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Obama hits McCain on bankruptcy

Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:43 PM by Mark Murray
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POWDER SPRINGS, GA -- In an effort to paint himself as being more concerned about struggling families than his GOP rival is, Obama today proposed to make it easier for senior citizens, members of the military, and people affected by natural disaster or a medical crisis to declare bankruptcy.

With record high gas prices, some 438,000 jobs lost this year, and skyrocketing home foreclosure rates, the Illinois senator has repeatedly sought to portray McCain as someone who does not understand the economy and who is out of touch with the concerns of "hardworking families" when it comes to tax policy and other issues.

Prefacing his criticisms with his standard complimentary line -- "While John McCain is an honorable man and I respect his service to this nation" -- Obama then called McCain part of the problem not the solution when it came strengthening the financial safety net for families and protecting people from unscrupulous lending practices.
 
"While I opposed the credit card industry’s bankruptcy bill that made it harder for families to climb out of debt, John McCain was supporting it. He even opposed helping families who were only in bankruptcy because of medical bills they couldn’t pay,” Obama said during his opening remarks here at a town hall about 20 miles outside of Atlanta.

Obama also hit McCain on the issue of protecting people’s homes. “He sided with the big banks again when it came to protecting the most valuable possession that older Americans have -- and that’s their home,” Obama said. “And again, when it came to protecting families who were suffering in the wake of the storms that hit New Orleans -- Katrina and Rita -- Sen. McCain would continue the economic policies that have hobbled families and our entire economy. He would continue to allow the banks and credit card companies to tilt the playing field in their favor, at the expense of hard-working Americans.”

Obama also talked about the “middle class squeeze” many families are facing, and again linked the Arizona senator to President Bush, saying his policies would be a continuation of Bush Administration policies that would create more debt and more deficits. Obama even used a pop culture reference from the movie “Groundhog Day” to make his point.

“A McCain Administration would mean a fiscal 'Groundhog Day' in Washington,” he said. “You remember that movie 'Groundhog Day?' You kept on waking up and the same thing happened over and over and over again."

Obama, who was introduced by a man who went into bankruptcy after suffering a stroke, said that if a person could demonstrate that they went bankrupt because of medical expenses, they would be able to relieve that debt and get back on your feet. He proposed a “fast-track” bankruptcy process for military families that are struggling economically, said he would update bankruptcy laws to make sure people could renegotiate their mortgages and stay in their homes and that he would help older Americans -- those over 62 -- who are facing bankruptcy have a better chance of keeping their homes.

Under his plan, those affected by natural disasters would have a streamlined bankruptcy process and a temporary moratorium on foreclosures.

Obama's stop in Georgia -- his first general election trip to the state -- was part of a continuing swing through red states that he hopes to put in play this election year. The senator has maintained Democrats went wrong in recent elections by writing off the South, but he could face an uphill battle in this state, which Bush won in 2000 and 2004 by double digits. Still, Georgia's demographics and the presence of Libertarian Bob Barr on the ballot are two factors that could help Obama here.

Centrism, Iraq, and Staying in School
Obama spoke for about 25 minutes and then spent about 40 minutes taking questions on early childhood education, school drop-out rates, college affordability, the national debt, his position on Iraq, health care, and home foreclosures.

An interesting moment came when a man who described himself as “an informed Republican” said the accusations by Obama’s rivals of him flip-flopping were “nonsense” and then asked him to clarify his position on Iraq. This launched a long riff in which Obama talked about his progressive bona fides and explained that he had not been changing positions, answering specific points made by some of his critics on the matter of gun laws and about his support for faith-based initiatives. He accused doubters of cynicism, a theme that comes up in his speeches. (He often asks people to ignore the cynics and to come together for change.)

“One of the things that you find as you go though this campaign, is everybody has become so cynical about politics that the assumption is that you must be doing everything for political reasons,” he said. “The message I want to send everybody is: You’re not going to agree with me on 100% of what I think, but don’t assume that if I don’t agree with you on something that it must be because I’m doing that politically. I may just disagree with you. But we can agree on 90% of the things that are important and on those 10% we will agree to disagree.”

