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Bill Clinton addresses governors

Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:36 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
PHILADELPHIA -- Former President Bill Clinton journeyed to the "center of wonkdom" this afternoon, as he spoke to current and former governors about the challenges America faces and potential solutions to them -- with climate change among the most pressing.

Invoking the founding fathers’ idea that the states were meant to be “laboratories for democracy,” Clinton also spoke of how governors tend to have greater capacity to move “beyond party to policy” and work simply to “close the gap between what is and what ought to be.”

“I used to tell people that I loved going to the Governors Association, because it was a center of wonkdom,” Clinton said in his keynote address to the National Governors Association meeting here. “On occasion when I was the governor of Arkansas, we would be the first state to do something. But I was always just a little prouder if we were the second state to do something, because it meant that the founders’ idea was being honored.”

Clinton referred to presidential politics only in passing, at one point saying he was “really proud” that the Democratic Party's “surviving candidates where an African American and a woman.” Later, while discussing immigration reform, he said he was “very encouraged by what has been said by the apparent nominees of both parties.” Clinton was on hand through the auspices of his presidential foundation, and therefore was prohibited from delving too deeply into politics, a spokesman said.

Instead, he focused on three “profound challenges” he said governors can help address -- inequality, identity, and climate change. And speaking about the latter, he noted that President Theodore Roosevelt called the nation’s governors together for the first time 100 years ago to discuss just that topic.

“We have to deal with inequality, we have to deal with identity, we have to deal with energy,” Clinton said. “If we do, we’re about to go into the most exciting period in human history. If we don’t, in the words of President Roosevelt, dark will be the future.”

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Even if he doesn't mention Obama by name, he could have steered his comments away from himself, as Governor of Arkansas, towards the key planks of Obama's message, namely change and Washington-malaise.

The fact that he didn't speaks volumes about why Obama must not select Hillary as his running mate.  Bill will always be the "background President" to Obama's "actual President".

Obama's rise is doubly impressive in that he had to compete against BOTH Clintons and ONE McCain.

Yes We Can! (without HRC & WJC)
You know what I liked best about President Bush the 1st when he left office in '92? When he left, he was done. Same with Ford and Reagan. For some reason, Democratic presidents need to mug for the cameras and be the center of some kind of self proclaimed "Great Cause" once their presidency is over. Writing a book and going to some funerals doesn't seem to be good enough for them. They (Carter, Clinton) look ridiculous trying to continue to look important.
Invoking the founding fathers’ idea that the states were meant to be “laboratories for democracy,” Clinton also spoke of how governors tend to have greater capacity to move “beyond party to policy” and work simply to “close the gap between what is and what ought to be.”

-Pres. Bill Clinton

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Sounds wonderful.

If the states are laboratories, then Congress is a Petri dish mostly growing gridlock.
That’s strange. He’s prohibited from delving too deeply into politics, but, yet mentions his wife’s name again.
The best thing I can say about Bill Clinton is that he was too busy screwing up Rubenesque interns to screw up the country.  The Republican Congress kept him at bay when he did get a little focus.  In other words, the best thing to happen to Bill was the Republican congress.  The best thing to happen to the country was his libido for the pleasantly plump.
"Apparent nominees" indeed! Still a begrudging attitude to Obama.  Considering that Hillary's side is now virtually begging to be helped with debt, this continues to be an unseemly response from Bill Clinton.
Bill please leave the country for a year.
..."dark will be the future".

A perfect leadin for a bit on climate change.

Pope Benedict XVI said Saturday he wants to wake up consciences on climate change during his pilgrimage in Australia.

ABC News' Mary Bruce Reports: Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, R-Calif., spoke out against President Bush this morning attacking his administration for its failure to counter global warming emissions. ‘They just didn't believe in it or they didn't believe that they should do anything about it, since China is not doing anything about it and since India is not willing to do the same thing, so why should we do the same thing?" Schwarzenegger said.

