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McCain's statements on the economy

Posted: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:41 AM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mark Murray and Lauren Appelbaum
On ABC this morning, Robin Roberts remarked to McCain: "You have admitted that you are not exactly the expert when it comes to the economy and many have said that... "
 
McCain interjected, "I have not. I have not. Actually, I have not. I said that I am stronger on national security issues because of all the time I spent in the military and others. I am very strong on the economy. I understand it. I have a lot more experience than my opponent."

VIDEO: AAA reports that gas is at a record high of $4.087, yet a new ad by the McCain campaign shows the price of gas as $2.55. The Nation's Chris Hayes joins Countdown to talk about whether the senator is out of touch.

While McCain has never said that he wasn't an "expert" on the economy, he has acknowledged that it is a shortcoming -- which was at the heart of Roberts' question ("not exactly the expert").

"The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” McCain said in December 2007. “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.”

And here's what he told the Wall Street Journal's Stephen Moore in 2005: “I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.”

This isn't the first time McCain has tried to sidestep his past quotes on the economy. At a GOP presidential debate back in January, the late Tim Russert asked McCain this question: "Sen. McCain, you have said repeatedly, quote, 'I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.' Is it a problem for your campaign that the economy is now the most important issue, one that by your own acknowledgment you're not well versed on?"

McCain replied at the debate, "Actually, I don't know where you got that quote from. I'm very well versed in economics. I was there at the Reagan revolution. I was there when we enacted the first -- or just after we enacted the first tax cuts and the restraints on spending."

But appearing on Meet the Press later that week, McCain admitted, "Now I know where you got that quote from. Now I know where you got the quote from... Let me tell you what I was trying to say and what I meant in that soundpiece. I spent 22 years in the military. I spent 20 years in the Senate Armed Services Committee. I've been involved in national security issues all my life... Of course I know more about national security than any other issue. That's been my entire life. Am I, am I smart on economics? Yes."

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What a load lol.
McCain interjected, "I have not. I have not. Actually, I have not. I said that I am stronger on national security issues because of all the time I spent in the military and others. I am very strong on the economy. I understand it. I have a lot more experience than my opponent."

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Diane, Illinois,

See girlfriend? I told you he would eventually flip his thinning wig. Isn't this just so sad?
ERRRRRR... Do you hear that... thats the sound of the Straight Talk Express coming off the tracks... what a complete joke...

If he knows so much about the economy... then he should know that in order for the government to pay for things, including the MASSIVE WAR BILL... then people have to pay taxes... but... apparently he does not... considering he nor his wife pay for taxes on their 7th house in CA...
The President has nothing to do with the economy.
McCain doesn't seem to know shi'ite about Iraq, and if that's something he knows better than the economy...
McCain= the same as the current dunce in chief-----You can't question his military record but boy did the repuke party question several vet's records during the last general election--Senator's Max Cleland, John Kerry,  you can't have it both ways.
While AP, WashPost, NYTimes et al are running frivilous stories about $300 savings on a mortgage, more people are turning to HuffingtonPost for REAL news.

We did not hear anything in the MSM about McCain's tax default in CA.
McGeritol probably forgot he said what he said...his mind is going.  Quick, how much is a gallon of milk these days McOutOfTouch?
Its the Economy Stupid!
Obviously, McCain is unable to smell what he is shoveling.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
Probably just forgot what he said like the 30 or so other things he claims not to have said or done.

He does realize that there is an internet and quotes, videos and history can be retrieved in an instant.

Oh, I forgot, he said he wasn't computer literate.. and a day or so ago, his campaign says he is.  The man has one hell of a learning curve.
Oh the Obamabots on this site are going to go crazy over this story.  We all know McCain's strength isn't the economy.  I'd still vote for him any day of the week against a liberal who wants to turn America into a socialist state.  
How does this genius rank 894 out of 898 in his class at the Naval academy?

