over diplomacy.  In contrast, most of  the four star generals (those with command experience, such as Clark, Zinni, etc), usually choose diplomacy before might except in the case of an immediate threat.   To me, McCain has a serious flaw in his approach to the use of the military, particularly in the Middle East, and his service apparently hasn't helped his perspective one bit.

I think this was hyped by the media and botched by the Obama campaign, who was far too quick to throw Clark under the bus.  It's interesting to me that Obama needs a VP with foreign policy credentials, but then undercuts those very people who have such credentials and are making reasonable arguments.   This other point of view is exactly why Obama needs someone like a Clark, Zinni, Webb, etc at his side.

Republicans would have stood by a guy on their side making similar arguments.  Democrats need to learn to stand and fight as well.  Don't cave in every time some Republican plays the patriotism card and misrepresents what a Democrat says on foreign policy and military service.

Chuck, from your comments this morning, I think Obama stepped on his own message.  He didn't need to address the Clark issue at all.  It was a gratuitous toss under the bus and in the end, it makes Obama look too weak to stand and fight beside a fellow Democrat.

Mitchell pointed out, as did Bob Schieffer on CBS’s Face the Nation, that Obama doesn’t have executive experience either.  Isn't it nice that the media isn't biased.

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