He repeated his stance on beginning a phased withdrawal of combat forces from Iraq that would get troops out within 16 months, and said critics who think that means a precipitous withdrawal or a surrender are wrong.

“Assuming that I take office in January, then that means that we would have our -- we would still have our troops there for about two more years from now. There’s nothing rushed about that," he said. "At that point we will have been there for seven years. So when I hear John McCain saying ‘We can’t surrender. We can’t wave the white flag’ Nobody’s talking about surrounding. We’re talking about common sense. We cannot be there forever."

And he repeated his promise to end the war, saying: "I am going to bring this war to an end. So don’t be confused. I will bring the Iraq war to a close when I am president of the United States of America.”

The presumptive Democratic nominee really played to his audience, which was about 95% black and cheered and applauded throughout the event. He talking about parental responsibility, especially fathers needing to be involved in their children’s lives -- a subject he often addresses when appearing before black audiences. He also spoke about the importance of staying in school in a way that seemed particularly aimed at young black men.

“You can’t find a job, unless you are a really, really good basketball player which most of you brothas are not. I know you think you are , but you’re not,” he said to murmurs and laughter in the crowd. “You are over-rated in your own mind. You will not play in the NBA. You are probably not that good a rapper. Maybe you are the next Lil’ Wayne, but probably not, in which case you need to stay in school.”

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What a joke, Obama. For unemployed, those with large medical bills or crisis, the bankruptcy laws are already in place. But, let's open up the gates and let whomever wants declare bankruptcy.  Typical for you, Obama, that people don't have to take care of their responsibilities and take ownership for their poor choices. In addition, the credit industry is already in serious trouble due to housing crisis. Put some more strain on them with unnecessary bankruptcies and see what happens. Obama has no brain to see the ripples that changes in the economic system cause.
There's something funny about Obama trying to make it easier for senior citizens to declare bankruptcy when running against a senior citizen who has teetered on campaign bankruptcy since originally laying off staff last summer.
Barack Obama has come up with a good plan considering there will be many more bankruptcies under his administration then if McCain were in office.
You can't judge McCain on his record anyway because he's run so dramatically to the right.  All I can say is that a vote for the GOP is a vote for the Gas and Oil Party!  A vote for Obama is at least a vote for a new direction.  At this point most Americans are willing to vote for anyone who is willing to change policy from the Bush White house.  America is not buying what the GOP and the zelots are selling anymore.  0% growth for the average family over the last 8 years.  Increased debt for the country and its average citizen.  Oh wait!  There are more millionaires and multimillionairs than ever though!!!  Plenty of contributors to the Gas and Oil party out there. This election will be a true test to see if democracy still exists in this country.  
Barack Obama, the man who would surrender in Iraq, now finds more ways for Americans to fail. The man just doesn't get it.
Finally, the Obama campaign is focusing on McCain's voting record and making it an issue in this campaign.  What took so long?

Senator McCain has a 26 year voting record which includes, but not limited to, voting against environmental issues, middle class benefits and subsidies, veterans benefits and women's rights.
He is against all bail-outs, includig helping homeowners that were the victims of predatory loans.  He's rather see them lose their homes than offend the lending institutuions.

His voting record is the reason  he has had to flip-flop on so many issues.  His record would never pass the test of public scrutiny. That's why he is running from it.

McCain is an agent for big business.  Look at his record, his advisors and his policies.
The bankruptcy bill that McCain supported was written by the banking and credit card industry during Republican rule.  The let them eat cake attitude of Mr. McCain and his Republican Senators( and some democrats) truly shows his intent. Talk about change but push through legistation that hurts the middle class and elderly.  Way to go "Herbert Hoover" McCain.
You need a Philadelphia lawyer now to fill out your taxes. Apparently you're going to need, but not be able to afford one, if you ever go bankrupt.
Exactly!  That bankruptcy bill was written for and by the predatory credit card companies and lenders and we are all paying the price.  As soon as my children left high school, they were getting several "offers" from credit card companies.  They didn't bite due to an agreement that we had regarding their finances in college.  

These companies are as responsible for the problems as the people they accuse of being deadbeats.  Time for them to have to deal with the pain they have caused others.
Excellent !!
The Bankruptcy Bill of a few years ago was an ABOMINATION !!