Quite frankly, I don't think he's 'smart' on anything.  When you are unprincipled, you tend to blow the way the wind blows.  I don't know him; but what I know, I don't particularly care for.

Continue to manufacture your outrage, it will be one more thing you can outsource to Columbia as "free trade" you pompous twit.

Some people are born lucky.  Some people work hard for achievement.  I don't see where McCain has worked hard at anything.  Why work when you can ditch your faithful wife (who still speaks fondly of you) for an heiress?  I don't want to sound like the contra-Bobbie from Eau Claire here; but he is a low-life snake in my book.
Something about his multitude of incoherent and inconsistent explanations on his understanding of the economy inspires even less confidence than if he had just stuck with his original remarks.

I have a MA in Economics, and this is not a simple topic that you can just bone up on by reading Alan Greenspan's book.

I still find it difficult to believe that this was the best candidate that the Repubs had this year.

Obama 08
I am so sick and tired of the "press" giving McCain a "pass". Obama and his wife have been crucified by the press; but good "ole boy", John can "flip flop" all he wants and its okay. By the way, why don't we hear about Cindy's drug thefts? I bet if it were Michelle, it would be all over the news.
McCain who are you really trying to bamboozle and/or pander to? The supply-side voodoo economics of the 80's and/or the ignorant masses who believe The Gop garbage about cutting their taxes and that the Democrats are tax and spend liberals.
Senator Obama,

You are our champion. Just stay the course,and keep taking the high road. Keep driving home your positions on the issues. The GOP is self destructing.

G-D willing, you will be the next President of the United States. Amen.
If he's THAT GOOD on the economy....
...... ask him about the effects of his gax-tax 'holiday' ....

What, EXACTLY would THAT accomplish, John ?
Would it prevent us from re-building our dangerous roads and bridges ?


How much will off shore drilling lower gas prices, John ? $.20/gallon ?  $.30/gallon ? $.40/gallon ?

How will YOU LOWER GAS PRICES, John ?


How do you feel about property taxes, John ?
Should people pay their property taxes ?
Are politicians exempt from paying property taxes ?

John McCain, More of the Same

If you liked George Bush ......
..... You'll LOVE John McCain !!
Does this guy even know his own name?
"It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says, like dumb! I'm smart and I want respect!"
Does he forget or does he think we're not paying attention? or does he hope that most of us don't care that he answers questions this way? Sheesh
It seems that when the only thing McCain wants to talk about is war and more war you have to do two things.

First, manufacture stories related to Gen Clarke's remarks so he can stay in the news cycle.

Second, deny you have said things, make a stink about how your remarks are being distorted, and go on to the next topic.

The man is a phony and hipocrite but a masterful politician.  The press is buting into it, aren't they?
McOld knows NOTHING about the economy.  That's why he dragged grim Phil Gramm around in the primaries to field economic questions.  If, during the Presidential debates an ecomony question is asked that requires even elementary knowledge. McOld will fall on his face.  Also, if he is tutored everyday thill the debates, he still will not be able to answer economy type questions.  

Also, acompliment to Andrea Mitchell who hosted "Hardball" last night.  She did a better job than Chris.  Why?  She gave her guests time to answer the questions. That is something Chris must learn if he plans to grow and advance as a media journalist.
McCain has obviously taken some lessons from the Karl Rove school of politics: 1) the truth is what you say it is 2) deny forcefully enough and the media will back down.  You have studied well Mr. McCain.
This is why you don't define the specific basis of your campaign until several months before the election. McCain was running on foreign credentials; Obama was running on change. Change, and what it is, is a lot more malleable than sticking to a specific area like foreign policy and having that be your reason for running.

Incidentally, it looks to me like the Wes Clark "flap" was only a flap initially; it has still raised the very important question about whether or not John McCain has the ideas, temperament, and judgment to be president. And it's an argument he's not losing (yet), but he doesn't appear to be winning.
Greenspan's book? Not sure how that would help. In this economic climate, which Greenspan's indifference helped promote, it's like saying, "I've got Custer's battle plans."

