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Obama: Some heat from the left

Posted: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:29 AM by Domenico Montanaro

Obama’s “decision to support legislation granting legal immunity to telecommunications companies that cooperated with the Bush administration’s program of wiretapping without warrants has led to an intense backlash among some of his most ardent supporters,” the New York Times says. 

VIDEO: A Race for the White House panel debates: Is Barack Obama taking center ground on issues such as the FISA bill, the economy, Iraq and Iran?

The New York Post: “[D]iscontent is being echoed across the very same liberal blogosphere that launched Obama from obscurity more than a year ago. So much so that thousands of dissatisfied supporters have created a group on his Web site to protest his latest position on terrorist surveillance legislation, known as FISA. Obama's waffling on the issue is so incendiary among his supporters that some 7,000 have joined, according to one of the group's organizers, making it the fourth-largest group on Obama's Web site.”

Per the New York Times, Obama said yesterday “that if elected president he would expand the delivery of social services through churches and other religious organizations, vowing to achieve a goal he said President Bush had fallen short on during his two terms.”

The Washington Post: “Under Obama's proposal, groups could use federal funds only to assist people in need, not people from a certain background or religion. Nor could federal funds be used to proselytize or spread religious beliefs. ‘This is about providing equal treatment, but not special treatment,’ an Obama aide said.”

“[Bush faith-based director John] DiIulio endorsed Obama's proposal as a ‘principled, prudent and problem-solving vision’ for the future of faith-based social service. The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, said he is ‘disappointed that any presidential candidate would want to continue a failed policy of the Bush administration.’”   

As the Boston Globe notes, “Political analysts said Obama's proposal appeared to be part of an attempt to shift to the center and recruit moderate, evangelical Christians and mainstream Catholics, two voting blocs that consistently supported Bush and have embraced Republican candidates.”

The Chicago Tribune reminds us that this isn’t the first time Obama has talked about this subject. "Early in his Senate career, Obama gave a high-profile speech arguing on behalf of a greater role for religious faith in political debate and he cultivated relationships with evangelical leaders. But, amid false rumors he is a Muslim and controversy over incendiary sermons delivered by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama struggled to win over white religious voters in his primary campaign."

“The faith pitch sparked more chatter that he is charging to the political center for his showdown with GOPer John McCain,” the New York Daily News says. “It came a day after Obama went to another swing state, Missouri, to shore up his patriotic bona fides. Obama insisted he was just being consistent. ‘What happens is, I get tagged as being on the left, and when I simply describe what have been my positions consistently, then suddenly people act surprised,’ he said. ‘But there haven't been substantial shifts.’”

The Washington Post writes that Obama secured a discount loan for his home in Chicago. “He locked in an interest rate of 5.625 percent on the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage, below the average for such loans at the time in Chicago. The loan was unusually large, known in banker lingo as a ‘super super jumbo.’ Obama paid no origination fee or discount points, as some consumers do to reduce their interest rates. Compared with the average terms offered at the time in Chicago, Obama's rate could have saved him more than $300 per month. Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said the rate was adjusted to account for a competing offer from another lender and other factors. ‘The Obamas have since had as much as $3 million invested through Northern Trust,’ he said in a statement.”

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Obama is attempting to win the votes by making America colorless and equal.  So, This is a good move.  No special treatments for any group.


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Well, yeah, now is the time for heat, with the election so close. America needs people that will bring it up again. He'd better choose a good vice president, though, and there is a weekly poll for VP's at

http://www.votenic.com
Any attempt by Obama to appeal to evangelical Christian conservatives is absurd.  As a fairly liberal Democrat, Obama's position on killing live babies is beyond the pale to me.  I can't even imagine the effect this FACT about Obama being imparted will have on evangelicals.  He either will have to change this position, or it will be made known LOUDLY by the GOP in the fall.
I like Keith Olberman a lot, yet I understand he is about to do one his famous commentaries about Obama's vote regarding immunity to telecom companies.  All of us like to think we are correct in our thinking all the time.  But this time, Keith, you may not be on target.  Before you get out your big guns, think about it.  Security does trump a lawsuit.  Sometimes timing is everything.  Keith, don't be an old man yelling at cloud.
Senator Obama is being himself and demonstrating his style of government, common sense solutions and compromise to make progress.  While this does not fit him neatly on the right or the left, it places him firmly in the mainstream of America, exactly where the President of the United States should be.  

America has had enough highly partisan fights that lead to both sides getting none of what they want.
This is another example of how a very charismatic man can create a world where, in public, he disagrees with no one, yet in private he pursues his own agenda.  It is sad how easily Americans are dupped.  Politicians are wealthy, arrogant, and almost always self-centered.  Until a little man runs, the little man will go without representation.
Anything "faith-based" sounds an awful lot like the Bush administration to me...  Scary.

I'm not saying that it's bad - just eerily similar.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
With regard to FISA, I'd like to have all criminal actions punished as well.

I suppose there is so much that needs to be addressed regarding the mess left by the Bush/Cheney/Rove gang of skunks, that Obama may just need to pick his battles.
I'm a rabid Obama supporter and have found his judgement to be impeccable, but I was a little nervous about his new stance on FISA. Even Keith Olbermann's Special Comments didn't put my unease to rest.

I will have to continue to trust his judgement and political savvy.  There has to be some method to his logic.

GO OBAMA/BIDEN
"The Washington Post writes that Obama secured a discount loan for his home in Chicago. “He locked in an interest rate of 5.625 percent on the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage"
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That's the exact same rate as I have on my home here in Cincinnati.  My brother has a 4.75% rate here as well.  My sister and brother-in-law have a 5.375% rate just outside Chicago in the suburbs.