It was special interest legislation for the banks and financial institutions

Let's also put limits on interest rates
30% is highway robbery !!
It's the way credit card companies keep people in debt (and bondage)

Enough !!

Obama/Edwards '08
Why not our BEST ?
And with this proposal, Obama completely abandons the concept of personal responsibility.
I love Barack Obama. Keep telling us the truth Senator. His detractors cannot possibly read, or listen to what the man has been saying.

I could better understand them if they disagreed with his ideas, but didn't bring forth their arguments with such vitriol.

In my opinion, his Presidency is the best thing that could happen to America, and the world.

His vision is clear. His heart is pure. I hope Biden will be at his side amongst the 70,000 in Denver. Biden is the bomb. (That's from a 56 year old married woman).
Barack has earned my vote. I just bought a $800K home I can't afford, I'm $50K behind in my credit card payments, and it's someones elses fault.
.....and by the way.  The families of some our soldiers fighting in Irag and Afghanastan are facing foreclosure on their homes. Many are National Guard who had to give up their jobs and salary when they went were called up.  Their families cannot make it on military salaries.  There is no government relief and these men and women can't come home to "talk" to their lenders.

McCain is against a bailout for these families.

He can run ads and talk about being in the military and a POW.  Honorable service.  Today's John McCain could care less about today's veterans.
My spouse is an estate attorney and I can tell you that the solo practice business skyrocketed just before the new bankruptcy laws went into effect because of the onerous new laws that were coming in.

But I'm going to have to slightly disagree with Senator Obama even though I support him 100%. I disagree that he didn't provide full disclouse that the people who helped write the bakruptcy laws
were people who were lobbying for the credit card firms and are now tangentially attahced to Senator McCain's campaign (people like former Senator Phil Gramm who is a vice chair for UBS, the same firm that was against mortgage relief legislation)
That's it. Yes Barack Obama - that's all we need to do is tell the truth.  

While the RNC/GOP slander and lie about Barack Obama and play "old politics" the new generation of Americans - the 30 million plus of us will listen to Barack Obama tell us why John McCain is like George Bush and how John McCain will be the same as his political tactics'  "old and out dated".

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
I am tired of bailing people out of trouble who spend more than they make. They should run for congress.
I do not think a fast track bankruptcy is the answer for credit card debts. This morning on CNN, a lady was asking what to do about $65,000. in credit card debt, should she take bankruptcy.  How did she get that much in debt and then take bankruptcy.  I bet we all would love to have $65,000 dollars worth of "stuff" and not have to pay for it.  I think if this man gets into office "WE WILL BE IN A DEPRESSION!"  You just can't let people run up bills and heavy debt and give them an out. She knew what she was doing. Companies can not stay in business if we are going to let it be okay to do that.  The only people who should be allowed , should be medical illness debt and military personel who have no other recourse.  We really need to be careful, if its that easy, there will be mega abuse.
ah, nuance.

how refreshing.
Sounds like a good speech.....I wouldn't be surprised if he were to win Georgia.
SO, today we're back to 16 months. Whiplash yet?
Many years ago our high school principal gave a speech like Senator Obama. He told us that our chances of playing professional sports was like winning the lottery...one in a bezillion. He told us to stay in school and I did, eventually becoming a physician.
    On the way home from that parent-teacher conference I asked my father what was the difference between Democrats and Republicans. He told me the Democrats were for the "little guys" and the Republicans were for the "big guys". I don't think much has changed in nearly 50 years....the Democratic candidate is still looking after the disadvantaged and the Republican candidate is still protecting the wealthy. The G.O.P. has no heart.....it is all about MY Money (it is hard-earned and you are not getting any of it), MY Family (yours needs to get jobs and work harder), and MY Religion (yours is a cult).

McCain's voting record mentioned by Senator Obama shows a sheer contempt for suffering people.  The same kind of contempt that McCain showed for his own disabled first wife.  
I have a very difficult time understanding how a man who came back injured and disable from the war, that you would assume had developed more empathy for the disabled, ended his marriage to a disabled woman.  I don't care what a hero he was to this country, if he was, but he certainly was no hero to his own family.  
McCain has demonstrated contempt for his own family and now for the middle-class families of America!