"We don't wait for other countries to do the same thing. That's what makes America number one.  And I think we have a good opportunity to do the same thing, also, with fighting global warming," he said.

The Bush administration has decided not to take any new steps to regulate greenhouse gas emissions before the president leaves office, despite pressure from the Supreme Court and broad accord among senior federal officials that new regulation is appropriate now.

The Environmental Protection Agency announced that it will seek months of further public comment on the threat posed by global warming to human health and welfare -- a matter that federal climate experts and international scientists have repeatedly said should be urgently addressed.

The Supreme Court, in a decision 15 months ago that startled the government, ordered the EPA to decide whether human health and welfare are being harmed by greenhouse gas pollution from cars, power plants and other sources, or to provide a good explanation for not doing so. But the administration has opted to postpone action ignoring the Supreme Court ruling.

No public or Congressional outrage.  No Congressional hearings. Not a word about it from either candidate. Largely ignored by mainstream media.  Another example of the Bush administration, in flagrant violation of the law getting a free pass.

What else should we expect from an administration that has no respect for the rule of law or the value of life? What else can we expect from a Congress that has immunized the President from prosecution? What else can we expect from a media obsessed with “gotcha” stories?
Re: Obama on our energy crisis....

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Ira asked ........

What short-term solutions do you have to relieve the pain at the pump? We need something to fill the gap between the development of alternative fuel sources and the problems of today.  Something like modernizing existing refineries to increase capacity and supply and building new refineries.

In this case, I want to hear the specifics and not the rhetoric.
Ira, Freehold, NJ (Sent Friday, July 11, 2008 4:41 PM)

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There are no short term solutions. Obama has said as much as well. Oil refinery modernization will take time. Big Oil hasn't done it in order to keep their profits off the charts, and would have to be pushed to it by an act of Congress, if thats at all possible. Your suggestion equals tons, and tons of time.

We are in trouble because of the lack of prudence President Carter called us to, and was rejected in the 70's. We are suffering the consequences of our intemperate actions.

Our highways look like no other in this world, with our 30 gallon tanks spewing carbons into the air. My silvergray 'Explorer', (I needed the extra space for my business), sits until I absolutely have to go out in order to conduct business. I'm doing a lot more over the phone, the internet, through the mail, and shipping.

I'm older, am walking more, and needed to anyway.

Patience, now, and adaptation is what we have allowed ourselves to be forced to pull from our better selves.

Here's a sincere tip for investors. Put your money in bicycles, mopeds, motorcycles, and tennis shoes.

Peace to you all.
donna (Sent Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:10 PM)

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Donna:
You are one of the few posters that I look for on a daily basis.  Good, common sense posts with an understanding of the facts. On this issue, I respectfully disagree.

While you are correct in saying that this country has ignored the energy crisis for almost 40 years it does not explain the price of oil today.

The U.S. has an adequate supply of oil on hand.  The problem is our refineries are NOT operating at full capacity.  Additionally, oil companies have CLOSED some refineries. Why?  If the can manage to keep supply at current levels, they can keep prices at these levels also.

The U.S. is EXPORTING oil at record levels.  That’s right, domestic oil companies are shipping refined oil overseas. Huge profits, why not.  Why hasn’t the U.S. Congress imposed a moratorium on oil exports?  Answer: Too any oil men in Congress and the administration.  Remember, the Bush family made their money in oil.

Finally, oil is being traded as a commodity, like a stock. It is unregulated.  As such, stock traders and hedge funds can buy oil futures and trade them with the intent of making a profit.  Speculators have artificially raised the price of crude; some say by as much as $30 a barrel. By the way, crude became deregulated when Phil Gramm’s wife, Mary, was in charge of the CTFC, a futures regulatory commission. Funny coincidence.