It's not that hard to get a good rate if you actually try and aren't a blind ignorant fool when making the largest purchase most people make in their lives.
Go to this web site...read about where the prefix "Mc" is derived..

so if what  does that make John McCain the son of?

This will get the religious right to vote for him...maybe? I believe the Bible...

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp/sId./kbId.94/qx/knowledgebase.htm
I knew Obama would start to waffle once he won the Nom.  If he starts to flip flop on the people who put him where he is today, he will flip himself right out of the WhiteHouse.  The only way he can win the General is not to stab the people in back who put him where he is today.
BL
Compared with the average terms offered at the time in Chicago, Obama's rate could have saved him more than $300 per month.

Its not what rate he got but when he got it.
If he got it when no one else did then there is a issue. Change you can believe in.
I do not mind Obama moving to center.But his support for Fisa is wrong.I like know when standing up for the Rule of Law,the Constitution and the American people became a left of center issue?
The mere fact that Sen. Obama is being attacked from left and right only proves that he's about change. Sen. Obama has the common sense and the insight to know that both democrats and republicans have some good ideas. He also seems to realize that both parties have been hi-jacked by the extreme wings, leaving most Americans without a voice. Perhaps the media didn't take Obama seriously during the primaries when he said that changing the political tone was paramount to getting any agenda and/or policies achieved.

He won me over the day after he clinched the primaries. He declared that the money from lobbyist, big corps and special interest groups were not welcomed in his party or campaign. That took guts.

We need a President that realizes we don't live in a perfect world where we all hold the same beliefs. That's the beauty of this country. But what we as citizens must realize is the fact that we all have the right to the persuit of happiness. And if we're going to move forward as a country and a people, we must keep that in mind.

Personally, I believe the "Two Party System" has outlived it's purpose. We need a viable third party. The Dems and Reps Parties have left most of the American people behind. Neither party wants to compromise or make concessions for the good of the country. I propose that the moderates on both sides of the aisles break away from their respective parties to form a new party. One that values a common sense approach to the needs of our country and our people oppose to what we have now. A government that does absolutely nothing.
   
I will have to continue to trust his judgement and political savvy.  There has to be some method to his logic
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J Ellis, why do you have to continue to trust him?  You already said he's making you nervous.  Did your mother never teach you to pay attention to that "uh oh" feeling?  Obama's flipping and flopping and showing his true colors all over the place.  Buyers remorse is setting in.  Pay attention to your gut feeling, J. Ellis; it's correct.
As a Obama supporter i have to say this, during the primary didn't he say its  time for change, we want change, ok, this approach is about change, to change the way dems approach the general election!! its just not about the black, white, asin or hispanic vote, its need to be about faIth, because lets face it people, we as americans do vote according to our faith!!! the dems for years never addressed the question why evangelicals would never vote demicratic, the dems never would reach out to them, the reps would, the dems were so caught up with the seperation between church and state, that the allinated them. this is what i want to see as a black man and a christan, have we not forgot what MLK said
intill we come together as americans we will never be free!! to the dems who are getting nervus, don't
if we are so concerned about the jewish vote then we should cross all isles to all people!!!

KEEP IT GOING OBAMA, WHAT YOUR DOING IS BRINGING ALL PEOPLE TOGETHER JUST LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD!!!!
My first reaction to Senator Obama's decisions on the telecom immunity legislation and moves to further faith based initiatives is disappointment.  I've supported him from the time of his announcement and will continue.  I'm further left than his positions and realize that but this country's in trouble.  Obama is the best hope for real change.  
If Obama doesn't tell you what you want to hear today, don't worry he will tomorrow.  He changes his tune at least every other day.  Obama doesn't know who or what he is and no one knows what he statnds for.

Obama is a panderer, a waffler, a fence stradder and may be a muslim to boot.

I find myself trusting Obama's judgement. I noticed that he has a practical reason and solution for everything he does. Let's relax and trust him!!
I love the fact that all of you wanted "O" and now that you have him, his true intent is coming to light. I'm also tired of Clinton bashing. the"O" supporters need to get a grip and realize you do need Hillary to win the election. Obama's starting to flip-flop too much which can cost the election in the fall if he doesn't get a strong VP casndidate such as Hillary.............we need a woman in the administration...Nancy pelosi is a joke...
Senator Obama is being himself and demonstrating his style of government, common sense solutions and compromise to make real progress on issues that impact the majority of the people.  While this does not make him an ideologue on the left or the right (haven't we had enough of that?), it places him firmly in the mainstream of America (left of center), exactly where the President of the United States should be to keep us moving forward (i.e. progressive).  

America has had enough highly partisan fights that lead to both sides getting none of what they want and with us paying the price...literally. Get off Obama's back and get behind him. Holding him accountable doesn't translate into child-like tantrums when you disagree with him.

Stay focused Barack.  We've got your back.
IndependentGA well said!
I got 5.625 on a 30 year loan a few years ago, and I'm sure that my credit score wasn't as good as Obama's.  It was a very good rate for the time, and I shopped online for the best deal. ... Sounds to me like a pretty big fuss over someone who's smart with his money.
Senator Obama is just trying to actualy "do" what was promised to be done, and wasn't by the Bush administration.  I guess Bush used his time to set-up propoganda to get the war going and everything else got dropped.  
It is never wrong to help those in need.  Do you want them to go steal?  Maybe use an illegal gun?  Then we can pay for them to go to prison.  Let's have mercy for individuals - hopefully, the help given will be temporary and they can move on to do better.
I have discovered through this campaign just how left I am, but I certainly support Senator Obama.
A quick question - are my fellow lefties becoming as dogmatic as their conservative counterparts?  Only you know the answer.

Obama 08


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