I have heard minister's repeatedly say that "your private life affects your public life"--especially in reference to President Clinton--well now the same does and will apply to John McCain. His private life is a sad reflection on values.

Not only did john mcshame help pass a bill that greatly benefitted the credit card companies but he is also carrying the water for the mortgage industry and banks who want bailouts on your backs.

its obvious, mccain loves America but hates Americans
I am tired of bailing people out of trouble who spend more than they make. They should run for congress.
Larry IN. (Sent Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:19 PM)
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.....and by the way.  The families of some our soldiers fighting in Irag and Afghanastan are facing foreclosure on their homes. Many are National Guard who had to give up their jobs and salary when they went were called up.  Their families cannot make it on military salaries.  There is no government relief and these men and women can't come home to "talk" to their lenders.

McCain is against a bailout for these families.

He can run ads and talk about being in the military and a POW.  Honorable service.  Today's John McCain could care less about today's veterans.
These companies are as responsible for the problems as the people they accuse of being deadbeats.  Time for them to have to deal with the pain they have caused others.
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So tired of Ignorance: You're ignorant. NOBODY forced those people to take credit cards or to use them. Every person that files bankruptcy on them, makes credit cost more for those who do it right!  But, again, that fits with Obama. If you're stupid enough and do things right, go ahead; there'll be LOTS of people slacking waiting on your handouts....and 50% of your income from taxes you're going to pay.
There is no government relief and these men and women can't come home to "talk" to their lenders
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Research, Ira. The Soldiers and Sailors Act gives them relief while on active duty during war.
Sure liberals, make it harder on the banks and credit card companies. Then you'll whine when you can't get cheap credit anymore. It all comes down to working hard and paying your bills, two things very foreign to liberals.
It's amazes me every time I read these posts, and realize how many suckers are out there believing every word Obama speaks. His actions speak much louder, and those are the actions of a far left, partisan Senator who does not have the experience to be president. Hopefully some of you people wake up before we're stuck with this guy for 4 years.
When it comes to personal responcibility, Liberals have always been a yard shy of a first down.  Obama will make that gulf even wider.
John McCain truly has "lost his bearings" if he thinks we are gullible enough to believe that he can balance the budget while still at war on two fronts, and beating the Iran drums every chance he gets.  IT WON'T HAPPEN, JOHN!  Meanwhile, the nation continues to tread water while in debt up to our eyeballs to the Chinese.  So what exactly would we have to look forward to with John McCain in charge?  More tainted food, tainted toys, and tainted medicine?  I'll pass, thanks.

any chance Charlie Gibson, Katie Couric, et. al. might actually ask McCain "Why are you in favor of American children suffering for corprate profits, sir?"

Nope, didn't think so...
       
Im not sure if im listening to the same person that some of you are, i havent heard him change his position on Iraq in the slightest. I really dont get these people that grab onto media spin and make it out to seem like they can tell or they are hearing the same differences, since there isnt any! get over it! And to all these poeple that say there are already laws in place for medical reasons to go bankrupt or that we shouldnt bail out those that get over there heads, I would doubt that he would present major policy about it if it was already perfectly in place and he hasnt said anything about bailing out people that just get in over their heads, if you would just freakin read !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama/Biden 08
Finally, the Obama campaign is focusing on McCain's voting record
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Well, Ira at least McCain HAS a voting record.  130 present votes don't count for BO!
What about CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY???  MBNA wrote a bankruptcy bill (true, check your facts!) not too long after they got the interest rate regulations dropped.  Now we have sky rocketing interest rates, massive job loss, and the Republibums out there insist that any change to this situation amounts to an abdication of personal responsibility!!  Talk about poor brainwashed soles...
yeah i saw his speach today and it was great.  this was his best economic speech yet.  and mccain cant even run a proper campaign and he said he wasn't good on the economy so since he doesnt know much about the economy that means that he doesnt know much about the economy stupid

McCain camp throws out 61 yr old women from event
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/mccain-camp-throws-a-61-yr-old-lady-out-of-his-event/
or

http://sensico2.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-blogs.html
Alan Jordan:  NO, it is you who just doesn't get it.