He needs to keep getting targeted questions on this--and there's nothing underhanded about doing so. He is undone by his own words (and actions). The Repubs and the McCain camp would much rather boo-hoo about supposed "attacks" on them than confront real issues. It's the old duck & roll diversionary tactics that have become standard M.O. for Republicans. The thing is, it's not going to work this time!

PS: It's times like this when I truly, truly miss Tim Russert!
I find it astounding that the media is finally reporting some of the crooked talk coming from the straight talk express.
What I don't know (which is most everything), my toadies Lieberman and Lindsay - (I call them Double L - heh heh)can tell me.

I was a prisoner of war, therefore I should not have to know anything, and if Obama accuses me of knowing nothing, I will sick my "Swiftboating" buddies on him.

Remember, he may be a M........, and is not very P........, and is (you know)- exotic. (Boy, I am really clever for an oldtimer)
You know, I don't mind a candidate who admits "I'm weak on X issue."  Nobody expects even the President to be an expert on everything.

After all, that's what you have advisers for.  What we elect a President to do is have the wisdom to know - even in general enough terms - what the right and wrong thing are.  Lowering taxes during a war?  Bad.  Raising taxes on essential needs?  Bad.  Spending money infrastructure?  Good!

So with this good general knowledge, a President can work with experts in the field, know when they are being lied to and when they're being told the right things.  They can look at history, and even if we don't expect them to memorize the last P/E rations of the top 5 companies, they have to at least know what is important to spend money on or not.

So I don't mind that McCain says "I'm not an expert on economics."  I don't expect Obama to claim to be an expert on military tactics.

But I do get annoyed when someone tries to claim to be everything, or denies that they ever said they were weak on something.  McCain's blunder here is the "Oh, I didn't say I was bad at that", when he did.  We all admit it - and it would be OK if he just cowboyed up to that and said "But I have advisers A, B, and C that *do* know a lot, and here's why you can trust them - and why I do."

Of course, having Black and Graham as economic policy advisers, especially after Graham's financial screw ups have now lead to the energy and housing credit crisis doesn't inspire confidence.  But neither does McCain claiming he's not an expert, then claiming he never said he wasn't, either.
Does he know? OR doesn't he know. These misstatements are really beginning to scare me. Having had a father who suffered from dementia— I am beginning to see a pattern here. Is it possible that the flip-flopping is only slipping and faulty memory? Remember Reagan!—We found that out later. McCain really bears watching!
UNBELEIVABLE! People are actually committed to voting for this guy? I refuse to think that are country is so racist that they will knowingly look past the obvious shortcomings of an incompetent candidate for POTUS and villify a new and much more polished candidate. This is the 21st century......right?
Somebody should warn Robin Roberts.  If she keeps asking questions like that Uncle Fluffy will get mad at her and he might call her the c-word too just like he did his wife!
McCain is McCain's worst enemy. His past statements contradict what he is now saying to a point where it's not the lie itself, it is the fact he actually tries to present outrage. Who knows, perhaps he really feels he never said his knowledge of economics is limited. Remember, the man was tortured for five years and he cracked like a glass celling.
Another installment of the "doubletalk express"! So he has Greenspans book...has he read it or understood any of it? All of that "experience", what does he have to show for it? Mccain is a fraud and hypocrite.
Is it possible that he really doesn't remember he says these things?

Or is he just a liar?

Either way, it's not good.
John McCain is a NUT and anyone who believes anything he says is a NUTTY NUT.  The only thing John McCain is good at is being POW. Bad son, bad student, bad pilot, bad father, bad husband, and bad politician.
Clouds! Clouds!  There's no such thing!  I'm ready on day one.  
Can you say alzheimer's .......Old may yell at clouds.
McFredo:

Absolutely classic post.
McCain making statements on the economy is like Bush talking about the economy. Do you remember during a televised Presidential newsconference, a reporter commented that gas was aprroaching $4 a gallon.  The President remarked, he wasn't aware of that.