So, we can’t blame everything on the American public insatiable appetite for oil.  A whole lot has to do with big business and deregulation which makes it easier for big business to increase profits at the expense of every American.
No substance; nothing to comment about!
With the cameras rolling, he wasn't going to say very much anyway.
What a hyppocrite. He and his wife did more than anyone else to create this division in order to pursue  their own political goal of remaining in power for the foreseable future. I long for the day when I no longer have to read junk like this.
Identity -- what to heck does that mean?  Bill Clinton has gotten so that no one can really understand what he is saying.
Are we still in the primary?  HAAA?  What?
Please proofread your edits -- you have the former President saying "where an Africa American" and not "were."  Journalists are not what they used to be, especially at MSNBC, definitely the lesson this primary season.  
Who cares what Billy boy is doing?????
Three profound challenges I suggest: Ethics, Accountability, and Morals in government. These three standards apply to all in government positions although the GOP seem to have overt problems with these to the extreme! Without these in place Clinton's three challenges to the governors are merely rules that can be agreed upon and later kicked to the curb when i suits them.
Surprise the pundits haven't read into what he said and has not said.  Bill is always in a Catch-22.  
Poor Bill.  He's still in denial phase.  God help us when he gets to the anger phase.  Let's all pray thAt Obama gets someone besides Hillary to run for VP.  Bill really needs a nice long rest.  
I have and probably always will respect and honor former President Clinton, despite the fact that I lost trust in him at one time.  You have to give him credit in the is a brilliant potitician, and to the overall issue of politics, he is one of the most straight-from-the-hip shooters out there.  But I think he's about a decade or two removed from truly understanding what's actually going on for the daily ins and outs of the average American.  

State sovernighty rights is one thing, but this nation is facing the worse recesion we'e ever been in for those of us ages 21-35, and we are looking for national responses and relief.

No hard feelings, but right now I could care less how certain states operate because it is our entire ntion that needs an overhaul! I'm sure what Bill had to say was indeed important to some of those in aendee, but we've got a presidential election going on, and Bill needs to start doing a better job of supporting his Party's candidate.
Sure miss Bill----too bad he has been turned into a racist by racists.
ZzZzZZZzzzzzzzz.....
Bill Clinton spoke to the Annual Governors' Conference and he didn't call Obama's name?  He is pathetic!  That BS about being "prohibited from delving too deeply into politics" should have remained unspoken, as it was a horrific lie.  
"When a person shows you who they are, believe them", spoken aptly by Maya Angelou should be heeded by Obama.  Bill Clinton has shown Obama who he is and Obama better believe him.  I wouldn't have the Clintons within 100 yards of me, if I were Obama.  People need to move on from their whining about Obama picking Hillary as his VP!  I don't trust any Clinton, including Chelsea.  These people have taken entitlement to whole new level that is ugly and base.
Bill Clinton said he was proud that the “surviving candidates were an African American and a woman”?  Hasn't anybody told  him that there is ONE surviving Dem candidate? His ultra tepid "support" of Obama is reason enough to eliminate HRC as VP material.

Obama had better watch his back.  Clearly Bill has accepted that Hillary isn't getting VP and his new plan is to undermine Obama and help McCain win so HRC can run again before she gets too close to 70 herself. What a jerk! He just can't get over himself. Well, most of the rest of us have.
I am really getting tired of everyone refering to Obama as African American, or black,   What would be wrong with calling him white, since he is just as much white as he is black.  why not refer of him as being half white,  
MR. PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, YOU ARE AND WILL BE THE ONLY BEST OF THE BEST PRESIDENTS AMERICA HAD AND HAS!!!

WE LOVE THE CLINTONS!!! THEY TRULY LOVE US...AMERICA THE BELOVED AND BEAUTIFUL AND GREAT!!!
Thanks for the speech Bill... http://www.enewsreference.com
>>>>“We have to deal with inequality, we have to deal with identity, we have to deal with energy,” Clinton said. “If we do, we’re about to go into the most exciting period in human history. If we don’t, in the words of President Roosevelt, dark will be the future.”

Get prepared for Obamabots to claim that's a "racist" comment.

NObama!


