Finally some debate.  The question is: will viewers actually go do the research themselves or rely on these TV ads to supply them with campaign talking points?

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All it takes is a little common sense to see the McCain ad is out there...to assume Obama has NO ideas is childish, unfortunately many will probably believe it without even going to Obama's site and checking for themselves.

Yep, Obama, tax those oil companies which will then pass it on the people. Or, they'll cut back on production and drive the price up more.  Citizens will need that $1000 you're proposing to cover the additional costs! Dumb dumb dumb.

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas…..


‘…a high-roller privilege McCain had indulged in before…’
A ‘High Roller’ ??


From Time magazine:

‘…Only recently have McCain's aides urged him to pull back from the pastime. In the heat of the GOP primary fight last spring, he announced on a visit to the Vegas Strip that he was going to the casino floor. When his aides stopped him, fearing a public relations disaster, McCain suggested that they ask the casino to take a craps table to a private room, a high-roller privilege McCain had indulged in before. His aides, with alarm bells ringing, refused again, according to two accounts of the discussion.
"He clearly knows that this is on the borderline of what is acceptable for him to be doing," says a Republican who has watched McCain play. "And he just sort of revels in it."…’


Viva Las Vegas !!

Let's not gamble with America's future

The Invasion of Iran is McCain's 'Operation Barbarossa'
It WON'T WORK !!
McCain wants WAR WITH IRAN


John McCain, Endless War

John McCain, there’s No Fool like an Old Fool

John McCain: Bomb, bomb, bomb ... Bomb, Bomb Iran

Float like a butterfly sting like a bee.  The Obama campaign is so adroit!  It's like Obama's Ali and the War Gnome's ..... no, not Frazier, no, not Norton, all I can come up with is Archie Bunker.

So he likes to gamble.  Who cares?  So does half of America.  

"Barack Obama will make energy independence an urgent priority. "

Senator Obama, what are your solutions to this energy crisis?

You are nothing more than an empty suit.

Contrast the two ads that came out today.

One is based on the realities of the times we live in and the other a great vison of life in the 1960's.

You have to begin to feel sorry for McCain.  By his own words and actions he is rapidly becoming a dottering fool.

Nice to see my money is going for good things. Guess I should donate again today! Great ad for Obama.

Joe scaborough is also part of the problem look at him clapping at the background. What a Mccain puppet he is. As per the ad. This is a Kapow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Ummm...and if we'd have started drilling 10 years ago?  Does Obama think that alternative fuels and higher mileage will happen overnight?  I love reading the line that he will make energy independence an urgent priority.  Hasn't EVERY politician been saying that now for the past few years?  And I love the "voted with Bush 95% of the time".  Let's see...that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.  It's also a very selective use of statistics.  According to Congressional Quarterly, that statistic is much lower and in fact, McCain over the last few years has reached across the aisle WAY more than Obama.  Once again, Obama is making sure that facts don't get in the way of a good story.

FR -- "McCain and Bush's plan won't produce a drop of oil for seven years"

And this is somehow worse them Obama's plan, which won't ever produce a drop of oil or even 1 Watt of power?

Obama is an idiot.  He can only critize what McCain proposes.  An empty suit with no ideas.  BTW, the Obama concept to end the war spending and spend it on domestic items will produce the same deficits and likely worse because he has no desire or idea on how to reduce spending.  Typical Dem-NO-crat, plenty of talk with no idea of how to accomplish anything.  If Obama is elected the disaster he will create will make Jimmy Carter look sane.  It may cause the end of the Dem-NO-cratic party as it exist today.  

So Barack, taxing oil companies produces more energy how again?

Hang Bush around McCain's neck like a heavy chain and be a Democrat..that's all Obama really needs to do. The reason why it works is that McCain actually has adopted Bush's policies on nearly every major issue except half hearted attempts on alternative energy and immigration.