Try reading some facts before mouthing off.
For those of you who don't remember, the Republican led Congress passed laws written by banks and credit card companies that made it far more difficult for individuals to file for bankruptcy protection.  But the law made filing for Bankruptcy much easier for corporations.  That vote, which McCain supported, says much more about how much McCain feels the pain of hard working Americans than does his current day rhetoric!
People have to be responsible for their own lives. People should expect the government to bail them out because of their mistakes. Obama would like to see a socialist government.  Why should the government bail out the housing crisis, the people losing their homes knew what they were doing. I believe the government should stay out of the housing business and let the people and the banks work it out. Maybe housing prices will return to would they should be.  During the past 8 to 10 years the values of homes jumped to high to fast and everyone knew the bubble would go bust.  Now they expect the taxpayers to bail them out. When are we going to quit depending on the liberal politicans and be responsible for ourselves.
Im still waiting for my check from Obama to help pay off my debts, since he was helping Hillary pay of her's, what's stopping him from helping him pay off mine.
I love how most the people here are talking about bankruptcy like it's a vacation from debt.  

This isn't a handout, it's a renegotiation of debt. People aren't always getting debt wiped clean and starting over, they are getting a chance to catch up on existing debt. Most of the financial institutions and predetory lenders that handed out the bad debt in the first place would be the ones getting hit.

So.... the individuals that go bankrupt are marked for their poor credit status for 7-10 years...and the lenders get smacked for the bad-debt they helped create. This helps protect those who don't have a choice in their loss (hurricane, flood, medical condition)

And do you think the creditors will be a little more stringent on the ratio of debt to lending if they had as much to lose?  You bet they would.  

Bankruptcy isn't a badge of honor either...it's a last resort...if you want to come down on this institution lets see you give that Social Security check back when it comes time to retire.  That's another form a government help for those who have meager financial means
I bet we all would love to have $65,000 dollars worth of "stuff" and not have to pay for it.

Carol
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Most people with huge debt are not surronded by tons of loot.  Most of the time it is from late fees, finance charges and overage charges.  They can mount from hundreds to thousands a month with no way to catch up.  Most of the time the are charges for medical expenses, food, gas.  
I think if this man gets into office "WE WILL BE IN A DEPRESSION!"
Carol
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Oh we may, but it wont be his doing.  It will be fallout from the Bush administration.  Obama will be the one left having to solve the problems.  See FDR.  Learn history.
I find it funny that people would attack Obama on this considering MCCAIN is the one who has a storied history with people loosing money, "Home savings and loans Scandal" ring a bell.  This Maverick, has been taking money from people since the eighties.
I listened to this speech and what I did not know was that if you have two homes like a home and a vacation home, you can keep your vacation home?  Hello, hello, how many people actually have two freakin' homes?  Heck, I'd say 90% of americans are lucky if they even have one.  What a crock, just another way of helping the rich do o.k.
...the Illinois senator has repeatedly sought to portray McCain as someone who does not understand the economy...
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That's pretty easy to do since McCain himself said he didn't know much about economic issues (before he denied saying what he said).
Man, I'm starting to come around to Obama.  He's making it pretty easy for me to retire at the age of 44 and still live the good life.  Where do I sign up for all the free stuff?  Free health coverage, free groceries, free gas/electricity/cable, free education for my children, someone to pay off my debt.  I'm sorry to have ever doubted that you were "The Chosen One."  You just bought my vote, Obama!  
There is no government relief and these men and women can't come home to "talk" to their lenders
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Research, Ira. The Soldiers and Sailors Act gives them relief while on active duty during war.
NObama (Sent Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:59 PM)
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Read the Soldiers and Sailors Act.  It does not apply to all active military personnel in a combat zone.

Try again.

Ok liberals no offense but STOP IT. My fmaily total makes 98,000 a year. I know this is a good amount, not millions but I am not struggling. I am still living just fine with pleanty of money left over, should I contribute that to the President?

Why should people who have responsibility get a free pass? So someone who mkaes 50K a year bought a 580,000 dollar house. I call that stupidity! Stop blaming everyone else and take some credit for your own decisions. Or when in doubt just blame someone else.


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