On Countdown last evening, Keith played a McCain ad where gas was $2.55 a gallon. When asked by a reporter when the last time he pumped his own was, he said that didn't matter and he did NOT know the price of a gallon of gas.

It is this administrations lack of knowledge and expertise that has put us in this position.  Do we need to continue with this kind of incompetence.
Ed?  Would that be MR. Ed, the famous talking horse?  Nah, couldn't be.  No horse sense!
Liar liar pants on fire!  Let's see.  We have a self-admitted dullard on the economy, computer illiterate, nothing but gimmicks when it comes to energy solutions, tax cheating, known terrorist associate, poor family man running for the Presidency as the GOP candidate.  The corporate media will continue to prop this sorry excuse of a candidate up to ensure their own selfish interests.  It is laughable how McCain keeps referring to Reagan as some kind of economic guru.  Deficits were horrible under Ronnie and the numbers don't dispute that fact.  Trickle-down economics (aka "Voodoo" economics) were a joke then and are still a joke now.  I know that conservatives get all fuzzy and misty-eyed when they hear Ronnie mentioned but there is a ton of selective amnesia.  Another point of irony is how Mac has to leapfrog the current failure of a president and his daddy to get to any Republican that people can somewhat agree with.  People forget that Bubba was the only one that had a surplus.  The so-called "fiscally-conservative" Republicans ran up record deficits.  What is he going to do at the convention? Play old clips of Reagan giving his "Morning in America" speech.  What a sad state of affairs for the GOP
Oh the Obamabots on this site are going to go crazy over this story.  We all know McCain's strength isn't the economy.  I'd still vote for him any day of the week against a liberal who wants to turn America into a socialist state.  
Ed (Sent Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:55 AM)
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I'm afraid to tell you this Ed, but we've been a socialist state by definition for the last 30-50 years...and it ain't going away.

And I'll tell you what, a "true" capitalist society would give tax breaks to no one...that's residents or corporations...so before you fluff up with this notion that we are a grand free economy.  Guess again.

Does anyone see a pattern here? Whenever Senator McCain is confronted with a quote of his, he becomes defensive and says that he never said what he said. Later he will try to spin what he said to suit his position. If he should become President and approves airstrikes against an enemy, he will say he never approved such a strike. He is the scariest man on the planet.
That is why Russert was a great interviewer, he would have the exact quote so they couldn't weasel out of the question by changing the subject that the quote was wrong.
I don't see where McCain has worked hard at anything.  Why work when you can ditch your faithful wife (who still speaks fondly of you)
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Clara in KC, since his former wife speaks fondly of him, shouldn't that give you a cue?  If she's okay, why are you so bitter?   And do you REALLY think he hasn't worked hard at anything?  Do you think service to your country isn't working?  You just slammed a lot of people in uniform.  Do you think serving in the Senate isn't working?    Or is it only working if you're a 'community organizer' ?  
Gem Clark can make an unartful comment as a surrogate and the press goes for phrasing and not the content. That content being that military service alone does not qualify you for the Presidency.

McCain can clearly state his ignorance on the economy  until now and then he claims he never made the statements.  How is the press going to handle this "unartful" statement.  My guess is its just John McCain let's give him a pass.  
"I was there at the Reagan revolution. I was there when we enacted the first -- or just after we enacted the first tax cuts and the restraints on spending."

Really?  Restraints on spending??  Reagan TRIPLED the national debt.  TRIPLED.  The only tax cuts he put in were for the super rich.

Bush... doubled the national debt.  More tax cuts for the super rich.

McCain...  Hi, I'm the new boss, same as the old bosses.

McCain's plans will balloon our national debt even higher.  By the end of his 4 years China and the Middle East will own most of our country.

But of course that doesn't stop the idiots that whine about "tax and spend liberals", even tho they won't see those tax breaks under McCain.  Their probably the same idiots that run up tens of thousands on credit cards... spend spend spend but never pay.


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