Yep, Obama, tax those oil companies which will then pass it on the people. Or, they'll cut back on production and drive the price up more.  Citizens will need that $1000 you're proposing to cover the additional costs! Dumb dumb dumb.
NObama
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They wont cut production.  They sell most of oil the get from the US on the world market.  We never see it.  More drilling?  Wont make one bit of difference.  Again, world market.  So we damned if we do and damed if we dont.  Fact of the matter is that oil is a finite resource.  When it is gone, there is no more and we are getting to that.  So how cares if they pass the cost, the price is never coming down.  Tax the snot out of them use the money to invest in reseach since oil companies wont do more then pay lip service to alternative fuels/power.  Think record industry vs internet.  Large companies always resist the inevitable, to the bitter end

Many Obama supporters point towards how smart Obama is. This energy problem though has Obama confused and disorientated. Barack has no answer to any energy problem the country is facing. Too tied in with the Greens lobbying group is probably his problem.

no wonder why that joe the one on morning joe show joe scaborough i think thats his name i saw him on this ad with mccain and bush he also should be embarrased no wonder why he is always pushing wrong things about obama i will never watch that morning joe show again

Absolutely perfect!!! The question for the Obama team is simple, why does it take them 4 days to respond?

I was in PA for my 4th of July holiday and i saw the McCain's Ad for more than 4 times. Obama need to get ready for this kind of attack.

Overall, I think his counter punch is more effective.

Good, I saw the ad that John McCain/RNC has here in PA and it's completely wrong and distorted.

Barack Obama and the DNC has no choice but to come out swinging or people will get lost in the McCain/GOP BS.

I think the DNC and Barack Obama should blast the public with truths about McCain every chance they get.

The John McCain's ad offer not even a thought that Barack Obama has a different plan - but instead give the impression he has none at all.

The RNC is not going to play fair and they are going to deceive and lie; they are going for the uneducated and naive Americans.

GOD only knows how many of them there are....That's why we need to counteract all the non-sense and hope these few people will use common sense and see though the GOP's BS.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA

Yep, Obama, tax those oil companies which will then pass it on the people. Or, they'll cut back on production and drive the price up more.  Citizens will need that $1000 you're proposing to cover the additional costs! Dumb dumb dumb.
NObama (Sent Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:37 AM)
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You're right, oil companies are the reason there is a problem in this country today.  No regulation of the speculative crude market.  An administration in bed with the oil companies and no comprehensive energy plan for this country.

From Forbes:

“While the U.S. oil industry want access to more federal lands to help reduce reliance on foreign suppliers, American-based companies are shipping record amounts of gasoline and diesel fuel to other countries.

A record 1.6 million barrels a day in U.S. refined petroleum products were exported during the first four months of this year, up 33 percent from 1.2 million barrels a day over the same period in 2007. Shipments this February topped 1.8 million barrels a day for the first time during any month, according to final numbers from the Energy Department.

The surge in exports appears to contradict the pleas from the U.S. oil industry and the Bush administration for Congress to open more offshore waters and Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling”.
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U.S. oil companies and administration officials have been telling Americans that the price of gasoline is a function of supply and demand.  Americans have been told to use less, to conserve. Senator McCain (and the administration) is advocating drilling for oil off the outer continental shelf. We would not see results from off-shore drilling for or more 10 years. Americans have been told that there appears to be no real, viable, short- term solution to this crisis.  
While all Americans are suffering from the economic impact of the price of oil, the major domestic oil companies are recording record profits with no windfall profit tax that could be used to cap, subsidize and reduce the price of gas.  There are no plans to build additional refineries to convert crude into usable fossil fuels.
Now we find that domestic oil companies are EXPORTING record amounts of gas to other countries, further reducing the limited supplies of oil we have on hand for consumption.  The export of domestic US oil has added to the ever increasing profits reported by oil companies each quarter.  While domestic oil companies have reported tens of BILLIONS of dollars in profits, average Americans are struggling with pocket book issues, largely the result of the trickle down effect the price of oil has had on a variety of US industries.
Oil companies are EXPORTING OIL to increase profitability.  I find it absolutely incredible that Congress has done nothing to stop this practice.