Obama has to have HRC's supporters to put him over the top. So far, he has failed to gain the majority of the women and as long as he puts his wife out to campaign hoping to gain our support, he will fail. I don't like Obama, as he is a wannabee. We have lived eight years under an on the job training exercise and look where we are today..... BAD situation. Do we really want more of the same? That is what we will get if Obama gets into office. More on the job training.

As for his flip flopping, he has given that term a new deminision. And in doing the flip flopping it just muddys the waters. Noone knows where he has been nor do we know where he is going. We can guess. NOT.

With HRC, we knew her past, her present and what she saw for the future.

I too, want what is best for our nation. After Hillary dropped out, I have been working to support any and all dems for congress EXCEPT Claire McCaskill. And my message to 'Claire'... you said you don't care what your supporters want/think, and that is that. WE don't care what YOU want other than it is VERY obvious you are not representing us, the supporters, but promoting yourself for your own gain. I will work hard to get her out of office as I worked to put her in office. She is an embarrassment to the ones who 'brung her'.

The polls are just that.... polls. I really wonder how anyone can use the St. Louis polls to judge how MO is going, red or blue. This state is sooooo diverse, that one area cannot give a clear picture of how the state will vote. St Louis vs Springfield vs Kansas City. Each area is so different Springfield has traditionally voted Republican, St. Louis Democrat, and Kansas City is a mix. I don't see the AA's as making much of a difference in the state. Besides, where were they in two thousand and two thousand four? Talk about racist..... voting for a black because he is black. Won't happen. When they decide to turn out for the person/candidate then and only then can they be taken seriously.

I want checks and balances in the government. Let that be a republican president with the democrats controlling, with voting control of the Congress, and this nation will move forward, perhaps slowly, but in a strong, reasonable maner. NO MORE one party rule.

The dems don't have any better track record of self discpline than the republicans have. Don't make the same mistake the republicans did and go straight one party ticket. The past seven plus years prove that method is a disaster.

Obama has to have HRC's supporters to put him over the top. So far, he has failed to gain the majority of the women and as long as he puts his wife out to campaign hoping to gain our support, he will fail. I don't like Obama, as he is a wannabee. We have lived eight years under an on the job training exercise and look where we are today..... BAD situation. Do we really want more of the same? That is what we will get if Obama gets into office. More on the job training.

As for his flip flopping, he has given that term a new deminision. And in doing the flip flopping it just muddys the waters. Noone knows where he has been nor do we know where he is going. We can guess. NOT.

With HRC, we knew her past, her present and what she saw for the future.

I too, want what is best for our nation. After Hillary dropped out, I have been working to support any and all dems for congress EXCEPT Claire McCaskill. And my message to 'Claire'... you said you don't care what your supporters want/think, and that is that. WE don't care what YOU want other than it is VERY obvious you are not representing us, the supporters, but promoting yourself for your own gain. I will work hard to get her out of office as I worked to put her in office. She is an embarrassment to the ones who 'brung her'.

The polls are just that.... polls. I really wonder how anyone can use the St. Louis polls to judge how MO is going, red or blue. This state is sooooo diverse, that one area cannot give a clear picture of how the state will vote. St Louis vs Springfield vs Kansas City. Each area is so different Springfield has traditionally voted Republican, St. Louis Democrat, and Kansas City is a mix. I don't see the AA's as making much of a difference in the state. Besides, where were they in two thousand and two thousand four? Talk about racist..... voting for a black because he is black. Won't happen. When they decide to turn out for the person/candidate then and only then can they be taken seriously.

I want checks and balances in the government. Let that be a republican president with the democrats controlling, with voting control of the Congress, and this nation will move forward, perhaps slowly, but in a strong, reasonable maner. NO MORE one party rule.

The dems don't have any better track record of self discpline than the republicans have. Don't make the same mistake the republicans did and go straight one party ticket. The past seven plus years prove that method is a disaster.

good for him saying it is both black man and woman. She is still in it for sure. See ya in Denver.The apeaser and the nominee. Selected and elected


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