As the business decision by big business to export oil is clearly detrimental to the U.S. economy, why hasn’t Congress passed legislation to enforce a moratorium on the export of U.S. oil?  Certainly, the supply of oil available to U.S. consumers would increase substantially.  Republicans are pushing for off-shore drilling: we know why they would be against the moratorium.  
Question to Senator Obama:  Why haven’t you raised the issue of oil exports?  Why are you not pushing for a moratorium on oil exports? Why are you not advocating a windfall profits tax or a cap on profits for oil companies with the extra revenues used to subsidize the price of oil?  Why are you not insisting that the obscene profits these companies are making be used to build more oil refineries to convert crude and increase supply?  

The Obama tax credit of $1,000 is less than $20 PER WEEK.  Obama critizes McCain for his proposal to stop federal taxes saying it does not mean anything then he proposes a program that provides less than $20 per week in benefit.  This proposal is stupid just like the one time benefit checks.  None of this provides any long term help.  All of this is the equivilent to picking fleas off a dying cat.

Yep, Obama, tax those oil companies which will then pass it on the people. Or, they'll cut back on production and drive the price up more.  Citizens will need that $1000 you're proposing to cover the additional costs! Dumb dumb dumb.
NObama (Sent Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:37 AM)
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Oil companies worry about one thing...  "STOCK PRICE"

To assume that a company would produce less to make a higher percentage profit is inane.  Not only that but a windfall profits tax would punish a company making a higher percentage even more.  Think before you post!

No CFO in their right mind would cut back production...not in a time of high demand...if anything they will need to refine more to keep up with last years profits.

I love the Bush hugging scene. A picture paints a thousand words. McCain cannot distance himself from Bush et al. He has dug his grave with them.

Unless the American voters like the taste of road-kill, Bush's failed, dead policies will be buried with the repub brand come November. Amen.

DV, CA They wont cut production.  They sell most of oil the get from the US on the world market.  We never see it.

And if more oil is on the world market, what do you think would happen to the price?

People in CA - they just don't have any sense to build on.

LOOK AT JOE  IN THE BACKGROUND !!  I WATCH HIS SHOW EVERY DAY ON MSNBC  !! JUST THOUGTH IT WAS FUNNY HE WAS IN OBABA`S AD

Oil companies worry about one thing...  "STOCK PRICE"

GP - Chicago

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And the company you work for GP? What do they worry about?

AWESOME AD, Obama Campaign!!!  Just for that, I'm going to go donate again.  Awesome.  Stunning in its effectiveness.  Another beatdown.  I love the visual of Bush kissing McCain on the head, like he was the crown prince or something.  Excellent on so many levels.  Run it on a loop.  Everywhere!  

If Obama is elected the disaster he will create will make Jimmy Carter look sane.  It may cause the end of the Dem-NO-cratic party as it exist today.  
An American First (Sent Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:55 AM)
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Actually if you open up a history book, Carter actually inherited alot of the issues he had to deal with and was run out of office by the actions of the Fed's Chairman Volker.  

Economies take alot longer than a year to envelope into a blowout recession like we had back then...you want to blame some people, start with Nixon and end with Ford

The issue is when would we see any results from BO's plan?  He is proposing 2 new taxes, one a windfall tax on oil companies, and secondly a cap and trade tax on utilities.  He plans to keep 15b a year to fund his renewable proposals.  Where does the rest go?  You think it will come back to the consumer?  Are you willing to pay these higher costs for energy for the next 20 years until the break through is made?  Great Britain is already scaling back dramatically it's support for Bio fuels due to the increase in food prices and the fact they actually add to global warming.  BO supports corn based ethanol!  How will he justify raising CAFE standards in Michigan which will adversely affect Ford and GM.  Do we need to raise the CAFE standards or is the market taking care of demand for SUV's and Minivans?  Who do you trust, the government or the market?  Already the government is 0 for 1 on bio fuels.  I may not support JMc but I do know he will not be actively expanding the government.  On issues of privacy BO has proved himself no better than the Bush administration after his capitulation on FISA (I was for the filibusterer before I was for the compromise)

Bring back HRC!

FR -- "McCain and Bush's plan won't produce a drop of oil for seven years"

And this is somehow worse them Obama's plan, which won't ever produce a drop of oil or even 1 Watt of power?
Drill for Oil (Sent Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:54 AM)

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Even if we drilled EVERYWHERE we knew there was oil and it was available in less than 10 years it would have virtually no impact on oil supply or the price of oil.  We have 3% of the world's supply of oil an we use 25% of it. We will ALWAYS be energy dependent if we don't move away from fossil fuels to alternative sources of energy.

Carl- think before you post.  Not ONE economist supports the "gas tax holiday" or offshore drilling.  WHY?  Because they are STUPID ideas.  Offshore drilling will threaten the environment while reducing gas prices by MAYBE 8 cents a gallon in about a decade.  Hmmm, yup, that's worth it.  Get a clue.

I must admit I am very tuned into this election and comparing the Candidates, their candor, honesty and the workability of their promised changes. However the average voter is not so well informed and therefore will make a decision based on the facts they accrued. Wouldn't it be great to vote on the merits and feasibility of securing America's future financially, medically, militarily and internationally!

Obama 08

But what is the proof that these expensive ads really do sway votes?  I think most people have made up their minds, provided something horrible doesn't happen between now and November.  If they haven't made up their minds yet, a commercial probably isn't going to be the deciding factor.

I got an e-mail from a rebup, (one of the 23% who still support Bush), seeking to convince me that dem politicians should be rejected because they are, for the most part, lawyers.

Well, I happen to love the fact that Obama, an attorney, can proffer an argument that is easily understood, and rips through the twisted double speak of his opponents, thereby exposing it for what it is.

Of course Obama does not have a plan for lowering energy costs, as he has stated that he does not care whether gas prices are low or not.

I see congress approval ratings are at 9%

You goofy loiberals can bash the president all you want to, but it is the democrat controlled congress (the WORST in history) that has lower approval ratings then the President.  Nancy pelosi and Harry Reid believe that keeping themselves fed is more important then the American people.

Some of you brainwashed Republicans amaze me in your spouting off of the talking points of the rich Repubs in offices... all at your own expense.

"Drill for more oil!!!"  That's all you can scream.  Even though John McCain admitted that it won't do a THING to affect prices, so have numerous others.

As of March, the latest data available, U.S. oil refiners were **exporting** more than 1.8 million barrels a day of crude oil, gasoline, diesel, jet fuel and other refined products.

Exporting... yet you fools are still trying to support the corrupt Repubs in giving the oil companies even more access to oil fields.  Even though they aren't even drilling on 60% of the land they already have.   You Repubs are too stupid to realize it's nothing but a ploy to make those corrupt Repukes rich.

Just watch... Cheney, Bush, and all the cronies will get millions, if not billions, from the coushy jobs they'll be given by all those oil companies.  Just as Phil Grahm got when he enabled Ehron to screw Californians out of billions.

Obama wrong again.  There he goes again.  Results from drilling could come in sooner than 7 years. If we start now, then it will be here sooner than if we wait until next year or the year after that.  Obama is so short-sighted.

Obama is a panderer, a fence straddler, a flip-flopper and those are his good qualities.

Read his books and BEWARE of Obama!!!!

I was listening to a General Batiste interveiw the other day . He was talking about a plan the Pentagon had worked on for some twleve years to deal with security, political calamity amongst the three main cultures in Iraq, how to keep the peace once we got there, etc. Basically everything was ignored by Rummy and Dickie and Bushie. I beleive they wanted disorder. Right at the very beggining of the war Randy Rhodes of Air America fame, predicted that the war didn't have anything to do with wmd's and that what Dickie and crew were hoping for besides possible total control of Iraq oil, was that calamity in Iraq would help drive oil prices up for all the, now obvious, reasons.  What is McCnutballs plan for Iran and Iraq and how much further would he like to see the price of oil go up? How many more Billions will Americans spend waiting eight to ten years for oil when we don't have refineries to produce gas for a country that, Like Barak Obama has been saying needs to learn how to function without. I drive with Bio-diesal and next year my wife and I plan to install Solar Panels. We need common sense solutions to our energy needs and our bugdetary problems. Let,s put America to work like we've done before, with new tecknologies for energy needs and infrastructure and quit fighting wars that our leaders don't care about winning.

It's annoying to me that the media is trying to make people believe (because perception is reality) that McCain actually has a chance to win in November.  The headlines on CNN that McCain and Obama are neck and neck (regardless of the polls showing Obama has consistantly been above McCain in the polls since he clinched the nomination.  MSNBC's dumb article about pet owners going for MCCain?  Where do they come up with this dribble.  I know they thrive on conflict but even they have to know that something in this country has to change.  If another republican gets elected I will know that they truly did steal the election.  I only know about 1 in 20 people who would vote for McCain.  Even my Grandmother who has been a lifelong Republican refuses to vote for McCain because he supports the war and she wants our soldiers home.  If she's finally smartened up then you can bet most of America has turned on the GOP (gas and old party) too!

Obama is on firm ground here.  McCain's tax plan provides over a billion dollars in tax breaks for Exxon-Mobil, a company that The Economist called "conspicuously absent" among companies investing in research on green technologies.  There is little about McCain's energy or environment plan that makes sense.  It is the piecemeal hodge-podge approach of a candidate who is not committed to making progress on either issue.

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I loved this new ad!!! Short and to the point!Had to watch again to find morning Joe. He's such an arrorgant jerk, he will think the video is about him!!!

Oil production from Canada has soared over the last 7 years, increasing to over 100 million barrels/year.  This increase is so great that Canada has passed Saudi Arabia as a supplier of crude to the US.  North Dakota and Montana are seeing an oil boom expected to equal the North Slope of Alaska.  Has any of this decreased oil prices?  As for the ads, I've seen them since I'm "fortunate" enough to live in a swing state.  McCain's ads consistently fail to tell ANYTHING about the candidate for his positions.  If his platform had any merit at all he'd be bragging about it, not hiding it.

ok ad, but the problem is the media & politicians won't admit that America is not in control of oil prices. HIGH DEMAND IN CHINA & INDIA IS DRIVING THE PRICE OF OIL. THEIR DEMAND WILL DOUBLE IN THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

So even with the extra 3% of offshore in 7 yrs, prices would still be higher.

Our only hope is to decrease our need for oil.

Truth is, Obama's $1000 is the only relief we will see for 7 years.

what are the pro nulcear folks going to do with their poisonous waste that last forever?

Actually truth be told, we all know neither of these guys have any good answers on energy policy.

The long term answer is alternative fuels, though right now we don't even know which alternatives will provide the most efficiency and affordability. The private sector will most likely drive the conversion, and it is now. We're seeing sales of solar panels going through the roof (pun intended), hybrid cars, etc.

The question is how the government best influences the conversion or best gets out of the way.

There's not much either has to say about that. McCain, though sounding pretty feeble on most other issues, has had the most intriguing idea so far with his x-prize notion. Maybe that's a way for government to best influence the action.

"McCain and Bush support a drilling plan that won't produce a drop of oil for seven years."

The Democrat's plan to eliminate the need for fossil fuels is 30 years away at minimum if possible.

If everyone complains about the claim we only have 3% of the world's oil supply and it won't make a difference then why not use the 3% now until all the alternatives can be developed since it won't make a difference either way?

Why do we have to drill for oil when the oil companies haven't even begun to uncap the capped wells they have here now.  I must have missed the point somewhere..................

It always truly amazes me that so many trolls from the RNC get on these websites and say EXACTLY the same lines! You all need to diversify your morning talking points memo! LOL! I just keep thinking eventually they'll get a clue and realize that the American people have them all figured out.  The American people are sick of this crap.  We are informed, armed with the ability to do our own research on the internet and we actually are giving a damn this year.  HURRAY!  A change is gonna come!

Ira,

But the U.S. does have alot of oil, we have billions of barrels off the west, east and florida coasts alone, lets not even mention the oil shale in Colorado and Montana, Canada is sure doing well with it.

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